Business Owner Devastated by Brexit
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Europe is a big club. And the Brits decided they no longer wanted to be in it. Nothing has changed, there are no new laws, or duties, or import papers. They were always there. You just didn't need to deal with them because you were in the club.
You left, that's it.
Brexit was idiocy. I worked for a small business and experienced this exact same thing
It's a really sad story but it does make me angry when people say things like "I don't think anyone was really aware of what the real consequences would be". If you remove yourself from the biggest trade bloc in the world and go it alone then this is what happens! More than this, I am labelled a remoaner because I am one of the people who could see this coming. I voted against BREXIT, not for myself, but for people like this gentleman. We (remoaners) weren't angry because we "lost", we were (still are) angry because we knew how bad it woul d be for the entire country This country is a shambles, a shell of what it was, we are the laughing stock of the world. If I didn't have ageing parents I'd leave right now.
@JJ LongeMann probably true but it will be years before people in the UK realise and years later to rejoind the SM + CU leave if you can is my advise.
Very well said, Keith. I came here to make this exact point. Truth is, there were a *HUGE* amount of people who could see this coming... they're called Remainers and I'm proud to be one of them.
Now here we are, on a rollercoaster ride that no one wants to be on.
"I am labelled a remoaner" they're like schoolkids calling names oblivious to reality.
@JJ LongeMann if common sense prevail, yes. Common sense is, however, not overwhelmingly present in the UK. Don't be too optimistic.
You're right. I own a small business which has been trading with European companies for more than 30yrs. I remembered what it was like trading before the Single Market came into being so I knew what what kind of difficulties brexit would bring or should I say could bring because nobody actually voted for what Johnson eventually imposed on us. Before the referendum, my warnings to friends and acquaintances were dismissed as project fear by some; those people preferred to believe the lies of the Leave campaign but it wasnt as if they hadn't been informed. The difficulty for many trading companies throughout the whole brexit disaster has been that they have been afraid to speak up for fear of alienating the proportion of their customers who voted for this egregious act of self harm. The larger UK companies have been able to cope with brexit, albeit at a high cost, by taking actions like moving some of their operations into the EU or working through local dealers or setting up their own customs clearing operations. Those companies will survive but they wont invest further in their UK operations which, in time, will mean that many will eventually move all of their operations out of the UK. It is the smaller companies like the one in the video who wont survive and the only help they'll get from this govt is advice telling them to find other markets. Angry is too small a word for how I feel about brexit
They thought, "We could leave this amazing club (EU) but we'll still get all of the benefits of being in the club." How stupid do you have to be to believe that? This is all self-inflicted.
The biggest unelected liar was BoJo and his infamous statement: £350,000,000 into the NHS every week as it won't be being paid to the EU. Strange how no-one has investigated this biggest liar in the country - the feeble moron who hides and avoids the consequences for his lies. Same as all of the other government liars.
Most importantly they hoped that leaving the club would bring the collapse of the club. That's actually the only way for the Brexit to succeed, collapse of EU. This is what is particularly nasty with a lot of brexiters.
Johnson, British, stupid😂😂😂😂
@@kakab66Truth is, the club became easier to manage without UK on board (well, there's still some issues with Hungary etc, but you get the point). UK was never fully onboard, happy to access the common market, but not being part of Eurozone or Shengen area and just picking the obligations they liked while also blocking many of the projects that mattered for the other countries.
@MrDiamondFlyer I always say that. Brexit is a blessing for the EU. I like to provocatively say to my brexiter friends that I support their struggle and their vote.
"I don't think anybody was aware, of the consequences..."
That depends entirely on the echo chamber you immersed yourself in. Some were shouting this very loudly.
Indeed. As a european I tried to tell brits before the referendum that duties will be a problem. For flow as well as for the prices (and thus demand). And that they will be applied to a third country (what they needed to become to get rid of european rules regarding products).
What I got as an answer was mostly something alike "never, we are in the better position, stop spreading fear, they wont do that".
I d say: Serverd as ordered.
we was warned and people voting for a traveling sales men in a jimmy savile rowe suit paid for by the tax man to be strong and stable in the national interest of the tory party.
"Project Fear" was actually the umbrella term to dismiss the voices of those who WERE aware. So yes, you are right.
@@andydudley1775 It's not even the interest of the party itself - just members and friends of members who stood to benefit from the changes directly in various contracts.
It was a fixed game to make money from the taxpayer and the idiots who voted Leave just walked right into the trap.
Absolutely. Honestly, this version of Brexit is one of the best of a terrible lot. It could have ended MUCH worse.
What winds me up is when i hear people/MPs saying Europe is hitting us with checks and fees to punish us for leaving.
I can't be bothered to even argue anymore I just shake my head in disbelief.
I think they say this because it is what they would do if in the reverse. The UK government would punish Europe; indeed it was topmost in the minds of many leave voters who owned businesses.
@@niclapy Exactly. They didn't care how businesses outside of the EU were knocked with these checks and fees, made less competitive, until they had to pay them and then they think that they're especially for them. It's a tad like Italy reaping the benefits of their location for thousands of years and spending it on wars, stunning buildings, silk and wine but then asking for handouts the moment it isn't beneficial, as if they haven't had the opportunity to prepare and save when times were good.. Amazed me how many small businesses who traded primarily with Europe, who also voted to leave. People retired and living in the EU voted to leave and then wondered what happened, it's dumbfounding. It's not as far [enough] from the US without the guns in terms of public awareness of the facts.. Or willingness to ignore them for what sounds nice to the ego.
I don't doubt there's some malicious compliance but mostly it will be that the import /export guys are suddenly having to figure out the regulations after they were not relevant for 30 years
The moral of the story is, they've been so used to easy access to the EU market that it comes as a shock to them that they are having to deal with the EU market as a third country, they should have known better because the terms are not that different with the EU and other third countries around the world.
Honestly, I think many Brexiteers honestly thought that nothing would change or that the UK had the upper hands in the talks, it was completely delusional, the UK doesn't seem to have the upper hand when doing a trade deal with Australia, never mind the EU, it's sad to see the education level and level of ignorants in the UK on Brexit and honestly, I think the only way Brexiteers are going to learn is when it starts to hit their living standards, naturally they'll blame everyone but themselves but in the end, the real blame is the person that's looking in the mirror.
@@rickybuhl3176 I have you right. They thought the German motor industry will suffer so much, they will agree to whatever terms we came up with. One of my colleagues at work kept saying this, it was like on auto play. Ordinarily we are not expected to discuss politics at work so I just watched him in amazement. I wonder what his views are now, the idiot.
Unjustified duties? Come on man, you are out of the EU. Wake up.
Hi man, would you explain why there is protectionism against Uk and not from other extra Eu countries ? EU parliament is a mafia, UK don't accept his impositions and decided to step out. Now mafia is reacting... just that..
DHL made a mistake when classifying the declared item that was shipped. Are you deaf?
@@_loss_ It wasn't a mistake. It's DHL we're talking about. Anyone who hasn't been scammed by DHL can't understand why they're the only company that can charge 60-150 € for a 5€ purchase from China and 400€ duty for some goods clearly stated as duty free by French regulations and with all the necessary documents regarding the shipping.
But it’s not duty free. Why would it be ? Any charge over 250 euros has duty. There is no duty free regime between the uk and Europe. VAT must be collected and the appropriate duties. There are high tariffs into Europe. If some discount was given it would have to be given to every other country in the world. France doesn’t set these rates, it’s Europe wide.
@@bedel23 When a 89€ PC case priced in France at 156€, it's exempted from duty. So much more when it comes with the necessary custom form. Charging undue $400 is the way DHL do business.
As a matter of fact DPD is also a rotten courrier that doesn't deliver quite often but notifies a delivery on the tracking system.
The charges he mentions in the second minute are not 'unexpected' or 'unjustified' they are a consequence of the decision to leave. Plain and simple.
Exactly Darren, well said.
BUT many business owners still voted to leave. Now they're paying the price for such.
yes and thanks to fools !!!!
Plain as the nose that used to be on your face, you know the pointy thing attached to your face, which Brexit took an axe too ....
It just shows you that if you run a referendum as an opinion poll, and not as a legal-technical-decision-making-process, nobody hears any of the detail. They might learn something from Ireland on how to run referenda that do not waste everyones time.
They don't get it that they're now a third country like any other. It will always being the EUs fault, somehow.
Shocking that leaving your largest market means you aren’t part of that market anymore and are treated like you’re outside of the market.
We voted to enter the market originally, we did not vote to join a political union.
