You are an awesome instructor! I am relatively new to doing research in learning metal shaping and have never seen this process before. Is this something normal in the industry or something you created? Very cool process. I hope to be able to make it to your class someday! In the meantime I'll be watching all your videos and start buying some equipment and start practicing. Thank you for your time in making this content.
Wray you are a godsend, I just wish more young people would get off the video games and computers and play in the garage. Cars, Metal fab, and wrenching is my passion. Your videos are amazing for a professional or beginner. Thank you for being available on RUclips.
You Ray have managed to bring the black art of ' coachbuilding' to many who have a great interest in this craft & wish to learn & isn't lost forever but kept going for a long time!
I love the extreme at which you go to explaining the process. I install flooring and have made many, many hundreds of patterns over the decades to fit vinyl flooring. I have a job coming up to fit linoleum (not vinyl), in a bathroom. There is a curved, cast iron tub to fit to. That's not so difficult. The bathroom has ceramic tiles on the walls all the way down to the floor. That will be the difficult part. It's up to the individual to make the pattern and mark the pattern in his... or her, preferred way. Long story short... 😁😁😁 Flooring installers work in 2-D. 3D knocks me off my pedestal in a nanosecond. 😁 I'm not a metal worker or a metal shaper but just watching the process is total enjoyment on my end. 👍
Wray, your videos are fantastic and you are a terrific educator.I would also say that you are a craftsman. It wold be wonderful to take a class session one day to just broaden my horizon. I do have an old car I like working on, an MGB. Please keep posting and I will keep watching and together we can all get through this virus calamity with I hope a minimum of damage. Stay healthy.
I took Wrays course about 6 years ago, I use what he taught me all the time. Its well worth the money to take his course and get the hands on. Wray is a mechanical genius and an awesome teacher who reinvented metal shaping!
@@kawataufik5098 The course was around $900 then. Not sure now. It has paid for itself many times over. Wray looks like he’s 58 but he’s much older, so don’t wait too long he may retire?
Thank you for taking the mystery out of metal work, making the information available to all of us. It still reinforces just how much it is still a highly skilled art form. Can't wait for your next video, very addictive.
Certainly I look forward to the follow up to this flexible shape pattern, so far has been interesting even if a bit slow. Keep the vids coming, people will want to learn from your experience
This was the second time seeing a different car withe the flexible shape pattern. I learn something new every time I watch, I feel confident to try and make front and rear fenders for 1956 Karman Ghia. I would like to know if I have some question can I write you ? Thank you again this was an awesome video.
Actually when Mark traces the marks onto the gauge for the contour instead of using the free hand method you can use a compass that is used to draw a circle. It has a pencil on one end and a pointer on the other end. You lay the pointer end on the fender and the pencil end on the paper that is held against the fender contour. Spread the compass far enough apart to be able to trace the contour in one smooth swipe. starting at one edge of the fender drag the pointer along the contour of the fender and the pencil will make a perfect contour line on the paper. Pete
This is so simple in the design that it is genius. I could do this with practice and watching your videos. Building a buck out of wood or wire would be a disaster for me. (even my birdhouses are not square) The guy who did the shape pattern while you narrated has an eye for detail.
I love this. The genius of analog system’s. I design coins and we still hand sculpt and use analog reducing lathes. The quality is excellent. Cool as hell, thanks for sharing.
Thanks Wray for the class last week and reinforcing the FSP lesson with this video. Hope you get 100K subscribers and more soon. I will put the lessons into practice at my shop. Cheers, Matt P.
I find your flexible shape pattern idea to be fascinating. Your videos like this one are great because of your narrative explaining each step. The comments are also an extra bonus as the questions and the replies add much to the video. I bought your tape set and am looking for warmer temperatures to try it out on the repair of my Model A front fender. Thanks Wray
I love your videos!! I would love to be able to have your job/be able to build coach cars. I'm recovering from a head injury and don't think/realistically that I will ever be able to, so it is nice living vicariously through your RUclips channel.
I don't know if this helps but I have a brother who had a massive head injury. He was only given a 5% chance of living IF he made it thru the surgery. Well to make a long story short, not only did he recover but also got married, had a kid, bought a house and is a union steward in the shop where he works. It took time, but we never even thought he would be able to work again. Never give up, keep on trying, you will get there. Good Luck!
