I love how the creators subverted the endings in the sequel, and that the "Good Ending" of this game would damn the world even worse than Kain staying in power, and that Kain was trying to protect the world with his decisions after he figured out the truth. (The canon ending is Kain chooses to rule)
42:54 I feel like Moebius wanting to get rid of vampires isn't something that needs to be explained. The tomb you wake up in has bound prisoners (who put them there anyway? Mortanius? Other vampires, since they also all seem to have bound humans in their lairs?) that the game clearly expects you to feed on, and that you literally can't free. And IIRC there are no vampires in game that don't not only view humans as livestock (which, fair, predator/prey relations etc.), but seem like they would even hesitate to drink an entire family on , or an entire school full of children. Now, clearly they fill an important ecological niche by keeping humans from overpopulating. But, if you were a human in this world, wanting to get rid of vampires would be like wanting to get rid of the plague.
Why I feel like it would be interesting to have an explanation is how Moebius acts. He doesn't act like someone who merely wants to free humankind from a pestilence. He revels in the suffering of the vampires, and seems to have a fervor that has a deeper motivation than the wellbeing of humanity. Those kinds of motivations are usually interesting to explore. We also don't really meet any other vampires than Vorador, but even he suggests a certain amount of caution and disconnection from humans, as to not provoke them too much. As much as vampires are predators, he knows that by pushing them too far their numbers would be more than enough to cause a lot of problems for vampires. So we see more of a balanced view from the vampire side.
@@finntrovert That's fair. Though even then I feel like, if I were a human in this world, I'd probably have that sort of absolute hate-on for anything vampiric.
Like some of the Ultima games, I was originally introduced to this game due to your streams. It's a hidden gem which marks the start of another classic game series.
Very much so. I have noticed a pattern with a lot of games I enjoy, in how people don't talk about them much anymore, and the series having been inactive for ages. XD
Oh yeah, I've been waiting for this. A great, thorough review as always. As good as the following games were, I'm still craving more titles like the first Blood Omen. Technically a metroidvania, but with its own flair.
When they're not on fire, vampires are probably room temperature! This series was controversial early on due to the IP grab but, yeah, let's not get into that. I believe the series was one of the first major works from Amy Hennig, who would later pen things like Uncharted. Ah, yes, the thing that stops a creature that just unlocked jumping up elevations into a bunch of hostiles... a waist-high boulder! Whoever thought waist-high rocks stop a 6-foot wolf from bounding over them was perhaps not sober. Oh, we're at 68 likes... I'm gonna watch this space, because I'm... a mature adult, yes. Is it me, or is there a possible connection of theme between the Pillars of Nosgoth and the Shrines in Ultima? They affect the world and the people and when corrupted, and so on. I wonder if some of these narrative choices were made in response to such prominent CRPG fantasy.
@@finntrovert Yeah, I just hadn't previously cottoned on until mid-way through watching :) Feels fairly obvious, now that I think about it, but, ah well, life's funny like that.
When i was 7, i can never figure out how to continue my game.....Man i was a stupid kid Granted, my brother always warn me not to play with game options or settings.
I have a small question. As soon the guardian of the pillar dies, another is born/assigned, so even if Kain kills a guardian, next already corrupted guardian is born/assigned, even if he is restoring the pillars almost immediately, by flying to the pillar in bat form, corrupted guardian of the pillar is already somewhere in Nosgoth, so all his actions cannot undo the corruption.
Which is why he has to start with Nupraptor who is the source of the corruption. With the source gone, new guardians can be assigned without being influenced by his madness.
@@finntrovertActually it is that no new guardians can be called until the pillars collectively have been restored. The only reason why Ariel was replaced by Kain is that the Pillars became corrupted when Nupraptor found Ariel's body and went mad, by this point Kain is already being born as her replacement. Until Kain as the last corrupted guardian is slain for good no new guardians will be called. (Whether the pillars _can_ recover from exploding is another matter however)
Honestly one of my favorite series. Simon Templeman has such an iconic voice. (As did Tony Jay [RIP], and the rest)
The voice cast for the games was amazing, no doubt about that.
I wish we got more games with kain. I love his voice acting so much.
I love how the creators subverted the endings in the sequel, and that the "Good Ending" of this game would damn the world even worse than Kain staying in power, and that Kain was trying to protect the world with his decisions after he figured out the truth.
(The canon ending is Kain chooses to rule)
The story does get a lot more involved and complicated later. It'll be interesting to dive into that later.
I’m a simple man. I see literally anything related to LoK and I click.
And this is how you make a review. I was never interested in LoK... but now I am, flaws and all.
Good job, Finn.
Thanks!
42:54 I feel like Moebius wanting to get rid of vampires isn't something that needs to be explained. The tomb you wake up in has bound prisoners (who put them there anyway? Mortanius? Other vampires, since they also all seem to have bound humans in their lairs?) that the game clearly expects you to feed on, and that you literally can't free. And IIRC there are no vampires in game that don't not only view humans as livestock (which, fair, predator/prey relations etc.), but seem like they would even hesitate to drink an entire family on , or an entire school full of children.
