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Ah yes, the seven great disasters of the Bronze Age. Volcanic eruptions, meteor impacts, aliens, Godzilla, Frankenstein's Monster, Dracula and Cthulhu.
This is why I love listening to music sung in languages I don't speak, and why I typically never look up the lyrics. There's something so satisfying about the potential in a mystery
im from Latakia (the same location of Ugarit) now days in syria, and i live in the Netherlands, i wanted to do a presentation for my class about Ugarit just this week all in Dutch language, and this video came just on time, thank you!!
Something I've always wondered about you guys. When Dan says "I think this" or "This is my opinion or what makes sense to me" is that "me" himself, Dan, or is he speaking as the writer, meaning that "Me" refers to James or whoever wrote the episode? Or do you guys all just have an alien hive consciousness that refers to itself in the singular?
James and Dan, have explained this before in a Q&A. The answer is : "a mix of both". Most of the time "me" means the writer (which in EC is usually James, and in this series i believe is Soraya). But Dan also reviews and edit each script before recording, and he would make slight adjustments on format and style to it, and so, it also reflects "his thinking". TL;DR: ME refers to "Character Dan" regardless of who wrote the script.
Well zombies don't need to breathe so it would be possible for them to walk on the ocean floor and emerge on very confused and very terrified civilizations. Also, zombies can't shoot bows and burn cities to the ground, but desperate armies dealing with even the possibility of and outbreak on a city can. ...is it just me or does this seem like a nice setting for a tabletop rpg?
They seem to be referring to the Israelite cities that were built along the Jordan River, away from the Phoenicians and Philistines near the coast. They built those after destroying the Canaanite cities.
After Rameses III, Egypt went through a revolving door of foreign occupiers: Nubians, Libyans, Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, and Romans as far as the ancient world goes.
Well the Aeneid tell us that Aeneas and the last Trojans sailed around to find a new home. Virgil never made clear if the wandering Trojans were trouble makers or not.
@@edwardr5793 well if you want to get technical, he wrote the empires in the correct order and ended with the Romans, who conquered Egypt around 300 years after Alexander.
They had to be a bit savage because civilization inventions and achievements were abandoned and there was nothing left in written language. I have read they incorporated into their culture only the basic things they encountered after the invasion. Things that were used on daily basis, for example, better pottery, etc.
"If history teaches us anything it is this : always pay your mercenaries. Oh, and don't invade Russia because that never seems to work." Aye, point one is very accurate. And surprisingly often ignored in history. Concerning point two, that has proven true with most invaders. The Mongols are as usual and exception.
Genetic studies of Philistine graves in the Levant showed that they likely had greek origins, or at least what is now greece. So it seems very likely that if the Philistines were part of the sea people, they were still outside invaders.
Fredrik Dunge nope,both dorians and philistines are greek tribes but from different ancestors..dorians were the closest descenants of pelasgians wich were protogreek and philistines were minoan descenats who lived in anatolia..btw illyrians werent dorians
Fredrik Dunge still phillistines were neither dorian or mycenean ..they were minoans so they were cretan greeks so i dont get why you cla8mthey were illyrians :)
Fredrik Dunge just do your fucking research...anyway i dont give a shit if you believe me or not...but just stop commenting because my phone rings like hell and i cant do my job ..just search phillistine anthropoligy study -minoan-cretan-greeks..you probably will find something
Possibly connected to the fallout from the Trojan War (refugees/displaced peoples/toppled regime/failed states) or the Dorian (sp?) invasion of mainland Greece/Mycenae?
yes indus civilization is one of the most developed bronze age civilization and may be you don't know there are many excavation going on and in latest discovery is Rakhigarhi, the biggest Harappan or indus site or settlement . www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/history-and-culture/rakhigarhi-the-biggest-harappan-site/article5840414.ece but most of peoples approach towards indus is just negative or idiotic they just saying indus just trading with middle eastern civilization they not involve in politics or other......crap . my question is when your title is bronze age they automatically cover all prominent civilization and indus also mysteriously doomed in same period . there are too much biases .
Maybe now that they've announced Total War Sagas (which are focused on specific events in history) they might focus one of their standalone games on that period.
That would be fucking sick. I don't like Total War and I would play the shit out of that. Imagine, the sea people invading your country, or maybe you *are* the sea people. Hell yeah!
"If history teaches us anything it is this : always pay your mercenaries. Oh, and maybe don't invade Russia because that never seems to work." Well said.
On occasion I'll hear people postulate that religion (specifically the "Christian Dark Ages") are the entire reason that progress has been stifled. It's as if people believe that, without any religion, we would be colonizing planets by now. Although I'm not trying to argue that religion as a whole is entirely innocent in creating problems throughout society, seeing the Bronze Age Collapse and how it led to what essentially was a large scale halt in technological improvement across nations seems to indicate that, despite what some people say, there have been other factors that contribute to decline in sophistication of people groups outside of "Christian ignorance".
@@glacierlegion9439 oh and one more thing, a lot of the advances made by Islamic scholars were made either out of a classical Islamic belief that exploring and understanding the world was the truest form of loving God, or out a practical need to follow their religious beliefs (ie where do you face yourself to pray towards Meca, how do you follow Islamic inheritance laws as outlined in the Quran. How do you make cool artwork that doesn’t feature animals, etc etc)
You said the lessons of history are "pay your mercenaries" and "don't invade Russia," but after watching the rest of the video it seems like a more important lesson might be something along the lines of "try to avoid climate change."
People like stability. Climate change is like throwing a wrench into a finely tuned system and noone knows what the results will be. Sure enough, humanity carried on... and built better societies.... but for once can we do it properly without a few centuries of suffering in between?
climate change wasn't all bad, sometimes it made the climate better. its also likely a major factor in the development of agriculture in the middle east.
A suggestion on the Sea Peoples: it's generally a sensible guess that there was MORE trade over a longer distance than seems obvious. That means peoples as far as what's now Venice, and even Spain, might have heard there were rich people across the sea who'd swap valuable stuff for tin. (Which they'd already been trading to get bronze: swapping raw mtaterial for finished edged tools, armor and weapons.) The distinction between trading and raiding wouldn't be clear for maybe 20 centuries, so you'd have heavily armed ships showing up to see first, what the price was, and second, if maybe stealing wasn't a better idea. Just one ship coming back stuffed with loot from Crete or the Levant, one captain saying "if I'd had 10 ships I could have filled them all", and you'd have dozens. The Mediterranean was like the Mississippi before steam ships -- steal anything, get beyond bowshot from the shore, and a competent sailor could not be caught: no pursuer could have a faster ship. A few centuries piling up wealth makes a damned inviting target for hit and run. One other thought: a localized disease from Western Europe that Eastern Mediterranean folks had never developed an immunity for. Given the very small interchange among peoples (just a few traders mingling), it's not unlikely that a few generations at one end of the Mediterranean would be able to infect the other in a way that everybody they didn't kill with swords or arrows would die accursed, with the 90% mortality rates the First Peoples saw in the Western Hemisphere 3k years later. Refugees (particularly women) who survived could have been unwitting carriers.
