Exactly what I was thinking. Says the battlefield tactics are easy but fails to win the game on his first run cause he doesnt have the brain to macro management the current state of the overall campaign. Funny and sad at the same time
@@alexndg5260 The reasons you may lose in XCOM is never outside of your control. You have plenty of tools and options for fighting back, and if you play a round of the tactical battlescape and you lose fair and square, you'll only have yourself to blame. That's why people love the game. It's brutal, but it's fair.
You must have played on easy mode. When any member of your squad can easily be killed in one hit from an enemy that you cant even see, that's bad game design. I downloaded the game for free and i'm still pissed about the time i wasted. Some of us have lives and cant spend hours and hours trying to get past badly designed gameplay and pacing
Funny, he says you can get 12 hours into the game only to realize you have no chance at winning. Then 30seconds later he says he wishes there was more strategy... Sounds like there's a lot of subtle strategy to me.
I'm actually really impressed with this game. I've been playing it none stop all weekend. It's soo addicting. Nothing is more satisfying than beating a difficult mission and watching your squad members rank up. It's also very sad when a high ranked squad member dies. I always find myself going to the memorial and morning my dead soldiers..
seems like you played on easy mode. My guys were constantly one-shoted by enemies that I could never even see. This game is the wrong kind of difficult and is extremely overrated
How is this person a professional game reviewer?? These reviews are for people who do not understand video games, by people who think call of duty and Madden are relevant to anyone other than the most casual of gamers. They seem to deliberately appeal to the lowest common denominator. I give this review a 3 out of 10. Boo
Adam Rae I would like to... it isn't really their individual reviews or reviewers that bum me out; it's more what they've come to represent. The method of reviewing and looking at games used by these people seems to be thoughtless and based on a more popular appeal approach, rather than a legitimate objective review of the game. It seems to be a large part of the attitude of most gamers now, like those who say watch dogs is terrible, right off the bat on the first day. So it isn't really ign I'm pissed at. It's more a bitterness, I guess, at the direction gaming is taking as a whole. Perhaps I'm just old. I'm just railing against what I perceive as a threat to the only sanctuary I find in the world
The only good thing about this review is that he said in the end that COD "looked suspiciously like last year's" For an ign reviewer, that's a big breakthrough
Learning curve? Good! Love having a game that requires you to learn how to play it properly! Just bought this on the steam Autumn sale and can't wait to try it.
I believe I failed a math course in college because of CIV I, X-COM, and Wastelands. While the tactical aspect has been dumb downed and streamlined a bit - I do believe it is much better for it. I will agree, the one thing I was a bit shocked at was, on most encounters aliens wont move until you "discover" them. So, if you are low on ammo or need to regroup - you can do so - as long as you do not accidentally find aliens. However, Terror missions change that. Overall, this game demands a 9+
I see what the reviewer means about the learning curve, in the context of the review: he isn't complaining that it's difficult, but that it's obtuse enough that by the time you figure it out, your first play through is likely affected. Difficult games aren't a bad thing, but that doesn't means games can't outline your objectives and priorities earlier on. Either way, it's not like 8+ is a bad score. People have become so expectant of that "10/10" rating that they seem to have forgotten that this means perfect, not average. Difficulty aside, XCOM isn't perfect. The linearity of the levels is enough to kick it down a level for me, fun though it is.
My review is 9.6/10 great multiplayer and single player amazing destructible environments and fun gameplay with complex and engaging objectives tab tie into the story plus intense and memorable memories call me a fanboy but... I'm not I'm just in love
mate I have a problem with my xcom; after the 2nd mission and u r asked to view your soldiers and after customised them individually I just can't do anything any more,no options nothing can someone help?.
This game is amazing! I was very surprised how fun and tense it really is for a strategy game when I first tried it. I rented it for the week-end, I'm going to buy it either today or tomorrow. :) It really is that good.
@@BubblyJubbly NO FEAR, ADVENT IS HERE :::::) But yes, for a Multiplayer option that is interesting. Already done so in a couple of pen&paper games as STARMARINES and the Avalon Hill Book Case classic STARSHIP TROOPERS.
There are plenty of videos on youtube. I had the same concern. After checking a couple of them, it looks like all it adds is minor things. Better textures, additional HUD (to make us of the keyboard), as well as a small grid shown when moving. The xbox does not have this, but it still runs smoothly (according to all of the videos i have seen), and handles well with a controller.