@@weyits10 What were your MEPs doing ,they had a seat the the table with veto power . It sounds like the UK was just a weak member of the EU that no one took seriously .
@@weyits10 Cool. Join the EEA then.
@@frmcf They can't, Norway will never allow this. The UK would dominate the EEA and endanger the good relations they have with the EU. The impact of the UK is ten times that of all EEA members combined.
It would be like inviting an elephant into a midget neighborhood.
@@weyits10 Of course you did, wtf. Do you think all subsequent reforms of the EU were made without UK's consent to them?! The House of Commons of course ratified all new treaties, thus agreed to join a political Union. And since the House of Common represents the British people, the British people agreed to this.
As a Brit, living happily in Europe since 2002, this just makes me beyond sad. Nothing has really changed over here. Europe has simply moved on.
I escaped in 2018 , vids like these keep reminding me how important my Spanish language is, love from the EU and Gran Canaria.
Salt in wound ,
I left in '83 as the miner's strikes started and have watched theTories slowly destroy the UK because it makes them lotsa money; I bet Brexit's been a huge success for some people...
can u go back home now? we dont need the language or culture or people of england
Europe moved on, found new suppliers outside the UK. And many will do so in the near future. The damage for small businesses is done; customers gone somewhere else.
Unjustified duties? Everybody outside the Single Market has to pay them.
It's actually the Customs Union not the single market that means duties. Single market is to do with tariffs. I think he was contending that DHL had made a mistake in the calculation and that to even get them to look at it he had to pay 50 euros plus vat to DHL.
@@FlummoxedCartwright So what? You're out and hopefully it will stay this way.
@@walterrudich2175 yeah, thanks for your input. You sound lovely.
@@FlummoxedCartwright But this is the consequence of leaving the single market.
UK business owner has to ask back his payed VAT and pay German VAT so the customer pays the same price as before. When he doesn't his stuff gets double taxed and much to expensive to export.
If he puts the VAT he received back from the UK in his own pocket, and doesn't reduce the price with it, that's the same.
If I receive a smart phone and the business puts a value of only € 10 on it, so I only have to pay € 2 in VAT, the import office will stop this parcel and value it € 400 with a tax bill of € 80
If I want to protest against this procedure, I have to pay the costs, because else the import office will be overwhelmed with free protests and cannot do its job. It's as simple as that.
Everything I receive as 'sample' or 'no value' but is not, the price will be the advisory price of the object.
Which is usually more than I payed for it. Honest administration can save the customer a lot.
Canadian here. Just bought a RatRig (3d Printer) from the EU. I paid all the duties as well, it's what I'm used to doing. It's what you get for not being part of the group. I can't believe you left? Such a shame.
Anyone who didn't see this coming simply trusted the wrong people. Anyone who tried to point out out these likely difficulties was sneered at. You wanted out; you're out. On yer bike.
Anyone who didn't see this coming simply trusted known and proven liars.
There corrected that for you :D
Im not Britsh but from my engagement wirh Brita on this subject had me flabergasted.
There were a few types of Brexiters but the main ones fell under either
A. Complete absence of any form of logic algorithms in their thought process or reasoning abilities
( leaving the participation and membership of the biggest trading block thinking there will be very little downside risk is mindbogglingly reckless.
If it isnt than that person has had some form of brain injury where their risk to reward gyroscope has gone wonkey ).
B. Living in a bubble that is not connected to the current realities of the world
( these are usually the ones whom give a very strong Britania rules the waves again vibes.
You are better off talking to brain dead zombies tham these lot as they are absolutely clueless of what the EU is and what are the club membership benefits enjoyed by UK etc etc.
Their talking points and arguments are all monotonously similiar to each other to the point where they could have just cut and pasted their arguments from one of the many right wing social media accounts whom were literally just copying from each other themselves. )
C. The clueless cupcakes whom are very tribal and virulently hate the labour party in its current form.
D. The earth is flat, chemtrails are real and the Queen belongs to a race of lizard people. All these are nothing but false flag operations, wake up you sheeples, stop being stupid by watching fake news CNN and BBC.
The Professors from the I do my own research mensa members club.
( One was waxing lyricals on how the UK is now free to do many more trade deals with many countries in the world because we are no longer bound by that SINGLE EU trade deal.
I think the UK was about to sign something with Japan at the time and was entering negotiations with Aussie and India.
For the life of me I couldnt show them why its damn dumb to exit a membership that is UKs largest "domestic" market and an existing trade deal under that union with other countries which would logically have much better terms because of EUs market size. It will be a much better deal than one negotiated by a much smaller nation with a much smaller domestic market.
Was like talking to a brick shithouse.
Finally I told some of them that Im not an expert but I get a feeling Britain is going to feel very dissapointed with what will be offered to it as a trade deal by countries like Aussie and India.
Thats because
A. UK will be without a trade deal and is playing a weaker hand going into these negotiations.
B. Any country will want to be on an excellent relations with EU and will not risk rolling down a red carpet for the UK trade delegation.
C. The false impression and vibes given by Donald Trump which lead the UK to think the US is on their side and that trade deal alone will make up for most of EUs.
Domald calculated the value UK and EU represented to him and he choose to lean more towards whatever that profitted him more.
All of a sudden he wasnt picking up Boris Johnsons or Farages phone calls.
If the saying shot its own foot became a meme, it will be drapped in the UKs colours.
@@theallseeingeye9388 All true!👍☘️
Anyone who didn't see this coming was simply immature and childish, not to mention without much business sense. How could anybody believe that nothing much would change when Britain left a certain club? They do understand what happens if they leave their local knotting/bowling club, you're no longer a member and no longer have access to the advantages that these clubs offer. On the other hand, you no longer need to pay membership fee, attend boring club meetings and abide by the club's rules. Now decide what more important to you.
It just shows that EU made it very easy for many in the UK to have successful businesses. The number of previously successful entrepreneurs who now demonstrate that they don't understand the basics of their business environment is staggering.
@@theallseeingeye9388 Rather long reply but of course you are right. We are now going cup in hand to join the CPTPP which is the asian trading block. We have now left the largest trading block because we do not want anyone to make our rules, rules of which we actually contributed to or actually proposed, including the exit rules. If admitted into the CPTPP, we will be following rules of which we had no role in drafting. Total genious.
If you want the benefits of a single market, then don‘t leave it
My business too has been destroyed by brexit. I get so steamed up by people talking about brexit benefits and opportunities. I'm on antidepressants and have lost a decade worth of efforts. I've seriously considered ending everything several times. It's even more painful when you find that people you know and trusted voted for this despite any warnings you gave. Brexit is toxic, destructive and just so stupid it's criminal.
And the criminqls got away with it.
Don't top yourself over a fucking business.
Move forward try something else try to eat stay hydrated exercise a bit to get rid of nervous energy. Best of luck
Good luck me friend, you can make it
May I ask what business you are in? Also get Byline TV to do your story too.
You’ll bounce back mate. If you’ve got the wherewithal to start your own business then you can do it again, domestically. You’re more experienced now and what you do next, if your current business doesn’t survive due to Brexit, will be a better version. Brexit makes me angry, sad and frustrated in equal measures but don’t let the b@stards get you down.
He calls his extra expenses unjustified and unreasonable. Nowhere does he really blame Brexit. He still doesn't really seem to understand or connect the dots. British exceptionalism at work. Britain voted to be in the same league as Zambia and Zimbabwe, so just get in the back of the line to enter into or export to the European Community and don't blame anybody else for the mess you put yourself in. I do feel really sorry for all the young people in Britain who are now locked up on their island, not so for these old fools who put the cross in the wrong box to the detriment of themselves and the young, many of whom couldn't even vote, or didn't bother to.
Thing is that country doesn't make much the world needs. It has no industry or resources to speak off.
So they voted for their own death.
Just banking, property and retailing.
Membership of the EU kept Britain from fully capitalising on trade with other major economies such as Japan, India and the US to name but a few.
This is just one guy / one business opinion and not realistic of overall picture.
"Former U.S. President Donald Trump slapped 25% and 10% tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from the European Union in 2018. The tariffs were withdrawn in October of this year, but they remain in place for Britain due to its exit from the EU." says Reuters
Great US trade deal, there is none. You're committing suicide and don't even know ir. WAKE UP
@@elmo319 🤦♂
@@marcvangastel2157 - so Britain supplies steel and aluminium to the US? Trump is not even president?
