That Chris Davis deal set the O's back a decade and forced them into a complete tear down and rebuild. They haven't signed a single player to a big deal since and probably won't again for several years. Their ownership was already cheap, now they'll never hand out that kind of money again.
@@BashBroJoe how so? They're all pretty basic facts with well-founded speculation. I doubt they'll ever hand out another 140+ mil contract to anybody in the near future with this ownership. The soonest would probably be Adley Rutchman if he turns into a superstar. But that's about 7 years out.
Chris Davis was making 23m a year. That can not and will not ever financially cripple a professional baseball franchise. It didn’t force them into a 10 year rebuild. It was a dumb decision because the run of success the Orioles had was clearly over and wasn’t identified quickly enough by previous management. Which brings us to the reason the rebuild has taken so long. Terrible trades. Could of traded a season or even season and half for both Britton and Machado and received a Kings ransom for either one at the time and Instead they waited until the last minute and got penny’s on the dollar in return. Duquette and McPhail (before) left the O’s with zero farm system. Zero organizational depth. Zero culture outside of the Major League Level (all culture that existed thanks to Buck). One analytics employee existed under those regimes lol Elias and Sig have revamped the entire system. They have taken the Orioles from bottom farm to top farm. Coaches have been hired that follow a organizational philosophy and teach it from the bus leagues to the pros. The analytics department has been thoroughly invested in. So while you say the owner is cheap I say after 30 years of ownership they are finally getting smart. And they aren’t actually that cheap. Check payrolls over the years since Angelos took over. When the Orioles have something going money gets spent. And unfortunately until the Elias regime (excluding the Pat Gillick era which was tremendous) began they would typically add big free agents to shitty teams which does nothing but sell a few tickets (see Belle and Tejada). They will certainly spend money again. Maybe not 300m to a player over 10 years but I wouldn’t do that either. No one talks foul of the Rays because they win. I’m trusting the process. I’m excited for what’s being built. And with the new found organizational depth and a typical mid level payroll (which they’ve carried as recently as 2015) when the times right the Orioles could be very good for very long. You were right about the Orioles not signing a single player to a big contract since. But who would you of signed? This rebuild was way bigger than the MLB level unfortunately. But fortunately for Orioles fans the MLB level should be the main focus going forward. The hard part appears to be over.
Bobby Bonilla was a bad free agent signing for the Mets in 1999, based mostly on the insane deferment plan they put him on. The Mets are having to pay Bonilla nearly $1.2 million dollars per year until the year 2035. In all, the Mets are paying Bonilla $30 million for 60 games he played for them in 1999 - where he hit .160 with a .277 OBP and .303 SLG with 4 home runs and 18 RBI.
it was 1992 when he signed then he got traded to Baltimore won a World Series with the Marlins then became a Met again and Bernie Madoff worked his magic
@@greatloverofmusic1 Bonilla was already paid close to $19 million for those three good seasons with the Mets and was the highest paid player in baseball. That separate contract was a decent deal. The subject was about specific contracts, not the entire career of a player. The bad contract in question was the one season deal in 1999 which ballooned with deferment and interest, averaging out to being paid $500,000 per game to post those horrible stats in 60 games. Paying a half million dollars per game for a 49 OPS+ player is ridiculous.
The funniest thing to me is the Mets releasing Bobby Bonilla in 1999 allowed them to trade for Mike Hampton. When he left to sign with the Rockies in 2000 the Mets got a compensatory draft pick and they used that pick on David Wright
As a Cub Fan, he was in the right place at the right time in 2016 to give that motivation speech during the rain delay. He also is a premier defender, but Jason Heywards bat is seriously lacking. Love the guy for what he gave us in '16, but still overall not a great signing.
I’m seeing a lot of people mentioning the Jason Bay Mets signing. My list heavily factored the difference in value/total contract. Bay definitely had a big difference, but the players on this list had bigger differences. Also, Josh Hamilton slipped my mind. My potato brain fails again. P.S. I left Heyward off for a few reasons. Sure it hasn’t been a great contract, but he helped win a World Series, and provided decent production from 2018-20.
Bingo on Josh Hamilton, the Angels also blew money on Gary Matthews, Jr and before a single game he got caught in a steroids investigation and was ok in season 1, then hot garbage after that
I was at fenway gift shop with my son they where selling game used pats big Papis bat was broken couple of other players bat's where all scuffed up... Carl Crawfords bat was like brand new lol
Ahh Heyward I knew there was an obvious one I was missing with my list. Funny thing was those of us that believe more in traditional stats saw Heyward as just an ok player. It was the sabrermetricians that were in love with him. Ten years before his signing he wouldn’t have seen half that contract. He was the best example of doing a lot of small things well and nothing great (except for his RF defense but is anyone going to give Gallo a similar contract because his defense is on par with Heyward’s?)
Corey seager will be on this list soon. He just recently signed a 10 year, 325 million contract with TX. He's always injured and he has never hit 30 home runs in a season.