This is perhaps the most interesting "Extra Credits" series ever. Because it touches one of the fundamental questions. Why is there no direct line of development in human history? Why didnt they invented the steam engine 2000 years before Christ? Why did they made a downfall so often in such a short timeframe compared with the billion years of time past since the creation of life on this planet?
Because its about context. Technology is only utilised if there is a need for it. And the need arises from complex social structures. Ancient Rome had all the technology to create the steam engine, yet it was a slave based economy, ergo there was simply no need for any form of optimisation or improvement in the realm of "beast of burdens". Development of society is the key if you want to integrate any form of technology. Language, interaction, human relations, politics etc. Humanity was simply not ready.
"Technology is only utilised if there is a need for it." Well, yes. But wasnt there a need for fast transportation during the bronce age? We already had a large trade-network there. And they had a fundamental knowledge of mechanics and physics. And the word "Automobile" is a derivate of the old greek word for an autonomous vehicle... So, why was James Watt in the 19th century the inventor of the steam engine and not Platon?
A complex society is more than just trade. again. the fundamental reason for the lack of innovation during the time is again explained by the slave based economy. There was a status qou and there simply wasn't any demand or need for innovation. Nor was there any middle class to speak off. Where they innovated was engineering and war. The economy more or less looked the same during the empires existence. There are seldom a single explanation for things, and i only offer my view of the situation. But, the advent of industrialisation derived from the need to make the textile industry more efficient. and the industrial economy could only develop after society had developed along with it. Everything form norms to culture, identity and language. And, several powerful european economies we're competing to be number one, and as we know, competition is one of the greatest sources of innovation there is. At the time, Rome stood alone in its section of the world.
TOFKAS01 actually, the auto of automobile is still used in modern greek. We just have the word for moveable, witch makes the words ib greek and englisg fairly similiar.
Bryce 0905 I think Egypt was the longest surviving bronze age civilization but due to their God King system Ramses death would have hit hard since I believe he had the longest resign of the pharaohs dying at the age of 82.
Well I mean you could argue the Greeks survived right? The Mycenaeans are sometimes called Greeks, the same name in the same place doesn't necessarily mean they "survived". And even if they weren't future rulers of Egypt claiming they came from the old pre-collapse rulers was a winning strategy for legitimacy points.
Greoge 13 Ueath like the Neo empires that rose after the collapse. Like Neo-assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, and at one point Neo-Hittite. If I'm remembering right ,Egypt didn't collapse into total anarchy but instead lost a lot of territory and would just change dynasty and never recovered from the collapse.
What your missing is perhaps another civilization came to rise, and invaded, it doesn't necessarily mean that the bronze age empires became weak, but other empires outside the main ones become strong and attacked.
The universe can be considered another level of sea; it's huge, and largely unexplored, has many interesting environments and perhaps many forms of life that we're currently unaware of.
Yeah don't invade russia: Russia > Ottoman empire Russia > Napoleonic France Russia > Nazi Germany Lesson: Don't invade russia except if you are mongolian leader or WW1 German mind tactisian
"Never invade Russia" is an incomplete rule. The full version would be "never invade Russia shortly before winter". Or you can do it like Polish did and simply rush for the capitol and take their leader in chains to your seat of power.
And make sure russia is in Interregnum, thats how the poles did it. The thing is they only stayed for like two years, and apparently(as far as i know) never actually took the Kremlin.
@@drFocak As far as I remember from the history lessons, the reason that Poles didn't maintained the power in Russia was the religion. It was super likely that a king of Poland was able to put his son on the Russian throne, but that would only be possible if he converted his faith, which was a bit out of question in Poland.
Well except that is exactly what Napoleon did. Contrary to popular belief, he invaded Russia in the summer and made a beeline for their capital expecting to force them to surrender by winter where he and his troops would then take shelter in Moscow. It backfired when the Russians decided to burn their capital, flee into Siberia, and torch the entire path from Moscow back to the rest of Europe. It takes a long time to march 600,000 soldiers to Moscow. Ironically, perhaps had he invaded in the winter, he would not have had to spend a harrowing retreat from Russia in the winter.
Poland didn't really invade Russia. They joined one of the factions in the Russian civil war ("Smuta") and were kind of "invited" to Moscow by their puppet faction. They weren't in position to actually hold Russia by force, so they left when the original deal to put a Polish prince on the Russian throne collapsed due to religious differences. That's not really comparable to the Mongol conquest of Russia.
If only History was taught like that in school, I'd be a lot easier to interest some students. The best History teachers are the ones that know how to tell a story.
From what I understand the Bronze Age was a house of cards waiting to collapse. It was too complex for its own good and one flaw crushed the whole system. With that complexity in mind, how long until the Glass Age Collapse?
Joseph Sosa Common misconception: the law of entropy says everything will always get more disordered forever. While it does seem clear from history that all civilizations collapse eventually. It also seems clear that some knowledge and skill transcends each civilizational collapse, and offers its shoulders for the next civilization to stand on. None of that is in defiance of entropy. While it might appear to be an increase in the ordering of human societies, it is only made possible by the existence of the laws of entropy, which ensure that progress and collapse are both, in their own ways, equally eternal. The laws of entropy merely guarantee that, in the next era of history, there will be rubble for us to build on, and tools in the rubble for us to build with. You can call it hubris for people to live their daily lives with no thought for the rubble to come. I'd call it a crime against our children not to put as many tools in the rubble as possible.
Charles as soon as we get hit by a Coronal Mass Ejection and have all electronics unusable, we will be fucked. Hopefully only for a decade before we reestablish our electronic systems but in that time anyone could start an old-school invasion and alter the political landscape
GelidGanef All it's going to take is a drought in the U.S of a similar scale to the dust bowl which effects California, Texas, and the Great Plains. This would destroy food production and would lead to a rise in food prices, rationing, and eventually, out of desperation, riots and looting. The government would try to crack down on this which would make the U.S appear weak and on the verge of collapse, not to mention that this is happening in other countries too, so the U.S dollar would collapse dragging the world economy down with it. Which would lead to destruction across the world due to riots and revolution coupled with invasions by foreign powers attempting to secure food resources.
Obviously you don't realize the ridiculous amount of food the U.S. produces, how much is in storage, how much good food is thrown away, and how many farmers the government pays not to farm. The U.S. exports more food than any other country.
The invasion being from within answers a few questions I had from the tiny bit of info I found on the sea people’s? Like why no massive civilization or signs of military build up were found to the east of the invaded area. Or how come some sources said the invaders were their own people and others say they gathered peoples from the lands they invaded like Greece as they went along.
A lot of articles and historians point to a common event in this period, that if not the main cause, one of: -droughts in many wells -a change in temperatures -erosion of the fertility of the farmlands -volcanic eruptions (hence myths like atlantis, that probably derived from the minoans) These made the gains from farming smaller and despair grew, forcing each nation to resort to war or rebellions. Lots of collapsed walls also indicate a succession of earth quakes during these times, which would not only kill many and destroy buildings, but would cause panic amongst the religious folk that believed that this was a punishment laid down by the gods!
The sea people Ramses III is talking about, are the Phoenicians (the world for sea-people is literally, "Phoenicians"). Note that this is the Ramses III almost 700 years AFTER the Bronze Age Collapse of the Middle Kingdom.