A massively steep learning curve was a big factor in the original UFO games but they were still 90%+ rated games on average at the time. But, 8.2 is still a great score so I'm ecstatic for the consistently brilliant Firaxis, a definite purchase alongside Dishonoured on Friday :)
This game is so good, I got 16 hours played over last two days. And all I am worried right now is that I might be close to beating it. You get so attached to your squad guys too, there is no way I can let my heavy colonel Cruz from Argentina to die at this point. Major thumbs up, I didn't get that much into the game ever since I played commandos 2 I think. LOVE IT TY TY TY!!!!
I didn't see who did this review before watching. Then he says something negative about a great game, and I'm like... "Oh, its IGN. Makes sense." IGN is a joke and their reviews hold no merit. This game, and its series, are amazing. Sorry it's not an A-Listed FPS. There ARE other genres out there.
Heh, that's pretty much what happened to me. First time those chrysalids showed up, only 1 guy made it out alive. Up until then most missions went without a hitch, a few days injury at most. Then suddenly all focus had to switch to defensive armour and funds were pulled from construction and aircraft. It definately makes you work for your success and you do become attached to your best dudes.
An example from original XCOM. In 1994 version, ANY object on the map (except ground) was destructible, you could set fire to objects or areas, and it would spread given time. Aliens holed up in a barn? No problem, just hit it with incendiary rocket and wait till they all get fried or choke with the smoke and drop unconcious. Another thing- each shot from any weapon you fired, unless it went off the map, had to hit something, there was friendly fire, accidental hits on hidden but unlucky aliens.
Its pretty scary when a review tells you that its the kind of game where you could get 12 hours into it and discover that there is no way you can win. This seemed to be the only descent GWG title for June 2016....and now I think that I won't even get THIS.
Why wouldn't you get it? That's a beautiful part of this game. It doesn't hold your hand AT ALL. Like an actual warring campaign, you may go in strong and find that you have stretched yourself too thin and cannot win. How is that not beautiful? Are you not a strategy fan? I hope I didn't come off as rude in this post. I am genuinely curious as to your response.
+gozhven It's great that a game like this exists. Not willing to hold your hand. Just today, i had to start all over, and get a dificulty down, to easy. Actually, I never had played an Xcom Game before this one (I started yesterday, so please.), In about 35 missions, i had lost 50 soldiers, give or take. So yeah, definitely get this if you're into Strategy games!
one thing he said incorrect was the civilian actions, they do actually move around and attempt to find new, full cover further away from the aliens even though it is not obvious during the game, i have also noticed that they run away from my own soldiers at times, or maybe that's just me
Its really great to see an old school type game made today....So many mainstream games now hold your hand the whole way offering little to know challenge. Imo its the challenge that gives a game extra depth.Games are too easy nowadays even on medium this game will kick your ass.Which results in actually gaining skill in the game making your self a better player . Which is rare in today's mainstream hold your hand type games
There will come an encounter (unless I just suck and don't know it) where you suddenly realize that you are completely and totally unprepared for what's going on. So whenever you feel you're doing well, and might even be a bit ahead of the curve, save immediately. Because you're probably about to have your legs exploded or melted out from under you.
Matter of opinion, but for me the learning curve in XCOM: Enemy Unknown is a great plus. The last time I experienced such a great learning curve in a game was Dragon Age: Origins, which I restarted in the middle of my playthrough just because I realized how many mistakes I made individualizing the skills of my party. People may think a games complexity is scaring casual and less experienced players away. Those players are playing on low difficulties not even realizing how much greater the gameis
Its funny, because "Angry Joe" gave this game a 9/10 BECAUSE of the cut scenes. It adds to the overall cinematic effect that humanity is at risk of annihilation. I personally was also fond of these cut scenes because they add more to the story.
That's weird. It could be the specific model of video card. Perhaps there was a driver update you need or something. My computer was manufactured between '06 and '07 and doesn't have that issue. I do agree with the buggyness thing though. Landing with Archangel Armour sometimes clips below the ground and then there's the infinity alien activity glitch. Hopefully they patch that.
Steve Butts, I am happy to see IGN hired you. You bring more credibility to the reviews than all those other guys that jst praise everything. I was wondering where you went from The Escapist.