@@rkelly-h7i Hits for average? Seager is no Ichiro. Only has had 1 year in his career with no injuries. This guys will be the next JD Drew, Rangers will be unloading faster than ARoids
@@edgarlopez2617 his career average is .300. Ichiros career average is .311. Not much of a difference and seagers only been in the league for 6 or 7 years
You’re a prince among men Robbie! You totally saved this Braves fan the pain of reliving the pain of the BJ Upton signing. I would've included that one. I’m waiting on the 10 best, and worst, trades.
Yeah man. AA is on top of things. If he'll remember that Freddie chose to stay for the rebuild and quit sweating the guy over a year, we'd be at set, after the the lockout.
Pujols gets a bad wrap, or at least worse than deserved. Expand his average season during the 2nd act of his career over his entire career, and he is still a candidate for the hall of fame. And a certain lock in the Angels hall of fame. The best example is that 82 RBI over his 21 seasons would still put him in the top 25 all time, ahead of "lock" hall of famers Reggie Jackson, Jim Thome and Cal Ripken Jr - all of whom played 21 or 22 seasons.
Never understood why cashman gave Ellsbury so much money. Especially when he and Brett Gardner were basically the same player. Plus we also signed Carlos Beltran that same offseason and already had ichiro on the roster.
The Yankees went downhill after 2001 when they lost character guys like O’Neill, Tino, and Brosius and went after superstars. They also didn’t have the pitching they had from 1996-2001. I think they became fixated on eye candy. Today, the Yankees are a one-dimensional offense. All they do is hit home runs and strike out. No fundamentals.
@@Sweetish_Jeff_ I fully agree. Plus they’ve also been too right handed hitting oriented. For having the short porch in right and wanting to be a home run hitting team. They didn’t have any regular left handed hitters after didi left and before they traded for Rizzo and Gallo.
Teams can afford them and the players are more valuable than what they are getting paid. No owner is going broke even with all these contracts, that should tell you something. There is a lot more money involved than people realize
I would also add Josh Hamilton’s contract as well. He was a legit beast with the Rangers, especially in 2010 where he had 8.4 fWAR in only 133 games and a 1.044 OPS. He signed with the Angels and was beyond atrocious. It’s incredible how far he fell.
Gary Matthews Jr. turned one good season with the Rangers into a 5 year $50 million dollar deal with the Angels. He quickly got popped for PEDs and was just bad thereafter.
Matt kemp is on here? A list of all time worst, and you didn’t have Josh Hamilton, Vernon Wells, Prince Fielder, Chone Figgins and Hanley Ramirez ? There are many more that are worse than kemps too.. why is he on here ?
Sir . . . could you also do a video on the BEST free agent signings ever in terms of a team getting the most “bang for its buck”? IMO . . . the one contract that would have to be on such a “list” would have to be the Braves signing Greg Maddux in December of 1992 for a 5 year, 28 million dollar contract. For what Maddux accomplished during that 5-year contract, leading the Braves to playoffs each season, pitching with a ridiculously minuscule ERA of like 1.31 during that 5-year period, and helping the Braves win it all in 1995, all from a guy making just slightly north of 5 mil a season, has got to be one of the greatest free agent signings in MLB history, if not THE greatest. But, a video from you with such a list would be awesome to watch. Thank you for all your hard work that goes into making these videos, as well done and professional as they are:)
What valuation did Bobby Bonilla have for the 1999 season when he played only 60 games with 49 OPS+? He will be paid $30 million for that single season contract after all of the deferred payments are made. Worst one season deal.
@@hmhm856 no doubt, but with 26 other titles, I don't think he was worth all the troubles and chaos with him. The PEDs, suspensions, awful interviews, war with the fans, causing team divides, feud with Jeter, like this team has done enough winning to give up one title to never have dealt with this jackass
@@DrewRitz I will say this: when Arod opted out of the contract he got with Texas after the 2007 season, the Yankees should not have signed him. Brian Cashman didnt want to sign him either since it didnt make sense from a financial point, since Texas was paying like 10 million of the 25 million per year (so Texas was very happy that Arod opted out, obviously). And many also didnt want Arod back due to all the drama that it was occurring. I remember that it was Hank and Hal that wanted Arod back, mainly since it was the final year in Yankee Stadium 2 in 2008 and then the first year in Yankee Stadium 3 in 2009, so Yankees wanted to make sure to have buzz and packed houses every game, and they also wanted to celebrate Arod's home run achievements and hit totals (which everything went out the window after it was revealed that he did PED).
You don't go back far enough. Possibly the worst FA signing for the Los Angeles Dodgers was way back in 1980 when they signed starting pitcher Dave Goltz for six seasons for $500,000 a season. The Dodgers would pick up all but $150,000 the California Angels paid after they signed Goltz in 1982. Goltz lasted 2 seasons with the Dodgers before they dropped him after Goltz pitched a total of 3.2 innings in 2 games in April of 1982. After five consecutive seasons in which Goltz had pitched over 200 innings per season, Goltz managed only 171 innings in 1980 and 77 innings in 1981. His WHIP in 1980 was 1.500. His ERA+ in both 1980 and 1981 was 82. It should also be pointed out that Nolan Ryan was also available as a FA when the Dodgers signed Goltz.