Now, clearly they fill an important ecological niche by keeping humans from overpopulating. But, if you were a human in this world, wanting to get rid of vampires would be like wanting to get rid of the plague.
Why I feel like it would be interesting to have an explanation is how Moebius acts.
He doesn't act like someone who merely wants to free humankind from a pestilence. He revels in the suffering of the vampires, and seems to have a fervor that has a deeper motivation than the wellbeing of humanity.
Those kinds of motivations are usually interesting to explore.
We also don't really meet any other vampires than Vorador, but even he suggests a certain amount of caution and disconnection from humans, as to not provoke them too much.
As much as vampires are predators, he knows that by pushing them too far their numbers would be more than enough to cause a lot of problems for vampires. So we see more of a balanced view from the vampire side.
@@finntrovert That's fair. Though even then I feel like, if I were a human in this world, I'd probably have that sort of absolute hate-on for anything vampiric.
Hey Finntrovert, I like your videos, I found you after watching Ultima videos after I found Majuular. Glad to have found you!
Thanks!
Glad you like the videos! It's still amazing to me how so many people have found this little channel, and I'm very grateful for it.
Like some of the Ultima games, I was originally introduced to this game due to your streams. It's a hidden gem which marks the start of another classic game series.
Very much so. I have noticed a pattern with a lot of games I enjoy, in how people don't talk about them much anymore, and the series having been inactive for ages. XD
Oh yeah, I've been waiting for this. A great, thorough review as always. As good as the following games were, I'm still craving more titles like the first Blood Omen. Technically a metroidvania, but with its own flair.
Thanks!
I tend to agree. Would have loved to see more games to be like this, but where they went I mostly enjoyed as well.
Great video I finally played this for the first time last year and loved it. Hopefully I start the sequel soon.
Thanks!
Blood Omen really is a great experience, and I hope you'll enjoy the sequels as well.
Is that good smelling gothic boi you mentioned called KingCobra by any chance? :)
@@UsmevavyPanacek What? I'm obviously speaking about Kain!
Oh well, it is what it is, toobs. But... I digress.
When they're not on fire, vampires are probably room temperature!
This series was controversial early on due to the IP grab but, yeah, let's not get into that.
I believe the series was one of the first major works from Amy Hennig, who would later pen things like Uncharted.
Ah, yes, the thing that stops a creature that just unlocked jumping up elevations into a bunch of hostiles... a waist-high boulder! Whoever thought waist-high rocks stop a 6-foot wolf from bounding over them was perhaps not sober.
Oh, we're at 68 likes... I'm gonna watch this space, because I'm... a mature adult, yes.
Is it me, or is there a possible connection of theme between the Pillars of Nosgoth and the Shrines in Ultima? They affect the world and the people and when corrupted, and so on. I wonder if some of these narrative choices were made in response to such prominent CRPG fantasy.
It's very likely Ultima influenced LoK as well, after all this series began when Ultima was still very much on every PC gamer's radar.
@@finntrovert Yeah, I just hadn't previously cottoned on until mid-way through watching :)
Feels fairly obvious, now that I think about it, but, ah well, life's funny like that.
yesssss another finn drop let's fuccin goooooooooooo
Hope you'll enjoy it!
i did! it was fantastic
@@yindeejay Thank you!
Damn, this game looks really good. I imagine gog has it? Definitely getting this next payday. I've been on an 80/90's PC RPGs binge lately
Yup, it's on GOG. That's also a very good binge to be on!
Late to the party, but m glad to see you cover another great series.🎉
Anyone knows to where I can find the eboot or a patch for the ebot to fix how dark the game is seen?
When i was 7, i can never figure out how to continue my game.....Man i was a stupid kid
Granted, my brother always warn me not to play with game options or settings.
VAE VICTUS!
*satisfied laughter*
I have a small question. As soon the guardian of the pillar dies, another is born/assigned, so even if Kain kills a guardian, next already corrupted guardian is born/assigned, even if he is restoring the pillars almost immediately, by flying to the pillar in bat form, corrupted guardian of the pillar is already somewhere in Nosgoth, so all his actions cannot undo the corruption.
Which is why he has to start with Nupraptor who is the source of the corruption. With the source gone, new guardians can be assigned without being influenced by his madness.
@@finntrovert oh, thank you kindly.
@@TheElevenbit You're welcome.
Glad to discuss the details of the games to the best of my ability.
@@finntrovertActually it is that no new guardians can be called until the pillars collectively have been restored. The only reason why Ariel was replaced by Kain is that the Pillars became corrupted when Nupraptor found Ariel's body and went mad, by this point Kain is already being born as her replacement. Until Kain as the last corrupted guardian is slain for good no new guardians will be called. (Whether the pillars _can_ recover from exploding is another matter however)
*sigh* Curse you Embracer! Curse you!
Thank you for making this video.
Thanks for watching!
VAE VICTIS!
Praise Victor!
24:14 TMDWU
It is what it is... but I digress.
Vae Victus!!!