I remember the closed borders between Belgium and France when I was little. When we went on Holiday to France, we were sometimes stopped at the border for random checks. There was always a traffic jam that could take hours. Since the free movement there are no border checks and you hardly notice crossing the border. And I'm 41. Surely the elderly people of the UK remember this situation? I still cannot believe that the UK shot itself in the foot like this.
You were lucky, I lived on the border of the Warsaw Pact ;-)
you could have just used country roads to get over the border without checks, still works to this day, whenever austria decides to reinstate border control then there are still hundreds of mountain passes through the alps where, to quote a german saying: "fox and owl say good night"
Well folks wanted Brexit, people wanted to be UKcentric and proud of being British whilst regaling in its splendid isolation. I do genuinely feel incredibly sorry for that gentleman who’s struggling to keep his business going through all the nonsense thrown up by leaving the EU. You can all thank Dave, Boris, Nigel and the terrible tories for this horrendous mess.
The Brexit people don't like buying British is the problem.
They like ordering from a Chinese seller on eBay or Amazon.
When it comes to actually spending to support the UK they are not interested.
@@user-gf3fr2ye3z well a lot of Amazon marketplace sellers I know are getting stuffed as well. They had a lot of EU trade but that has fallen off a cliff for obvious reasons.
But they will still keep voting for them.
@@user-gf3fr2ye3z don’t like. Ha ha. Don’t have money for
@@DarylBaines working class people that vote tory is the equalivalent of "hurt me more daddy"
I came to the UK from Portugal 10 years ago, looking for a better life after the 2008 crash. I was under the impression that England was multi-cultural and inclusive, what I didn't know is that they were so begrudgingly! Since the Brexit vote (the fact it was even CONSIDERED!) this country is an embarrassment, covid was an embarrassment, the Tories are an embarrassment, 'little-Britain' areas are an embarrassment, the fact they went ahead with a 52% to 48% non-binding referendum uninformed decision is an embarrassment, the healthcare and 1.3 hospital beds per 1000 residents is an embarrassment, the treatment of LGBTQ+ minorities is an embarrassment, the explosion of food banks and poverty is an embarrassment, 37 Billion pounds allocated to a failure of a Test and Trace system and then 'stealing' back £20 off people on benefits is an embarrassment, the way you treat and degrade disabled people in interviews is an embarrassment.
This country is backward thinking, anachronistic, and medieval. Half of its population is entitled, un-informed, stubborn, arrogant, and with delusions of glory from the 1940's. Plus your weather is sh!t... If I didn't have a 2-year-old son 'stuck' here with his prude conservative mother I would have left in 2016. England has spat on the face of their closest neighbors, making everyone feel unwelcome and undesired, and now they b!tch and moan about not having "the staff". You reap what you fxxxing sow...
England should be a country for englishmen not a multicultural one.
gigi, tua madre@@gigifabozzi5433
Ditto.
@@gigifabozzi5433then you should all be running to the shops of englishmen like this guy. But youre all too poor to afford your own food and clothes bc youve willingly gave all your rights to billionaire tories.
You sound mad
Justifiably so
(Edit; wow this is an old comment. How are things mate? Any better?)
I feel sorry for this gentleman. But I still laugh my pants off when I remember a similar video with the owner of a flowers export business that went bankrupt, business with most of its customers in EU, but the owner was brave enough to acknowledge that he voted for the Brexit.
GOOD
These people who say ‘I don’t think anyone was really aware of the consequences of Brexit’ really piss me off! Also, I don’t know anyone who was rejoicing (thankfully).
Eh your in a bubble, i know plenty.
Now the vast majority are very dismissive of any problems, its all because of covid (although half of them also deny covid so figure that one out) or all sorts of rubbish they can blame it on.
Absolutely! There was a whole raft of people giving warnings, but they chose to ignore or label 'project fear ' . Well here it is the reality.
Plenty of people celebrated. There were independence parties.
Some people are easily conned, just look at the scams going on right now. I know old people can be spoken too - 10 mins later have forgotten everything.
Its very sad for a lot of them.
Bloody evil for the ones who knew better.
We don't know how he voted, but the majority without businesses wouldn't appreciate the impact. VAT changes in 2015 also hit many small businesses doing business with Europe, and the authorities realised too late that they hadn't foreseen the significant adverse impact and the number of businesses affected. He should consider other couriers though as DHL are one of the worst when it comes to customs processing and handling changes.
"I don't think anyone was aware", I wonder if this dude used the phrase "project fear" at any time before brexit.
Because I'm pretty sure all these issues were raised multiple times and dismissed, perhaps less dailymail and telegraph m8.
No sympathy for his ignorance, I lost my business due to brexit, and I was VERY VERY aware, and was shouting it from the roof tops while being ignored.
Absolutely, you just nailed it right there. Heads were buried in the sand and anyone with half a brain knew this was going to happen
@Bri Ba got a council job, less stress, a lot less money, and I sunk everything I made in my old company trying to work out a way to keep it alive (that was a mistake I should have took the money and run, tried something totally different).
I enjoy it the new job and its steady, and my experience let's me really help people out.
But someone else should have this job.
I feel really bad for the people I used to employ.
One of them has been a very good friend of mine for years, single mother, hard working, she had a full time job but I used to give her work which really helped her out.
She was a brexit voter lol, we don't talk politics, she keeps asking me if I can get her any work, makes me want to scream sometimes.
Daily mail wanted Brexit.
Yeah, I'm guessing the guy in the video voted for his own suffering.
@@tmarritt Big and small businesses alike didn't want to speak out, leaving the field wide open for all the liars and phantasts who did speak out. You should have had a talk, no screaming of course, just a talk. And you should still have that talk to make her aware of the consequences of her vote, I think it would make you feel better, and maybe bring some sense to her.
As an American living in Italy I frequently purchased on line products from the UK which were not available in Italy or the rest of Europe. Now with the duties imposed I refrain. I was really gutted when this Brexit nonsense was approved by voters. British voters are equal in gullibility to American voters who I have long considered the least informed on the planet.
Just remember, the vote was 52% to 48%, despite a campaign based on lie, upon lie, upon lie by the Leave side. You had your turn with the liar Trump and the Republicans, but at least you could reverse that 4 years later. Not all British voters or American voters are gullible. Just a hardcore of bigots and racists, peddling lies and preying on fear sufficiently to win the day. Don't lump us all together, please.
They are not 'unjustified' or 'incorrect' chargers. They are charges because his goods do not comply with the rules of origin. That's the 'free trade' outside the single market and the customs union for the EU and UK trade now. Nothing will change it for at least a decade.
I noticed this terminology too; he came across as a burnt/regretful leaver who didn't want to say which way he voted. Anyone who looked into what leave meant would have understood the third country charges their goods would have been subjected to and so would not call them ‘incorrect’.
I was charged twice, once courtesy of the UK, 2nd of France for a part for a bike rear wheel. Mistake was of the courier. The shop owner was pretty candid, should not have happened, but you wont get it back. Its a shame as the owner of the shop actually went to a lot of trouble to understand the different mechanisms that apply now and explained them on his site. UK is a closed shop as far as buying goods for Europe now.
@@mastermirror1972 Yes, but if you know anything about rules of origin and being a distributor in clothing, given he is unlikely to have produced the silk and the leather in the UK, these products will not meet the rules of origin. This is why UK clothing exports to the EU have suffered even more, down by more than 50%. That is, it's VAT plus tariffs.
Why? Because DHL, filing export declarations on behalf of UK exporters to the EU, will not take the hit from rules of origin, hence they are charging everything with VAT and tariffs. Hence all the problems with small deliveries even when the rules of origin documentation was not required during the past year.
Maybe he should have really have kept his little englander hat off, cos that's what brexit is,
Not sorry for him, cos if he voted against brexit, he would be calling Johnson and brexit out for the sham it is.
@@michaelboyle5805 ...and yet he is calling it 'unjustified' and 'incorrect'. Completely agree.
The charges and duty are NOT "unjustified". They are a consequence of Brexit, Mr. Greig.
A mistake has been made. QED.... Nothing to do with Germany.
Watch the video then read what you just said
@@Devountor Andrew has right. You watch it
That depends on the origin of the wares he sold to germany. If they are of british origin the error was made by DHL, if the wares were imported into the UK and then exported again the duty is legitimate and a consequence of Brexit.
Regardless 50 euros for an inquiry to recheck their own invoice are way too much but quite usual for DHL; last time I imported a book from the US I had to pay 1.05 euro customs duty and tax and an additional 7.50 euro to DHL for the duty handling fee... )-;
@@ren_dhark Incorrect, but with a "gamer name" it's understandable.