You give two options for why the kingdoms could have fallen to internal forces: (1) The kingdoms were weakened, and (2) the people's condition deteriorated to the point they were willing to gamble a revolt. I think there are other possibilities. For example, what if the conditions were rising for the people (which would make the kingdoms more resistant to invasion and therefore stronger, not weaker) and the people started having enough wealth and leisure time to stop worrying about mere survival and started wanting more comfort and power? These people are now not thinking of themselves as slaves to their masters, but as people who have wants, dreams, and grievances that are worth addressing and the motivation to work for them themselves instead of beg for them from their leaders. If you starve a person, and are their only means of getting food, that person will be very submissive. If, on the other hand, you claim to be their only source of food, but they aren't starving and they feel like they could probably get their own food themselves, they won't be as willing to be your slave.
It was overwhelming. Records and legend show that Mycenaean culture was fluent in piracy and raiding, They sacked several cities and cultures such as the Minoans and possibly the Ilium coast. As far as having Iron, these migratory bands would have evidence of such, and most evidence of iron in this age was first crafted in Hittite territory. Most projections by archaeologists such as Eric Cline, theorize that several bands of peoples; Tjekker, Sherden, Shekelesh, Lukka, Teresh, and Ekwesh, invaded firstly Mycenaean Greece. Cline argues that the Iliad Homeric tradition may have been factual in some respects, but after the Trojan war pirating took place across the Aegean, and Doric tribes came to take over Pelasgian and Aetolian lands owned by the Mycenaean Wanax's (kings). It could be that since these migratory bands moved in and burned towns while the warriors of Mycenae were gone many of the warrior kings continued their path of piracy across the seas, which can be evidenced in Homeric poems the Iliad and the Odyssey. The Tjekker could have originated from several areas, Troy, Libya, Sardinia, or parts of northwestern greece, the Sherden could have been Greeks or Sardinians and they closely resemble Mycenaean warriors which were theorized to be settled in Canaan as the Phillistines after the collapse. The Shekelesh were thought to be from Italy or Sardinia, the Ekwesh were thought to originate from the Hittite label for Mycenaeans or Achaeans; Ahhiyawa, these peoples could have also become Canaanites. The Lukka were most likely from an area called Lukka, which was western Anatolia and part of the kingdom of Arzawa, a Hittite tributary, the Lukka could have been disregulated due to the devastation in Ilium by the Achaeans. However, these bands of peoples could have been from even more distant lands but they were almost collectively recognized by pharaohs of Egypt and Hittite kings as recognizable cultures in the Bronze Age system. They initially destroyed the prominent overlord of Lukka and Arzawa (which Arzawa has been fighting for centuries) most likely in order to devastate the Bronze trade, Alishiya was then taken over by storm and destroyed, then Ugarit who were unready, and all of their ships and military were already in Hittite lands. Ugarit wrote letters to the Hittite kings pleading for help as the Sea Peoples' ships harangued their lands, not knowing the Hittite capital was already destroyed. Ugarit was burned and sacked but they also described the Sea Peoples as taking their entire families and belongings with them on their ships, proving that they were possibly migrating or emigrating from somewhere. Next, they hit the Egyptian delta and were overrun by Egyptian soldiers, possibly attacking by all sides near their landing spot and anticipating their coming; since they had ample time to prepare as the other countries notified Egypt of their devastation. The Sea Peoples fled and attempted to recoup years later, allying with the Libyan kings and attacking Egypt again, only to be destroyed almost entirely as the Egyptians castrated the dead and counted their number by doing this in large piles. Portions of the Sea Peoples could have been elected for Slavery, some for relocation in more drought filled and populated lands in Canaan where they will fight for supremacy. Although, Egypt won they never really recuperated from this war and the economic devastation ruined their output, where trading partners became almost nonexistent Egypt dynastic struggled were soon overrun by Nubians, and then Assyrian proto-empires of Mesopotamia.
Marijan Tadijal "As part of the Mongol invasion of Europe, the Mongol Empire invaded Kievan Rus' in the 13th century, destroying numerous cities, including Ryazan, Kolomna, Moscow, Vladimir, and Kiev". This is what it says on the internet, and therefore I count that as invading Russia, maybe not all of Russia, but it's still invading Russia.
Ofcourse I'm just stating that the Polish along with the Mongols invaded Russia , ofcourse unlike the Mongols the Poles didn't fully subjugate the Russians like the Mongols but they did occupy Moscow , manage to sow dissent across the Grand Tsardom of Russia, and placed the the Russian court into complete turmoil thus causing the Smutnoe Vremya , the Time of Troubles. Also the Poles didn't invade the Kievan Rus but the The Tsardom of Russia . The Kievan Rus was long gone by the Polish invasion. ( The Kievan Rus reign ended in the early 1200s whilse the Poles invaded during the 1600s
Never invade Russia? Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth kinda managed to do that, but Zygmunt III Waza refused to let his son Władysław change religion from Catholic to Orthodox, which was a must for his son to become a tsar. (Zygmunt III Waza could create an alliance with Sweden in a personal union, but he was dethroned, because he was Catholic and Sweden - protestant).
Czitus The Zep Oh yes, I would love to see the Polish-Muscovite war (1605-1618) covered by Extra Credits. Preferably from the perspective of hetman Stanisław Żółkiewski, Polish commander who was against this war in the first place, but kept doing his job the best he could. Seriously, the guy absolutely smashed overwhelmingly stronger Russian and Swedish forces at Klushino in 1610, conquered Moscow (sending the freaking Tsar as a trophy back to Poland), and then sat with the Russian boyars like "Hey guys! I never wanted to fight and occupy you. Can we find some solution, that will bring lasting pace?". Only to wach his plan of compromise falling apart, due to Polish king being a moron. Still Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth temporary regained much of the territories lost by Grand Duchy of Lithuania to Moscow during previous century, so this war was a limited Polish-Lithuanian success in the end. Ofcourse there is also this whole insane story of how this war started, with some rogue Polish noblemen acting on their own in support of false pretenders to the Russian throne.
Early iron weapons were actually inferior to bronze ones, so that idea quickly flew out the window. Only the invention of steel made them better quality wise, and the only reason anyone would use them before is that iron ores are more common then the tin needed for bronze.
Except the Vikings eventually stopped raiding and realized that trading was more profitable in the long run. The Sea People just came in, raided, and then disappeared. They have more in common with The Huns than The Vikings.
5:02 the Egyptians said they threw the belongings of the sea people into the ocean so maybe we just haven't found their iron weapons because they're on the ocean floor? Have historians checked?
FYI about the Russia comment a lot of people have invaded Russia and won. Eg the Polish-Muscovite war, WW1 Germany, and the Mongols to name a few and all won winter campaigns. It's only because an French megalomaniac and Nazi Cosplaying as him failed so bad that we have this myth. By the Way the Nazis began on June 22 and Napoleon on July 24th in the middle of summer.
The fact that we don't know how entire civilizations ended is highly disturbing to me. I badly want to see a movie, game, or tv show set in that time now.
