Sahil Adeem and Qaiser Raja On Pakistan's Madrasa Problem

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Комментарии • 31

  • @muhammad00056
    @muhammad00056 7 месяцев назад +8

    One of the biggest problem in Pakistan is our educational system that school,college and universities follow.
    The only thing they are good at teaching students is indecency and promoting sexuality🙏

  • @shifa6874
    @shifa6874 7 месяцев назад +8

    Wallahi madarsa is "the problem"
    Sahil is totally right in his opinion,
    I'm also the victim of this system
    I wish i could share my story but even psychologically I'm unable to..
    It's been 9 years to getting out from this system n i hate the whole madarsa system till this date, they've torn my personality n potential n yet I'm not able to recover my lose.
    Wallahi from 9 years I'm on psychiatric care, they've destroyed my whole life!
    Qaiser definitely didn't see or meet cases like me but Sahil definitely had.. So, on my experience I'm totally agree with his statement
    We have to change or fix or replace this whole system
    ویسے تو ہمارے ہاں سیکیولر ایجوکیشن سسٹم کا حال بھی زیادہ اچھا نہیں مگر مجھے انتہائی ترس آتا ہے مدارس کے بچوں پر۔ یہ تو کسی کھاتے جوگا نہیں چھوڑتے بچے کو
    نہ دین کا نہ دنیا کا
    نہ ہی خدا ملا نہ وصال صنم
    نہ ہی ادھر کے رہے نہ ادھر کے
    اور خود victims کو بھی اندازہ ہی نہیں ہو پاتا کہ میرا بیڑا غرق ہو چکا ہے کیونکہ بیچارے کے پاس ککھ exposure نہیں ہوتا
    ایک سرنگ میں چھ آٹھ دس سال اسکی کنڈشنگ اس انداز سے کی جاتی ہے
    عقل تک کو جبرا طلاق دلوا دی جاتی ہے
    You're here for learning "deen"? Intellect has no business here so left it on the outside gate n just consume whatever we're telling you.
    یہ تو حال ہے
    جبکہ دوسری جانب کم از کم کسی حد تک بچت ہو جاتی ہے
    PS: I'm not very much in the favour of current secular education system here also.

  • @malikadnan7
    @malikadnan7 7 месяцев назад +7

    Need a second episode of this podcast with this topic as a title!

  • @hammadraza9255
    @hammadraza9255 7 месяцев назад +5

    I am an indian 🇮🇳
    But the same problem is here in india too, but i have an instant solution for it,
    I have studied in madrasah system and trust me i tried to give my best to study the curriculum of the madrasah, then almighty gave me change to travel outside of india,
    So i went to Al Azhar university in cairo,
    And trust me guys although it is not a perfect institution but it is a great place to study in free air,
    And best part is that they don't go deep in secterism, and always try to not giving verdict for anyone or any jama'at kafir or kuffar,
    Best part is they simplify the besic usools, and rather than making you hate those who have not been from ahlul sunnah, they always prefer to tell you the deep philosophy behind his opinion,
    And trust me that's what i was lacking in my whole life of study in indian madrasah,
    And because it is a free environment so you can learn and know lots of things despite of shairiah,
    I literally beg people to send their children to study in Al Azhar university because as much as students will come after completing their education from there they would be ignoring the secterism,
    i saw lots of hard core barelvis and nadwis becoming liberals and tolerants for each other,
    And that will work when big big part of subcontinent muslims will leave this garbage environment of ignorance and making each other kuffar and trevel far from this sh!tty mindset.

    • @ahmadjuwayni6256
      @ahmadjuwayni6256 7 месяцев назад

      Very good comment sir... I was also in each... if only more people went to Egypt! Deeni education is subcontinent is in deep problems!

  • @maliksharjeel5287
    @maliksharjeel5287 7 месяцев назад +4

    Sahil Bhai nailed it God bless

  • @FarmanSeema
    @FarmanSeema 7 месяцев назад +3

    Qaiser sahab 🔥⚡💪rocked, sahil is just declining the scholars importance to look cool🤡🤡

  • @princ3muhammad254
    @princ3muhammad254 7 месяцев назад +6

    There are schools and madarsa on a same platform. Go and look at them deeply . And again sit for the same topic podcast

  • @SuhailKhan-dt7fx
    @SuhailKhan-dt7fx 2 месяца назад

    I m a Kashmiri ...when i hear arguments made my Qaiser raja i laugh in the corner 😂

  • @lordvader903
    @lordvader903 7 месяцев назад +4

    the output of our madrasas are not even close to challenging some one from harvard(or any other top institutions) because they are not taught formal logic, problem solving, reasoning etc. I see even senior ulama falling into logical fallacies all the time.

    • @muhammad00056
      @muhammad00056 7 месяцев назад

      The output of our Universities also doesn’t come close to challenging someone from Harvard,Yale,Oxford too.

