Non-Gamer Watches #26 WORLD OF WARCRAFT || Warbringers Jaina & Azshara
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Also fun fact: Laura Bailey has been the Voice of Jaina forever and she did sing her own song!
Oh cool!
@@HannaHsOverInvested Laura also gave an incredible live performance of it at Blizzcon in 2018
@watashi turns out I'm just wrong about a bunch of things. Thanks for letting us know!
@@TimdeVisser86 I just want to commend you for being civil, lord knows how people get triggered on the internet when they are corrected...take my like xD
@@HondEpic listen, I know and I agree.
"You went from a god to a fish?"
Wrathion liked that.
I can actually see how if someone knew nothing about either character, they might draw the assumption that Jaina nuked Azshara. Heh.
I chuckled ngl lol
To be fair , Jaina did tried to "nuke" a city by using a tsunami. Good thing Thrall stopped her. Though that happened thousand of years after Azshara's fall.
@@remliqa it wasn't thrall who stopped her, it was kalec. Thrall was just protecting org the best he could
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Thanks for correcting me.
@@remliqa np, im a lore nerd and know *way* to much
Jaina and Azshara are the most powerful female mage characters in this world. It wasn't Jaina that caused that giant tsunami tough, that happened around 10,000 years ago, in a event called The Great Sundering.
The deal that Azshara mentioned was a deal she had made with demons in return for more power, wich in the end ultimately ended almost literally breaking the world apart, it caused a BIG catastrophe that swallowed lands whole and destroyed many others, that's what caused that tsunami we see at the begining. Her greed was partially the cause of that, but then she meets that being (it's called a Old God, they're based on the Lovecraft mythos of Cthulhu) wich was imprisioned under the sea and he offered her that deal, wich allowed her and her people to live, but it turned them into horrific monstrosities called the Naga.
Regarding Jaina, her movie and song basically tells about how she betrayed her father and abandoned him in a battle, wich caused him to die. He was a warmonger that only tought of war with The Horde and Jaina had made friends on the Horde and they were trying to reach peace, so she decided to stop fighting. This is her coming to terms with her past decisions and asking her father for forgiveness, that was his boat that she raised form the bottom of the sea and all those ghosts and spirits were sailors lost in those fights.
Okay! Thank you for the info!
@@HannaHsOverInvested There is also Alodi, Aegwynn, and Medvih
Medivh's mom is stronger than both of them actually.
Wouldn't actually say that Daelin Proudmoore was a warmonger, it's just that he hates the orcs because of the 1st and 2nd War, watching them pillage, plunder Stormwind and murder everyone who couldn't escape on time.
@@frenchbread952 Yeah totally aegwynn was the most powerful mage on azeroth, far more powerful than jaina or azshara ^^
"The fish can die girl, don't worry about the fish." Is so painfully hilarious and iconic when you look at all of BFA
12:14 LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So glad you watched the Jaina short. That song is just a lovely sea shanty, even if you don't understand the exact story.
Yes. It was very good.
@@HannaHsOverInvested the lyrics of the song actually do tell a story- obviously helps if youre familiar with it but in the song she sings about standing aside as the king (Daelin Proudmoore) Jaina's dad is killed
Azhara : the most powerful witch
Hannah : oh, she is a squid, haha!
"You went from a God to a fish?" Was one of the funniest fucking things I've heard all week. Subscribed.
9:05 -- What's a queen to a fish? What's a fish to a god? What's a god to a nonbeliever? No church in the wild.
Hahahhaha
tfs reference?
@@nurkoleptik_art he said the reference in the comment
No church in the wild
Jaina was the original "Be friends Instead". She as an alliance member worked/defended the horde, helped free them from interment camps and help them sail across the ocean to a new land for them to call home, this song pretty much goes over how despite her father telling her that the horde were monsters she turned her back on her kingdom, and the horde defended themselves/killed her father.
Throughout WoW, Jaina was very much the horde and alliance need to work together to fight off the bigger evils and create peace, right up until the new horde warchief, Garrosh (You might get to him eventually, he's also one of the orcs in the Warlords of Draenor cinematic), magic-nuked her city Theramore. This kind of caused her to go crazy, turned her back on the horde and the alliance because they didn't want to just start nuking things too.
She now realizes that her father may have been right all along, hence the line "I'm listening now father", and raised the flagship of her old kingdom and going to get her old kingdom in on the war, ready to fight.
There's of course a little more to it than that, but Jaina's arc is one of the longest in the series, and possibly one of the most important ones as she is tied to the Lich King as well, and Arthas' fall into evil.
4:55 Jaina Proudmoor is Warcraft's most powerful human mage. She used to be Arthas's girlfriend before he became the undead guy with the blue glowing sword. After that, she traveled to the Western Continent of Kalimdor to eventually strike an alliance with the orcish leader Thrall. They had a common enemy: demons were trying to burn down the world tree.
So while Thrall and Jaina were good people, Jaina's father Admiral Proudmoor hated orcs and another orc leader called Hellscream hated humans because of an earlier war and internment camps. They attacked each other, and for the sake of their alliance, Jaina would not intervene to save her father. Because she wanted to be friends instead!
This guilt haunted her, even though they did save the world from demons. Evidently her father's sailors wrote a sea shanty about these events and she is not well liked by her own people. This makes the inciting incident of this trailer all the more tragic. Thrall is no longer leading his nation, and his replacement at the time of this trailer is Sylvanas/Eyebrows. And she burned the world tree that Jaina sacrificed her father to protect. So now it seems like all she did is in vain. This is why the faces of her ancestors were judging her in the clouds, why the ghost of her father was bringing her to dredge up his old warship to wage war on Sylvanas' horde. It's like he's saying 'I told you not to trust the Horde'. And in the trailer, that's all driving her to vengeance.
Edit: turns out I was wrong about a lot details. Check the comments below.
Oh I seeeeeee. Okay! Thank you!
"Jaina Proudmoor is Warcraft's most powerful human mage" Now I don't mean to be that guy... But Khadgar is still out there...
@@raziel6304 fine, she the most powerful human sorceress.
@@HannaHsOverInvested There's also an element that the Horde destroyed a kingdom she founded for people evacuated from a previous war. Let's just say that the woman has been through a lot.
Not sure if I'd call Jaina a good person. lol
More than 2 years after Warbringers: Jaina and it still is my favorite WoW cinematic. The chills I get every time I listen to it. An insanelly good song.