I think the largest take away I have from history is people fight for a reason, And the people of the time should have asked why were they fighting and as historians we need to ask the same question
I love you guys so much. I have my kids watch these episodes, and it is a great bonding experience for us. That said a lot of that of that has to do with the narration, and the tone of the videos. I have noticed that the older videos are far better designed for sharing with my kids. The newer videos are a little less suitable for a elementary kids.
The sea people cannot be Vikings, because Vikings were first known to the world after the Lindersfarne raid. They were traders before that, but after Lindersfarne they were famous. And Lindersfarne took place thousands of years later
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Marauders swept in from the sea, and the cities of the Bronze Age crumbled before them. Why did they fall so quickly?
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Well if you remember, tin (one of the major ingedients of bronze) is really rare. Maybe tin supplies got so low that they couldn't make bronze?
it was Walpole!
Channel 8844 but couldn't they have traded with the other nations? Like the assyrians
Max Glaak all of Assyrian's tin came from elsewhere.
"waves of sea people"
I *sea* what you did there.
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When you don't find enough luxury resources to manage your population growth in Civ 5...
I didn’t know what luxury resources are so I sold em
@@meh9114 XD
Or humankind, got a few games where a new luxury saved a vital city from revolt
Ah yes, the seven great disasters of the Bronze Age. Volcanic eruptions, meteor impacts, aliens, Godzilla, Frankenstein's Monster, Dracula and Cthulhu.
Beriorn But the seven great disasters can't get in the way of a good crusade.
Beriorn and the russians
5:52 Wind Waker???????????????????????????????????????
Miguel Abiog *the whole world crumbles under brimstone and Eldritch horror* "FOR THE HOLY LAND!"
Miguel Abiog: The crusades took place to stop the Muslim hoards.
The stone message in the beggining reminded me of the final message of the dwarves found in Moria by the fellowship. Erie stuff
Hmm
Nordic Bronze Age happened too
But didn't "collapse"
Similar duration
Nice boats
Battle axes
Hmm
Nordic Sea Peoples?
Vikings were known to raid the Mediterranean sometimes
4:47 Their ability to date things improved. They intermarried with locals and blended into the local scenery.
When times get tough, the tough get going - and by going, I mean raiding and pillaging.
There were no "Nordic people" back then or the Vikings.... your confusion a millenium span
@@takiranayaki7870 of course there were nordic people in the north LMAO
now, if this people did go to the mediterranean is not likely
"And maybe don't invade Russia, because it never seems to work."
Yeah tell that to the Mongols.
The Mongols didn't invade Russia, they invaded what was going to be Russia a few centuries later. At that time Russia didn't exist.
Well the Mongols also invaded Afghanistan and won.
Matthew Hemmings the polish king in the 1640s captured Moscow when it was united
Matthew Hemmings Germany WW1 knocked Russia out of the war
It should have been "Don't invade Russia in Winter"
Egypteans, Assyrians, Hittites, Mycenaeans. Long ago the four Nations lived in Peace. Then everything changed, when the Sea People attacked.
Funny, i'd just like to add in that these civilazations were in constant warfare with eachother.
ZiggyWSB for the myceaneans the mountain people attacked
Dimos Tychalas the dorian greeks;)
Hudson Huynh I know, right. He should have made a joke about that.
:D
This might just have become my favourite historical period. It's so mysteriously interesting
The grand question of “wha happen?” And we shall likely never know for sure
This is why I love listening to music sung in languages I don't speak, and why I typically never look up the lyrics. There's something so satisfying about the potential in a mystery
Everyone else: “Don’t invade Russia in the winter.”
Mongolia: “Hold my beer.”
Mongolia: hold my fermented horse milk.
Finnaly they lost.
Cue mongoltage
Russia didn’t really...
Exist at that time
@@karsentube13yt well at least they won against the winter and kievan rus
im from Latakia (the same location of Ugarit) now days in syria, and i live in the Netherlands, i wanted to do a presentation for my class about Ugarit just this week all in Dutch language, and this video came just on time, thank you!!
Masha Bitar dude can u show me ur presentation
Time Traveling Vikings
Sea Mongol
Aliens bruh
Atlantians
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Something I've always wondered about you guys. When Dan says "I think this" or "This is my opinion or what makes sense to me" is that "me" himself, Dan, or is he speaking as the writer, meaning that "Me" refers to James or whoever wrote the episode? Or do you guys all just have an alien hive consciousness that refers to itself in the singular?
That's the writer of the episode. If Dan needs to break the fourth wall, then he'll reference James by name.
James and Dan, have explained this before in a Q&A.
The answer is : "a mix of both". Most of the time "me" means the writer (which in EC is usually James, and in this series i believe is Soraya).
But Dan also reviews and edit each script before recording, and he would make slight adjustments on format and style to it, and so, it also reflects "his thinking".
TL;DR: ME refers to "Character Dan" regardless of who wrote the script.
Yes
PCspray Nah, I go with alien hive mind. Sounds reasonable to me.
lol
"...appearing on mountaintops or secluded regions ..."
Zombie apocalypse. Done.
Zombies don't sail. They also don't besiege towns with bows and arrows nor do they burn any towns down to the ground.
Casper Kersten Sure they do. If they're the Army of Darkness.
Depends on the zombie fiction we're talking about. Some zombies are very skillful.
Well zombies don't need to breathe so it would be possible for them to walk on the ocean floor and emerge on very confused and very terrified civilizations.
Also, zombies can't shoot bows and burn cities to the ground, but desperate armies dealing with even the possibility of and outbreak on a city can.
...is it just me or does this seem like a nice setting for a tabletop rpg?
They seem to be referring to the Israelite cities that were built along the Jordan River, away from the Phoenicians and Philistines near the coast. They built those after destroying the Canaanite cities.
After Rameses III, Egypt went through a revolving door of foreign occupiers: Nubians, Libyans, Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, and Romans as far as the ancient world goes.
Romans don't even breath till King Leonidas of Sparta die to Xerxes I
go drunk you're home
Well the Aeneid tell us that Aeneas and the last Trojans sailed around to find a new home. Virgil never made clear if the wandering Trojans were trouble makers or not.
@@michellejewell9859 and none tell about the iliad and the odissey. Um no really both and Aeneas was after of Bronze age collapse stuff, -.-
@@edwardr5793 well if you want to get technical, he wrote the empires in the correct order and ended with the Romans, who conquered Egypt around 300 years after Alexander.
@@edwardr5793 bull. Leonidas was around in the 400 bc. Rome started in 753 bc
"So who were these sea people?"
Atlanteans?
Yo momma
@@takiranayaki7870"Yo mama"
Makes more sense lmao
Vikins
I think Greek like people around the western Mediterranean
They had to be a bit savage because civilization inventions and achievements were abandoned and there was nothing left in written language. I have read they incorporated into their culture only the basic things they encountered after the invasion. Things that were used on daily basis, for example, better pottery, etc.
"If history teaches us anything it is this : always pay your mercenaries. Oh, and don't invade Russia because that never seems to work."
Aye, point one is very accurate. And surprisingly often ignored in history.
Concerning point two, that has proven true with most invaders. The Mongols are as usual and exception.
Russia is actually not terribly hard to invade, the question is whether the Russians have the will to fight.