Where did you sell? Fiberglass tape plus shrinking disc and the tape? By the way I couldn’t find all parts of make a jaguars Pannel should put part 1-2 for people learn thanks
Hi Thanks for the video..that was really interesting. I do have a question. When you remove the pattern how do you flatten it our to get the pre formed outline , or am I missing the point. Best regards from Yorkshire in England. Andy
I have been making profile gauges for a 30 Model A Pickup Cab rear panel and I found a steel flexible contour gauge to be the best. It has wing nuts every four inches or so to allow me to tighten it down once I have pushed it over the original profile.
Staedtler (Model # 971 60-24) makes a flexible ruler (curve) that holds its shape so you can measure around curves like this. It has inches on one side and millimeter on the other. I have had mine for 25 years so I think you might have to find old stock.
Time and materials. You will find specialists that build them on a regular basis that will sell them for less money. There are a lot of details, details and accuracy take time.
Trim carpenter of the last 30 years here, have a suggestion. Use a compass when you scribe. In this situation, hold the cardboard to the fender, looking for the largest gap. At that spot, set your compass ( the kind that uses a pencil on one of the legs) being careful to set it to that gap while holding the pencil directly vertical to the sharp leg. Drag the compass along, all the while making sure you’re holding the two points plumb to each other. To better understand the reasoning behind this., let’s exaggerate. Imagine you had a 4” diameter sharpie. Hold the barrel of the sharpie against the fender and drag it. The resultant mark will be 4” too long from the top to the bottom of the fender. ( the 2” radius at top and bottom) Holding the compass exactly vertical, no matter the gap in the compass, , will mimic the curve , just farther into the cardboard. Minimizing the gap in the compass will be more forgiving of technique. Trust me, cutting wood to follow a fieldstone fireplace is harder, and watching this experienced guy use his eye and skill to make it work the harder way makes me think he does beautiful work because he clearly has a pocketful of what I call givadam.
I'm new to the flexable pattern system but am eager to try soon as the weather breaks here. I have one question, in watching the video, you say the humidity reactivates the stick and in others you've had small issues with plaster dust. Since the pattern is reversible, could you flip the pattern on the opposite panel and fiberglass what was the inside, as in sandwiching the low stick tape, or would it affect the panel? May also eliminate the fluttering if the low stick overlaps
Hi David, glad you like the process. The backside of the flexible shape pattern is dusted with plaster dust after it is pulled off. Maybe you haven't watched some of my videos where I show how to develop a panel using the flexible shape pattern? If you haven't watch the building the E-Type bonnet series. My RUclips channel home page. ruclips.net/user/proshaper
Really like your channel. I’m awestruck and am very grateful that you’re imparting your knowledge. Would love to know how someone can re create a panel or buck from photos alone. Seems like witchcraft 😉 Thanks again. And good luck with the channel.
Hi Shane, Thanks for watching, I plan to show the process of how to go from photos or a model to full-size real soon. I have my super volunteer Frank working on it right now. Another local guy stopped in today and offered to volunteer so Frank will have some help starting next week.
Thanks for the great Video Wray...been waiting for this one! How do you decide where the station gauges will be? I notice some are closer together than others. Thanks again...Keep up the fantastic work!
Wray, as always great video. I couldn't hear the name of the low stick tape when you said it early in the video. I followed your link to amazon.com, but the tape isn't in your recommended products. What type of tape is that. I found low stick artist tape, is that similiar! Thank you!
Hi Dave, Glad you enjoyed and learned from the video. I sell the correct and best flexible shape pattern tapes on my website proshaper.com look under tools. Shipment is by priority mail. Thanks, Wray
If you are talking about the 1/8" vinyl tape we just added it to our amazon site. We actually use Hystik blue vinyl tape which we will have on our website soon but for now the link in the amazon store should suffice.
New drinking game, when you hear "flexible shape pattern" take a drink. Makes this video only 3 minutes long! Totally kidding! This is an awesome and informative video. I am literally watching in bed purely for personal entertainment. I love watching true craftsmanship in action! Keep up the awesome work!
I do explain it in the video. If you don't cut out the overlaps when you turn the flexible shape pattern inside out to make the opposite side the overlaps come undone and become troublesome loose flaps.