Yay! I'm downloading this at 3:41am and watching the review to get an idea of what to expect, never played one of these. Also have the free Second Assault pack for BF4 in queue :) oh and workshop contraptions for Fallout. So much to play and I have summer school. I'm sad now..
Two minor things: The Grey Market needs a "buy" feature because if you don't have the resources to obtain a story-mission required item, you hit a dead end; forcing you to reload a past game. Also, time should pass *all* the time --not just when deploying on a mission, or when monitoring the scanner. It passes so slowly anyway; and since healing, research and funding are all dependent on time, it's really a meta-game issue. Overall, ignoring the clipping and S.H.I.V. glitch, XCOM is a 8.5/10
For £3.33 (slightly under $5) for this month alone, right now they're offering this game, Battlefield 3, Payday: the Heist, Saint's Row 3, Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus, Uncharted 3, Little Big Planet Karting, Shadow of the Colossus, Rayman Origins, Ico, Catherine, Demon's Souls, Malicious and Sine Mora. You're right, it's not free. Enjoy Fable 3 or whatever Xbox Gold tossed out the other day!
its ok man. I know the pain. I watched a lets play of it. There was a man, named Will Wilson. He was the most badass man of all time with physic powers and could mind control people. He espcaped death time and time again. But on the last mission, when the temple ship was about to super nova and destroy earth, it was Will Wilson who daved the day, sacrificing himself so that earth could survive. Let us all remember Will Wilson, Snipy, and all those who were lost during the war for earth.
i've just started enemy within and i love it.... my first xcom game... but i can definitely relate to this guys views on the game's shortcomings. I am addicted to the game and every day i have to go to work and am unable to play it sucks. im always eager to get back home and jump in... the whole base management, and handling of politics like panic levels and such is a really cool feature. But i understand his qualms about the strategic streamlining and the familiarity of mission structures and such. This is a game u will have to take ur time and read through everything the base has to offer and pay close attention, don't just jump in and expect to excel. you will lose council support and lose resources that way. Excellent game design from the developers, but some tweaks could have made it better... but nothing is perfect... a couple hours in and so far this game is excellent
I actually thought that Enemy Unknown was a hybrid turn-based strategy and shooter game, like Valkyria Chronicles. It was a bit surprising to me to see that there were no shooter elements, but I love turn-based strategy so it's fine. Definitely not what I was thinking, though.
At the end, he said Firaxis was "taking chances with the license." The last good Xcom game was 20 years ago with the original X-Com, so taking a chance on making a good X-Com game like the original isn't much of a chance now is it?
Conversation open: First; nice joke on the whole 'education is your friend thing' i most enjoyed how you took mine and just added your own swing to it, twas very cute. Secondly glad to see you are using Wiki like we discussed, very proud of you. Thirdly it's still psychological due to the fact that a "drug" initially affects your brain (psychological) which in turn impairs your motor skills, yes just like having a physiological effect. I'm not sure if im getting through to you but hopefully...
There's just one "but"- it's not a complicated strategy. In fact, as a fanboy of the original, I feel like they desecrated one of my all-time favs with this remake. You should really play the original which is still pretty fun after almost 20 years, giving you more freedom during missions, depth in soldier stats and combat system that seems to be chess when remake is more like tic-tac-toe.
Learning curve is a minus? It's one of the best things about XCOM, the strict and unforgiving nature of the game requires you to think on your toes at all times. I haven't had a strategy game that actually required me to think so much on and off the battlefield in ages, I'm absolutely loving the game.
This review was sort of on par with reality Nice going IGN, you didn't totally suck this time around. It seems that tough the reviewer was sort of right in the strategic sense, I cant shake the feeling like he's not REALLY reviewing the game in front of him, alone. Almost as if he wants it to be something else and grading it one that. the game doesn't suffer much (If any0 for the reasons given.
The difficulty isn't even a negative attribute. The original game was HARD AS BALLS and this game is no different. It's part of the charm; you're still having a good time even though your beloved squad is getting torn apart.
Your complaints stood out more than how really good this game is. That's why I miss GameTrailers... without them, I have no choice but to put up with these hipster reviewers.
i think its something to do with it being harder to find resources like ammo and medkits. Also uping up the difficulity. Look at it like if you turned a game to hard and it changed more then just the damage you take.