I remember when Mike Hampton was a free agent after the 2000 season. He chose between the Rockies and the Cardinals. Being a Cards fan, I thought he would sign here even after knocking us out of the playoffs. He chose Colorado because of the school system apparently. Opening Day 2001 the Cardinals played the Rockies and Hampton dominated. I remember Peter Gammons gushing... Ah well. I often wonder what would have been had Hampton signed with St. Louis.
I would’ve loved to see Hampton in a Cards uniform, being a long time Cards fan myself. However, I have to say, the Cardinals organization did pretty okay without Hampton from 2000-2014, experiencing a virtual dynasty. But who knows, perhaps if Hampton made the RIGHT decision and signed with the Cards, perhaps he could’ve continued his period of dominance for 4 or 5 more seasons, perhaps even helping to put the Cardinals over the top of the Astros if they had a Hampton helping them during the ‘05 NLCS, where Pujols hit the majestic home run off of Lidge in Game 5, but ultimately lost the series because Astro pitching that season was just deeper than the Cards, and the Cards had no answer for Roy Oswalt, another Cards killer. Or maybe having Hampton would’ve helped the Cards beat the D-backs in 2001 in the NLDS against The Big Unit and Curt Schilling, helping them advance to face the Braves in the NLCS. Who knows? I just know Hampton made the WRONG decision choosing the Rockies over Dave Duncan and the Cardinals. Denver is where pitchers go to die, and certainly that is what happened to Hampton. He was so atrocious in Denver, the Rockies couldn’t wait to ship him off to the Braves in 2003, after a horrendous 2 years at Coors Field where he was a huge bust, crippling the Rockies financially, who signed him to an 8-year, 120 million dollar contract, the largest in MLB at that time. He ended up doing better with the Braves in ‘03 and ‘04, helping them make the playoffs both years, before succumbing to basically a career-ending injury in ‘05, though he wouldn’t officially retire until March, 2011, spending his last 6 professional years essentially trying to recover from Tommy John Surgery, either on the DL, going on rehab assignments, and pitching in only a smattering of games each season from 2005 - 2010. It’s too bad. The trajectory of his whole career could have been way better had he signed with the Cardinals in 2000. Historically, only Mike Leake pitched worse in a Redbird uniform than he did elsewhere in his career. All other pitchers that came to St. Louis via free agency (or trades) were made better in St. Louis during Dave Duncan’s tenure, or at least enjoyed a certain level of success that they didn’t achieve prior to pitching for the Cardinals.
Chris Davis didn’t really prevent the orioles from doing anything in the playoffs. They were never gonna figure out the pitching. But I’m glad you mentioned what he did in the community bc he really set out to make it feel like he felt welcome after leaving Texas. He did do amazing things and after those were finished he was a gentleman about playing less and never complained once about the city or team. Also baltimore was never not (double negative I know) going to give him that contract, he was without questioning worth it at that time.
I’m a Phillies fan and even thought he’s one of my favorite players of all time, Ryan Howard should definitely be on this list somewhere. Couldn’t make adjustments to the shift and those injuries sucked.
I’m completely with you, but I think the Ryan Howard situation was technically a contract extension. I think he signed the extension before his original contract was done, but I could be wrong. Really wish he could have avoided that injury in the NLDS
@@vintage_85 I’m a Mets fan and Bryce Harper is good. He used to get compared to Mike trout and he’s obviously an inferior player, but he’s still a top 10 outfielder in the NL
The Orioles signed Davis knowing that in 2014 he had a .196/.300/.404 season over 127 games. The signs were there that he was going to decline massively ala Ryan Howard.
Best joke I ever heard was one time I was visiting Colorado with a friend. We’re both big sports guys and we’re drinking in a bar in Denver watching the Rockies game talking about that teams short but fun history. We’ll long story short one guy we were talking too goes “I’m convinced the Rockies signed mike Hampton due to his hitting ability. Him being able to pitch at an average rate was just a bonus” 😂😂😂
I’d be more surprised if free agent signings ended up being more than they were worth, to me it always seemed like a lot of players were getting what they should have been worth before being free agent elligible
Rusney Castillo didn't get cut in 2016. He stayed with the team until 2020, but the Red Sox kept him off their 40 man because if they released him or put him on the 40 man his contract would count towards the luxury tax. So the Red Sox paid him $10+ million a year to be a triple a player.
May I add a couple of contenders to be worst free agent signings of all time, both by the Cleveland Indians: Nick Swisher, a very average player during his career, who managed to get the Tribe to negotiate against themselves (no one else wanted him but the offer kept going up) for a contract that paid him more than $13M a year and Keith Hernandez, a washed up former star whose only true interest in the Indians was cashing the $1.7M in paychecks they gave him for around a quarter of the season.
Pablo Sandoval in Boston was really bad. Sent back to San Francisco where he was actually better again. Goes to show, sometimes leaving one team for another isn't always a good thing.
Low-key bad one is the Braves signing BJ Upton after 2012 to what I think was the largest contract in their history: five years, $75.25 million. He would have been okay had he kept doing what he had been doing. But he just imploded, hitting .184/.268/.289 that first year. That line is legit one of the worst for a center fielder in history, even in the crazy 19th century days.