QuakeRiley But you still need enourmous supply, wich Hitler or even worse, Napoleon didn't have.
Alexander Koza and i think that swedish king who wasted the opportunity to invade moscow
which one?
what we should really learn is "Capture Moscow as soon as possible"
I'm telling you we need a Extra history on extra credits
Yoshi's Wooly World Battle of the Dans Season 2
With Extra Warpole
UltimateBloxxer no we need to see it animated
I would watch the fuck out of that
Genetic studies of Philistine graves in the Levant showed that they likely had greek origins, or at least what is now greece. So it seems very likely that if the Philistines were part of the sea people, they were still outside invaders.
Fredrik Dunge nope,both dorians and philistines are greek tribes but from different ancestors..dorians were the closest descenants of pelasgians wich were protogreek and philistines were minoan descenats who lived in anatolia..btw illyrians werent dorians
Fredrik Dunge still phillistines were neither dorian or mycenean ..they were minoans so they were cretan greeks so i dont get why you cla8mthey were illyrians :)
Fredrik Dunge just do your fucking research...anyway i dont give a shit if you believe me or not...but just stop commenting because my phone rings like hell and i cant do my job ..just search phillistine anthropoligy study -minoan-cretan-greeks..you probably will find something
no you are liar
Possibly connected to the fallout from the Trojan War (refugees/displaced peoples/toppled regime/failed states) or the Dorian (sp?) invasion of mainland Greece/Mycenae?
The Sea Peoples have always been one of my favorite civilizations in the ancient world. Thanks for giving them their place in history.
They weren't "a civilization" though. It's a vague demonym for various unknown peoples coming from the sea.
The indus people had a mysterious event make their civilisation collapse too. You should do a series on them.
yes indus civilization is one of the most developed bronze age civilization and may be you don't know there are many excavation going on and in latest discovery is Rakhigarhi, the biggest Harappan or indus site or settlement .
www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/history-and-culture/rakhigarhi-the-biggest-harappan-site/article5840414.ece
but most of peoples approach towards indus is just negative or idiotic they just saying indus just trading with middle eastern civilization they not involve in politics or other......crap . my question is when your title is bronze age they automatically cover all prominent civilization and indus also mysteriously doomed in same period .
there are too much biases .
That is prety amazing! Thanks for the link.
most welcome . i am glad you mention indus {tiny number of peoples mentioned indus}:)
Bronze Age Collapse
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Back
Back to the future
*W A L P O L E*
Nobody Important Now the phonecians can get down to business
Quite the leap of logic there. ;)
Nobody Important where that delorian
Gotta back back to the past Samurai Walpole!
I am annoyed how much that made me laugh.
We really need a Total War game about the Bronze Age Collapse!
I don't understand why they haven't made one already
Theres a mod that does the Bronze Age for Rome II, but its only custom battle
there's a documentary series that was made using a modded version of Rome 1 and 1 episode was about Egypt vs the Hittites
Maybe now that they've announced Total War Sagas (which are focused on specific events in history) they might focus one of their standalone games on that period.
That would be fucking sick. I don't like Total War and I would play the shit out of that. Imagine, the sea people invading your country, or maybe you *are* the sea people. Hell yeah!
Maybe they came from *Atlantis* .
Everybody please watch Nadia and the secret of Blue Water!
which is probably the Biblical city of Tarshish according to some historians and archaeologist.
Maybe the stories of Atlantis came from speculation on where the Sea People came from!
Probably Tarshish.
I think the Sea Peoples could have been the Nuragic civilization from modern day Sardinia.
"If history teaches us anything it is this : always pay your mercenaries. Oh, and maybe don't invade Russia because that never seems to work."
Well said.
Mongolia would like to know ur location
On occasion I'll hear people postulate that religion (specifically the "Christian Dark Ages") are the entire reason that progress has been stifled. It's as if people believe that, without any religion, we would be colonizing planets by now. Although I'm not trying to argue that religion as a whole is entirely innocent in creating problems throughout society, seeing the Bronze Age Collapse and how it led to what essentially was a large scale halt in technological improvement across nations seems to indicate that, despite what some people say, there have been other factors that contribute to decline in sophistication of people groups outside of "Christian ignorance".
During the Bronze Age religion was a good thing. However during the Classical age we would be better off without religion.
@@glacierlegion9439 oh and one more thing, a lot of the advances made by Islamic scholars were made either out of a classical Islamic belief that exploring and understanding the world was the truest form of loving God, or out a practical need to follow their religious beliefs (ie where do you face yourself to pray towards Meca, how do you follow Islamic inheritance laws as outlined in the Quran. How do you make cool artwork that doesn’t feature animals, etc etc)
4:13
unless you are, wait for it... the mongols *rolls the mongoltage
This guy gets it.
And Germany in the First World War
Germany used the russians against themselves so i think they should be disqualified.
It should have been "Don't invade Russia in Winter"
Dang it, you beat me to it.
Finally... the Sea Men!
You're a bad person, and you should feel bad.
...pation!
PHRASING!
Ace132 On a small loan of a million shekels!
OCEAN MAN
This's why I love this show. I never Heard of this in my history class.
It's almost like I'm Learning the history of a fantasy world.
From what I have read, this is an excellent summary
"We willl build a sea-wall to keep sea-people out!"
You said the lessons of history are "pay your mercenaries" and "don't invade Russia," but after watching the rest of the video it seems like a more important lesson might be something along the lines of "try to avoid climate change."
XD
People like stability. Climate change is like throwing a wrench into a finely tuned system and noone knows what the results will be.
Sure enough, humanity carried on... and built better societies.... but for once can we do it properly without a few centuries of suffering in between?
or avoid people coming from the sea murdering your people and pillaging your cities.
Actually on the point of "pay your mercenaries" Sun Tzu had a better idea "After your mercenaries have done their job,kill them".
climate change wasn't all bad, sometimes it made the climate better. its also likely a major factor in the development of agriculture in the middle east.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - the most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia."
Steven Huxley I know these references.
Don't invade Russia from the West. If you happen to be Mongols, you're good.
Nah! The cheated by invading from the east.
Nelson Chereta unless you are polish-lithuanian
I'd love a Game of Thrones style show imagining any of these versions of Bronze Age collapse. I bet there were crazy machinations going on!
4:14 *queue the mongoltage*
I ain't afraid of no Mongols!
ah i see you are a man of culture aswell
Roberts Walpole+ Famous last words, of many great medieval empires.
...Why is Dracula listed under natural disasters? XD
I mean, Cthulu...Ok, sure. But DRACULA?!
To be fair, Dracula actually existed in history.
vlad the impaler.
Killed by the muslims the ottoman empire
The Crimson Fucker is as much of a force of nature as
POPO.
@@Burn_Angel pray tell how a dude is a natural disaster
Bloody hipster Vikings...
Technically they are Vikings because the word simply means "raider".
Of course not, they're hipsters!