When you have no idea about the story or the characters, and you still get goosebumps - testament to the talents of the creative team at Blizzard. Thank you for doing this.
100% it's so good.
Nobbel87 has videos on lots of Warcraft characters where he narrates their histories. He splices footage from the games with other media to provide visuals. They're very in-depth, though. Other channels probably have more summarized versions of these stories.
Don't think there's many by Blizzard themselves that would do the job at explaining backstories, except maybe footage from the games themselves (dialogs, cutscenes, etc).
I'm gonna have to do his videos. So many people have asked for it.
@@HannaHsOverInvested he's made a ton, and many are kinda long, but I'm sure any questions you have can be answered there.
There's also Villains Corner by Hirumaredx, where he covers some of the villains' stories in ~10 min videos with some cool sketches, if you're interested.
@@ACarlosA thanks!
@@HannaHsOverInvested Hours of lore content on his channel and well narrated.
Don't know if he's too busy now that we are about a month away from a new expansion to the game.
You could try and reach out to him, to make sure you get it all in the right order.
Also, only 36 days to Lochlans return! 👀👀👀
@@HannaHsOverInvested platinum wow has also some really good videos explaining parts of the lore. For example the history of the trollempires and the origins of their race. As well as a sorta overview of the intire history starting on the planets creation and the elemental lords, to them being overtaken by the old gods and their black empire, to the intervention of the titans and how all that finally created the way for the mortal races and how parts of that still affects them today
I'm a simple person, I see Hannah uploads a new video, I immediately click, and as always, not disappointed
Thank youuuuuuu!!!
For the first cinematic: Jaina is the princess of an island kingdom called Kul'tiras. Her father fought the Orcs when they first appeared in Azeroth back when they were corrupted by the Demons and lost one of Jaina's two brothers at their hands.
Two wars go by, the Orcs lose the Second war and are put in "Internment camps" where they start regaining conciousness, and Thrall (the other orc guy that is with Saurfang) liberates them, during this, Jaina and Arthas (the guy who will become the Lich King, they were lovers) investigate the plague of undeath that will culminate with Arthas falling to the dark side, Arthas' kingdom destroyed by his own hands and Jaina and Thrall being led by Medivh (the guy responsible for bringing the Orcs in the first place, was also possessed by Demons) west, to Kalimdor, there Thrall and Jaina become friends basically agree to not attack each other while they settle these new lands. But Jaina's father followed her west out of worry since you know as far as he knew Jaina could be dead or worse, and when he reaches Kalimdor he sees all these Orcs settled and thriving in this new land and he goes into a panic, since all he ever knew of the Orcs was the bloodthirsty demon corrupted ones. So he starts attacking them, ignoring Jaina's pleads and it ends with Thrall's hands being forced and his champion Rexxar killing Jaina's father, the big deal here is that Jaina "stood aside" and let her father be murdered.
There's a lot of more stuff that happens later which brought a lot of people to justify what Jaina's father did, but that's not too important in the context of this cinematic.
For the second cinematic: This happens 10000 years back in the past when Azshara, queen of the Night elves, and absolute ruler of most of the world during the time, struck a deal with the same Demons that would later corrupt the Orcs, basically she was willing to sacrifice the world in exchange for power, but Tyrande and Malfurion (current leader of the Night Elves) cause a rebellion and manage to stop the demons complete arrival to the world, this however, ends up causing an explosion in the Well of Eternity (A magical lake in the center of the world, and main source of power for all Night Elves) and tearing apart the world, the giant tsunami swallowing the city is one of many results of this explosion. The god which saves her is called an Old God, think something like Cthulhu. Basically she struck deals with two different kinds of devils, failed the first time, succeeded in the second.
Thank you!!
I think for the first one you have to add that Jaina ordered her man to stand down and gave the orcs information over her citys defenses, in exchage the civilians and Jainas man were unharmed and the city stayed mostly intact.
Jaina safed a lot of lifes on both sides that day. Especially since the horde probably would've won even if she stood with her dad, but with far more dead on both sides.
But of course her family and her old kingdom didn't see it that way, they only saw her betrail.
Also if Jaina had aided her father it would have dragged the Alliance into another full scale war with the Horde. And as she knew Thrall wanted peace she so saw it as an unjustifiable and unprovoked attack.
Jaina isn't a princess. Kul'Tiras is mostly a democracy with the Lord Admiral being in charge. Its a sea fairing democracy where people can vote into power a new Admiral if they lose faith in the current one.
Jaina is my favorite character in Warcraft. Some would label her as crazy, but the things she's been through, the tragedy, the constant betrayal, would make anyone a little nuts. But she's a well written, well rounded character. A bit of info about the song. 'Daughter of the sea' was the nickname her father gave her as a child. The tune to the song is the same tune of a song he used to sing to her:
"Ahoy, ahoy, sweet daughter of the sea
Ahoy, this child be mine.
The admiral's girl
his whole entire world
for as long, as stars do shine"
Jaina's story is so tragic,it really touches the heart.Also,Laura Bailey(Jaina's VA) is the f'n best.I love her work in other video games aswell and ofc Critcal Role.
I cant wait to learn more about her!
@@HannaHsOverInvested Laura Bailey is a darling of the internet lol. Everyone in the nerd-sphere adores her. She's incredibly talented funny!
"did daughter of the sea do that" LOL i chuckled . no this is at diffrent time.
6:55 Nah, this happens thousands of years before the events of the first Warcraft game. Sea elves became like merfolk called the Naga by allying with a C'thulu-like old god when their civilization was wiped out by... I'm sure somebody will tell you.
oh... okay. haha good. I like daughter of the sea.
@@HannaHsOverInvested Knew you would. She's always wanted to be friends instead!
@@TimdeVisser86 a girl after my own heart!
"The eyebrows" that was a good insult to horde, I love it
React to Nobbel! He has everything from the beginning of the WoW universe to what is still in beta mode right now. He is usually really cool about people reacting to his videos, and his voice is something else lol. Seriously if you want to full story check his videos out there are a well over a hundred(and im lowballing it) of just pure lore videos. He can recommend what videos to watch to get the quickest and most in-depth info for a reaction video, ask him! This is the way. You will react to Nobbel... (Kenobi hand motion).
Lots of people have said this. hahaha and maybe your Jedi mind trick will work.