Hi Wray, I used to work in shipyards and always wondered how they shaped the panels. Watch this for a little scale of what you do: ruclips.net/video/Xuo2XwfqV0o/видео.html
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You are an awesome instructor! I am relatively new to doing research in learning metal shaping and have never seen this process before. Is this something normal in the industry or something you created? Very cool process. I hope to be able to make it to your class someday! In the meantime I'll be watching all your videos and start buying some equipment and start practicing. Thank you for your time in making this content.
Thanks! I created the flexible shape pattern method over 20 years ago.
Wray you are a godsend, I just wish more young people would get off the video games and computers and play in the garage. Cars, Metal fab, and wrenching is my passion. Your videos are amazing for a professional or beginner. Thank you for being available on RUclips.
You Ray have managed to bring the black art of ' coachbuilding' to many who have a great interest in this craft & wish to learn & isn't lost forever but kept going for a long time!
Thank you very much for sharing this superb technique, the fact that you can flip it inside out blew my mind. You are a genius.
My wife has a different opinion.
That was so interesting to watch how the pattern was made another great teaching video thank your.
Very nice way to have a type blue print for fenders etc
This is pure gold. Thank you sir I hope you are doing fine you are a master.
Very nice... This is the place to start.
I love the extreme at which you go to explaining the process.
I install flooring and have made many, many hundreds of patterns over the decades to fit vinyl flooring. I have a job coming up to fit linoleum (not vinyl), in a bathroom. There is a curved, cast iron tub to fit to.
That's not so difficult. The bathroom has ceramic tiles on the walls all the way down to the floor. That will be the difficult part. It's up to the individual to make the pattern and mark the pattern in his... or her, preferred way.
Long story short... 😁😁😁
Flooring installers work in 2-D.
3D knocks me off my pedestal in a nanosecond. 😁
I'm not a metal worker or a metal shaper but just watching the process is total enjoyment on my end. 👍
Excellent detail, very well done
Will any tape work? I understand that the tape you sell is the best stuff. But for small jobs and beginning learning will any tape serve the purpose?
I've been watching a few of your videos & glad I've found this one...💚🇬🇧🌱
Wray, your videos are fantastic and you are a terrific educator.I would also say that you are a craftsman. It wold be wonderful to take a class session one day to just broaden my horizon. I do have an old car I like working on, an MGB. Please keep posting and I will keep watching and together we can all get through this virus calamity with I hope a minimum of damage. Stay healthy.
I took Wrays course about 6 years ago, I use what he taught me all the time. Its well worth the money to take his course and get the hands on. Wray is a mechanical genius and an awesome teacher who reinvented metal shaping!
Thanks! I remember your class visit very well, making the pair of Dodge frame pans. I will always remember your eye popping out story too!
How much cost the course that 6 years ago how about now and for how long you did
@@kawataufik5098 The course was around $900 then. Not sure now. It has paid for itself many times over. Wray looks like he’s 58 but he’s much older, so don’t wait too long he may retire?
Thank you for taking the mystery out of metal work, making the information available to all of us. It still reinforces just how much it is still a highly skilled art form. Can't wait for your next video, very addictive.
Very informative and helpful video, I'll be trying this technique on a body repair around the rear fender well of one of my cars.
Thanks again for your time to make this illestration how to Faburcate a shape pad a Art in it's self 👍😁
So glad someone has made this tutorial, thanks again Wray👍.
Certainly I look forward to the follow up to this flexible shape pattern, so far has been interesting even if a bit slow. Keep the vids coming, people will want to learn from your experience
Exelente técnica!
the most understandable videos I have ever seen on sheet metal shaping.
Also nice to see an E type called an E type, te-he-he.
Glad you liked it!
This was the second time seeing a different car withe the flexible shape pattern. I learn something new every time I watch, I feel confident to try and make front and rear fenders for 1956 Karman Ghia. I would like to know if I have some question can I write you ? Thank you again this was an awesome video.
Hi Clayton, Best to ask the questions right here in the comments section.
Actually when Mark traces the marks onto the gauge for the contour instead of using the free hand method you can use a compass that is used to draw a circle. It has a pencil on one end and a pointer on the other end. You lay the pointer end on the fender and the pencil end on the paper that is held against the fender contour. Spread the compass far enough apart to be able to trace the contour in one smooth swipe. starting at one edge of the fender drag the pointer along the contour of the fender and the pencil will make a perfect contour line on the paper.
Pete
Great system , tried it in a basic format yesterday ,,, it works so well.