Yup played both Witcher's and they are good.One of the few rpg's designed for PC with the depth to show it.Too many hold your hand type games now in mainstream. We need more of these old school type games to break the mold.
Just one thing... civilians don't move a lot but they don't just stand there waiting to get zapped... they stand there most of the time, but they will run away and even take decent cover if an "xray" moves in on them... at least it works like this in the PS3 version.
I wanna throw in my two cents here - Im only an hour or so into the game, but I think the learning curve is a bit of a plus. Sure - We have to learn how to play the game, that's a given. But the learning also involves learning to fight the Aliens which is a good thing, we don't know how to fight Aliens :P My personal rating for the game is probably an 8.5 or 9.0. Happy Hunting!
To be fair the "learning curve" or in this case more likely the complete disorientation at the beginning of the game can be extremely frustrating to people not used to playing xcom games or turn based rpgs in general.
Steve, the next time someone is harassed by a coworker and come to you bc you a the person in charge of that area, don't ever tell them "don't make it a big deal" just so you don't have to deal with the situation. It's called being a grown up, now act like one.
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Complains that there should be more strategy, takes points off because of learning curve.
Exactly what I was thinking.
+Squirtle Thumbs down because his opinion.
***** I'm just saying his opinions are sorta of an oxymoron.
Exactly what I was thinking. Says the battlefield tactics are easy but fails to win the game on his first run cause he doesnt have the brain to macro management the current state of the overall campaign. Funny and sad at the same time
I know right,talk about a oxymoronic point!but IGN’ stands for’ ....you know
After saying a game with a decent learning curve is a negative you have lost all credibility as a game reviewer.
any game where you can lose for reasons completely outside of your control is bad. you have bad taste in games
@@alexndg5260 subjective
@@felixc.3444 Subjective in the way that some people prefer britney spears over pavarotti. You're not as clever as you think you are
@@alexndg5260 The reasons you may lose in XCOM is never outside of your control. You have plenty of tools and options for fighting back, and if you play a round of the tactical battlescape and you lose fair and square, you'll only have yourself to blame. That's why people love the game. It's brutal, but it's fair.
"Learning curve" as a con. RIP skill rewarding gaming.
You must have played on easy mode. When any member of your squad can easily be killed in one hit from an enemy that you cant even see, that's bad game design. I downloaded the game for free and i'm still pissed about the time i wasted. Some of us have lives and cant spend hours and hours trying to get past badly designed gameplay and pacing
How is a learning curve a bad thing?!
+Strat Man There being A LOT to learn is not bad, but it's when it's not taught well.
+ElfHostage yes and this game has great pacing.
Funny, he says you can get 12 hours into the game only to realize you have no chance at winning. Then 30seconds later he says he wishes there was more strategy... Sounds like there's a lot of subtle strategy to me.
He took points off because of a learning curve!? Well there's IGN for ya. -.-
They should have more dislikes.
@@gets0410 yeah
LOL so you gave it an 8.2 because there was too much strategy involved in the strategy game? my god what is this company
BrendanC Berklee new ears?
I'm actually really impressed with this game. I've been playing it none stop all weekend. It's soo addicting. Nothing is more satisfying than beating a difficult mission and watching your squad members rank up. It's also very sad when a high ranked squad member dies. I always find myself going to the memorial and morning my dead soldiers..
Game was an absolute beauty. I managed to go through with all my starting squad. Lost only one squaddie during the whole game. Excellent game 10/10
seems like you played on easy mode. My guys were constantly one-shoted by enemies that I could never even see. This game is the wrong kind of difficult and is extremely overrated
It's not about the difficulty, the secret is in constantly reloading the game and back tracking all the moves that led to casualty.
@@sammysuri393that sounds boring
The fact that you can make Christy Mack makes it a 10/10 game
How is this person a professional game reviewer?? These reviews are for people who do not understand video games, by people who think call of duty and Madden are relevant to anyone other than the most casual of gamers. They seem to deliberately appeal to the lowest common denominator. I give this review a 3 out of 10. Boo
take your attitude else where man
Adam Rae You think ign makes legitimate reviews? Blasphemer.
like to see you do better mate
Adam Rae I would like to... it isn't really their individual reviews or reviewers that bum me out; it's more what they've come to represent. The method of reviewing and looking at games used by these people seems to be thoughtless and based on a more popular appeal approach, rather than a legitimate objective review of the game.