@@frofrofrofro900 Ja, ich habe Recht, j'ai raison - I AM right/correct ✅. Thanks 🌹🙏.
I am French, and for a long time, quite a lot of people were seriously contemplating an exit of the EU, and wanted it.
But since Brexit, that part of the population has shrunk considerably, and almost all strong, "important" political parties who used to promise Frexit, have backtracked and no longer clnsider a full-on exit. If anything, this was a lesson for a lot of persons.
the same happened in Italy and all across Europa...
I'm French too, I agree with but we have still some people talking about leaving... I'm thinking of Emmanuel Todd, for instance. However I think the EU is perfectible, and it will be easier without some of the English.
"Oh, so you want to leave, eh? Go ahead! Go! Let's see how you're going to do without us. Just look at what happened to the UK." 😂
The people who wants many countries to exit the EU are russian bots, they write a lot of comments on the internet about "Frexit" or many things like that, but their purpose is to make the EU weak and broken to let Putin invade the country he wants. And of course, redneck politicians who read these comments are sure there is some voters here, this is why some of them are still talking about leaving the EU.
Better to try and redress your problems with the EU from within the system than to exit the EU as then youre out ona limb with no hope of a return
Remember, the U.K. voted for all the rules for access to the EU.
A point not made enough.
The EU, the biggest reduction in red tape ever in progress. Customs, VAT, standards, you produce and sell in the EU, you don’t have to worry of those. All aligned.
Outside the EU, it’s WTO: a nightmare.
The EU also has trade agreements with countries which are not members: Switzerland, Norway, Japan, countries in sub-Saharan Africa and Turkey. A trade agreement is also being negotiated with Australia at the time of writing.
@@ilokivi
Yeah, but TAs don’t come out of nowhere, they must be negotiated first.
In the EU it was everyone is treated pretty equally, everyone has a say. When the TA must be negotiated with a Third Country the EU must and should throw its full weight into negotiations, squeezing as much advantage out of the far weaker partner (in this case Britain, or ideally just England). The TA will still be better than WTO rules, and yet…and yet it will still remain an imbalanced deal because it will likely result in full compliance with EU rules but the Third Country will have no power or right worth mentioning to partake in shaping those rules - unlike as it did before as a member state.
@@-----REDACTED----- Ahhh..... do you remember those halcyon days when we sat at the top table of the largest trading block in the world. The good old days, if only someone (other than every re-moaner screaming rom the rooftops) had warned us. 🤔
Exactly.
@@-----REDACTED----- the uk has a trade agreement its just that its shit for the uk's side. As you would expect from a small island vs the biggest trade block in the world, especially when the smaller party has promised the country to get a deal asap and has to take whatever to save face.
I sent friends Christmas gifts to Scotland from Germany, it cost me 30 euros to send a package (25cm x 17cm x 10cm) and the recipient had to pay £80 something because I was obliged to disclose the value of the gifts. Furthermore, had the recipient not paid, it would have been sent back and I would have had to pay the £80 and transport costs. Happy days. Thanks leavers!
I sent my brother and his kids Christmas presents years ago, with each individual named, but they charged import duty as if it was for one person and wouldn't deliver until it was paid. Happy Christmas everybody but no more presents in the mail :(
I got a package from freaking China with free shipping and no additional charges except for the 14 dollars the item was listed for. I am shocked your post makes you pay that much.
English were never good at maths or theyd never have left the EU
@@pushpenderrana6190 ❤for sure
Beautiful. For some reason, what he and his buddies _explicitly voted for_ came "unexpected and unjustified", yet all the unexpected and unjustified growth from a humble beginning due to being a part of the EU didn't come to mind now, did it? Just listen to him "trading with Europe" as if it's some far away region he isn't a very part of. That tells you all you ever needed to know about Brexit in general and this fine gentleman in particular. Even after decades of partnerships, they never felt themselves a part of it. Good thing they showed themselves the door. You won, gramps, deal with it.
Indeed. When people speak of Anglo-Saxon they think of the English, yet where did the Angles and Saxons come from ..... ?
@@finishedarticle7953 The very same place their queen's lineage hails from. 😊
Indeed. Well spotted
Touche!
And those German Europeans sent him documents in German, shocking. British exceptionalism I'm sure.
A very sad tale of a small business succeeding and growing, then abruptly ruined for someone else's political ambition. What makes it worse is that those directly responsible are unwilling to make amends and have refused to reconsider the choice they have made.
And that is because the people behind this wanted to leave the EU to avoid things like the new money laundering and tax avoidance regulations.
The people behind Brexit are getting exactly what they wanted and what they expected.
People like this are insignificant collateral damage to them, they are making millions and billions and slowly turning the UK into a fascist dictatorship as a bonus.
A very sad... What? Get real 😂
Blame Cameron for leaving us the choice just before he ran off.
@@manwithapan9481 No Blame all the Brexiteers for lying to everyone and calling information Project fear.
Ohh well, all of You was warned about Brexshit, didn't you??? You was laughing and joking with Remainers, with EU FURRINERS, with projects fear etc.. Now you're WHINING 🤔🤔🤔
Didn't you know what you was voted for??? 🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🦄🦄🦄🤥🤥🤥
Difficult selling to the EU? Then he should sell to Canada or the US or Japan or Brazil. What's that? Those countries charge tariffs and duties? So why are you so surprised the EU does it too?
I feel for this businessman but my eyes roll every time I hear "nobody knew"!
How many times can anyone repeat something when "nobody" is listening?
I can explain this part. It means he voted for Brexit.
So frustrating to still hear people like this say "noone knew what was coming", there were around 1 million of us who marched in London that had chosen to listen to the experts or find out for ourselves what was coming instead of swallowing the propoganda in the DM and Torygraph. You could easily have chosen to inform yourself but were probably one of the ones calling us project fear. What exactly has been won? Who are the moaners now?
I would avoid any business owner who said to me that they did not realise there would be extra business costs to brexit.
I was there with you, Rod.
With the vitriol over leaving it’s no surprise the UK finds itself in this reality. A softer Brexit made sense but Remain debased the debate with insults against Leave extending the farce for over four years. No one emerged the victor. Had simple due regard for a narrow vote been respected then we’d have negotiated something better. The greatest affront was the spurious claim by Cameron that’d he’d pushed the EU as far as he could before calling the Referendum. He hadn’t. The mess started before the vote. On propaganda, we’ve not seen the end of what the press and government collude to perpetuate against the population. Brexit first. Covid-19 second. Hopefully, never a third chance.
@@rjy8960 dude, Rod is still moaning, just let it go.
I marched too among the people there.
"I wanna play your nice golf court but I don't wan't to pay for membership or green fee".
😂
Who said that? Not this tradesman in the video. Moreover, it is golf course, not court and there is no apostrophe in the word 'want'.
@@danyoutube7491 It seems that I hit a sore spot😇. BTW; Did I ask you, or someone else for that matter, to correct my english? ( English is not my mother tongue)
I was feeling for the guy, "a real pleasure to have customers all across Europe", but it quickly stopped when he said " we all rejoiced with Brexit, taking back control...etc". I don't think his stupid, he's just too proud for his own good and had it coming.
I don't think he meant that he was rejoicing.. he meant 'many people rejoiced', ie those who supported brexit. That's how if interpreted what he said.
Yes. He was just describing the stupidity of those voters that the brexiters conned.
@@duncanwallace7760 , he was one himself no doubt. Sad all the same.
I think you might need to give this gentleman some credit for the use of extremely understated irony. It's a British thing, and easily missed.
@@mjmcb1 Maybe. I've seen too many situations in comments where the irony was so undetectable that people found themselves arguing with people who agreed with them. I'm struggling to figure out if I agree with my own earlier comment. Exhausting. Phew!
"unjustified" are you kidding me !!! even now people have no idea what a 3rd country means ....
It's exactly this enormous sense of entitlement and exception that drives me up the walls. I mean, how could rules ever apply to him, as an English businessman, right?
Why can't he bend and break the law at will "in a very limited and specific way only", like his friends in Westmonster? The nerve! 🤬
Hi from Germany...
I've been buying stuff from the UK/Britain for YEARS... until BREXIT.
The extra fees and hoops you have to jump through now just make it no longer worth.
And I'm clearly not the only one. Not to mention bigger businesses who just stopped trading with Britain for the same reasons.
Same. It’s sad, but it was foreseeable from a mile away. Everybody who informed himself knew.
Also ich finde diese Gesamtsituation einfach nur witzig.