This is so simple in the design that it is genius. I could do this with practice and watching your videos. Building a buck out of wood or wire would be a disaster for me. (even my birdhouses are not square) The guy who did the shape pattern while you narrated has an eye for detail.
Thanks, Wray and mark. Great video.
Excellent technique. Well demonstrated. Thanks for all your efforts!
I love this. The genius of analog system’s. I design coins and we still hand sculpt and use analog reducing lathes. The quality is excellent.
Cool as hell, thanks for sharing.
Artist at work! Brilliant video many thanks.
Thank you.
Thanks Wray for the class last week and reinforcing the FSP lesson with this video. Hope you get 100K subscribers and more soon. I will put the lessons into practice at my shop. Cheers, Matt P.
Thanks Matt. Come back when you have the time.
@@proshaper I will Wray. Starting to figure out what to do. You got me motivated to make more tools also!!
Very nice! We posted this video in our homemade tools forum yesterday :)
this is magic thank you so much for sharing this technique
Glad you like it!
I find your flexible shape pattern idea to be fascinating. Your videos like this one are great because of your narrative explaining each step. The comments are also an extra bonus as the questions and the replies add much to the video. I bought your tape set and am looking for warmer temperatures to try it out on the repair of my Model A front fender. Thanks Wray
I love your videos!! I would love to be able to have your job/be able to build coach cars. I'm recovering from a head injury and don't think/realistically that I will ever be able to, so it is nice living vicariously through your RUclips channel.
I was in the auto body industry for over 15 yrs. Everything from production work to restoration or custom. I miss it. Love watching your videos.
I don't know if this helps but I have a brother who had a massive head injury. He was only given a 5% chance of living IF he made it thru the surgery. Well to make a long story short, not only did he recover but also got married, had a kid, bought a house and is a union steward in the shop where he works. It took time, but we never even thought he would be able to work again.
Never give up, keep on trying, you will get there. Good Luck!
Fantastic video thank you
Metal is Clay - Wray is Flexible!!
Where did you sell? Fiberglass tape plus shrinking disc and the tape?
By the way I couldn’t find all parts of make a jaguars Pannel should put part 1-2 for people learn thanks
Hi Thanks for the video..that was really interesting. I do have a question. When you remove the pattern how do you flatten it our to get the pre formed outline , or am I missing the point.
Best regards from Yorkshire in England.
Andy
Use a marking wheel to transfer the profile to the guage.
Thank You 🙏
I have been making profile gauges for a 30 Model A Pickup Cab rear panel and I found a steel flexible contour gauge to be the best. It has wing nuts every four inches or so to allow me to tighten it down once I have pushed it over the original profile.
Staedtler (Model # 971 60-24) makes a flexible ruler (curve) that holds its shape so you can measure around curves like this. It has inches on one side and millimeter on the other. I have had mine for 25 years so I think you might have to find old stock.
Congrats on hitting of 10k subscribers mate I wish my channel was up there but if only got over 300 subscribers now
How much would it roughly cost to custom build a new fender for a jaguar E type?
Time and materials. You will find specialists that build them on a regular basis that will sell them for
less money. There are a lot of details, details and accuracy take time.
Trim carpenter of the last 30 years here, have a suggestion.
Use a compass when you scribe.
In this situation, hold the cardboard to the fender, looking for the largest gap.
At that spot, set your compass ( the kind that uses a pencil on one of the legs) being careful to set it to that gap while holding the pencil directly vertical to the sharp leg.
Drag the compass along, all the while making sure you’re holding the two points plumb to each other.
To better understand the reasoning behind this., let’s exaggerate.
Imagine you had a 4” diameter sharpie.
Hold the barrel of the sharpie against the fender and drag it.
The resultant mark will be 4” too long from the top to the bottom of the fender. ( the 2” radius at top and bottom)
Holding the compass exactly vertical, no matter the gap in the compass, , will mimic the curve , just farther into the cardboard.
Minimizing the gap in the compass will be more forgiving of technique.
Trust me, cutting wood to follow a fieldstone fireplace is harder, and watching this experienced guy use his eye and skill to make it work the harder way makes me think he does beautiful work because he clearly has a pocketful of what I call givadam.
Thank you for that. I will have to try it!
Awesome video! Would love a video on the bucks just can’t find this information anywhere awesome stuff!!
I will get to that and I will stir up a hornets nest with that subject.