It seems to be a large part of the attitude of most gamers now, like those who say watch dogs is terrible, right off the bat on the first day. So it isn't really ign I'm pissed at. It's more a bitterness, I guess, at the direction gaming is taking as a whole. Perhaps I'm just old. I'm just railing against what I perceive as a threat to the only sanctuary I find in the world
Adam Rae He probably could in all honesty. Giving reviews is all opinion and IGN's opinion on games for the most part is pretty shite.
This review was all over the place...
The only good thing about this review is that he said in the end that COD "looked suspiciously like last year's" For an ign reviewer, that's a big breakthrough
I lolled :D
Good stuff super! XD
Learning curve? Good! Love having a game that requires you to learn how to play it properly! Just bought this on the steam Autumn sale and can't wait to try it.
I just bought this too, and I have to say, this the best game of 2012.
XipwnuX99 should i get this on ps3? it's 10 buck so i think it's good
The game is totally worth 10 bucks. Its a bit hard, but its absolutely amazing once you learn what to do.
XipwnuX99 I got it for free today thanks to playstation plus. It's a great game.
samturrett Same here......
So because the game doesn't hold your hand it deserves a negative mark? I don't see the logic there.
I believe I failed a math course in college because of CIV I, X-COM, and Wastelands. While the tactical aspect has been dumb downed and streamlined a bit - I do believe it is much better for it. I will agree, the one thing I was a bit shocked at was, on most encounters aliens wont move until you "discover" them. So, if you are low on ammo or need to regroup - you can do so - as long as you do not accidentally find aliens. However, Terror missions change that. Overall, this game demands a 9+
Go to angry Joe and give him a try and subscribe
A fantastic game, and i never even played the original.
When this and Dishonored came out, i was very pleased with the gaming industry.
Steve butts? Accurate name! Please quit this job!
Lol
+Mighty EVILOSERUN His named like his attitude XD
I wonder if he changed his name to suit his profession.
I see what the reviewer means about the learning curve, in the context of the review: he isn't complaining that it's difficult, but that it's obtuse enough that by the time you figure it out, your first play through is likely affected. Difficult games aren't a bad thing, but that doesn't means games can't outline your objectives and priorities earlier on.
Either way, it's not like 8+ is a bad score. People have become so expectant of that "10/10" rating that they seem to have forgotten that this means perfect, not average. Difficulty aside, XCOM isn't perfect. The linearity of the levels is enough to kick it down a level for me, fun though it is.
"You really get attached to these characters, particularly if you name them after you friends"
Name: Steve Butts
Does he not realize that flanking and high vs low ground give you a significantly higher change to hit your target? It is part of the tactics.
So, whos here for Games with Gold then?
me
Came here for the same reason
So is anyone getting this game?
+Mau already have it, hoping to find some matches after this comes out on gold in june :)
+The “Battousai The Manslayer” Alchemy Warrior good for you, guess you won't be playing it then ;)
Honest question; how exactly are the tactics streamlined? I'm getting this game in a few days so I'm just curious
The 8.2 score is a bit low. My friends loved this game and they said they'd give this game a 9 at the least.
5:04 ahahaha 11 years later and this is still relevant!
My review is 9.6/10 great multiplayer and single player amazing destructible environments and fun gameplay with complex and engaging objectives tab tie into the story plus intense and memorable memories call me a fanboy but... I'm not I'm just in love
You said the tactics had been streamlined but didn't explain how. At a glance it seemed like it was all the same to me?
Videogames are now like movies. But this, this is a true video game. Amazing
mate I have a problem with my xcom; after the 2nd mission and u r asked to view your soldiers and after customised them individually I just can't do anything any more,no options nothing can someone help?.
This game is amazing! I was very surprised how fun and tense it really is for a strategy game when I first tried it. I rented it for the week-end, I'm going to buy it either today or tomorrow. :) It really is that good.
I am surprised he did not talk about the difficulty curve in this game.
I hope they make an XCOM game where you can be the Aliens and take over mankind.
dunno why this idea hasn't been explored. At least via dlc.
Great suggestion.
Maybe a prequel to XCOM 2?
@@BubblyJubbly NO FEAR, ADVENT IS HERE :::::) But yes, for a Multiplayer option that is interesting. Already done so in a couple of pen&paper games as STARMARINES and the Avalon Hill Book Case classic STARSHIP TROOPERS.
