I bought the RG8 as my first non-beginner guitar, and I must say that it feels, to me, like an way more expensive guitar! It is so fluid, well made, and overall good! I now need to get good lol. Thank you for your comparison/reviews, I like what you're doing!
Great review and comparison! I really enjoyed it. Easily the best demonstration I have seen of these guitars since, as you may suspect, many other videos explore the distorted/metal applications, but not so much the clean sound which is still important aspect of many players. So I am glad that you spent a good amount of time showing the difference between the clean tones. Great video. Thanks for making it!
+German Guitarguy With these type of concise reviews, I predict your channel will be quite popular. Maybe do some reviews of your entire collection in the background and your gear.
Neck is not the same ! Rg8 -55mm (width at nut), 80mm (width at last fret), 20mm (thickness at 1st), 21.5mm (thickness at 12th), 400mmR (fretboard radius) TAM10 - 55mm (width at nut), 80mm (width at last fret), 19mm (thickness at 1st), 21mm (thickness at 12th), 430mmR (fretboard radius) ( like TAM100 and 2228 )
Been interested in getting an 8 string lately so I've been researching a bunch of different guitars and I might just be sold on the TAM-10 after watching this, good video!
Great video, I must say! Really in depth, great sound quality, amazing playing, great review... and most importantly, it ISN'T BORING! That's pretty hard to achieve with videos like this, yet I enjoyed watching all the way through it. Thank you for the great video!
very well done demo. i was thinking about picking up the rg8. i know it plays well(from experience). and as you said the electronics could use an upgrade, which i dont have a problem with at all because upgrading them is easy. Im a huge fan of clean playing so it was great to see an 8 string without some djent. as awesome as it may be
Thanks for the great video! I enjoyed listening to your playing. I have the RG8 on it's way to me in the mail and your video helped me get a sense of what it'll sound like. I will definitely be switching out the pickups for DiMarzio as soon as possible. Oh yeah, by the way, mine is in white. I agree, it looks better than the black one. Cheers!
I just ordered this guitar used of course, do you still have this guitar? It seems like a very clean sounding jazz guitar. Thank you for the great video
You should totally do a TAM10 and TAM100 comparison video! I'd be interested in the tonal difference because the neck in the 100 has different wood in the neck. I loved this review, awesome job man!
Oh, they don't; I just have low-vision and the bigger dots help me see the fretboard easier, that's all. I just wish, for that amount of money, I wouldn't have to get new inlays put on. :P I won't even know where to have that done anyway, haha!
Great video, very interesting,clear and never boring. I would need just one piece of advice: I am new to 8 string guitars but I am familiar with 8 string Ns stick and Chapman stick, I found a used Rg8 with D-activator pickups under 400 euros and a used Tam 10 for under 700 euros,which one do you recommend? thanks!
Super Video. Spiele bereits eine Agile Septor Elite 827 BlueFlame und war noch am rätseln, ob die TAM10 oder eine burgundy red RG 8-Saitige von I. Dank der vielseitigen Sounds ist die Wahl jetzt einfach...
I'm thinking of getting the RG8 and adding some heavy bottom strings (for some more low 8ve E tightness), then replacing the Pick-ups with Fishman fluence ones later on down the line. Because I'm thinking of using it for practice during the summer holidays first, then using birthday money for new Pick-ups. Is it a good idea for the RG8? I just hope it doesn't have any limitations other than the Pick-ups.
I've been looking at an RG8004. I picked it at Guitar Center and I liked it. Then I picked the RG8 and besides the dot inlay I couldn't tell the difference. Are there any major differences?
If it's a musical instrument, it's pronounced 'base'. If it's a fish or a wood, it's pronounced "bass", rhymes with "class". Great and informative reviews.
Hello, nice review, but i have one question. How do you like the quality of TAM10? I have heard that it is not that good when compared to not signature models of Ibanez in same price range.
Great review, thanks. Im also in for a 8 string, im using my universe uv777 for years now. No cash to get the RG2228 and swap the pickups so i think this should be my best bet. Gonna try a vew 8's out soon. A lot of mixed reviews on the net so dont know what to expect but hope it isnt a big step down from a prestige.