I had some sympathy for him until he started babbling about "unjustified fees" and "mistakes others have made" and "nobody knew"
Small businesses are properly fooked. That´s what it is, that is what was said hundreds of times and that´s how it will be from now on. You won, get over it.
Yep. This is like someone being told shooting themselves in the foot is dangerous and then shooting themselves in the foot and complaining “nobody told me that shooting myself in the foot was dangerous”. I think it’s now known as the “Boris Johnson Defence”.
I am sure this man voted probrexit thinking about the nostalgic empire.
Many people were aware of the consequences but were not listened to.
That consignment he was talking about was sent before the end of transition but DHL applied charges that weren’t applicable at that point
Same... Willfull ignorance now enjoy the true brexit benefits...
I feel for this man but why does he say “unjustified charges for duty”? Duty is legal and justified on imports from a third country in order to protect EU businesses, that is the whole point of a single market and customs union. We keep the profitable business to ourselves and third countries are welcome to exist on the fringes picking up any small niches not filled by EU companies as long as we can get duty from those niche transactions.
There is no level playing field between EU companies and companies in third countries, nor should there be.
Which on the whold is very unjust, You somehow have successfully explained how draconian and stupid Duty is.
Too many people had grown up inside the EU block, and did not realize that nations do have borders. The EU block is a "super nation" letting people in the different nations trade and move as if they are all part of the same. It is like the California and Texas independence movements here in the USA. They would be shocked to discover they suddenly had to pay import taxes.
@@whakjob No it's not. Protection is needed or a country can simple destroy other. Let's say there is no duty fees, so china can produce and sell in your country at low prices making your country business go bankrupt. Since China is filty rich, they can even sell on loss (what is not allowed in EU, but how will you know if is produced in other country).
@@whakjob Have you ever sold stuff to the US or Japan? They also have loads of wonderful forms in all colours of the rainbow.
@@leechowning2712 What's really funny for me is that for some parts the EU is even more unified than the US. You can get vegs and fruits checked moving them from Michigan to California, that doesn't happen in the EU. Though the same VAT-shenanigans happens as well. So in small economic parts the EU is more unified than the US which is a flippin country
When the English education system failed me completely and utterly my options were none existent in the jobs market.
I travelled to Europe, lived and worked in Greece and Germany. The money I was able to earn enabled me to buy first home and broadened my horizons. I met different people, got my confidence that had been knocked out of me back.
Brexit, which I voted against has stolen the future my partner and I have worked towards. We are now trapped in little britain, our business has suffered irreparable damage due to the loss of the EU market about a third of our sales. We can no longer move to France, a move we'd been working toward for over a decade.
Probably the worst part is that my contempt for those who voted for this has ignited a hatred I've never felt before.
Plus pouvoir déménager en France ? Des Anglais y parviennent encore aujourd'hui... La Dordogne les accueille nombreux. Bon. Préparez vous : apprenez à parler français avant de partir et contacter vos compatriotes en France pour vous conseiller.
This man does not understand that the UK is a third country now- the charges were both expected, warned about and ignored by Brexiters. He has never 'exported' anything only moved goods within the customs union of the EU. I am intrigued as to his voting record in the referendum.
Exactly.
Not just the referendum, but also the following election.
@@Dan_and_Co Europe is just applying its rules, the rules we chose to have applied by leaving
@@Dan_and_Co "Europe wants to act this way"... We left the single market. I don't know what you think Brexit meant but this is it.
@@Dan_and_Co How is this Europe's fault? Who voted for Brexit.?
"stupidity has a price and it always gets paid"
"Unjustified", these people are still clueless.
As a reasonably educated Irishman and like most reasonably intelligent people - the following were obvious from day one.
1. A border on the island of Ireland could never happen
2. Multinationals and finance service centres will move out of the UK as they want a foothold in one the largest and most valuable of markets
3. Immigrants in the UK and UK emigrants in the EU will be in trouble
4. Trade tariffs will apply.
WTF were the leavers thinking of?
You have forgot that a lot of leave votes were cast to stop people coming into the uk, now what will they think now that India will supply labour to the uk???
The fools believed the grifters. Exceptionalism runs in their veins and now they are embracing victimhood.
And what's more, those multinationals generally want an English speaking foothold in the EU.
@@robertfalconer5089 So why would Indians want to come to a country outside of the EU?
As an EU immigrant, I'm not in trouble at all. I can go to,and work in, any EU country for a few years if I want to and then come back home to England. But I've heard UK nationals have a slight problem with that concept now.
Sorry but a lot of us who voted against Brexit knew exactly what was coming, because we took the trouble check what the trading arrangements where for third countries trading into the EU, which was what we became the day after 'Brexit' Day.
To be fair, the Leave campaign essentially promised them that they could leave the EU and keep all the advantages of being a member. Their voters just believed those lies.
'no one is talking about leaving the single market' - Vote Leave campaign.
@@kirishima638 as promised basically. I tell you the politicians know how to scapegoat foreigners and it works everytime. They were promised the entire Buffet + Kick anyone that's english out of the UK.
with macron rebooting is political campaign , he is now trolling the UK to get kudoses back home .
@@glennjanot8128 and the remain side said that was a lie. People actually had two shots at making this decision and they voted for Boris and we all have heard about his track record of misinformation.
@@glennjanot8128 The Conservative Party Mantra -
TRUST TOTALLY
in the IMMEASURABLE STUPIDITY
of those who believe us 😂
There is nothing 'unexpected' or 'unjustified' about paying duty on goods imported from outside the Single Market. My wife stocked up on loads of stuff from Holland & Barrett pre-January 2021, and now we deal with their Irish outlet. People *were* aware of the "real consequences", but when they tried to alert people it was called "Project Fear" - well, it's Project Fact now.
There was a report today that said one third of UK businesses have been severely affected by Brexit and are in danger of not making it to the end of the year .
A lot of business in the world have gone also, by something called a pandemic, which has nothing to do with brexit, ask the Turks.
Which report?
@@kevindare3113 Sure, the pandemic is damaging to businesses. So is Brexit. You can have more than one problem at the same time. It usually makes life harder when you do.
And the government and Tory press bury it because they cannot admit what a failure it is, therefore they will never attempt to fix it.
@@kevindare3113, 🤣🤣🤣 so, the pandemic is the reason for all paper work, vat and custom charges?
I have a tiny sympathy with this guy. But at the same time we ‘remainers’ were screaming from the rooftop that this would happen. I’d also venture that this guy voted Tory AND voted for Brexit. This IS the Brexit the Brexiteers wanted, you were warned.
I just wrote the same thing, he is a 100% Tory and Brexit voter, both the election and the referendum went his way, what’s the problem?
They called us *remoaners*, how ruuuuude..
I honestly don't get why you would try to be so superior here. Say you're right and this bloke voted for the Brexit, he was conned. That's not his fault, as a remainer, you should know that these people were lied to. For all we know though, he didn't vote at all or he was a remainer, in which case he's the victim of the lie. It frankly doesn't matter what he voted, show the man some compassion. He's a human being. If he made a mistake with his vote, he certainly wasn't alone. Why kick a man when he's down?
How do we know how he voted? Xx
@@TheDandonian The they were lied to is not a valid argument. everybody were. And the realities were there for everybody to investigate. The brexidiots were warned-over and over and over again. Yet their approach was not to look into the warnings-but harass those who brought them forward. People who did not vote for this suffer-and as long as innocents suffers-i am very ok with brexidiots suffering as well. Brexittards also did all in their power to stop a second referendum that could have stopped the whole thing even after the picture got a lot clearer. They are totally responsible. They should face the consequences more than the rest. Another thing:
for your "they were lied to" argument to be valid and excusing them from their responsibility, the voting right of brexittards should be stripped away. If it is accepted they cannot be responsible voters as you indicate with your argument-they should not vote. I have never heard about a brexittard giving up his right to vote. Thus they are fully responsible.
I've been working in export for more than 20 years. If you sell out of your country you pay duties and taxes. If you are part of the EU, it just like selling in your own Country, when you sell in any and every countries of the Union. Brexiteers really believed they would not be part of the team, but still get the same benefits? I can't wrap my head around that. I know you have your commonwealth, don't really know how that works, and maybe that got you confused... Still, ... 🤦♀
Sad he still thinks the Government made a mistake They didn't it was intentional and its not even started yet. He just needed to listen to the experts in their field telling you, the hint was Third country. UK decided to be a competitor rather than a team player. Bingo.
Tories and Farage have a lot to answer for.
True
He says "I don't think anyone was aware of the real consequences of Brexit".