Which COD are we referring to? cod, cod 2, cod 3, cod 4, cod 5, cod modern warfare 2, cod black ops, cod modern warfare 3 or cod black ops 2?
just play on impossible and watch your "streamlined tactics" getting crushed in seconds
is there two player co op or is it online co op only?
Just got it and liked it more than civ 5
what the name of the song that starts at 0:04
South African flag at 1:52, thumbs up if you see it!
There are plenty of videos on youtube. I had the same concern. After checking a couple of them, it looks like all it adds is minor things. Better textures, additional HUD (to make us of the keyboard), as well as a small grid shown when moving. The xbox does not have this, but it still runs smoothly (according to all of the videos i have seen), and handles well with a controller.
whenever ign give a negative review, that game surely is great...
+ImperialEarthEmpire How is 8.2 ("great" on IGN scale) a negative review?
+leoejf, well, that's another problem with IGN, their reviews and their final score are bipolar.
Even 7 is not considered negative. People these days just seem to have some stupid idea that anything less than 9 equals negative.
A massively steep learning curve was a big factor in the original UFO games but they were still 90%+ rated games on average at the time. But, 8.2 is still a great score so I'm ecstatic for the consistently brilliant Firaxis, a definite purchase alongside Dishonoured on Friday :)
Games with Gold
This game is so good, I got 16 hours played over last two days. And all I am worried right now is that I might be close to beating it.
You get so attached to your squad guys too, there is no way I can let my heavy colonel Cruz from Argentina to die at this point. Major thumbs up, I didn't get that much into the game ever since I played commandos 2 I think. LOVE IT TY TY TY!!!!
Disagree with the score, I give it a 9.2.
I didn't see who did this review before watching. Then he says something negative about a great game, and I'm like... "Oh, its IGN. Makes sense." IGN is a joke and their reviews hold no merit. This game, and its series, are amazing. Sorry it's not an A-Listed FPS. There ARE other genres out there.
I love IGN reviews. Succinct, to the the point, and I can make an easy decision.
Heh, that's pretty much what happened to me. First time those chrysalids showed up, only 1 guy made it out alive. Up until then most missions went without a hitch, a few days injury at most.
Then suddenly all focus had to switch to defensive armour and funds were pulled from construction and aircraft.
It definately makes you work for your success and you do become attached to your best dudes.
Heh... butts...
An example from original XCOM. In 1994 version, ANY object on the map (except ground) was destructible, you could set fire to objects or areas, and it would spread given time. Aliens holed up in a barn? No problem, just hit it with incendiary rocket and wait till they all get fried or choke with the smoke and drop unconcious. Another thing- each shot from any weapon you fired, unless it went off the map, had to hit something, there was friendly fire, accidental hits on hidden but unlucky aliens.
I'm new to turn based strategy games. I've been hearing all about how difficulty it is. Should I still get it?
I'm getting this game soon, but I don't have a good enough PC. Does this game still function well on console?
Its pretty scary when a review tells you that its the kind of game where you could get 12 hours into it and discover that there is no way you can win. This seemed to be the only descent GWG title for June 2016....and now I think that I won't even get THIS.
Why wouldn't you get it? That's a beautiful part of this game. It doesn't hold your hand AT ALL. Like an actual warring campaign, you may go in strong and find that you have stretched yourself too thin and cannot win. How is that not beautiful? Are you not a strategy fan?
I hope I didn't come off as rude in this post. I am genuinely curious as to your response.
+gozhven
It's great that a game like this exists. Not willing to hold your hand. Just today, i had to start all over, and get a dificulty down, to easy. Actually, I never had played an Xcom Game before this one (I started yesterday, so please.), In about 35 missions, i had lost 50 soldiers, give or take.
So yeah, definitely get this if you're into Strategy games!
one thing he said incorrect was the civilian actions, they do actually move around and attempt to find new, full cover further away from the aliens even though it is not obvious during the game, i have also noticed that they run away from my own soldiers at times, or maybe that's just me
Damn, this is the first IGN review in a long time that wasn't filled with ignorance and idiocy. Well done.