UVs are wonderful. I sold mine to get 2 different 8-strings, and now I'm regretting that I didn't wait just a few months for the TAM10 to be revealed. I would've bought just that one instead, had I been aware of it in time.
I dont know maybe its the ionizers or your amp settings but the upper fret leads sound too warm like a stratocaster type warm.tosin said the pickups werent too hot but could ring out nice when playing leads.guess i'll go to the music store and try one myself
Really great review! You're a really talented musician. I've owned some Ibanez Prestige sevens before, how would you compare the RGIF with the prestige-series in terms of quality? The iron label part kinda has me worried.
+Ulf Larsson Hmm, never owned a prestige - but i played some jems from the "old days". Would say that prestige quality is a touch better, but nothing that could not be tuned with 100 bucks at a good guitar luthier!
+Ulf Larsson There are always to things I wanna tune on any guitar: The saddle hight is not optimal and I like the frets with the edges, not rounded. A new fretjob with my favorite luthier at zeal-guitar.com is about 200 bucks. So... calculate that, and you have a PERFECT guitar. And this is complaining on a VERY high standard. Compare the fret job on a american standard strat and you will just laugh for days. :-)
Hehe, well I have laughed at quite a few guitars in my days ;) Sounds like Ibanez really has something going with the RGIF. I'm giving it a try. Thank you very much for your help :)
+Ulf Larsson Yeah, it is. The only thing maybe is to let the saddle be adjusted a little lower. BUT that is also a matter of taste - if you play a lot of djent stuff it probably should stay a little higher. I see no difference in quality between the TAM10 and the Fanned Fret Iron Labels.
Hi there! awesome reviews! I bought an RG8 recently. Right out of the box, I tuned it to standard and the 8th and 7th strings tension is too loose so the strings would get flappy/rubbery thus the strings would rattle all over the frets. Is this normal? Did you experience this with yours? Any tips or solutions?
+chiobes Maybe you have to adjust the tension of the tussrod. It is possible, If air humidity and temperature differ from the place the guitar was before. Other than that, the stock strings on the RG8 are pretty thin, I would put thicker Strings on it. At Least a 74 on the Low F# and a 62 on the B. Other Strings to your liking. I recommend D'addario 8 String sets for that.
+Bernd Kiltz Thanks for your quick reply Bernd. Appreciate your input. I'm very sure the issue is not the neck rather strings: 8th and 7th. The guitar came with a d'addario tag, so I would assume the strings are d'addario 8-string set. The 8th string seems pretty thick, though. I'm thinking perhaps tuning them an octave higher to correct the tension? Or would that feel weird...(playability wise)?
+KolyaTheSlayer :з thanks for the tip. D'Addario is sending me .070 and .080 while Ibanez is sending me a whole set of .009-.074. So, we'll see how they compare. :-)
Whichever one you can afford! 8 and 9 strings were made for clean playing. They existed in the 1910s, 100 years before djent. Djent is for boomers at this point. I only play 8 string acoustic. The clean, tapping, slapping 8 string revolution is here.
I only really think in pounds cuz I'm British, but for me budget is about £350 or less. £350-700 is midrange, £700-1200 is premium, and £1200 up is super-premium. Something like that, anyway.
+Charles Carr I agree. If anything, I would consider the RG8 to be the true budget version of Tosin's guitar. I own one and I have to say, it's really quite good and can be found for a very affordable price; especially if you can get a used one on eBay.
The Tam 10 more "versatile," MANY more pickup configurations, options, and clearer at clean settings. $1,300.00 U.S. The RG 8 $400.00 U.S., usual 6 string control. However IMO a fatter, more powerful gain tone, clearer, more punishing. Lead on the RG 8 reminds of a LPS. Best suited of the two for it's purpose. $900.00 U.S. price differential.