@@HannaHsOverInvested 😁
Warbringers: Jaina is legitimately one of my favorite pieces of promotional material for any game ever. I adore it.
The daughter of the sea is the culmination of 20 years of story telling that started in Warcraft 3, one of the most emotionally tragic thing i ever saw. but for someone who don't know the story it can be hard to understand since it is so long, to know more you must find a fan made recap of Jaina story or play 2 game(Warcraft 3 and world of warcraft).
Yes! I will be doing some lore deep diving soon I think!
Poor Jaina. That video always gets me.
If you're looking for lore videos, I'd suggest looking at a channel called Nobbel87 or The Lost Codex. Those are two of the bigger lore channels for the game that I'm aware of.
Yes, I reached out to Nobbel.
You do well watching these videos. The Azshara video plays in the past when the "sundering" happened. In short, it split the main continent apart and it cames with its own tsunamis. Azshara is one of the mightiest sorceress alive with no one comparable (she withhold the waves on her own!). In WoW she is a recurring mythos and villain.
It's hard to get into the WoW-lore. Your best start is just to consume as much as possible and piece the stuff together.
I am trying! haha I hope its fun to watch!
The events depicted in those two videos are ten thousand years apart. Warcraft lore is bonkers and only getting more bonkers :)
hahahahaha bonkers indeed...
"Don't worry about the fish"! One should be very worried about the fish... they know all the secrets.
I was waiting for this! Warbringers: Jaina is my absolute favourite!
She pretty cool!
everytime she says eyebrows I actually have to think about who shes talking about cuz every elf has long eye brows lmao
Lat, but the short version of Jaina's story is that despite all she lost and sacrificed in the name of peace (including leaving her father to die), wars kept raging on. And she is done playing nice, since all it brings is guilt and loss.
Love jaina a lot. She is just badass, and this sea shanty is amazing
The original Warcraft Game Manual back in the 90s had game manual with a short story explaining lore. And it just grew and grew over more then 20 years.
I love Laura Bailey's voice acting, but this was the first time I heard her sing, and the ice cream in my bowl literally melted in my bowl because I had to watch and listen to the entire trailer.
she sang it live at blizzcon last year i think, it was just as awesome.
Nobbel has a 3-part series on Jaina. She's one of the deepest characters in the lore so there's a lot to cover, but he goes through at a pace that you can really understand everything.
I talk about why I wont be watching his stuff at the start of my Pandaria video.
thé warcraft lore in 23 minutes video is definitely more of a recap for players than a video to watch if you’re new but it could be fun for you to watch
Yees finally! Two of the best videos blizzard ever did for warcraft and your reaction was interesting to watch :)
Thank you!!
I am one of many people that are gonna provide character TL;DR s
Jaina (correctly pronounced in your second try):
Jaina is involved in many important events of Warcraft's recent history, but what you need to know is that she is a super-powerful mage who wanted a peaceful co-existence between Alliance and Horde since she had fought with the Horde in the past and their, then, leader Thrall (who also wanted peace). She served as an ambassador between factions for years setting up her own settlement near Horde lands.
When Jaina's dad (Daelin) heard his daughter had survived some pretty serious battles he went to find her, he also found the Horde. Believing the Horde would eventually betray and kill her, he ignored her wishes for peace with the Horde and proceeded to attack the newly settled Horde lands.
Jaina seeing her dad couldn't be reasoned with actually allowed the Horde leader and champion to kill her father. Her last words to him were "Father, why wouldn't you listen"
Her peace-loving attitude changed when many years Thrall went from bad-ass to a lil' bitch and left a young reckless Orc to lead the Horde called Garrosh (who did nothing wrong by the way). One thing lead to another a big war starts and Garrosh uses basically a nuclear bomb to wipe out Jaina's city, killing almost everyone including one of her best friend and her apprentice.
Blah blah peace between factions, then war, then again peace blah blah many things you dont care about and now we reach this cinematic.
After a self-imposed exile (sort of) Jaina revisits Theramore (her city) as seen at the start of the cinematic, finds her dad's old ship (the one she raised from the sea) and is returning to assist the alliance with yet another war against the Horde.
The sea-shanty (song) used to be what her father sang to her when she was little, but after Daelin's death her people (the Kul'Tirans) turned it to what you heard here - a song calling out Jaina as a traitor.
The only piece of dialogue you hear "I'm listening now father" is a callback to the line she said to her father when he died basically admitting she was wrong. (unfortunately this all gets negated since again Jaina chooses peace at the end)
Ashzara:
Ashzara as a Queen (also a super-powerful mage), turned the lands of the Night Elves to an empire which used the source of all magic of the planet called Well of Eternity to advance their society.
Now this Queen (or more like Empress) also became ridiculously prideful and her snob-ness even exceeded her power with magic. She thought herself a Godess as she was the strongest of her people and the most beautiful one too. In the books it also pointed out that many of her servants men and women are entranced by her beauty and by the magic which sort of mind-controls them.
Ok, now the part that should interest you more is that Miss Universe over there was contacted by the WoW version of Satan who promised her power over the whole planet, which she could then remake in her own image and she would serve as his Queen. The only thing she had to do was allow Satan and his army of demons to come in and wipe out all life on the planet.
She gladly accepted the offer and started the summoning ritual using the most elite and also snobby sorcerers of her Empire known as "The Highborne" .
Blah blah big war breaks out blah blah good guys have to stop summoning. In order to stop the summoning of Satan, the good guys have to blow up the Well of Eternity.... which they do, but the effect is so violent that the uniform mass that used to be Azeroth splits in two (refer to before-after maps in google images).
What you see at the start of the cinematic in the Warbringers video is the moment the WoE blows up and the ocean floods Ashazara's city along with many of her loyal Highborne.
Once the ocean consumes them Big-Tentacle boy named "N'zoth" shows up. I won't trouble you with more stuff about Mr.Hentai there since this is complicated enough already, but what you need to know is that Mr.Hentai and his crew - known as Old Gods - are inspired heavily by H.P. Lovecraft's mythos.
So Mrs.Universe strikes a new deal this time, with Mr.Hentai who transforms her and the Highborne to the snake-people you saw at the end referred to as Naga --> inspired by Hinduism and other religions
Sorry for exhausting you with info you don't care about xD
Jaina was actually one of the first real, playable female characters of the Warcraft games - I can't remember if Garona or Alleria Windrunner were ever playable in the first or second game, and if they were, it was only for 1 single mission - Jaina was the first, in Warcraft 3, with a proper storyline, character development, and impactful role in the overall narrative, and of course voice acted dialogue.