Kemp never had an ops under 100 for that 8 years.. 20 per year is nothing even for 2011-2018. Considering Hamilton. Fielder. Howard were all in that same era
As a Dodger fan, I can give you two WORST free agents signings than the Kemp. Kemp was a beast when the Dodgers signed him. Jason Schmidt, we signed him to a 3 year 47mil contract, barely pitched total record of 3-6, 6.01 era. And Andrew Jones, he was still an allstar with Atlanta and came here and forgot how to hit. 2 years 36 mil
Still dont understand what the hell Boston was thinking with Sandoval. He had been an above average hitter at best and was a below average defender. Hanley wasn't great either but that at least made sense and he had some solid years. The Carl Crawford one made even less sense given Ellsbury was pretty much the same player Crawford was except without as much power.
I'm a diehard Rays fan, we loved Crawford during his time with us in Tampa Bay. Hopefully he can make the hall of fame. Probably not but I hope the Rays eventually retire his number.
Matt Kemp should not be on this list, as he was not a free agent signing. He signed an extension on his previous deal, and he did not change teams as a result. I'd also question whether the Cuban signings you listed should be in the same category as neither had MLB experience prior to the signings. They are more akin to a poor draft pick.
Lol, Jason Schmidt was the ace of the SF Giants, was Colletti's first signing when he became our GM. Dan Stanhouse, with all due respect was a journeyman pitcher. It would have been like if we signed Sutton, or Happy Hooten and they stunk up the place and retired. I doubt Stsnhouse was that caliber of a pitcher
@@edgarlopez2617 Don Stanhouse had a World Series like no other the year before, even though his Orioles lost to the Pittsburgh Pirates in Game 7 at Baltimore.
@@Jiltedin2007 Then it was good we didnt count on him to be our set closer, Howe filled that role nicely. 3x Allstar and CY runner up, Jason Schmidt was signed to be our ace and start a new chapter. I doubt Stanhouse was signed with the same intent.
Alberts contract wasn’t as terrible as it seems. And the shift implementation and injuries absolutely destroyed the 2nd half of his career. Im surprised the Josh Hamilton contract wasnt on the list
Between Don Stanhouse and Trevor Bauer, I don’t which was the Dodgers worst Free Agent Signing. The Angels Worst Free Agent Signing: Mo Vaughn or Josh Hamilton?
MO Vaughn was a fan favorite in Boston but had a fued with the GM broke hearts and left to spite the fans... Got hurt in his first game in California. If he stayed in Boston he would have played longer but we probably wouldn't have gotten David Ortiz
As a Cubs fan, I disagree with those calling Jason Heyward’s contract the worst. Heyward has been a disappointment overall, but his production has been good, his defense has been excellent, and his leadership skills helped them win the 2016 World Series. Now, you want to talk about bad contracts? How about Milton Bradley and Todd Hundley? Both of them sucked as teammates and as baseball players with the Cubs.
By far the Red Sox sign the worst contracts 1.Carl Crawford 7 years $142,000,000 2.David Price 7 years $217,000,000 3.Pablo Sandoval 5 years $95,000,000 LOL 😂 THE BIG PANDA!!
I don't think Pujols contract is a bust.. Yea he was hurt but I see compare his numbers to harpers when he entered the league there the same. Can't compare the two but if harper is underrated then Pujols is too.
The Sox signing the Panda was a bad deal and we the fans knew it from the start 1st it made no sense he wasn't a good hitter or fielder. Yeah he hit in the playoffs but during the regular season not so much. We didn't need a 3rd base men we need an ace. It was awful from day one and it never made sense on top of that we also got Hensley Rameriz... To play left field? That also sucked
@@everettkalafatis1005 Yes. Atlanta finished second in ‘84 and had a good team, but the signing of Sutter was expected to get them into the playoffs. The Cardinals were expected to finish fourth and wound up making the World Series.
@@Sweetish_Jeff_ In 1984 ATL under-performed and had some injuries (esp. Horner). What would have given ATL a chance to make the playoffs would have been if they had kept Brett Butler and Brook Jacoby. I should also mention the value of closers are massively overrated in general and the 85 Dodgers were no slouch.
This suffers from recency bias. After all, Wayne Garland received a 10-year, $2.1 million contract to leave the Baltimore Orioles for Cleveland. While that doesn't sound like much, realize that this occurred in the 1976 offseason when few players even received $100,000/year. They released him in 1981, but still owed him five years on the contract. Similarly, the Kansas City Royals signed Mark Davis and Storm Davis to contracts after the 1989 season. Neither of them amounted to anything. Also, Kevin Brown received a 7-year, $105 million contract after the 1998 season which made him at one point the highest paid pitcher in baseball despite being an average pitcher at best.
I really don’t see how he was a bad signing. A bit of an overpay, no question. But in the 3 seasons he was with the dodgers during that deal he had an .842 ops with a 135 OPS+. Don’t think the contract was bad, just the length was wayyyy too long.
How can this list omit Jason Heyward? He's the number one reason the Cubs didn't repeat and the reason they didn't offer market value contracts to their actual stars.