Always showing up a fortenight late with a Starbucks Barrel! Oi!
raiding civilizations before it was cool
Bloody punk rockers
A suggestion on the Sea Peoples: it's generally a sensible guess that there was MORE trade over a longer distance than seems obvious. That means peoples as far as what's now Venice, and even Spain, might have heard there were rich people across the sea who'd swap valuable stuff for tin. (Which they'd already been trading to get bronze: swapping raw mtaterial for finished edged tools, armor and weapons.) The distinction between trading and raiding wouldn't be clear for maybe 20 centuries, so you'd have heavily armed ships showing up to see first, what the price was, and second, if maybe stealing wasn't a better idea. Just one ship coming back stuffed with loot from Crete or the Levant, one captain saying "if I'd had 10 ships I could have filled them all", and you'd have dozens. The Mediterranean was like the Mississippi before steam ships -- steal anything, get beyond bowshot from the shore, and a competent sailor could not be caught: no pursuer could have a faster ship. A few centuries piling up wealth makes a damned inviting target for hit and run.
One other thought: a localized disease from Western Europe that Eastern Mediterranean folks had never developed an immunity for. Given the very small interchange among peoples (just a few traders mingling), it's not unlikely that a few generations at one end of the Mediterranean would be able to infect the other in a way that everybody they didn't kill with swords or arrows would die accursed, with the 90% mortality rates the First Peoples saw in the Western Hemisphere 3k years later. Refugees (particularly women) who survived could have been unwitting carriers.
Santorini in the Aegean is the key to all this mystery. City island was blown up by a volcano under it around the same time.
This is perhaps the most interesting "Extra Credits" series ever. Because it touches one of the fundamental questions. Why is there no direct line of development in human history? Why didnt they invented the steam engine 2000 years before Christ? Why did they made a downfall so often in such a short timeframe compared with the billion years of time past since the creation of life on this planet?
Because its about context. Technology is only utilised if there is a need for it. And the need arises from complex social structures. Ancient Rome had all the technology to create the steam engine, yet it was a slave based economy, ergo there was simply no need for any form of optimisation or improvement in the realm of "beast of burdens". Development of society is the key if you want to integrate any form of technology. Language, interaction, human relations, politics etc. Humanity was simply not ready.
"Technology is only utilised if there is a need for it."
Well, yes. But wasnt there a need for fast transportation during the bronce age? We already had a large trade-network there. And they had a fundamental knowledge of mechanics and physics. And the word "Automobile" is a derivate of the old greek word for an autonomous vehicle... So, why was James Watt in the 19th century the inventor of the steam engine and not Platon?
A complex society is more than just trade. again. the fundamental reason for the lack of innovation during the time is again explained by the slave based economy. There was a status qou and there simply wasn't any demand or need for innovation. Nor was there any middle class to speak off.
Where they innovated was engineering and war. The economy more or less looked the same during the empires existence.
There are seldom a single explanation for things, and i only offer my view of the situation. But, the advent of industrialisation derived from the need to make the textile industry more efficient. and the industrial economy could only develop after society had developed along with it. Everything form norms to culture, identity and language. And, several powerful european economies we're competing to be number one, and as we know, competition is one of the greatest sources of innovation there is.
At the time, Rome stood alone in its section of the world.
TOFKAS01 actually, the auto of automobile is still used in modern greek. We just have the word for moveable, witch makes the words ib greek and englisg fairly similiar.
Because it's an exponential growth. THe more pieces of hte puzzle that is the universe we have the easier it's see which ones we're missing.
I thought Egypt managed to survive the sea people but collapsed later due to Ramses dieing soon after?
This is similar to what I've heard. Ramses did manage to fend them off, but the damage from the conflict resulted in a systemic collapse of Egypt.
Bryce 0905 I think Egypt was the longest surviving bronze age civilization but due to their God King system Ramses death would have hit hard since I believe he had the longest resign of the pharaohs dying at the age of 82.
Well I mean you could argue the Greeks survived right? The Mycenaeans are sometimes called Greeks, the same name in the same place doesn't necessarily mean they "survived". And even if they weren't future rulers of Egypt claiming they came from the old pre-collapse rulers was a winning strategy for legitimacy points.
Greoge 13 Ueath like the Neo empires that rose after the collapse. Like Neo-assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, and at one point Neo-Hittite. If I'm remembering right ,Egypt didn't collapse into total anarchy but instead lost a lot of territory and would just change dynasty and never recovered from the collapse.
I suppose I see your point thats just what I heard sorry.
Now the Phoenicians can get down to business!
Austin Leeds i love you now
Carthage should have won.
To defeat the huns
The kiln of 0:33 is now thought to be an overturned basket that burned in the rebellion - the tablet wasn't fired for transport.
What your missing is perhaps another civilization came to rise, and invaded, it doesn't necessarily mean that the bronze age empires became weak, but other empires outside the main ones become strong and attacked.
1:10 according to history channel, it was aliens, not sea people
lol kidding
alien sea people
Cthullu
Alien Sea Walpoles
The universe can be considered another level of sea; it's huge, and largely unexplored, has many interesting environments and perhaps many forms of life that we're currently unaware of.
@@wendychavez5348 But we know more about the space that surround our planet than the bottom of the oceans...
Everything changed when the Sea people attacked...
"And them the sea people (fire nation ) attacked "
Al Sarmiento you mean teh azteks?
Yeah don't invade russia:
Russia > Ottoman empire
Russia > Napoleonic France
Russia > Nazi Germany
Lesson:
Don't invade russia except if you are mongolian leader or WW1 German mind tactisian
The Egyptian pharoah said that their belongings were dumped into the sea...
And you said there were some iron artifacts found during the collapse...
damn, Seamen always penetrate the eggs of civilization
Zerpderp0 Was that REALLY needed? I vote yes...
Fox D yes
Zerpderp0 i
Guess I'll laugh
"Never invade Russia" is an incomplete rule. The full version would be "never invade Russia shortly before winter". Or you can do it like Polish did and simply rush for the capitol and take their leader in chains to your seat of power.
And make sure russia is in Interregnum, thats how the poles did it. The thing is they only stayed for like two years, and apparently(as far as i know) never actually took the Kremlin.
@@drFocak As far as I remember from the history lessons, the reason that Poles didn't maintained the power in Russia was the religion. It was super likely that a king of Poland was able to put his son on the Russian throne, but that would only be possible if he converted his faith, which was a bit out of question in Poland.
Well except that is exactly what Napoleon did. Contrary to popular belief, he invaded Russia in the summer and made a beeline for their capital expecting to force them to surrender by winter where he and his troops would then take shelter in Moscow. It backfired when the Russians decided to burn their capital, flee into Siberia, and torch the entire path from Moscow back to the rest of Europe. It takes a long time to march 600,000 soldiers to Moscow. Ironically, perhaps had he invaded in the winter, he would not have had to spend a harrowing retreat from Russia in the winter.
Poland didn't really invade Russia. They joined one of the factions in the Russian civil war ("Smuta") and were kind of "invited" to Moscow by their puppet faction. They weren't in position to actually hold Russia by force, so they left when the original deal to put a Polish prince on the Russian throne collapsed due to religious differences. That's not really comparable to the Mongol conquest of Russia.
Eh, taking Moscow doesn’t matter. Russia is to large.
If only History was taught like that in school, I'd be a lot easier to interest some students. The best History teachers are the ones that know how to tell a story.