She also happened to hate violence, and prefer pacifism and diplomacy whenever possible.
I see people have already commented on Jaina here, but I'll say my two cents as well as Jaina Proudmoore is my favorite (Female) warcraft character. To make a long story very short as others have commented it: What makes her story so beautiful is that she used to be more or less a pacifist, avoiding conflict if she could, proclaiming that everyone should be friends instead. This attitude resulted in her father dying to the Horde because of his own prejudices, which she blamed herself for (as they sing in the song, she stood aside when he faced the enemy).
Much much later, a warmongering orc nuked the city she was ruling, which caused her to snap and become vengeful, warmongering and bitter, hating the Horde. (Here in this video she is singing a sea chanty her people made up about her being terrible, since they loved her father who was their admiral and king, without knowing the full context of what actually happened).
At the conclusion of the expansion that gave us that song you just heard, she forgives herself and stops blaming herself for all that has happened, and comes to prefer peace again, although no longer a pacifist and no longer hesitant to spring into action if need be, she tries to go with peace over war, as was -not- the case during the song, where she embraced the terrible song her people wrote about her, kind of a: "They want me to be terrible, I'll be terrible"-kinda vibe.
So what makes her story so great is that it shows you that even a pacifist can snap, become a terrible force to be reckoned with, but eventually find their way back to peace again. She's almost gone full circle.
As someone who dragged a non-gamer friend into watching specifically these two videos because I think they’re so great: this vid of yours was a great and a half and a funny glimpse into what I put her through with my Jaina and Azshara fangirling!
*treat and a half. how could phone typing betray me like this.
So real simple explanation cause there is really no cinematic for this.
Azshara:
Basically the earth was ruled by the Old Gods back in the day (think hp.lovecraft Cthulhu beings) until the Titans (aka the "gods") imprisoned them, this one is N'zoth bound beneath the ocean.
Azshara was an empress and the most powerful sorceress in the world and got in contact with the leader of the demons and she was like "oh ok cool help me remake the world in my image and i will help you bring the demons on this planet".
The good guys didnt like that so what ensued was called the War of the Ancients (all of this happened 10.000+ years ago)
and it ended with the good guys winning and in the process the Well of Eternity (a powerful arcane lake) exploded causing the Sundering
which is what we see in this video, a great calamity causing tsunamis etc.
As she was dying Azshara made a deal with the Old God N'zoth and he turned her people into "mermaids" so they could survive.
Ohhhh okay. Thanks!
I really just wanna sit down and have coffee and like, tell you all the whack shit lore of this universe it's so much fun
Love the shirt! There is an in game achievement that you can aquire by hugging another player from the opposing faction in a player vs player zone. What is the achievement called you might ask? "Make Love, Not Warcraft". Figured you'd find that amusing if nothing else.
Haha yea I've heard of it! And thank you!
The water was caused by the Great Sundering, which was cause technically by Azshara when she let demons mess with the Well of Eternity (i believe my facts are right on this)
That video "The History of World of Warcraft in 23 minutes" is indeed about the game's lore (not its development), but I very much doubt you'd like it, unless you like telegraph-like essays...
Jaina betrayed her father, in favor of a peace-treaty that was in turn betrayed as soon as the Orcs got a new warchief.
Her father was the aggressor at the time though, and the last words she told her father was "Why would you not listen?". She was labelled a traitor by her own, and there is alot of symbolism of guilt in the video.
I'm for peace. I get it.
Well about Jaina and the song. The story is significantly more complex than daddy did bad and the daughter abandoned him that I have seen other say to reactors that don't have all the facts.
First of all, according to the lore of the game the humans, dwarves and elves of the alliance have fought two major wars against the Orcs when they where under the influence of the demons. During those wars, the Orcs committed major war crimes against the humans, elves and dwarves, and none of those aforementioned people trusted that the Orcs would change their ways anytime soon.
At the end of the second war, with the Alliance victorious, there were many voices that called for the systematic eradication of the Orc population, meaning genocide, and it was almost passed, that was how much the people of all races hated the Orcs. The one that stopped this and offered the alternative of putting the Orcs into concentration camps was one Admiral Daelin Proudmoore, Jaina's father and Admiral of the Kul Tiran fleet (Kul Tiran is an island nation and a member of the Alliance) and a hero of the Second War.
Now, Admiral Proudmoore had plenty of reason to hate the Orcs. Not only they were responsible for thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of casualties to his fleet and people, as well as the Alliance as a whole, they had also killed both his sons during the War. So, from this you can infer that he wasn't an unreasonable man. Though he hated them with a passion, he was the one that saved the Orcs from extinction.
Fast forward to the end of Warcraft 3. The Orcs, free at last from the demonic influence, have allied with the Night Elves and Jaina's faction in the continent of Kalimdor to fight the Demonic invasion. They honor that alliance and after defeating Archimonde, the then leader of the Burning Legion, they start building their capital of Orgrimmar, while maintaining friendly relations with Jaina that had built the city state of Theramore.
Admiral Proudmoore was still in Kul Tiras defending it from the undead of Arthas, a faction allied with the Demons at the time, but was searching also for his daughter. He heard about Theramore and that his daughter was in Kalimdor, so he decided to prepare an expedition force to go to her and learn what she has being doing all this time.
When he arrived at Kalimdor, he found Orcs building a forward base near Theramore. You must understand that when the Orcs left Lordaeron, they didn't leave in peace. They broke out of their concentration camps, killed the guards and nearby garrison force, looted the countryside for supplies and hit a naval base in order to gain the ships they needed to travel to Kalimdor. Knowing this, and remembering the destruction these invaders had wrought during the previous two wars, and not knowing that these Orcs had an alliance with the people of Theramore, he ordered a preemptive attack on the Orcs fearing they would attack his countrymen in Theramore.
That led to an escalation of hostilities. The Orcs didn't want to start a war against the Humans, but they needed to defend themselves, but Admiral Proudmoore entered Theramore and assumed control of the city with his forces, ready to hunt down the Orcs. Jaina tried to stop her father telling him that she had an alliance with Thrall, the leader of the Orcs, and that there was no need for war, but Daelin didn't believe for a second that the Orcs could be trusted. They had, after all, betrayed them before, during the previous two wars and also when they escaped and looted the countryside and the naval base at Lordaeron.