Really! Every time remainers warned people that this exact thing would happen they were shouted down and called remoaners and accused of project fear!
I wonder how this man voted in 2016.
Internet and amazon. Shop owners are exactly like this WITHIN the EU as well.... Think about it. This is the worst kind of cherry picking / constructed narrative...
Did businesses not educate themselves about Brexit and how it would affect them? If this is how businesses operate it's a wonder they can survive.
More to do with Amazon than Brexit. Same in all nations, even inside the EU where I live.
People don't realise what they have until they lose it. If you have ever lived outside of the EU then you know how expensive it is to order something from the EU due to the additional border charges. A £50 order easily becomes £80 after customs and additional fees.
Due to omicron i couldn't make it back ro ire 4 xmas, so my gifts got posted. Ended up having 2 pay a bunch of customs charges, i guess baa humbug is now the officiall gov motto
£30 brokerage is nothing, was told between £50 and £100 for a £35 part for a Glass washer last week and up to 6 weeks delivery, used to be nothing and with be in a couple of days.
@@timballam3675 Standard UPS import charges from UK to Europe (Austria) are 45 EUR plus the tax, depending on what prouct we are importing from UK
I am German; I don’t know how the lady in Germany that is mentioned in the video was even so lucky to be able to pay the duties to the delivery man. Every time I have ordered something from overseas which was above a certain threshold value for duty to be raised on it, I had to take time off from work (because of course their operating hours are the same as anyone else’s), go all the way out to the airport, which is where the customs office is, to have the contents of my packet inspected and pay the duty. That is why I avoid ordering things from outside the EU. So sadly, anything I used to order from the UK, I will now try to order from a country within the customs union.
I am retired now, I live in Ireland. Had things been different, I would invite this gentleman to either relocate, or form a strategic partnership in a country where access to the European Single market is not restricted by either tariff or non tariff barriers.
Due to Brexit Britain is now equal to the USSR, Turkey or Morocco as a suitable location to serve the European Single Market.
Some will claim that the opportunity to develop markets in the Pacific region is compensation for the loss the European "home" market. Try explaining this to the small business owner!
I feel a lot of sympathy for anyone running a small business these days, but to say that 'I don't think anyone was aware of the real consequences of Brexit' is just plain wrong - many of us were, many of us warned of those consequences, and the Sheeple voted for it regardless. Europe warned us time and time that this would be economic suicide. Brexit goes against common sense and sanity, and we're going to suffer the consequences for at least a generation. The government can only pretend that the state of this country is due soley to covid for so long...
Also, the charges are neither "unexpected" not something which shouldn't have happened to a third country.
The Brexiters forgott that GB is no longer an empire. It’s an isolated island. For sure it stopped the imigrant flow across your borders. All prices has fallen and the services has improved. Not.
That was a video with convinced Tory and Brexit voter that didn’t do his homework. The charges he talks about is for all third countries, what’s so hard to understand.
Well, if he started in 1974, then he never experienced trading outside the EU.
He is complaining about things that all non-EU countries have to deal with.
The exists EU to make life easy for its members. What he is complaining about is the default, the big advantage of the EU Single Market is that you don't have to worry about these things.
He is saying that people were not aware. That is BS. HE might not have been aware, but then he put his head in the sand and that is just poor business practice.
That dastardly EU!! How dare they still have a single market when I already left!
"I don't think anybody was really aware of the consequences the real consequences of Brexit" - a classic line from somebody who voted Brexit. "I thought it won't be bad for myself" is what it means.
Brexit means we regain our sovereignty
@@freeplex589 And 'sovereighty' just means the mechanism by which the elites exercise control over the rest of us. It means they can exploit us more freely.
@@BrianMcGuirkBMG the people elected them unlike the eu commission
@@ilovenodisygo4744 in England we elect our mps, unlike the eu commission
@@freeplex589 People elected MEPs and the UK created most of the rules in the EU for non-members. The extreme brexit Tories don't care about the UK population. But that's old news and well established.
I'll see your EU commission appointed democratically by MEPs and raise you Lord Gormless, Dominic Cummings and the entire House of Lords.
The worst is that brexiters were persuaded that they would continue to have benefits of being in the EU after they left.
... and you believed it.
Still waiting for you to explain a single benefit... just one...
Two years into full blown brexit and you can't name one. The lies are all around.
I am a Brit living in Spain and I recently ordered an item worth €40 from the UK. Nearly 3 weeks later and after paying a total of €45 _more_ in VAT, handling, manipulation and then VAT on the handling and manipulation and having to fill in two separate forms in Spanish and upload them to the Internet I have decided that I will never buy from the UK again.
Good for you, why don’t you hand your passport back too and be done with us properly chap?
Good luck in the long run now Spain Doesn’t have the Uk funding their latest debt crisis.
Did he vote for Brexit???. His country decided to leave the club. This is self-inflicted.
I appreciate your decency of not having asked that honest gentleman what his vote was in 2016.
I´d hate to see him embarassed over his own decision.
I guess he´d have answered something on the lines of "not the Brexit I voted for".
He's clever enough and linked to Europe enough that we can't assume.
most brexiters were lied to with promises that have yet to been delivered. Not to mention a lot of leavers didn't actually know what leaving the EU will do to bills and they just wanted immigrants out
His wording related to those duties gave him away as a leave voter. What he got was the return of his own action. He was warned. Over and over again.
Seeing the gentleman didn’t say which way he voted, how do YOU know his own decision?
@@ZZ-ek7mx He's an obvious prick so he voted Tory and brexit.
First you voted conservative then you vote brexit and then you vote for Johnson . You made your bed lie in it
I didn’t on all 3 accounts! I have the right to be pissed! I knew what was coming! I didn’t vote for it at all! AND THE WORST RESULT WITH THE WORST CREW NEGOTIATING THE DEAL HAS LEFT US ALL SCREWED!
About a year after Brexit, I had a work colleague come out as a Leave voter during a chat over a few pints. Mood changed.... I asked him why he voted that way. He said, "I did it for the economy." I gave him both barrels. Funny thing was, at the time, he was an EFL (English as a Foreign Language) teacher, teaching English to foreign students in the UK. He soon found out he'd more or less voted himself out of a job. This is just one example of how little people knew about Brexit and its effects. To lack that much foresight and vote yourself out of work? Beggars belief. What did the Leave voters think was going to happen? Now, of course, it's not their fault things are turning to shit. I would love to be proved wrong, but I think leaving the EU will haunt us for decades. And, yes, I know we were quicker out the blocks on vaccinations, but this shouldn't be the only way we measure our success as a nation. Bloody shambles!
🤨 i worked in fedex 7 years ago, in Sweden. Tariffs and VAT has always been something you have to pay when buying from outside of the EU.
And you were told, you just get your information from the wrong place.
Why is he taking about duties which shouldn't have been charged? This is post Brexit, right?
Edit, I now got to 4:14 and have another question. How can he say that no one was aware of these consequences?
Remainers did indicate the consequences of leaving the common market. I was aware, and I wasn't even eligible to vote in that referendum.
I mean... I really like that man and I feel for him. But how can anyone not have been aware? Seriously?
It's propably related to the activation of the rules of origin on January 1st. The stuff he is making is made from material like silk, leather, etc., raw materials, that are not made in the UK, but propably in Asia. Everything that originates in the UK will only be charged with VAT/import duties and higher shipping costs according to our trade agreement, but something made of silk from Asia will also be charged with import tariffs on that material now. If his raw materials really originates in the Uk, which I doubt, than he has correctly declare them as such and he would not have to suffer through this. If he declares them as being made in India for example or doesn't bother to declare them at all, tariffs will kick in.
@@dnocturn84 he mentions £98 of charges on a £5-600 order. That is just German VAT.
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 Yeah, that's totally normal even if you shop inside the EU
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 I didn't pay attention to mentioned numbers. But yes, if your numbers are correct, then it sounds very much like the normal German VAT. Everybody has to pay that for shopping outside of the customs union, of course. He should know this, especially, when his sales to the EU were that important for him. This is being correctly charged for more than a year now, since the UK left and should affect every shipment to the EU, corresponding to local VAT of the destination country. He is somewhat crazy, if he really calls those incorrect charges. I'm actually quite surprised, if he was really talking about the normal VAT...
I haven't managed to sell anything to Europe for over a year and a half...that's one third of my small business disappeared over night.