  • @MJfp6lx
    @MJfp6lx 7 месяцев назад +1

    The Madrasa experiment and experience has been a failure of epic proportion.
    How ppl defend such insanity is mind boggling. Ppl have been trying to motivate them for nearly a century from Dr Iqbal to Molana Maududi to Molana Ishaq to Dr Israr to even Sahil Adeem only a few years ago. Billions of public taxes wasted on such a failed experiment over and over again with Fitna Takfir and terrorism.
    The only time they do iqamat the output is Taliban and whatever they've done to Afghanistan over recent times which is make it a living hell and implement hanafi fiqh not Quran.
    All in all whether it be Ashraf thanvi or Ahmed Raza Khan both have given fatwa on microphone and speakers being haraam. Both are extremely regressive and illiterate. We dont want more Bapa Janis Kookab Noorani and Wahid Qureshis. A nation stuck in such stone age practices can never hope to counter Israel EU US UK or pretty soon even its neighbouring enemies.

  • @user-uh4bf5ki1u
    @user-uh4bf5ki1u 7 месяцев назад +3

    We certainly need to create a parallel system, while the madrasas should also remain

    • @Muhammad-_-Bilal
      @Muhammad-_-Bilal 7 месяцев назад +3

      I think no parallel system is required. Madrassas should teach Islam as a deen not as a mazhab. Problem will be solved. My opinion.

    • @mujahid-yv9si
      @mujahid-yv9si 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@Muhammad-_-BilalOk! But that is exact thing that they aren't doing. That's why I think we should establish parallel system.Because all the madrasas aren't ready to even acknowledge their fault, so how are you expecting that they will listen to you!?

  • @tariqmehmood6724
    @tariqmehmood6724 7 месяцев назад +1

    wesy sahil bhai ny lasy ma chhakka maar dia😅

  • @ZeeshanAli-fv3en
    @ZeeshanAli-fv3en 7 месяцев назад +1

    مگر اب مردارس میں اسلام کے علاوہ ہر فرقہ کی تعلیم ہو تربیت ہوتی مگر مذہب اسلام کا کوئی دخل نہیں

  • @PopLol-mk1ri
    @PopLol-mk1ri 7 месяцев назад +1

    sahil adeem samajhraha hai ke ab tak ulama ne kuch aqamat e deen ka kaam hi nahi kiya 1400 saalo se

  • @notretired6381
    @notretired6381 3 месяца назад

    where’s ENGNEER MUHAMMAD ALI MIRZA 😅

  • @werunads
    @werunads 7 месяцев назад +1

    I wish i could've been there and tell you what really madrasa achieved feom 1800 untill now and by the why just see from last 2 decads their is only 1 state which have complete under the shairay law and that was established by the student's of Madarsa . And i am so thankful to Allah that madarsas don't produce garbage bags like sahil

  • @aatifmunir
    @aatifmunir 7 месяцев назад +2

    Allah pak Sahil bhai ko hidayah dey

    • @Muhammad-_-Bilal
      @Muhammad-_-Bilal 7 месяцев назад +3

      Allah ap ko, mujeh, sab ko hidayat dy

  • @tariqmehmood6724
    @tariqmehmood6724 7 месяцев назад +1

    smjh e ni aai yar ye donon kesi bat krty k smjhna e mshkil

  • @MuhammadFaizan-sg2ih
    @MuhammadFaizan-sg2ih 7 месяцев назад

    Sir what is ur more channels name!???

  • @ahmadshaikh-artistology1056
    @ahmadshaikh-artistology1056 5 месяцев назад

    Watching Porn Is a big Sin..... And do you know? where from i got to know about these websites? My Madrassah Fellow asked me to "watch this if you want to get mature"
    It was year of 2009.... and i never forget that moment
    Problem: When we make children only memorize the Quran and they do not know the meaning at all, then such problems will come to the fore. Even once my respected father asked Qari Sahib to teach translation to the children, he said that the children are also small, they have no age.
    Solution: The first step to understanding religion is to memorize the translation of hadiths and verses of the Qur'an and not to memorize them.
    So my request to all parents is to make their children understand the Quran first and then memorize it.

  • @RayOfHope8
    @RayOfHope8 7 месяцев назад +1

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @zubairzaibi2153
    @zubairzaibi2153 7 месяцев назад

    Zabardast par kamry k andar

  • @MJfp6lx
    @MJfp6lx 7 месяцев назад +1

    😂😂
    Sahil Adheem software updates by engr shb. A few years ago he used to talk madaris madaris like raja Qaiser shb. Now he learned that Moawiya Bin Sufyan bukhari 2812 Muslim 6220 Nisai 3001-2.
    This religion was changed and secularized by its rulers

  • @Romeo22288
    @Romeo22288 7 месяцев назад

    Uter Nonsense.

  • @werunads
    @werunads 7 месяцев назад +2

    You guy's have 0 percent of knowledge about madrsa and what ullma done. Bs ap log 5 laafz english k bool apna ap ko scholars samj laita ho. Har bat islam k ilhtlaf sa shuro ho kar ulma k ikhtliaf pir khatam...😅😅😅