And so, ignoring his daughter's warning, he continued the war. He lost, when Jaina, fearing that the war would destroy her city and harm her people, made the decision to withdraw all her forces secretly and leave her father with only his own forces to face the Orcs. She asked Thrall to try and spare her father of possible, and he did try to spare the Admiral, but he, blinded by his hatred, fought to the end and he was killed.
So you see, he wasn't a warmongering asshole as some might present him. He simply had no trust for these people that had betrayed and harmed his people and family again and again. Hell, his stance was justified if you take into consideration that these Orcs did attack and killed the people of Lordaeron when leaving. By his account and knowledge, these people couldn't be trusted to keep their word. He even warns Jaina that they would betray her. And guess what, the events leading to this scene, are a series of betrayals of her endless efforts to bring peace to the Alliance and Horde.
The Horde, under the leadership of Grommash Hellscream after Thrall abdicated his position, started a war with the Alliance and even attacked Theramore claiming that it was a puppet state of Stormwind, the capital of the Alliance, and would be used as a staging ground to attack them. He didn't just invade, he used a Mana Bomb to level the city (Basically a Nuke), and killed every single person in the city, including all of Jaina's friends, allies and her apprentice. She only escaped because her direct superior in the mage's guild of Kirin Tor opened a portal and threw her in before the bomb exploded, saving her life.
Here we see that she had enough and accepting that what her father said back then was right. The Horde is a blight to the world and cannot be trusted and their leaders are all betrayers. She has lost almost everything to the Horde and she is on the warpath.
There is, of course, far more to the story, but I don't have the time to write all of it down.
The content of these two videos are in-universe about 10.000 years apart. :)
🤣🤣🤦🏽♀️I know that now hahaha
Ah dude you should watch the in-game cutscenes for Battle for Azeroth. I see you’ve reacted to most of the cinematics (the really well-detailed ones) but the in game cutscenes are the ones that mostly tell Jaina’s story.
She’s the best character in the entire 15 year long game imo. One of the few characters who tried to fight for peace until she couldn’t anymore.
I see a lot of people are just info-dumping her origin story so I won’t bother with that haha, but I highly recommend you check out the cutscenes. Just a pre-warning in case you do, Laura Bailey literally kills the voice acting, she’s so amazing.
Would've been something if Jaina caused the flood, she would be very old
First as many have said both Jaina and Azshara are mayor female characters and powerful mages in Warcraft lore since Warcraft 3, Sylvanas too, the sea shanty of the first short is how her people already see Jaina, as a traitor since shes not a princess but the daughter of the house that govern her nation, and you can see her own remorse of her past actions too, cause she really wanted peace between the Horde and the Alliance long ago, thats why she funded the city of Theramore the ruins where the short start and didnt help her father against the Horde of Thrall (the orc Saurfang went to look for in the Safe Haven cinematic), event that end with her father and many sailors of her nation dead, but even after that peace were never achieved between the 2 factions and to make things worse Theramore was destroyed and all its citizens killed by the same Warchief Thrall named after him, all these feelings are mixed in her short, plus she has a little parethesis in Arthas (Lich King) history.
Queen Azshara was always an antagonist in Warcraft story, she was the queen of one of the greatest empires of Azeroth but wasnt enough for her, the tsunami that destroyed the city was caused by The Sundering an event caused by her deal with the Burning Legion that separate the only continent of Azeroth in the 4 we have now, after that we saw on the short the new deal she made with the Old God N'zoth (the Olds Gods are Lovecraft based creatures) being these deal the Naga (serpent-merfolk people) creation.
Hope this help you a little to understand those shorts cause Warcraft lore is so extent and this 2 shorts rememorate 2 very specific moments of lore
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When it comes to backstory, sadly a lot of it is deep inside the game and novels and not in video form. If you wanted to learn about them in video form, you'd likely be best served finding a loremaster on youtube who talks about these things. Nobbel is an amazing storyteller. He'd probably be your best bet in this regard.
This is what people are telling me!
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@Qonqurer cate Rude?
Qonquerer Cate if being kind and respectful towards a woman makes a man a simp, than I don’t want to be anything other than a “simp”.
There are no videos explaining their back stories. But if you search out Lady Jaina Proudmoore and Queen Azshara and look at gamepedia's entries on them you can read about these two powerful women.
12:20 Literally every WoW reaction you do.
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Not gonna dump more lore on you, since many others already did! So I'm just gonna express my happiness about you reacting to those videos! Always makes my day happier seeing you being all lively about the things I like (or not depening on the game trailer you react :P). Can't wait for more Wow and more Witcher! Lots of Love from the Horde! ;)
Omg how did you know! I just filmed a Witcher one 🤣🤣🤣 since it's been a while.
@@HannaHsOverInvested My Witcher-sense was tingling *wiggles with her eyebrows* XD
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Nothing wrong with having that song stuck in your head. I have it on my phone so I can listen to it when I want :')
TLDR on the first one
Jaina was the daughter of prominent Admiral Proudmoore. He was hellbound on finishing the war agains the invading Orcs, Jaina went to them to try to make peace. Her father followed her thinking she needed saving, he got in trouble with the orcs/Horde, and she refused to help, he died. Her homeland saw this as the ultimate treachery, this song became the "cautionary tale" of their culture, "Beware the Daughter of the Sea".
TLDR on second one
Underwater tentacle-God was just posessing the fish to speak to her. She, Azshara, was a powerful sorcerer as well as the leader of the ancient elf race.
I think this may be the first time these two characters were represented on screen. Most their history comes from books, Queen Azshara's Origin story" is basically the War of the Ancients trilogy, great read.
Some things you may like to watch, look for Jaina Proudmoore lore, Azshara lore, Suramar, warcraft 3 Azshara makess a deal with Sargeras.
0:11 "They are always requested in three" Do you mean.... "By three they come"?
"Did the daughter of the sea do this?" Nope.... but there was this one time, she totally had to be talked down out of doing it to the Horde capital city. And ah, she wasn't bluffing she could do it, she had the wall of water all sorted out and on it's way.