Middle school and high school is alright, but elementary sucks
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"Never invade Russia"
In the corner, Genghis Khan is laughing. (?)
Genghis Khan: noobs!
I guess something went Ugawrong.
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Considering that Philistines literally means invaders in Hebrew, I'd say there is a strong possibility of them being sea people..
Atlantis
From what I understand the Bronze Age was a house of cards waiting to collapse. It was too complex for its own good and one flaw crushed the whole system. With that complexity in mind, how long until the Glass Age Collapse?
Joseph Sosa
Common misconception: the law of entropy says everything will always get more disordered forever.
While it does seem clear from history that all civilizations collapse eventually. It also seems clear that some knowledge and skill transcends each civilizational collapse, and offers its shoulders for the next civilization to stand on. None of that is in defiance of entropy. While it might appear to be an increase in the ordering of human societies, it is only made possible by the existence of the laws of entropy, which ensure that progress and collapse are both, in their own ways, equally eternal. The laws of entropy merely guarantee that, in the next era of history, there will be rubble for us to build on, and tools in the rubble for us to build with. You can call it hubris for people to live their daily lives with no thought for the rubble to come. I'd call it a crime against our children not to put as many tools in the rubble as possible.
Charles as soon as we get hit by a Coronal Mass Ejection and have all electronics unusable, we will be fucked. Hopefully only for a decade before we reestablish our electronic systems but in that time anyone could start an old-school invasion and alter the political landscape
GelidGanef All it's going to take is a drought in the U.S of a similar scale to the dust bowl which effects California, Texas, and the Great Plains. This would destroy food production and would lead to a rise in food prices, rationing, and eventually, out of desperation, riots and looting. The government would try to crack down on this which would make the U.S appear weak and on the verge of collapse, not to mention that this is happening in other countries too, so the U.S dollar would collapse dragging the world economy down with it. Which would lead to destruction across the world due to riots and revolution coupled with invasions by foreign powers attempting to secure food resources.
Ordinary Tree Yeah
Obviously you don't realize the ridiculous amount of food the U.S. produces, how much is in storage, how much good food is thrown away, and how many farmers the government pays not to farm. The U.S. exports more food than any other country.
The invasion being from within answers a few questions I had from the tiny bit of info I found on the sea people’s? Like why no massive civilization or signs of military build up were found to the east of the invaded area. Or how come some sources said the invaders were their own people and others say they gathered peoples from the lands they invaded like Greece as they went along.
Eric Cline has a discussion on his book 1177, where he says the tablet found in the kiln is a bit exaggerated.
A lot of articles and historians point to a common event in this period, that if not the main cause, one of:
-droughts in many wells
-a change in temperatures
-erosion of the fertility of the farmlands
-volcanic eruptions (hence myths like atlantis, that probably derived from the minoans)
These made the gains from farming smaller and despair grew, forcing each nation to resort to war or rebellions.
Lots of collapsed walls also indicate a succession of earth quakes during these times, which would not only kill many and destroy buildings, but would cause panic amongst the religious folk that believed that this was a punishment laid down by the gods!
The sea people are the White Walkers
Y Me
very few cultures welcome refugees, even fewer where the economy is based on subsistance agriculture
'hey refugee, sell me your kids for this half a rotten dog' some welcome that was.
The sea people Ramses III is talking about, are the Phoenicians (the world for sea-people is literally, "Phoenicians"). Note that this is the Ramses III almost 700 years AFTER the Bronze Age Collapse of the Middle Kingdom.
jo1italianstyle no they were the greyjoys
Or it was the khaleesi
4:15 unless you are... wait for it... THE MONGOLS.
Or the poles
The sea people are the only reason I am watching this. The sea people are so fascinating!
You give two options for why the kingdoms could have fallen to internal forces: (1) The kingdoms were weakened, and (2) the people's condition deteriorated to the point they were willing to gamble a revolt. I think there are other possibilities.
For example, what if the conditions were rising for the people (which would make the kingdoms more resistant to invasion and therefore stronger, not weaker) and the people started having enough wealth and leisure time to stop worrying about mere survival and started wanting more comfort and power? These people are now not thinking of themselves as slaves to their masters, but as people who have wants, dreams, and grievances that are worth addressing and the motivation to work for them themselves instead of beg for them from their leaders.
If you starve a person, and are their only means of getting food, that person will be very submissive. If, on the other hand, you claim to be their only source of food, but they aren't starving and they feel like they could probably get their own food themselves, they won't be as willing to be your slave.
The more "personal" Extra Histories we had so far were all really exciting and cool, but this more "broad" series is my favorite so far.
History also teaches us to never let some petty reason get in the wat of a good and jolly crusade!
I think the Sea Peoples could have been the Nuragic civilization from modern day Sardinia.
Why they invade? When they can trade sardines or mackerel for wealth?
Real talk. Are we sure that the Sea People weren’t actually Joshua and his Israelites playing DOOM music and taking no prisoners?
It was overwhelming. Records and legend show that Mycenaean culture was fluent in piracy and raiding, They sacked several cities and cultures such as the Minoans and possibly the Ilium coast. As far as having Iron, these migratory bands would have evidence of such, and most evidence of iron in this age was first crafted in Hittite territory. Most projections by archaeologists such as Eric Cline, theorize that several bands of peoples; Tjekker, Sherden, Shekelesh, Lukka, Teresh, and Ekwesh, invaded firstly Mycenaean Greece. Cline argues that the Iliad Homeric tradition may have been factual in some respects, but after the Trojan war pirating took place across the Aegean, and Doric tribes came to take over Pelasgian and Aetolian lands owned by the Mycenaean Wanax's (kings). It could be that since these migratory bands moved in and burned towns while the warriors of Mycenae were gone many of the warrior kings continued their path of piracy across the seas, which can be evidenced in Homeric poems the Iliad and the Odyssey. The Tjekker could have originated from several areas, Troy, Libya, Sardinia, or parts of northwestern greece, the Sherden could have been Greeks or Sardinians and they closely resemble Mycenaean warriors which were theorized to be settled in Canaan as the Phillistines after the collapse. The Shekelesh were thought to be from Italy or Sardinia, the Ekwesh were thought to originate from the Hittite label for Mycenaeans or Achaeans; Ahhiyawa, these peoples could have also become Canaanites. The Lukka were most likely from an area called Lukka, which was western Anatolia and part of the kingdom of Arzawa, a Hittite tributary, the Lukka could have been disregulated due to the devastation in Ilium by the Achaeans. However, these bands of peoples could have been from even more distant lands but they were almost collectively recognized by pharaohs of Egypt and Hittite kings as recognizable cultures in the Bronze Age system.
They initially destroyed the prominent overlord of Lukka and Arzawa (which Arzawa has been fighting for centuries) most likely in order to devastate the Bronze trade, Alishiya was then taken over by storm and destroyed, then Ugarit who were unready, and all of their ships and military were already in Hittite lands. Ugarit wrote letters to the Hittite kings pleading for help as the Sea Peoples' ships harangued their lands, not knowing the Hittite capital was already destroyed. Ugarit was burned and sacked but they also described the Sea Peoples as taking their entire families and belongings with them on their ships, proving that they were possibly migrating or emigrating from somewhere. Next, they hit the Egyptian delta and were overrun by Egyptian soldiers, possibly attacking by all sides near their landing spot and anticipating their coming; since they had ample time to prepare as the other countries notified Egypt of their devastation.