This man never had to "export" anything, the single market removed all barriers and treated his customers in germany the same as the ones in London. Now, maybe for the first time, he has to deal with the dreaded incoterms and realises that international commerce is for the big players, none of this "serving directly to the end customer". Anybody with real experience in international commerce knew this would happen
The solution is to open a business within the EU and ship in bulk for distribution, or take the hit or stop selling into the EU
Welcome to the Brexit sir, sorry!
Quite right but only if this merchandise originates from outside of the EU (like most items do).
Not so easy if they are made in the U.K. but my money is on imported as green and purple umbrellas and alike are not normally made in the U.K.
The advantage would be not having to fill paperwork for hundreds of individual shipments, just one per consignment, same with VAT and tariffs.... and also avoiding the need for the end customer to pay anything or fill any paperwork themselves. Brexiteers always focused on tariffs and never considered the impact of non tariff barriers, that's what is killing this guy's business, the "6 pages long document... in german" (or french, or Italian , or polish...)
Again, I agree with you.
Could I also add that warehouse space and labour costs would be cheeper in many other EU member states.
'That's what's killing this guys business'
No, I disagree with you there...
I think that it is;
This guy is killing this business.
* He has had over 5 years of warning.
* He is being reactive and not proactive.
* He still seems to have a - I was not meant to be lucky - or - it was fait - approach.
Unless I am wrong and this video is just made for entertainment as I am not totally convinced it is as presented.
@@jocelynstephens7058 he did say that it was a mistake regarding the vat so i believe its actually uk goods. However good luck prooving that since shipping companies could give less fucks about anything as per usual.
Regarding opening in the eu wasnt that what the uk government told their businesses to do for a bit :D?
@Joakim, not sure on both.
I thought that he was referring to German VAT (or equivalent).
If it was what the U.K. Government was prescribing (opening in the EU) then it would seem that he successfully ignored that one as well.
A brilliant tale of a business owner who discovers the benefits of being in the EU. Sadly it took for most UK people Brexit to be done (not yet finished) to start understanding all the consequences of Brexit. Now, I observe it is much easier and cheaper for an EU person to purchase from China than from the UK. Why? Because while all other countries (in the EU or outside, including the USA, China, Japan,...) make a point in converging and signing agreements, the UK did all it could (JUST FOR FUN: Like the UKCA, termination of Erasmus, termination of Entertainment industry agreements) to deviate and have sour relations with the EU. Mission accomplished. Sour relations and going towards no trade.
In many countries there would be demonstrations against this, but the apathy of the UK people is beyond me.
Notice how we hear no more talk of 'setting our own product rules' from those wanting to leave. The pain has only just begun. Still wondering what Parliament has not been stormed by angry voters feeling betrayed.
I remember the EEC a trading bloc and it worked well until it morphed into a a power grab - that’s what most people are against! Bring back the EEC. They have alliances like this in Asia but all the countries keep their sovereignty.
@@junehitchcock170 June, the UK joined the EEC turning a blind eyes on the European project (ever growing political convergence). When you join a club, do you change its rules in total indifference of the rest of us 90% of citizens? Your statement is just like Brexit: I am not sure what I voted for but for sure the EU will bend to our requests or explode.
@@junehitchcock170 I bet you could not describe in practical terms what sovereignty means. I will start with a small hint: it is the freedom of the ruling class to do whatever they want with the public money without having to answer to no-one, such as give £million contracts to their inexperienced buddies. Please, tell me honestly that you think sovereignty has anything to do with the common man.
@@antoniocruz8083 I wouldn’t know as I am not a common man 🤣 I bow to your intellect
As a Labour voter and Remainer I was deeply disappointed to hear Starmer say recently that joining the customs union and single market were not on the cards. So not even a Norway/Iceland option. Feel like banging my head against the wall.
Starmer is Tory light. And not even that light...
@@danfrake I really hope you miss heard this? For this is the light at the end of the tunnel,
Well, I'd reckon that's because rejoining the EU so soon after leaving would be incredibly difficult.
Especially when anti-EU sentiments are omnipresent amongst some politicians and a great part of the British population.
Very sad. Brexit will be ‘death by a thousand cuts’ for so much of the UK economy, particularly the SMEs who lack the resources of the big enterprises.
Precisely. I think of lot of people who deeply opposed Brexit, or at least were hoping for continued membership of the Single Market, are hoping for some big shock that will get people to wake up to the fact that they were conned.
But sadly your analogy will probably play out.... fishing communities, farmers, small businesses, the education sector, the entertainment sector will see a steady, painful decline in their respective corners until, one day, people will perhaps put the pieces together.
In other words, this will get far worse before the decline can even be halted. As for a recovery, it'll probably take a generation.
Hmm, this owner doesn't understand third-country customs duty. Head in the sand, before Brexit.
how does he get the sand up his arse?
considering his age, he has to remember the time before EU!
@@mgsp5871 He wasn't in business then. He started his business after the UK was already a member ....
PS: I have it on good authority he is actually only 45 years old, this post Brexit kerfuffle has taken its toll. :)
UK was one of states which made 3rd country import rules in EU. and now UK feels their own rules applied to them when they became 3rd country. There is nothing unexpected, a lot of poeple said that will happen
Why does he keep going on about what he calls unnecessarily duties? It’s called import tax based on the value of goods (you have stated) that may include shipping costs. He knows when the UK was in the EU shipping to other EU states was easier and often with no fees. I ship goods myself not on a huge scale and orders from Europe have pretty much dried up. Thanks Brexit.
some of the product may be subject to WTO tariff rates of 6.5% upwards iN addition to customs handling charges and VAT on top at local rates
And rules of origin.
the brexit deal does give some leniency on items of uk origin. He is probably annoyed that the shipping company didnt give a fuck and slapped duties on goods that shouldnt have em. Or he filled out the paperwork badly or the government program to help with paperwork is shit or any other possible explanation.
There was probably more discretion before but if he says his average order is £500/£600 and declares plus shipping I really don’t see how he or the customer can complain. My ex lives in Switzerland and if i send her anything over a certain amount including shipping she will be liable ( I can remember the amount but it is less than £40) I sure he states on his website that customers maybe liable for taxes and if he doesn’t he bloody needs to. Long before Brexit the amount of people i know that used to buy vintage trainers from aboard and then get hit with charges was quite large. Now that alot of shipping is electronic ie you upload the full details you’re stuffed. He could always ‘mark down’ the value but that would maybe be illegal and stuff his possible claims for any loss if it happened.
@@sageslarres items of uk origin are completely tarrif free. That is what the free trade agreement is all about.
But that does not exempt these goods from vat and other domestic taxes.
Those things fall under wto customs arangements and have nothing to do with trade agreements.
That is why the single market (trade deals) and customs union (wto customs rules) are 2 different things.
I think Boris said something about British businesses. Hmm what was it again? Ah I remember now!
I think businesses are now saying the same about him - only he'll come out of it better.
This is the face of a man who slowly realises that, maybe, unicorns don‘t exist. It must come as quite a shock to the poor gentleman.
UK never understands, it's "give and take" now. You can't just "take" like it did for centuries.
Pre Brexit he could have filled the car boot and driven to Germany and back in a day or two to deliver them; Post Brexit you can't even drive in the EU without a Green Card. There is a special place in Hell for those who voted Brexit
It's the part of hell where you'll have to sign an eternity of custom forms just to get in.
It is called, living in post Brexit UK...
Hell is already here. Popcorn, anyone?
ALL local shops went under years ago... In the US, the EU, and England.... GLOBALLY. This mans story is pinned to brexit by manipulators. Its amazon and shopping algorythms you should blame. Ad campaigns and mega franchises.
@JJ LongeMann It's clos,e isn't it? My towns here in denmark have lost bakeries, butchers, post offices, banks, schools, bike shops, corner stores.... Now your small towns are LUCKY to have a chain grocery store, and a bus stop... Yes, local bussiness is DEAD, we aLL see it, in EVERY country.... You can just look up the employment numbers, and see where the JOBS are.... Has NOTHING to do with brexit.
I live in Germany and I've stopped ordering products from the UK, I'll have to pay about 20% duty on my order at my front door to the delivery company, so I only order from mainland Europe now, Brexit is not working like they thought it would eh?
*I don't think anyone was really aware of the consequences of Brexit*
Anyone who says this deserves to lose their business.
Anybody who'd ever worked with shipping should have known.
Wdym its true. During the referendum everything said was a lie or a guess and noone was informed on how devastating financially it would be. And the guy probs didnt vote leave anyway so how does he deserve to lose his business?
Tbf he's right. No one knew what the consequences would be. I'd argue that's a good enough reason to vote remain.