Thanks! I have since learned that these two videos did not happen at the same time hahah
While I totally love Jaina and know that would go agaisnt her character, I SOOO would love to see just once her going full out, it's almost as shen always been holding back
Correction: She actually did launch a Tsunami against the city of Ogrimmar in the hopes of killing every man, woman and child in the city, but the attack was intercepted by Thrall. She was ready to do a second attempt counting on Thrall not being able to stop a second Tsunami, before her boyfriend at the time convinced her to stop.
@@Neocoolzero yeah Jaina went off in mists of pandaria when garrosh nuked theramore. As yanuel said she was going to commit genocide on the horde if it wasn't for Kalecgos talking her out of it.
@@zZSleepytimeZz Garrosh did nothing wrong
Jania Proudmoore leader of the Kirin Tor and one of the most powerful mages in all of Warcraft lore former lover/friend of Arthas Menthil who ended up becoming the Lich King. She's had a pretty brutal life.... Watching the man she loves commit one of the most horrific acts in all of Warcraft lore the culling of stratholme then watching the horde destroy her town of thermore harbor where her father dies while she did nothing..
to get the backstory for Azshara you would need to go back 10000 years - she's at least that old - and the old god is even older.
For Azshara you really need to read the books - War of the Ancients. For jaina you just need to watch All Jaina Cinematics & Cutscenes in Chronological Order - Battle for Azeroth (WOW BFA).
If you want to get the big picture without any details you should probably watch the Full history of WoW in 23min - even though that doesn't include the first ones and their first creations....
They are Elves. Night Elves. Eyebrows people LOL They were turned into the Naga. Serpent/Mer people. Azshara is their Queen.
It would probably take ages to understand these two magnificent characters. But worth it, because those two are really good and strong characters.
On another note, World of Warcraft posted 4 new videos for the upcoming Shadowlands expansion, called Afterlives. It dives deeper to the different Covenants that are working in the Shadowlands (New lore with old characters, because Shadowlands is like a heaven of sorts, it's where all the dead souls go.) I would deeply recommend to watch those, because it's basically new stuff for everyone, so we can all go "I'm confused" :D
Oh and now when I'm bingewatching your videos I noticed that you've already watched the Bastion one. Kudos! :)
The afterlives, and warbringers videos are made in this comic-book style of animation. They are the ones that show a little bit of lore before the new expansion of the game comes out. Cool in their own way. Your other videos are cool aswell, so I'll be staying here for all of the content
No videos for The War of the Ancients really, it is a trilogy of novels. The Well of Eternity, The Dragon Soul and The Sundering.
The big baddie for BFA is Lady Azshara of the Naga. Naga are there weird mermaid people who you kind of have to ask "where did the come from." So what you saw was kind of the origin story of the Naga. The bigger story is "who is that guy she made a bargain with." ruclips.net/video/qOKSbPSAjDQ/видео.html and what does he want. ruclips.net/video/JB7DKeye3pE/видео.html Deeper down the rabbit hole Alice.
So basically,
10,000 years ago, Azshara made a deal with demons to cleanse the world and make it a paradise, they failed, and when they did it caused “the sundering” which put most of the continent underwater(which is what you saw). What reached out to her was an old god, N’zoth(like Cthulhu but less squid and more eyes). And then made a new deal with him.
10,000 years later(Azshara isn’t around for a while)
The demons are back, and jaina is partnering with the horde to beat them, and they do! Yay! They get a nice treaty going and are living in peace. Well her dad comes to find, and “save her” and basically starts all out war with her new allies. She partners with them to beat her dad, and so basically for the next 20 years she is branded a traitor to her own people.
And that’s pretty much it, in a nutshell!
Love the videos! Keep it up!
Jainas' Song explained:
Jaina is from Kul'Tiras, a faction and now race of humans. They are sea fairers and are the most powerful Alliance seamen. They had a song about the sea, which is now about Jaina.
In Warcraft 3, Thrall, an Orc was visited by Medhiev (the guardian of Azeroth) in a dream and told to sail west to Kalimdor to save his people, which he eventually did.
However, Jainas father the Lord Admiral - Daelin Proudmore, chased them as Jaina was with them, and he assume she was being held against her will.
When he finally caught up with her and Thralls' new Horde, he was violent and wanted to literally kill all of the Orcs, he would not Relent. Jaina stood aside and let her father pick his fight, she refused to help. As a result, Daelin and most of his men died. Those of his men who survived made it back to Kul'Tiras and told of Jainas tretchery because she would not side with her own father and her people against the Orcs.
So their cultural song about the sea became a warning not to trust Jaina. Which is why at the end she says 'Beware, beware of me.'
The Ghost she sees is her father acting as a ferryman to his sunken Galleon, which Jaina then raises from the sea and uses to fight at the battle of Lorderon. The pendant she lifts from the fallen sword is her family crest, and the pendant was her fathers. She sings this song to remember the mistakes she made and signify her regret at not siding with her father.
Azsharas' Warbringers explained:
The Azshara event took place about 10,000 years ago. Elfs at the time were immortal.
Queen Azshara reigned over her High Elf population for millenia. The tidal wave? That is 'the well of eternity' being ripped asunder. The Well of Eternity is an ocean, not a well and it was a very potent font of power for the High Elves and the magic they used.
When the well was destroyed it caused the super-continent of Kalimdor to split and become what it is now, leaving behind a large vortex called The Maelstrom.
Azshara made a deal with Sargeras (The Mad Titan) that she would assist his burning crusade, but only ifg she got to rule as queen. When she first heard Sargeras (Whom she assumed was a god, not a titan) she thought that he would make a good mate to breed with, this is her arrogance at play. This is why she says 'This is not the deal I made'
She held back the tidal wave not for her people, but for her Kingdom. It was an entirely selfish desire. She is possibly the most powerful mage Azeroth has ever had.
The fish is a servant of an old god called N'zoth.It speaks to Sylvanas inher own voice. N'zoth was physically the weakest of the old gods that had infected Azeroth (Think cancerous tumour with an agenda for old gods in WoW). However, he was the smartest and could plan eons ahead of time.
He kinda baits Azshara into accepting his deal while having her believe she has the upperhand.
The red place you see is a glimpst of Nya'Lotha, the mad city where only mad things sleep and even death may die. When Azshara says it's magnificent it's because she wishes to rule Nya'Lotha. Her ego is and always will be massive.
Azsharas bluff is a semi serious bluff. She would be willing to let herself and her people die if she could not be queen.