The Sea Peoples fled and attempted to recoup years later, allying with the Libyan kings and attacking Egypt again, only to be destroyed almost entirely as the Egyptians castrated the dead and counted their number by doing this in large piles. Portions of the Sea Peoples could have been elected for Slavery, some for relocation in more drought filled and populated lands in Canaan where they will fight for supremacy. Although, Egypt won they never really recuperated from this war and the economic devastation ruined their output, where trading partners became almost nonexistent Egypt dynastic struggled were soon overrun by Nubians, and then Assyrian proto-empires of Mesopotamia.
Yes, nobody has successfully invaded Russian... except, wait for it...
The Mongols
And the poles
Gethin Topps Mongols never invaded Russia. Rus on the other end...
Marijan Tadijal "As part of the Mongol invasion of Europe, the Mongol Empire invaded Kievan Rus' in the 13th century, destroying numerous cities, including Ryazan, Kolomna, Moscow, Vladimir, and Kiev". This is what it says on the internet, and therefore I count that as invading Russia, maybe not all of Russia, but it's still invading Russia.
Lerzid Marino And yes. Yeah, the poles have invaded Kiev Rus. So I'd say your justified by saying that. But Russia have also invaded Poland.
Ofcourse I'm just stating that the Polish along with the Mongols invaded Russia , ofcourse unlike the Mongols the Poles didn't fully subjugate the Russians like the Mongols but they did occupy Moscow , manage to sow dissent across the Grand Tsardom of Russia, and placed the the Russian court into complete turmoil thus causing the Smutnoe Vremya , the Time of Troubles. Also the Poles didn't invade the Kievan Rus but the The Tsardom of Russia . The Kievan Rus was long gone by the Polish invasion. ( The Kievan Rus reign ended in the early 1200s whilse the Poles invaded during the 1600s
Never invade Russia? Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth kinda managed to do that, but Zygmunt III Waza refused to let his son Władysław change religion from Catholic to Orthodox, which was a must for his son to become a tsar. (Zygmunt III Waza could create an alliance with Sweden in a personal union, but he was dethroned, because he was Catholic and Sweden - protestant).
Władysław? baby don't hurt me~
Czitus The Zep Oh yes, I would love to see the Polish-Muscovite war (1605-1618) covered by Extra Credits. Preferably from the perspective of hetman Stanisław Żółkiewski, Polish commander who was against this war in the first place, but kept doing his job the best he could.
Seriously, the guy absolutely smashed overwhelmingly stronger Russian and Swedish forces at Klushino in 1610, conquered Moscow (sending the freaking Tsar as a trophy back to Poland), and then sat with the Russian boyars like "Hey guys! I never wanted to fight and occupy you. Can we find some solution, that will bring lasting pace?".
Only to wach his plan of compromise falling apart, due to Polish king being a moron.
Still Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth temporary regained much of the territories lost by Grand Duchy of Lithuania to Moscow during previous century, so this war was a limited Polish-Lithuanian success in the end.
Ofcourse there is also this whole insane story of how this war started, with some rogue Polish noblemen acting on their own in support of false pretenders to the Russian throne.
I see what you did there :p
Leo Gille XDDDD
There are basically TWO instances of 'don't invade Russia' (Napoleon and Hitler).
There about 200 instances of 'by all means but please be gentle'.
This very hypothetical series is totally my favorite so far. Keep up the amazing job guys!
Early iron weapons were actually inferior to bronze ones, so that idea quickly flew out the window. Only the invention of steel made them better quality wise, and the only reason anyone would use them before is that iron ores are more common then the tin needed for bronze.
My question would be, are we heading for the same direction, except on a larger scale?
What was the main goal of the sea people.
We don't have any of their own history recorded but i'd guess wealth, glory, woman, maybe land.
Same as the vikings, I presume.
Except the Vikings eventually stopped raiding and realized that trading was more profitable in the long run. The Sea People just came in, raided, and then disappeared. They have more in common with The Huns than The Vikings.
To crash the bronze age, with no survivor.
The Mayans had one dry year and that finished them off if I remember right, they never returned to their cities.
Proving again that history is written by the winner
Mayan Remnants existed until the Spanish conquest. Granted they are a small shadow of their former selves
Not sure about that.
What I know is that the spanish had nothing to do with them, as they vanished hundreds of years before their arrival.
@@Burn_Angel
The Mayans controlled one city when Cortez invaded
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You make history fun and now you have one more new subscriber
5:02 the Egyptians said they threw the belongings of the sea people into the ocean so maybe we just haven't found their iron weapons because they're on the ocean floor? Have historians checked?
Maybe the root cause is the friends we made along the way
This is probably my favorite video of all time. Just so many concepts and mysteries are applied to what is going on here!
FYI about the Russia comment a lot of people have invaded Russia and won. Eg the Polish-Muscovite war, WW1 Germany, and the Mongols to name a few and all won winter campaigns. It's only because an French megalomaniac and Nazi Cosplaying as him failed so bad that we have this myth. By the Way the Nazis began on June 22 and Napoleon on July 24th in the middle of summer.
By the Way this show is something I really look forward to every week this is just a miner note.
im going to start a new game of civ 5 what civ shall i pick
Assyria
Canada
There actually is a Sea peoples mod on the workshop: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=497220625&searchtext=
byzantium
Delete civ 5, install EU 4, thank me later.
The only truly faultless iron weapon is the cast-iron pan! Just ask Rapunzel!
wasn't where the tablet was found actually a basket and not actually a kiln? I swear I've heard that somewhere.
The fact that we don't know how entire civilizations ended is highly disturbing to me. I badly want to see a movie, game, or tv show set in that time now.
"Attacking waves of sea people"
Get outta here, Fomorians, this isn't Ireland
"The Sea people attacked. Something must have displaced them..."
Me : "The White Walkers ?"
I'll just be leaving now...
I think the largest take away I have from history is people fight for a reason, And the people of the time should have asked why were they fighting and as historians we need to ask the same question
Great job guys!!
4:14 Unless you are the Mongols.
Sorry, thought I was watching Crash Course for a moment.
Or the poles
Lerzid Marino or the WALpoles...
Should have loaded a save back when everything was plentiful and planned for the long term.
Bro they were noobs and never saved.
I love you guys so much. I have my kids watch these episodes, and it is a great bonding experience for us.
That said a lot of that of that has to do with the narration, and the tone of the videos. I have noticed that the older videos are far better designed for sharing with my kids. The newer videos are a little less suitable for a elementary kids.
The Sea People could have been an early form of Viking culture
The sea people cannot be Vikings, because Vikings were first known to the world after the Lindersfarne raid.
They were traders before that, but after Lindersfarne they were famous.
And Lindersfarne took place thousands of years later
0:25 Whoa... I got some flashbacks to Breath of the Wild there.
"Maybe don't invade Russia."
You had me laughing. Haha.
5:18 "So what does that leave us?"
ATLANTIS
Theme music is from a game I played snes lol
Sea people... such a mysterious group.