Moin, netter vergleich! Die RG8 habe ich jetzt 1 Jahr. Stimmt, die original Saiten waren einfach misst! Ich bin direkt, wie bei all meinen anderen Gitarren auf Elixir umgestiegen. So habe ich den Satz für 7 Saiter "Elixir Nanoweb 12057 Light 7 String" 0.10.- 0.56 aufgezogen und als tiefe die "Elixir .068 Electric Guitar String". Klingt dadurch um Welten besser, ich habe sie auch normal gestimmt F# - e und nicht wie original einen halben Ton tiefer. Ich spiele die überwiegend clean und bin mit der Besaitung sehr zufrieden. Zu den Tonabnehmern kann ich nicht viel sagen, mir fehlt was an Bums bei der B und F# Saite... Vielleicht sollte ich mal investieren und die Abnehmer tauschen... Spielbarkeit? der Hammer!!! Ist halt ein Ibanez Rennhals, super flach und liegt perfekt. Barre Griff über alle 8 Saiten, kein Thema! Geiles Brett jedenfalls!
Schönen Dank für die tolle Review. Habe mir daraufhin heute beim Musicstore in Köln die Ibanez RG8 in Walnut Flat als Special Edition gekauft. Ich hatte halt keine 1000 Euro. Die Gitarre ist supergeil. Der Bridgetonabnehmer wird duch einen Ionizier ersetzt .
joona mustonen Oh mannn!! You just did exacty what I wanted to do! To buy an RG8 and to put both pickups :D Good stuff, I hope you enjoy your new toys :)
Endlich mal einer, der schwarze Gitarren auch langweilig findet. Es gibt durchaus schöne schwarze Geigen, aber es müssen doch nicht alle so sein. Die RG8 in Walnut sieht imo deutlich besser aus. Sehr nette Review btw.
Im not sure he quite gets the point of an 8 string :p you shouldnt really get something tuned so low if youre playing classic metal or thrash. A seven string is more than enough if you want to play low. Theyre really more suited to progressive metal genres, tech death, or jazz, where the extended range is most useful. Nonetheless, its a good tonal exhibition, and watching someone play funk on an 8 string was amusing
I bought the RG8 as my first non-beginner guitar, and I must say that it feels, to me, like an way more expensive guitar! It is so fluid, well made, and overall good! I now need to get good lol.
Thank you for your comparison/reviews, I like what you're doing!
I'm sorry, I know English isn't your first language, but I did laugh at "fuck play" at 8:25
+Charles Carr omg
Dude I know right xD
I was guilty
LOL
lmao
Great review and comparison! I really enjoyed it. Easily the best demonstration I have seen of these guitars since, as you may suspect, many other videos explore the distorted/metal applications, but not so much the clean sound which is still important aspect of many players. So I am glad that you spent a good amount of time showing the difference between the clean tones.
Great video. Thanks for making it!
Great video! So so helpful! Just bought my TAM10!!
How you dont have 1000s of subscribers surprises me!
+German Guitarguy With these type of concise reviews, I predict your channel will be quite popular.
Maybe do some reviews of your entire collection in the background and your gear.
Thank you for your reply Mr. German Guitarguy. I hope you enjoy your new fanned fret RG8. It looks like an extremely well made, way cool guitar.
Great comparison, I actually just ordered a Tam-10 used. Got it for a steal. Thanks for your video. It clarified some things about the guitar.
Neck is not the same !
Rg8 -55mm (width at nut), 80mm (width at last fret), 20mm (thickness at 1st), 21.5mm (thickness at 12th), 400mmR (fretboard radius)
TAM10 - 55mm (width at nut), 80mm (width at last fret), 19mm (thickness at 1st), 21mm (thickness at 12th), 430mmR (fretboard radius) ( like TAM100 and 2228 )
Well dude, you definitely know how to test a guitar ! Great video ! Thanks
Been interested in getting an 8 string lately so I've been researching a bunch of different guitars and I might just be sold on the TAM-10 after watching this, good video!
Great video, I must say! Really in depth, great sound quality, amazing playing, great review... and most importantly, it ISN'T BORING! That's pretty hard to achieve with videos like this, yet I enjoyed watching all the way through it. Thank you for the great video!