Some Dudes just lose that mindset of striving for it , even if they’re already $Millionaires They can still keep that feeling that they can lose it all in an Instant, so they have that focus that they’re not going to fail because their family is going to eat & live a good life But then when they achieve that mega $ they start to play not to let the team and the public down & that’s totally different than not letting your family down When You know your family is set for @ least a couple generations, well that’s when it can become really hard to actually keep the right mindset to play ball not to lose the means of a great lively hood. After that now what ? Play to Win ? You’ve already Won.
Well, I'm sure there are many other worse contracts ever but J. Haward's current contract with the Cubs has to go down as not just one of the franchises worse but one of MLB's all-time worse. Look at the numbers,, they are horrible.
That Chris Davis deal set the O's back a decade and forced them into a complete tear down and rebuild. They haven't signed a single player to a big deal since and probably won't again for several years. Their ownership was already cheap, now they'll never hand out that kind of money again.
Nothing you said is true lol
@@BashBroJoe how so? They're all pretty basic facts with well-founded speculation. I doubt they'll ever hand out another 140+ mil contract to anybody in the near future with this ownership. The soonest would probably be Adley Rutchman if he turns into a superstar. But that's about 7 years out.
While I agree that the Chris Davis contract hurt the O's a lot, it was actually an extension and not a free agent signing.
@@CanePunisher I think he was set to become a free agent at the end of the season. It's still the worst extension of all time though. lol
Chris Davis was making 23m a year. That can not and will not ever financially cripple a professional baseball franchise. It didn’t force them into a 10 year rebuild. It was a dumb decision because the run of success the Orioles had was clearly over and wasn’t identified quickly enough by previous management. Which brings us to the reason the rebuild has taken so long. Terrible trades. Could of traded a season or even season and half for both Britton and Machado and received a Kings ransom for either one at the time and Instead they waited until the last minute and got penny’s on the dollar in return. Duquette and McPhail (before) left the O’s with zero farm system. Zero organizational depth. Zero culture outside of the Major League Level (all culture that existed thanks to Buck). One analytics employee existed under those regimes lol Elias and Sig have revamped the entire system. They have taken the Orioles from bottom farm to top farm. Coaches have been hired that follow a organizational philosophy and teach it from the bus leagues to the pros. The analytics department has been thoroughly invested in. So while you say the owner is cheap I say after 30 years of ownership they are finally getting smart. And they aren’t actually that cheap. Check payrolls over the years since Angelos took over. When the Orioles have something going money gets spent. And unfortunately until the Elias regime (excluding the Pat Gillick era which was tremendous) began they would typically add big free agents to shitty teams which does nothing but sell a few tickets (see Belle and Tejada). They will certainly spend money again. Maybe not 300m to a player over 10 years but I wouldn’t do that either. No one talks foul of the Rays because they win. I’m trusting the process. I’m excited for what’s being built. And with the new found organizational depth and a typical mid level payroll (which they’ve carried as recently as 2015) when the times right the Orioles could be very good for very long. You were right about the Orioles not signing a single player to a big contract since. But who would you of signed? This rebuild was way bigger than the MLB level unfortunately. But fortunately for Orioles fans the MLB level should be the main focus going forward. The hard part appears to be over.
Bobby Bonilla was a bad free agent signing for the Mets in 1999, based mostly on the insane deferment plan they put him on. The Mets are having to pay Bonilla nearly $1.2 million dollars per year until the year 2035. In all, the Mets are paying Bonilla $30 million for 60 games he played for them in 1999 - where he hit .160 with a .277 OBP and .303 SLG with 4 home runs and 18 RBI.
it was 1992 when he signed
then he got traded to Baltimore
won a World Series with the Marlins
then became a Met again and Bernie Madoff worked his magic
@@thedude3065 The Jason Bay signing was much worse
We have a day to celebrate the day he gets paid.
Yeah it was bad, but he did post a .270/.356/.495 128 OPS+ in his entire Mets tenure. There have been far, far worse.
@@greatloverofmusic1 Bonilla was already paid close to $19 million for those three good seasons with the Mets and was the highest paid player in baseball. That separate contract was a decent deal. The subject was about specific contracts, not the entire career of a player. The bad contract in question was the one season deal in 1999 which ballooned with deferment and interest, averaging out to being paid $500,000 per game to post those horrible stats in 60 games. Paying a half million dollars per game for a 49 OPS+ player is ridiculous.
The funniest thing to me is the Mets releasing Bobby Bonilla in 1999 allowed them to trade for Mike Hampton. When he left to sign with the Rockies in 2000 the Mets got a compensatory draft pick and they used that pick on David Wright
As a Cub Fan, he was in the right place at the right time in 2016 to give that motivation speech during the rain delay. He also is a premier defender, but Jason Heywards bat is seriously lacking. Love the guy for what he gave us in '16, but still overall not a great signing.
Absolutely
I’m seeing a lot of people mentioning the Jason Bay Mets signing. My list heavily factored the difference in value/total contract. Bay definitely had a big difference, but the players on this list had bigger differences. Also, Josh Hamilton slipped my mind. My potato brain fails again.
P.S. I left Heyward off for a few reasons. Sure it hasn’t been a great contract, but he helped win a World Series, and provided decent production from 2018-20.