Its really great to see an old school type game made today....So many mainstream games now hold your hand the whole way offering little to know challenge. Imo its the challenge that gives a game extra depth.Games are too easy nowadays even on medium this game will kick your ass.Which results in actually gaining skill in the game making your self a better player . Which is rare in today's mainstream hold your hand type games
There will come an encounter (unless I just suck and don't know it) where you suddenly realize that you are completely and totally unprepared for what's going on. So whenever you feel you're doing well, and might even be a bit ahead of the curve, save immediately. Because you're probably about to have your legs exploded or melted out from under you.
Matter of opinion, but for me the learning curve in XCOM: Enemy Unknown is a great plus.
The last time I experienced such a great learning curve in a game was Dragon Age: Origins, which I restarted in the middle of my playthrough just because I realized how many mistakes I made individualizing the skills of my party. People may think a games complexity is scaring casual and less experienced players away. Those players are playing on low difficulties not even realizing how much greater the gameis
I dont remember having to see an advert before every video
Its funny, because "Angry Joe" gave this game a 9/10 BECAUSE of the cut scenes. It adds to the overall cinematic effect that humanity is at risk of annihilation. I personally was also fond of these cut scenes because they add more to the story.
Not all of us are seasoned experts in strategy games and most of us like to be able to enjoy games from the start.
That's weird. It could be the specific model of video card. Perhaps there was a driver update you need or something. My computer was manufactured between '06 and '07 and doesn't have that issue. I do agree with the buggyness thing though. Landing with Archangel Armour sometimes clips below the ground and then there's the infinity alien activity glitch. Hopefully they patch that.
An unbiased and fair review from IGN personnel? The world is becoming a better place.
Steve Butts, I am happy to see IGN hired you. You bring more credibility to the reviews than all those other guys that jst praise everything. I was wondering where you went from The Escapist.
Yay!
I'm downloading this at 3:41am and watching the review to get an idea of what to expect, never played one of these. Also have the free Second Assault pack for BF4 in queue :) oh and workshop contraptions for Fallout.
So much to play and I have summer school.
I'm sad now..
Two minor things: The Grey Market needs a "buy" feature because if you don't have the resources to obtain a story-mission required item, you hit a dead end; forcing you to reload a past game. Also, time should pass *all* the time --not just when deploying on a mission, or when monitoring the scanner. It passes so slowly anyway; and since healing, research and funding are all dependent on time, it's really a meta-game issue. Overall, ignoring the clipping and S.H.I.V. glitch, XCOM is a 8.5/10
For £3.33 (slightly under $5) for this month alone, right now they're offering this game, Battlefield 3, Payday: the Heist, Saint's Row 3, Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus, Uncharted 3, Little Big Planet Karting, Shadow of the Colossus, Rayman Origins, Ico, Catherine, Demon's Souls, Malicious and Sine Mora.
You're right, it's not free. Enjoy Fable 3 or whatever Xbox Gold tossed out the other day!
its ok man. I know the pain. I watched a lets play of it. There was a man, named Will Wilson. He was the most badass man of all time with physic powers and could mind control people. He espcaped death time and time again. But on the last mission, when the temple ship was about to super nova and destroy earth, it was Will Wilson who daved the day, sacrificing himself so that earth could survive. Let us all remember Will Wilson, Snipy, and all those who were lost during the war for earth.
I didn't notice that until you pointed it out, and now I cannot stop hearing it
i've just started enemy within and i love it.... my first xcom game... but i can definitely relate to this guys views on the game's shortcomings. I am addicted to the game and every day i have to go to work and am unable to play it sucks. im always eager to get back home and jump in... the whole base management, and handling of politics like panic levels and such is a really cool feature. But i understand his qualms about the strategic streamlining and the familiarity of mission structures and such. This is a game u will have to take ur time and read through everything the base has to offer and pay close attention, don't just jump in and expect to excel. you will lose council support and lose resources that way. Excellent game design from the developers, but some tweaks could have made it better... but nothing is perfect... a couple hours in and so far this game is excellent
+shadowmane55 I still find 1994 original far more interesting to play, even today.
*****
I see you never played original?!
I actually thought that Enemy Unknown was a hybrid turn-based strategy and shooter game, like Valkyria Chronicles. It was a bit surprising to me to see that there were no shooter elements, but I love turn-based strategy so it's fine. Definitely not what I was thinking, though.
i remember playing the original enemy unknown on my old 486 rig as a child and that game punished me. i expect no less from this game.