Thanks a lot for this great test ! Very good balance between sound test and explanations. Thanks
very well done demo. i was thinking about picking up the rg8. i know it plays well(from experience). and as you said the electronics could use an upgrade, which i dont have a problem with at all because upgrading them is easy. Im a huge fan of clean playing so it was great to see an 8 string without some djent. as awesome as it may be
Thanks for the great video! I enjoyed listening to your playing. I have the RG8 on it's way to me in the mail and your video helped me get a sense of what it'll sound like. I will definitely be switching out the pickups for DiMarzio as soon as possible. Oh yeah, by the way, mine is in white. I agree, it looks better than the black one. Cheers!
Mark Torres Jeh Do you still use it and how does it sound? Would you recommend it?
Would you be able to review the Ibanez M80M there aren't a lot of reviews on it and you're content is awesome
great to see some clean 8-string for a change.
I just ordered this guitar used of course, do you still have this guitar? It seems like a very clean sounding jazz guitar. Thank you for the great video
Your English is solid man! Keep rockin'!!
His guitar playing too
You should totally do a TAM10 and TAM100 comparison video! I'd be interested in the tonal difference because the neck in the 100 has different wood in the neck. I loved this review, awesome job man!
Whoops I totally used the word neck redundantly. Sorry grammar police.
I'd love a TAM10 if it had regular dot inlays. XD Awesome comparisons, man! Great detail and tastful music!
How can only the inlays put you of it?
Oh, they don't; I just have low-vision and the bigger dots help me see the fretboard easier, that's all. I just wish, for that amount of money, I wouldn't have to get new inlays put on. :P I won't even know where to have that done anyway, haha!
oddfellowfloyd ahh I see I'm sure your local music store would have contacts for you if you needed :)
Excellent video, very well done.
Great video, very interesting,clear and never boring. I would need just one piece of advice: I am new to 8 string guitars but I am familiar with 8 string Ns stick and Chapman stick, I found a used Rg8 with D-activator pickups under 400 euros and a used Tam 10 for under 700 euros,which one do you recommend? thanks!
Super Video. Spiele bereits eine Agile Septor Elite 827 BlueFlame und war noch am rätseln, ob die TAM10 oder eine burgundy red RG 8-Saitige von I. Dank der vielseitigen Sounds ist die Wahl jetzt einfach...
Hi, what tuning are you using? I noticed that the factory set-up of the RG8 was bonkers (some strings tuned up, some down). Cheers.
Dude you're fucking awesome... you know your shit, your an awesome guitar player, and you sound like klaus from American dad
I'm thinking of getting the RG8 and adding some heavy bottom strings (for some more low 8ve E tightness), then replacing the Pick-ups with Fishman fluence ones later on down the line.
Because I'm thinking of using it for practice during the summer holidays first, then using birthday money for new Pick-ups.
Is it a good idea for the RG8? I just hope it doesn't have any limitations other than the Pick-ups.
I've been looking at an RG8004. I picked it at Guitar Center and I liked it. Then I picked the RG8 and besides the dot inlay I couldn't tell the difference. Are there any major differences?
If it's a musical instrument, it's pronounced 'base'. If it's a fish or a wood, it's pronounced "bass", rhymes with "class". Great and informative reviews.
I think the price of the TAM10 is outrageous considering a Prestige 852 is about the same exact price. I'll just throw some ionizers in an RG8.
How about RG2228?
My black guitar is why I picked green Dimarzios lol.
Hello, nice review, but i have one question. How do you like the quality of TAM10? I have heard that it is not that good when compared to not signature models of Ibanez in same price range.
***** Okay, thanks for answering!
Is the neck really wide? I have small hands
Great review, thanks. Im also in for a 8 string, im using my universe uv777 for years now. No cash to get the RG2228 and swap the pickups so i think this should be my best bet. Gonna try a vew 8's out soon. A lot of mixed reviews on the net so dont know what to expect but hope it isnt a big step down from a prestige.
UVs are wonderful. I sold mine to get 2 different 8-strings, and now I'm regretting that I didn't wait just a few months for the TAM10 to be revealed. I would've bought just that one instead, had I been aware of it in time.