Adam Dunn White Sox should have been on imo
The problem with long term contracts is that the players who get 5+year contracts is that the player is generally past his prime.
Bingo on Josh Hamilton, the Angels also blew money on Gary Matthews, Jr and before a single game he got caught in a steroids investigation and was ok in season 1, then hot garbage after that
Carl Pavano absolutely should've been on this list. Ryan Howard too
@@Roseclan24 Pavano was awful with the Yankees.
I was at fenway gift shop with my son they where selling game used pats big Papis bat was broken couple of other players bat's where all scuffed up... Carl Crawfords bat was like brand new lol
I don’t get it sorry does it have something to do with the vid Bc I haven’t watched it yet
@@Johnson-The-IIV you read the comments 1st? Why?
@@danbartolini27 idk I’m weird
@@Johnson-The-IIV fair enough
@@Johnson-The-IIV did you watch it? Now do you get it?
Josh Hamilton and Jason Heyward really need to be on this list.
I left Heyward off because he helped win a World Series and has performed ok a couple years, but Hamilton has an argument to be here
Ahh Heyward I knew there was an obvious one I was missing with my list. Funny thing was those of us that believe more in traditional stats saw Heyward as just an ok player. It was the sabrermetricians that were in love with him. Ten years before his signing he wouldn’t have seen half that contract. He was the best example of doing a lot of small things well and nothing great (except for his RF defense but is anyone going to give Gallo a similar contract because his defense is on par with Heyward’s?)
Corey seager will be on this list soon. He just recently signed a 10 year, 325 million contract with TX. He's always injured and he has never hit 30 home runs in a season.
He also hits for average, gets on base, and has never had a season with less than 100ops+
Correa may be on the list too depending on the contract he gets
@@fries5849 Correa is way too good and his bat will continue to play for years to come.
@@rkelly-h7i Hits for average? Seager is no Ichiro. Only has had 1 year in his career with no injuries. This guys will be the next JD Drew, Rangers will be unloading faster than ARoids
@@edgarlopez2617 his career average is .300. Ichiros career average is .311. Not much of a difference and seagers only been in the league for 6 or 7 years
Justin Upton 5yr - 106 million sure was a gem of a contract
Good call.
BJ Upton WAS WAYYYYYY WORSE
@@Blitzballers3 You're right. I got them confused.
You’re a prince among men Robbie! You totally saved this Braves fan the pain of reliving the pain of the BJ Upton signing. I would've included that one. I’m waiting on the 10 best, and worst, trades.
That was a bad one huh?! I love our new GM he seems to pretty much only make good trades and sign good contracts lol
Yeah man. AA is on top of things. If he'll remember that Freddie chose to stay for the rebuild and quit sweating the guy over a year, we'd be at set, after the the lockout.
Pujols gets a bad wrap, or at least worse than deserved. Expand his average season during the 2nd act of his career over his entire career, and he is still a candidate for the hall of fame. And a certain lock in the Angels hall of fame. The best example is that 82 RBI over his 21 seasons would still put him in the top 25 all time, ahead of "lock" hall of famers Reggie Jackson, Jim Thome and Cal Ripken Jr - all of whom played 21 or 22 seasons.
Obviously his Angels years aren't monster numbers and his average went down but he still had a lot of good years with homers and RBIs
Carl Pavano should have been on there, the dude was nothing but shit for the Yankees and hardly played
I remember that Hampton contract.....I still think he could have learned to play 1B and hit. He could rake for a pitcher.
Never understood why cashman gave Ellsbury so much money. Especially when he and Brett Gardner were basically the same player. Plus we also signed Carlos Beltran that same offseason and already had ichiro on the roster.
The Yankees went downhill after 2001 when they lost character guys like O’Neill, Tino, and Brosius and went after superstars. They also didn’t have the pitching they had from 1996-2001. I think they became fixated on eye candy. Today, the Yankees are a one-dimensional offense. All they do is hit home runs and strike out. No fundamentals.
@@Sweetish_Jeff_ I fully agree. Plus they’ve also been too right handed hitting oriented. For having the short porch in right and wanting to be a home run hitting team. They didn’t have any regular left handed hitters after didi left and before they traded for Rizzo and Gallo.
Which is why some teams don't want to give long term contracts. Although, we're still seeing players getting big contracts.
But the players that are getting those contracts are way younger than back in the days
@@3verdades832 Who cares. Any player could start to decline at any point in their career regardless of their age. Injuries can also be a factor.
No player should be given more than 4 years guaranteed.
Teams can afford them and the players are more valuable than what they are getting paid. No owner is going broke even with all these contracts, that should tell you something. There is a lot more money involved than people realize
Matt Kemp was injured badly in 2013 and he never fully recovered from that. I wouldn't put his contract in the worst signings
I didn’t get this selection.. josh Hamilton would have been a better selection
Kemp blew out his shoulder and never recovered...was never the same player. Keep an eye on Cody Bellinger next season and see if he can recover.
Worst than Kemp's is gotta be Jason Schmidt and Andrew Jones free agent signings.
I would also add Josh Hamilton’s contract as well. He was a legit beast with the Rangers, especially in 2010 where he had 8.4 fWAR in only 133 games and a 1.044 OPS. He signed with the Angels and was beyond atrocious. It’s incredible how far he fell.