Great video, I could use this in my seaplane build 👍🏻
What type of cardboard is that, where can I find it?
I use standard one ply cardboard. I buy it from Uline.com
I'm new to the flexable pattern system but am eager to try soon as the weather breaks here. I have one question, in watching the video, you say the humidity reactivates the stick and in others you've had small issues with plaster dust. Since the pattern is reversible, could you flip the pattern on the opposite panel and fiberglass what was the inside, as in sandwiching the low stick tape, or would it affect the panel? May also eliminate the fluttering if the low stick overlaps
I have never tried that, as long as you pulled tight it might work well
This is great, I definitely see this as a better route than paper templates. Do you put the fiberglass tape on the back side once it’s off???
Hi David, glad you like the process. The backside of the flexible shape pattern is dusted with plaster dust after it is pulled off. Maybe you haven't watched some of my videos where I show how to develop a panel using the flexible shape pattern? If you haven't watch the building the E-Type bonnet series. My RUclips channel home page. ruclips.net/user/proshaper
I haven’t but I will definitely check them out, I am welder and metal worker. Still a lot too learn!
Would it be quicker and easier to use a flexible rule for this bit ? @ 40:35
Really like your channel. I’m awestruck and am very grateful that you’re imparting your knowledge. Would love to know how someone can re create a panel or buck from photos alone. Seems like witchcraft 😉
Thanks again. And good luck with the channel.
Hi Shane, Thanks for watching, I plan to show the process of how to go from photos or a model to full-size real soon. I have my super volunteer Frank working on it right now. Another local guy stopped in today and offered to volunteer so Frank will have some help starting next week.
Wray where did you get that flex ruler? I can’t find one anywhere. Thank you and love the videos.
www.mcmaster.com/tape-rules/rulers/ I got mine from McMaster-Carr.
Wray Schelin's ProShaper Workshop thank you so much!
Muy interesante video. Me gusto.
Thanks for the great Video Wray...been waiting for this one!
How do you decide where the station gauges will be? I notice some are closer together than others.
Thanks again...Keep up the fantastic work!
Mark, added extra stations, a few more is not a problem. Not enough can be a problem, but they are easy to add if you need more.
Wray, as always great video. I couldn't hear the name of the low stick tape when you said it early in the video. I followed your link to amazon.com, but the tape isn't in your recommended products. What type of tape is that. I found low stick artist tape, is that similiar! Thank you!
Hi Dave, Glad you enjoyed and learned from the video.
I sell the correct and best flexible shape pattern tapes on my website proshaper.com look under tools. Shipment is by priority mail. Thanks, Wray
If you are talking about the 1/8" vinyl tape we just added it to our amazon site. We actually use Hystik blue vinyl tape which we will have on our website soon but for now the link in the amazon store should suffice.
@@proshaper Wray, Excellent! Thank you very much!
@@ShowtimeRI Thank you very much!
We are not going to reproduce the dent. Awesome. I but you could if you wanted.
Is the problem he is having with the transfer tape not adhering well from not cleaning the fender with a tack-cloth or alcohol first?
New drinking game, when you hear "flexible shape pattern" take a drink. Makes this video only 3 minutes long!
Totally kidding! This is an awesome and informative video. I am literally watching in bed purely for personal entertainment. I love watching true craftsmanship in action! Keep up the awesome work!
Brilliant very interesting and well explained love it larrysullivan in London
Do you have a description or link to the cardboard panels you are using to capture the profile? Thanks!
www.uline.com
Thank you!
What is the reason to remove the overlapping low stick base tape? Would it harm the fsp when leaving it?
I do explain it in the video. If you don't cut out the overlaps when you turn the flexible shape pattern inside out to make the opposite side the overlaps come undone and become troublesome loose flaps.
@@proshaper aha! Yes that sounds very logical. Thanks Ray!
How many razor blades do you use in a year ?
About $40.00 worth.
Where is the next video in the line of work?.
Check out the 110 videos at the proshaper RUclips channel. ruclips.net/user/proshaper
People are doing this over and over but only one person needs to do this and put it on the internet........maybe.
👍👍👍
Hi Wray, I used to work in shipyards and always wondered how they shaped the panels. Watch this for a little scale of what you do: ruclips.net/video/Xuo2XwfqV0o/видео.html
Too. much talk,,
Watch my speeded up versions'- no talking. Find them at my RUclips channel home page. ruclips.net/user/proshaper