BelugaTheHutt Im gonna save for the RG2228 and put some ionizers in it. The UV777BK is staying ;)
Cool Backing Tracks why not the 852 series? Their prestige run with similar specs almost half the price as the 2228?
What amp are you using if I may ask
Wish you wouldve played the 7th and 8th strings for the clean tone, cuz yknow isnt it the whole point?
Good videos, if you have access to a RGKP6 guitar would be so epic if you make a video of it :D I really think is a unique guitar btw.
I dont know maybe its the ionizers or your amp settings but the upper fret leads sound too warm like a stratocaster type warm.tosin said the pickups werent too hot but could ring out nice when playing leads.guess i'll go to the music store and try one myself
Great playing! Thanks for this review!
that TAM 10 sounds very nice!
Really great review! You're a really talented musician.
I've owned some Ibanez Prestige sevens before, how would you compare the RGIF with the prestige-series in terms of quality? The iron label part kinda has me worried.
+Ulf Larsson Hmm, never owned a prestige - but i played some jems from the "old days". Would say that prestige quality is a touch better, but nothing that could not be tuned with 100 bucks at a good guitar luthier!
That's good to now! I've played some jems also, and they are really good quality. So I'm guessing the RGIF is a "safe" bet?
+Ulf Larsson There are always to things I wanna tune on any guitar: The saddle hight is not optimal and I like the frets with the edges, not rounded. A new fretjob with my favorite luthier at zeal-guitar.com is about 200 bucks. So... calculate that, and you have a PERFECT guitar. And this is complaining on a VERY high standard. Compare the fret job on a american standard strat and you will just laugh for days. :-)
Hehe, well I have laughed at quite a few guitars in my days ;) Sounds like Ibanez really has something going with the RGIF. I'm giving it a try. Thank you very much for your help :)
+Ulf Larsson Yeah, it is. The only thing maybe is to let the saddle be adjusted a little lower. BUT that is also a matter of taste - if you play a lot of djent stuff it probably should stay a little higher. I see no difference in quality between the TAM10 and the Fanned Fret Iron Labels.
what tuning are you using I have this guitar and can't get mine to sound half way decent to that
Porbably the axefx I am using ;)
Tuning ist Standard F# B E A D G B E
Hi there! awesome reviews! I bought an RG8 recently. Right out of the box, I tuned it to standard and the 8th and 7th strings tension is too loose so the strings would get flappy/rubbery thus the strings would rattle all over the frets. Is this normal? Did you experience this with yours? Any tips or solutions?
+chiobes Maybe you have to adjust the tension of the tussrod. It is possible, If air humidity and temperature differ from the place the guitar was before. Other than that, the stock strings on the RG8 are pretty thin, I would put thicker Strings on it. At Least a 74 on the Low F# and a 62 on the B. Other Strings to your liking. I recommend D'addario 8 String sets for that.
+Bernd Kiltz Thanks for your quick reply Bernd. Appreciate your input. I'm very sure the issue is not the neck rather strings: 8th and 7th. The guitar came with a d'addario tag, so I would assume the strings are d'addario 8-string set. The 8th string seems pretty thick, though. I'm thinking perhaps tuning them an octave higher to correct the tension? Or would that feel weird...(playability wise)?
+KolyaTheSlayer :з thanks for the tip. D'Addario is sending me .070 and .080 while Ibanez is sending me a whole set of .009-.074. So, we'll see how they compare. :-)
What about the tunings on both guitars?
is it possible to get "strat on position 4" sounds from it?
Yes, it is!
Which 8 strings would you recommend for mostly clean sounds playing?
Whichever one you can afford! 8 and 9 strings were made for clean playing. They existed in the 1910s, 100 years before djent. Djent is for boomers at this point. I only play 8 string acoustic. The clean, tapping, slapping 8 string revolution is here.
Really good review thanks!
Where I am the TAM10 costs the equivalent of over $1000.. I wouldn't really call that "budget".
I doubt many would, however opposed to the about 4000 you would pay for the TAM100, this is "budget". 😕
I only really think in pounds cuz I'm British, but for me budget is about £350 or less. £350-700 is midrange, £700-1200 is premium, and £1200 up is super-premium. Something like that, anyway.