Gary Matthews Jr. turned one good season with the Rangers into a 5 year $50 million dollar deal with the Angels. He quickly got popped for PEDs and was just bad thereafter.
Matt kemp is on here? A list of all time worst, and you didn’t have Josh Hamilton, Vernon Wells, Prince Fielder, Chone Figgins and Hanley Ramirez ? There are many more that are worse than kemps too.. why is he on here ?
as this is a list of worst free agent signings, Vernon Wells does not belong here, as his was a contract extension.
@@RFP15 fair point . I forgot it was a trade and resign
Civilization didn't start after 1990. Any "worst free agent" signings that doesn't include Wayne Garland can't be taken seriously
Kind of like Bravo’s “Top 100 Comedies of All-Time” with none of them being released before 1970.
Sir . . . could you also do a video on the BEST free agent signings ever in terms of a team getting the most “bang for its buck”? IMO . . . the one contract that would have to be on such a “list” would have to be the
Braves signing Greg Maddux in December of 1992 for a 5 year,
28 million dollar contract. For what
Maddux accomplished during that 5-year contract, leading the Braves to playoffs each season, pitching with
a ridiculously minuscule ERA of like 1.31 during that 5-year period, and
helping the Braves win it all in 1995,
all from a guy making just slightly north of 5 mil a season, has got to be
one of the greatest free agent signings in MLB history, if not THE greatest. But, a video from you with such a list would be awesome to watch. Thank you for all your hard
work that goes into making these videos, as well done and professional as they are:)
Pujols may have not continued to live up to it but yeah he definitely deserved it only the Angels can actually be mad about it
Jordan Zimmerman was a Cy young contender his first couple months with the tigers. Then he hurt his arm and never recovered.
Jason Schmidt when he left the Giants and signed with the Dodgers. Signed for 3 years and gave the Dodgers exactly three wins. 15 million per win.
What valuation did Bobby Bonilla have for the 1999 season when he played only 60 games with 49 OPS+?
He will be paid $30 million for that single season contract after all of the deferred payments are made. Worst one season deal.
Bonilla Genius move. Checkmate.
The Chone Figgins contract still gives me a headache
when the Yankees re-signed A-Rod, what a headache
He did win a title in 2009, and Arod was great in 2009, particularly in the postseason. So you have that.
@@hmhm856 no doubt, but with 26 other titles, I don't think he was worth all the troubles and chaos with him. The PEDs, suspensions, awful interviews, war with the fans, causing team divides, feud with Jeter, like this team has done enough winning to give up one title to never have dealt with this jackass
@@DrewRitz I will say this: when Arod opted out of the contract he got with Texas after the 2007 season, the Yankees should not have signed him. Brian Cashman didnt want to sign him either since it didnt make sense from a financial point, since Texas was paying like 10 million of the 25 million per year (so Texas was very happy that Arod opted out, obviously). And many also didnt want Arod back due to all the drama that it was occurring.
I remember that it was Hank and Hal that wanted Arod back, mainly since it was the final year in Yankee Stadium 2 in 2008 and then the first year in Yankee Stadium 3 in 2009, so Yankees wanted to make sure to have buzz and packed houses every game, and they also wanted to celebrate Arod's home run achievements and hit totals (which everything went out the window after it was revealed that he did PED).
You don't go back far enough. Possibly the worst FA signing for the Los Angeles Dodgers was way back in 1980 when they signed starting pitcher Dave Goltz for six seasons for $500,000 a season. The Dodgers would pick up all but $150,000 the California Angels paid after they signed Goltz in 1982. Goltz lasted 2 seasons with the Dodgers before they dropped him after Goltz pitched a total of 3.2 innings in 2 games in April of 1982. After five consecutive seasons in which Goltz had pitched over 200 innings per season, Goltz managed only 171 innings in 1980 and 77 innings in 1981. His WHIP in 1980 was 1.500. His ERA+ in both 1980 and 1981 was 82. It should also be pointed out that Nolan Ryan was also available as a FA when the Dodgers signed Goltz.
I remember when Mike Hampton was a free agent after the 2000 season. He chose between the Rockies and the Cardinals. Being a Cards fan, I thought he would sign here even after knocking us out of the playoffs.
He chose Colorado because of the school system apparently. Opening Day 2001 the Cardinals played the Rockies and Hampton dominated. I remember Peter Gammons gushing... Ah well. I often wonder what would have been had Hampton signed with St. Louis.
I would’ve loved to see Hampton in
a Cards uniform, being a long time
Cards fan myself. However, I have to say, the Cardinals organization did
pretty okay without Hampton from
2000-2014, experiencing a virtual dynasty. But who knows, perhaps if Hampton made the RIGHT decision and signed with the Cards, perhaps he could’ve continued his period of dominance for 4 or 5 more seasons, perhaps even helping to put the Cardinals over the top of the
Astros if they had a Hampton helping
them during the ‘05 NLCS, where
Pujols hit the majestic home run off
of Lidge in Game 5, but ultimately lost
the series because Astro pitching that season was just deeper than the Cards, and the Cards had no answer
for Roy Oswalt, another Cards killer.