Literally EVERY EU NATION warned them. I had my semester abroad in the UK just a year after the Brexit vote and I was dragged into some "Brexit talk" by some of those delusional students at the Politics Society of my guest uni and they couldn't or wouldn't understand the consequences of this whole selfmade BS. They had all the info they needed, they decided to ignore them or try to label them as "exaggeration" etc.
@@poohbear4821 Deserve has nothing to do with it. Sometimes you can do everything right, but still get crushed by the tide. There is no cosmic justice.
"I don't think anyone considered the serious consequences" he says. Plenty of us did but people didn't want to hear it. As we were then so often told, "leave won, get over it"
"Project fear"
Britain, the only country to impose economic sanctions on itself 😂
I voted against Brexit, I told everyone I knew to do the same, I marched the streets of London as part of the People's Vote protests multiple times against Brexit and I got labelled incessantly over the years with ridiculous and offensive titles for calling Brexit out for what it was and now were here and I'm not happy to see everything I expected of Brexit coming true. It's no longer a matter of who voted what but of what every person is losing as part of Brexit these days.
and what did you expect of "your" Brexit?
@@LednacekZ I was a Remain voter, I didn't want Brexit, as in, at all. Did you read my comment?
Utter Bollocks!
@@LednacekZ It's not our brexit. It's a scam.
didnt mean you exactly, but you britain
I don’t know what he’s talking about saying import duties that shouldn’t have been applied , of course this import duties and VAT .
Not having to deal with that was the advantage of being in the EU what do you expect ?
This movie is silly propaganda. All nations have lost our local bussines, our bike shops and our bakeries... Over the past 20 years.... Everything is streamlined now, centralized... Sold on amazon, made in china, advertised on face book.... Delivered to your door.
I think the rest of the world was well aware of the consequences, even as outsiders looking in. The fact he thinks paying customs is unjust just shows how extremely good it was to be part of the EU.
'There is a special place in hell for those who embarked on Brexshit without a sketch of a plan.
"I don't think anyone was really aware of what the real consequences would be".
Yes they did. I know a high-up civil servant quite well, who told me a week after the referendum (on one of my last visits to the UK), "This is going to cost an absolute fortune and will still be a disaster". But, why would anyone have listened to an expert, when people who still remain revered today promised everyone in the country a £5 a week bonus (i.e. a total of £350m per week) indefinitely?
Farage, Johnson, Gove, Rees-Smog, Duncan-Smith ..... they should all be on trial for treason. Instead, they've all still got cushy jobs and the Mail still worships all of them. Remember that a country gets the government it deserves. Sorry.
"The people of this country have had enough of experts..." Dixit Gove... No further comment is needed.
If you vote for idiots, you are well represented
@@Cashdummy Unfortunatly, this man and his business and other small business's like it, were collateral damage, sacrificed at the alter of Brexit. The great desire to take back control, close all borders, expel unworthy immigrants, make our own trade deals, has run rampant and roughshod through the small business sector, leaving financial destruction and collapse in it's wake. Those who warned of this, were dismissed and scorned at. Brexit will get done, come hell or high water, the brexiteers proclaimed. Maybe now, they are having second thoughts, as the hell and high water seems to be coming down the tracks.
@@louis-philippearnhem6959 they aren’t experts they are chancers?
Yeah... my wife used to buy a lot of English/Welsh yarn. Let's say she buys a lot of Dutch and Czech yarn now.
She did it with a heavy heart... she loved those little handwritten thankyou-for-your-business notes, paying a Euro or so more per strand who cared?!
But yeah... Brittain is now outside the custom-union. It's just a pain buying something, so we don't do it anymore.
Duties that 'should not have been charged'? How can someone in Britain who's main market is in the EU be wholy ignorent of import charges to countries outside of the EU? These charges are not new. Even if he didn't vote for Brexit, he's had since 2016 to prepare his business for the worst case. All of this was avoidable if he got the paperwork correct (rules of origin).
I wouldn't be surprised if the UK was one of the members voting for those very charges when they were inside the club. Morons.
Wrong. How was he supposed to prepare his business? You sound like a Tory Minister who has no earthly idea what they are talking about. Describe the path this man needed to take to save his one man band shop, selling trad British gear to Europeans... Please, I am all ears.
@@rorykeegan1895 Sure.
By late 2017 it was obvious were we headed for a hard Brexit as a result of May's 'red lines'. That meant no single market access.
Any competent businessman would plan for that contingency by looking into the fees and charges imposed on 3rd country exporters to the EU, as a worst case.
We left the EU in early 2020 but there was still a one-year transition period for businesses to adapt to the new rules. Any competent business that was so dependent on EU access would have moved distribution to the EU at that point, either on the continent, Ireland or Northern Ireland (which retained single market access as part of the withdrawal agreement - this was known in 2019).
So this business owner seems to have done nothing to prepare and is now surprised the customs procedures common to every other country outside of the bloc for literally decades were suddenly applied to his business.
It was his job to know this, not the governments.
I'm guessing a Conservative and Brexit voter? But yes, many, many people saw this coming. It's not a shock or a surprise. Roll on Scottish Independence. There's an idea. How about he moves north, votes SNP and Indy and in a little while his business might be back to the way it was!
The best way to get independence is let the English vote on it, I can guarantee you would get your wish. Then the EU won't have you because Scotland brings nothing to the table.
It was the Scottish independence movement who coined the phrase project fear to describe the predicated damage that a yes vote would cause. I've never heard a convincing argument in favour of independence that wasn't centered around sovereignty and that contained any coherent economic policy beyond....er oil or wind or something?
HOw does having a customs boarder with your biggest customer work for Scotland. Assuming the EU let you in then you would lose most of your small businesses and a lot besides. This would be even more stupid than the UK leaving the EO trading block.
At this point,i would absolutely try that. If he does not make any moves, he will definitely lose his business.
Yeah, good luck with independence. You won't be keeping the pound, and you won't be admitted into the EU. I'm sure your insane socialist leader Chairwoman Krankie will have a backup plan, though.
That‘s why true free trade requires a legal framework that makes it enforceable. Now Britain has excluded itself from it.
Outside of the single market, third country rules apply. It's surprising that many in business didn't check before voting. I feel for the small business that understood this but has to deal with the consequences.
In all fairness not one leading Brexiteer suggested in the run up to the Referendum that they were all for leaving the Single Market & The Customs Union. Only ERG swivel eyed loonies ever even suggested it was on the cards.
@@rorykeegan1895 But it became a possible option thanks to May taking an advisory vote as a Get It Done Now vote.
@@rorykeegan1895 The four freedoms in EU are not negociable. How you will get your imaginary sovereignty back if you don't leave the single market & custom union. If you don't do that your sovereignty is even less than inside EU... also you can't stop polish people or whatever people from EU you guys don't like, since freedom of movement is one of the four freedoms.
This is what happens when you ('we', i'm in the UK) leave the EU and become a ''Third Country''', ironically the UK helped develop & codify those rules. 🙃
I really hope you’re proud of yourselves Brexiters.
he blames DHL "for a mistake you have made" ? Nope - this payment is down to being a third country NOT down do DHL - and he should have found out about that BEFORE shipping!
‘Nothing will change’, ‘we have all the cards’, ‘the German car industry will force a deal’. All lies spat out by our current pathetic excuse of a government. Makes me so mad.
yes UK have all the card but the EU and the rest of the planet is playing chess.
It was obvious what happend after Brexit. Greetings from Poland.
Mogg looks at this... Look at all those happy belts and umbrellas!
Right. All those fine and proud British belts that are saved from being strapped around nasty EU waists.
I'm very sorry for this man and all small businesses in GB that can't sell to the EU as easily as they used to, but there were many people pointing out these issues, however the Tory government and the rest of the brexiteers called them remoaners and labeled their predictions as Project Fear. Turns out it was Project Uncomfortable Truth!
Brexit is still worth it
@@freeplex589 Can you explain why? I am asking this of you honestly.
@@jewulo we can control borders
@@freeplex589 Strange, then-that you now have less control than ever.
@@torehaaland6921 we now have a point system
Don't want to be a killjoy, we were told this would happen and we're in Australia. So there is no way a long term business owner in Britain could honestly say -we didn't know about extra costs involved when dealing with Europe after we leave the E.U.
Dear people from the UK, at the minute 3.33 you can hear the real problem of this hole situation; you have been selling your articles to Europe, you have been talking to people in Europe, but you never ever felt like you have been Europeans too. This is what I learned from a visit in your country and heard it in every discussion I have had, I am really sorry for this and was surprised also. Sorry buddies