+Charles Carr I agree. If anything, I would consider the RG8 to be the true budget version of Tosin's guitar. I own one and I have to say, it's really quite good and can be found for a very affordable price; especially if you can get a used one on eBay.
tabs for the jazzy section on the video on the rg8 please !!!!
The Tam 10 more "versatile," MANY more pickup configurations, options, and clearer at clean settings. $1,300.00 U.S. The RG 8 $400.00 U.S., usual 6 string control. However IMO a fatter, more powerful gain tone, clearer, more punishing. Lead on the RG 8 reminds of a LPS. Best suited of the two for it's purpose. $900.00 U.S. price differential.
I see my RG8 is not the only one that has the lowest string be very far from the edge of the fretboard compared to the high string...
Moin, netter vergleich!
Die RG8 habe ich jetzt 1 Jahr.
Stimmt, die original Saiten waren einfach misst! Ich bin direkt, wie bei all meinen anderen Gitarren auf Elixir umgestiegen.
So habe ich den Satz für 7 Saiter "Elixir Nanoweb 12057 Light 7 String" 0.10.- 0.56 aufgezogen und als tiefe die "Elixir .068 Electric Guitar String".
Klingt dadurch um Welten besser, ich habe sie auch normal gestimmt F# - e und nicht wie original einen halben Ton tiefer.
Ich spiele die überwiegend clean und bin mit der Besaitung sehr zufrieden.
Zu den Tonabnehmern kann ich nicht viel sagen, mir fehlt was an Bums bei der B und F# Saite...
Vielleicht sollte ich mal investieren und die Abnehmer tauschen...
Spielbarkeit? der Hammer!!!
Ist halt ein Ibanez Rennhals, super flach und liegt perfekt.
Barre Griff über alle 8 Saiten, kein Thema!
Geiles Brett jedenfalls!
Schönen Dank für die tolle Review. Habe mir daraufhin heute beim Musicstore in Köln die Ibanez RG8 in Walnut Flat als Special Edition gekauft. Ich hatte halt keine 1000 Euro. Die Gitarre ist supergeil. Der Bridgetonabnehmer wird duch einen Ionizier
ersetzt .
Any pickup recommendations for the RG8?
Awesome, thx for your help!
I used to have a pair of Ionizers in an RG8, can check my videos from last year, sounded absolutely stunning and very versatile.
If you already bought it, I certainly would recomend you a Seymour Duncan Nazgul or Pegasus.
i just bought rg8, i love it :) i put pegasus on bridge and sentinent on neck :)
joona mustonen Oh mannn!! You just did exacty what I wanted to do! To buy an RG8 and to put both pickups :D Good stuff, I hope you enjoy your new toys :)
Dude, the TAM10 has like 8 different personalities. I think they discontinued this model; I hope they make another TAM.
Endlich mal einer, der schwarze Gitarren auch langweilig findet. Es gibt durchaus schöne schwarze Geigen, aber es müssen doch nicht alle so sein. Die RG8 in Walnut sieht imo deutlich besser aus. Sehr nette Review btw.
Thank you so much for not playing annoying metal
Then why do you own a black guitar?
8:46 Just listen to this he's so right :3 one day I will buy that guitar, but first the rg8, the tam10 is unaffortable for me :p
Good stuff, thanks
Im not sure he quite gets the point of an 8 string :p you shouldnt really get something tuned so low if youre playing classic metal or thrash. A seven string is more than enough if you want to play low. Theyre really more suited to progressive metal genres, tech death, or jazz, where the extended range is most useful. Nonetheless, its a good tonal exhibition, and watching someone play funk on an 8 string was amusing
not sure you get the point of music then.
7 string acoustic makes practical sense. Well lets see how many professional guitar player s actually replace their 6 string with these electric .
If the TAM 10 wasn´t so ugly i would get one ASAP :(
You good sir, are not djent , not djent at all....
matthew robinson No, I am definately Not :-)))
Basssss wood. Bass like the fish. Just saying
Nah. It needs to Djent more.