As a result N'zoth transforms her and her people into the Naga. The Naga are an amphibous folk, they can live in deep seas or on land, although they prefer deep seas.
Azshara is not deserving of sympathy, she would have people tortured for her own entertainment and she literally invited demons onto Azeroth knowing full well they would kill everything she didn't want to keep, as that was the deal she made. In the warbringer video when her people are begging her to save them, she denies any and all responsibility for her actions that led directly to what happened.
Also, the lore cannot be condensed into 23 minutes. The best source ofr Lore is Nobble, he does deep dives and tells full stories.
The lore has been changed since The Burning Crusade and onwards, things like the addition of the Draenie and the like.
This being said, the lore is fantastic, always has been. It's not terribly original but it is rather enjoayble.
My 4 year old LOVES this song. she tells me "play daughter of the sea"
Your kid is cool.
And that is how the Naga (merfolk) were made.
hahahah okay!
I would recommend Nobbel87, PlatinumWoW and Hierumax if you want WoW lore. Nobbel goes in depth with the lore and how it relates to multiple characters, Platinum does summaries with added humor and machinima, lastly Hierumax does summaries with cute artstyles done by other people for Villains' Corner.
Lady Jaina Proudmoore was daughter to the high admiral of Kul Tiras; Daelin Proudmoore. When the burning Legion (army of demons) invaded Azeroth she sought help from the Orks with their new Horde. When her father tried to find her he found her negotiating with the Orks and saw them as nothing but animals that had kidnapped his daughter. There was a fight and Jaina's father was killed. When the war with the legion was over, Jaina set up port in Kalimdor near the Ork city of Durator where she still had good and strong relations with the Ork Warchief Thrall. Thrall ended up giving up his title to the Ork Garrosh who decided he wanted to go back to the old ways and cut ties with former alliances. So he attacked and destroyed Jaina's home, killing just about everyone. The cinematic is her burying the dead and at a cross roads where she wondered if her father was right; that orks can't be trusted.
Kind of a sad story.
@@HannaHsOverInvested She's one of the most powerful sorceresses in the game and a very compelling character. Queen Azshara on the other hand...She let the Burning Legion come to Azeroth in the first place, the deal was a promise of power in exchange for the lives of her world. She got what was coming to her, then she made a deal with the eldritch god N'zoth (scary tentacle monster) to survive her mistake; to be the queen of the Naga and servant of N'Zoth.
Blizzard has released 4 new cinematics for the new xpac, you should see them. They are called Shadowlands Afterlives
Azshara have a very limited "known" history as her name has always been very known but compared to most other caracters there is very little confirmed information about her. Infact before this Warbringer Azshara there was almost nothing about her atall. Jaina on the other hand is the compleate opposite. There is massive amount of lore around her and if u want to learn her lore and who she is. Then instead of the Blizzard videos i would instead recommend user made videos. They tend to be more specific and will explain the caracter over a longer timeframe aswell. Ofc this would make the good videos mostly around 1 hour if not longer but if u really want to know, Those are the videos to watch.
This video covers most up untill 2018 ruclips.net/video/vauVUmhfaxg/видео.html&ab_channel=Nobbel87
This is her story after Warbringer Jaina when she return to her home and the ppl that think of her as nothing more then a traitor learns the truth of what really happened. I couldent find a good user made video explaining all of this but these cinematics do a very good job at telling this part of the story. ruclips.net/video/5V9C_q20Sd0/видео.html&ab_channel=Coolpedia
Fun fact: Azshara planned to kill that “god” from the get go and in Battle for Azeroth expansion but she was defeated. The heroes of Azeroth saved her from being tortured by his minions and she gave them a dagger named Xal’atath to use and kill him. They succeeded by the way.
After Warbringers: Jaina you can watch this cinematics that's about story of this amazing character in Battle for Azeroth:
Siege of Lordaeron:
1. Turn the Tide: ruclips.net/video/3CGBLVNpoKo/видео.html
2. Lordaeron Throne Room Confrontation (Horde): ruclips.net/video/nTowPRMsiEA/видео.html
Jaina's campaing:
3. Jaina's nightmare: ruclips.net/video/XMPt6mxS3RY/видео.html
4. Arrival to Kul Tiras: ruclips.net/video/3LMNG2UKuig/видео.html
5. Realm of Torment: ruclips.net/video/NDj2aaxixxo/видео.html
6. The Return of Hope: ruclips.net/video/MKJ7lVbv3VM/видео.html
7. Unexpected Reunion: ruclips.net/video/2wREeahXw1Q/видео.html
8. Crossroads: ruclips.net/video/LEV0jmGFRPk/видео.html
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Jaina Proudmoore was given an opportunity to flee her war loving father and her homicidal boyfriend Arthus so she left and took any that would follow her and built a new kingdom not far from the Horde capital and was on natural standing with them however her father latter followed her and found the orcs near her and out of hate attacked the orcs and when he asked her to join him she said no and now holds there fate on her shoulders at lest that's how her people see it
OMG Jyna! I'm still laughing at that one. That was cute. Might need to name a toon that!
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@@HannaHsOverInvested I love that "russian manner" Jaina prononciation :)
Fun fact. Russian version of Jaina is cooler and is fool goosbumps. Listen to it.
The first Girl is basically the love interest of the lich King, the guy that looks like the night king and summons the frost undead dragon. But that one in particular, not the one who was all fiery and lost to Eyebrows.
Also, a good animation just like this is Lords of War, and in my opinion, does not require much background knowledge since the narator explains who they are going to fight, and that he fought these lords of war before.
Jaina and Sylvanas are tragic stories, Azshara is just greed
I am favourable to the daughter of the sea...
@@HannaHsOverInvested if you wanted a good cinematic is The Wrath Gate, it depicts Arthas, the death of Saurfangs son, the death of the new lichking, and Sylvanas attacking arthas.
Jaina's arc is the only arc that grew her character in a good way in this expansion (Battle for Azeroth). You should really react to her in-game cutscenes for this expansion. It's good! :) It explains quite a lot, and the confusing things aren't That important honestly. To add to that, the human storylines are generally the most relatable ones for most people, no matter how much we might try to think otherwise. They are the stories most based in our "Earth/European-American culture".
Maybe also react to the "Battle for Lordaeron" cutscenes to see how this expansion starts and how powerful she is. Azshara might be the most powerful azerothian mage of all time, but Jaina is surely fighting hard for second place.