At the end, he said Firaxis was "taking chances with the license." The last good Xcom game was 20 years ago with the original X-Com, so taking a chance on making a good X-Com game like the original isn't much of a chance now is it?
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First; nice joke on the whole 'education is your friend thing' i most enjoyed how you took mine and just added your own swing to it, twas very cute. Secondly glad to see you are using Wiki like we discussed, very proud of you. Thirdly it's still psychological due to the fact that a "drug" initially affects your brain (psychological) which in turn impairs your motor skills, yes just like having a physiological effect. I'm not sure if im getting through to you but hopefully...
There's just one "but"- it's not a complicated strategy. In fact, as a fanboy of the original, I feel like they desecrated one of my all-time favs with this remake. You should really play the original which is still pretty fun after almost 20 years, giving you more freedom during missions, depth in soldier stats and combat system that seems to be chess when remake is more like tic-tac-toe.
Is this game download only or disc
Learning curve is a minus? It's one of the best things about XCOM, the strict and unforgiving nature of the game requires you to think on your toes at all times. I haven't had a strategy game that actually required me to think so much on and off the battlefield in ages, I'm absolutely loving the game.
To be honest. Making a game more simple isn't always good. That's the charm of xcom. It's so hard.
I totally forgot about it, ugh, I wish I found out earlier, will only have a few hours to play tonight, but looks amazing.
This review was sort of on par with reality
Nice going IGN, you didn't totally suck this time around.
It seems that tough the reviewer was sort of right in the strategic sense, I cant shake the feeling like he's not REALLY reviewing the game in front of him, alone. Almost as if he wants it to be something else and grading it one that. the game doesn't suffer much (If any0 for the reasons given.
The difficulty isn't even a negative attribute. The original game was HARD AS BALLS and this game is no different. It's part of the charm; you're still having a good time even though your beloved squad is getting torn apart.
Your complaints stood out more than how really good this game is.
That's why I miss GameTrailers... without them, I have no choice but to put up with these hipster reviewers.
Yeah he's my go-to for reviews. Such depth and honesty. Make myself some food crack a soda and watch a review. Haha i like doing that.
i think its something to do with it being harder to find resources like ammo and medkits. Also uping up the difficulity. Look at it like if you turned a game to hard and it changed more then just the damage you take.
Yup played both Witcher's and they are good.One of the few rpg's designed for PC with the depth to show it.Too many hold your hand type games now in mainstream. We need more of these old school type games to break the mold.
Agreed. I feel the same way about my German sniper, Ursula "Snake Eyes" Fletcher.
Good reference: Commandos 2.
Did you buy it? Wondering this myself.
A learning curve is a negative? Should be a positive! Maybe a warning at worst
Name your assault character Master Chief (Or Bigballs McGee). He won't die, and you'll never have to suffer that feeling again.
I like how he put Madden and CoD on blast. Unbecoming of your average IGN employee.
How the game in PS3 is like the PC? or different?
Didnt he just say that knowing you can wait around takes away some of the tension?
Just one thing... civilians don't move a lot but they don't just stand there waiting to get zapped... they stand there most of the time, but they will run away and even take decent cover if an "xray" moves in on them... at least it works like this in the PS3 version.
I wanna throw in my two cents here - Im only an hour or so into the game, but I think the learning curve is a bit of a plus. Sure - We have to learn how to play the game, that's a given. But the learning also involves learning to fight the Aliens which is a good thing, we don't know how to fight Aliens :P My personal rating for the game is probably an 8.5 or 9.0. Happy Hunting!
Just bought for £2.50 new from Tesco, no joke. Not played it yet but looks interesting, can't go wrong for less then £3.
To be fair the "learning curve" or in this case more likely the complete disorientation at the beginning of the game can be extremely frustrating to people not used to playing xcom games or turn based rpgs in general.
The difficulty brought this game down a point in my opinion. The characters you level up die and then you have to reload :[
I just wanted X-Com that runs on modern pc/mac hardware with the exact same features as before.
Even though I pre-ordered it off of steam will I get the stuff from preordering the game.
Steve, the next time someone is harassed by a coworker and come to you bc you a the person in charge of that area, don't ever tell them "don't make it a big deal" just so you don't have to deal with the situation. It's called being a grown up, now act like one.