Thanks! I'll maybe put out a poll about it... even tho I haven't been good at following through on the results of the polls, I really like hearing everyones thoughts on what I should do next.
P.S. The Azshara cinematic is quite obviously the most confusing one. Like... I often feel like people should skip it for the BfA/War campaign story. After we hit the Azshara/N'zoth story in BfA most people agreed that BfA was beyond... "redemption", or whatever you feel is a suitable word. So yeah, the Azshara cinematic takes place 10 000 years earlier and humans didn't even exist. HaHAA
@@HannaHsOverInvested - P.P.S. Polls are always cool. ;)
@@MrZeuz666 I should do more polls haha
Eyebrows people, nearly spat out my coffee lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣 thanks. That made me laugh.
U said “WHOS SHE!” When u seen Jaina with her hood down in one of ur other videos. The Battle for Azeroth In game cinematic u posted a while ago (non-gamer finishes) and azshara corrupted queen boss we deal with in game
So, there isn't much cutscene wise that would really explain them, but there's another RUclipsr named Nobbel that goes all into the lore of a bunch of different Warcraft characters and events. Most of the stories are told via in-game cutscenes and whatnot, or in-game lore tidbits.
i wished there were videos for every detail for jainas story :D. for the entire warcraft history, there is no chance of pushing that into 23mins tho, more like 23hours MAYBE. :P
My best advice would be the 23 min history video you saw so you can see who these characters are. There are more comprehensive videos on the lore but those are like 2 hours long lol
Maybe both! haha
Yup there is loads of lore when it comes to Warcraft. Horde, Alliance, Old gods, Titans, Demons, Undead. Lots of good stories that happen in game and in other media. Cinematics, manga, or full novels. There is already 15+ years of story that exist and we are about to have loads more lore in a month when the expansion Shadowlands comes out. An expansion where there is something wrong with the Afterlife and we have to go there to fix it.
So much to learn!!
Recently started watching your NGW series of videos, I'm not sure why the format of watching someone who's never played these games react to trailers that I've watched at least a dozen times already is so interesting but it is and thank you for the entertainment.
Another game series that you might want to consider is Halo, there's a mix of CGI and live action trailers for the series and it's a gaming franchise with a transmedia narrative that spans 19 years and counting.
Should you be interest in watching/reacting to the trailers, the series in narrative chronological order is a follows;
Halo Wars
Halo Reach
Halo Combat Evolved
Halo 2
Halo 3 ODST
Halo 3
Halo 4
Halo 5
Halo Wars 2
Thank you! From what people have said to me, is watching me watch them is like seeing them for the first time again for some. 😊 Maybe that's why.
I haven't watched any halo, but is there a good story? Cause I really didn't love assassin's Creed . The trailers didnt have a story, even tho I've heard the game does.
@@HannaHsOverInvested Yeah, that might be it! Whatever it is, its good fun.
Halo does have a good story, though I don't know how well the trailers convey that story.
The gist of the story is this;
In the far future, humanity after discovering faster than light travel have expanded across the stars and colonized planets through out the galaxy.
Over time the colonies want independence from earth and rebellion starts in the outer colonies. The United Nation Space Command or UNSC begin to quell the insurrection. They simultaneously begin a super soldier project called the SPARTAN project. During the course this project the government illegally kidnaps children who have specific genetic markers that make them suitable for the program, one of these children is the protagonist of the game, the character you play. He grows up and becomes a super soldier known as SPARTAN 117, the Master Chief (his rank in the navy and what he's referred to through most of the game).
These SPARTANs are initially deployed against the separatist but soon encounter a hostile, fanatical alien species called the covenant who are bent on the complete and total eradication of the human race in the pursuit of fulfilling their great purpose. The game starts at this point. Humanity stops its in fighting now that their very survival is on the line. The game series than mostly follows the heroics of the player character against the enemies of humanity.
The game also has a very fun character dynamic between the protagonist and his AI companion Cortana.
if you want to get some backstory you should type Nobbel + (whatever charakter/Weapon) in your RUclips Search, he basically covered everything lore relevant in WoW.
If you want to get some written stuff, the Bookseries "WoW Chronicles" gives you an overview over the story, beginning with the Creation of the Univerese and fundamental Powers at work.
It's hard to encapsulate the story of some charakters like Aszhara which basically lived for over 10000 Years in the Storyline, The WoW Universe is older than 20 Years so there has been a lot of story, and redconned story.
Unfortunately not all of these characters backstories are told in videos. You can get some of Jainas from the old cutscenes from Warcraft 3 if you can find them but Azshara is mostly told through in game play and books
I will be watching some lore videos at some point.
Alotta Fa-Jaina
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Poor Jaina had a hard life.
Unfortunately, there really isn't much that would delve into the lore outside of playing the games and or reading the books. The video segments are typically promo material, full of teasers and things longtime fans already know but give a bit of visual narrative to events eluded to rather than experienced in the game. For Jaina's story in particular you would need to play through Warcraft 3 and its expansion to get the full understanding of who she is, and even then her story has changed a lot and had many turns since then.
Suffice to say, you will never get an in-depth understanding of the story here just by watching the cinematics released by Blizzard.There's just too much lore.
This is 100% one of the best reactions I've seen of the warbringers from someone that doesn't know the lore.
Awwww thank you! I appreciate that so much.
i really recommend the harbringer trailers as well, though i guess you already have a list to go trough, the gul'dan one is my personal favorite(they are also from world of warcraft)
Hey, two of my favourites! Especially daughter of the sea. If you're anything like me, you put the song on repeat after finishing the video, and sung it non-stop for several days :D (Btw, there's a pure music version on RUclips as well)
I have never actually played the game, but I absolutely love a number of these cinematics.
As for getting the story in video format: Unfortunatly, they are not really told that way; you would have to watch quite a bit of gameplay footage which is significantly less engaging and visually pleasing. There are compilations out there that condense certain story arcs, but they are still hours long.
There's also lore videos that tell the story much like the people in the comments do (though with more effort put in and with background video); I'd recommend those if you want to "get" the characters for yourself, but I don't think they make good reaction material in the slightest.
Okay! Thanks!
Having played wow for years, I always loved Jaina and hated how she was just a minor character in a forgotten town (Theramore), been loving what they've been doing with her, and her redemption arc in BFA. I still shed a tear everytime (just now when I watched this) I watch or hear to this song, it's so beautiful