Or maybe having Hampton would’ve
helped the Cards beat the D-backs in 2001 in the NLDS against The Big Unit and Curt Schilling, helping them advance to face the Braves in the
NLCS. Who knows? I just know Hampton made the WRONG decision
choosing the Rockies over Dave Duncan and the Cardinals.
Denver is where pitchers go to die, and certainly that is what happened to
Hampton. He was so atrocious in
Denver, the Rockies couldn’t wait
to ship him off to the Braves in
2003, after a horrendous 2 years
at Coors Field where he was a huge
bust, crippling the Rockies financially, who signed him to an 8-year,
120 million dollar contract,
the largest in MLB at that time.
He ended up doing better with
the Braves in ‘03 and ‘04, helping
them make the playoffs both years,
before succumbing to basically a career-ending injury in ‘05, though
he wouldn’t officially retire until
March, 2011, spending his last 6
professional years essentially trying
to recover from Tommy John Surgery,
either on the DL, going on rehab assignments, and pitching in only a smattering of games each season from 2005 - 2010. It’s too bad. The trajectory of his whole career could have been way better had he signed
with the Cardinals in 2000. Historically, only Mike Leake pitched
worse in a Redbird uniform than he did
elsewhere in his career. All other pitchers that came to St. Louis via free agency (or trades) were made better
in St. Louis during Dave Duncan’s tenure, or at least enjoyed a certain
level of success that they didn’t
achieve prior to pitching for the Cardinals.
Jason Heyward
Oh God Yes....lol
Still is lol
J Hey was my favorite Brave as a kid it sucks to see his horrific decline
He’s the single worst free agent signing in MLB history, period.
Wrong. His leadership skills and his defense helped the Cubs win it all in 2016. Milton Bradley and Todd Hundley were much worse.
Chris Davis didn’t really prevent the orioles from doing anything in the playoffs. They were never gonna figure out the pitching. But I’m glad you mentioned what he did in the community bc he really set out to make it feel like he felt welcome after leaving Texas. He did do amazing things and after those were finished he was a gentleman about playing less and never complained once about the city or team. Also baltimore was never not (double negative I know) going to give him that contract, he was without questioning worth it at that time.
I’m a Phillies fan and even thought he’s one of my favorite players of all time, Ryan Howard should definitely be on this list somewhere. Couldn’t make adjustments to the shift and those injuries sucked.
I’m completely with you, but I think the Ryan Howard situation was technically a contract extension. I think he signed the extension before his original contract was done, but I could be wrong. Really wish he could have avoided that injury in the NLDS
@@reidpreston2784 Actually I think you’re totally right. It was a pretty large extension. Good catch.
Why isn't Bryce Harper on this list?
@@vintage_85 Probably because he just won NL MVP?
@@vintage_85 I’m a Mets fan and Bryce Harper is good. He used to get compared to Mike trout and he’s obviously an inferior player, but he’s still a top 10 outfielder in the NL
Bad for Teams.. Great for players.. left them all Multi Millionaires!!
Josh Hamilton? Gary Matthews Jr? Vernon Wells? Justin Upton?
The Orioles signed Davis knowing that in 2014 he had a .196/.300/.404 season over 127 games. The signs were there that he was going to decline massively ala Ryan Howard.
Was the Angel's signing of Mo Vaughn bad? I really can't rememeber lol
Best joke I ever heard was one time I was visiting Colorado with a friend. We’re both big sports guys and we’re drinking in a bar in Denver watching the Rockies game talking about that teams short but fun history. We’ll long story short one guy we were talking too goes “I’m convinced the Rockies signed mike Hampton due to his hitting ability. Him being able to pitch at an average rate was just a bonus” 😂😂😂
Worst signings of the 2010s seems like. Worst ever? Curt Flood (look it up). Second worst is a toss-up between Bobby Bonilla and Steve Kemp.
I’d be more surprised if free agent signings ended up being more than they were worth, to me it always seemed like a lot of players were getting what they should have been worth before being free agent elligible
3 words
Ronald. Acuña. Junior.
Just subbed. Happy New Year.
Vernon Wells of Toronto Jays should be on the Dishonorable Mention. Monster early career until he signed the big paycheck.
this was actually so enjoyable for me for whatever combination of reasons, insta subscribe!
Much appreciated good sir!
Matt Kemp also dated Rihanna in 2011 so you can add that to his accolades.
Rusney Castillo didn't get cut in 2016. He stayed with the team until 2020, but the Red Sox kept him off their 40 man because if they released him or put him on the 40 man his contract would count towards the luxury tax. So the Red Sox paid him $10+ million a year to be a triple a player.
Matt Kemp injured himself in 2012, he was on pace for a better season than 2011; crashed into a wall and that lead shoulder was never the same.
Seeing Albert on this list hurts. We miss him in St. Louis.
May I add a couple of contenders to be worst free agent signings of all time, both by the Cleveland Indians: Nick Swisher, a very average player during his career, who managed to get the Tribe to negotiate against themselves (no one else wanted him but the offer kept going up) for a contract that paid him more than $13M a year and Keith Hernandez, a washed up former star whose only true interest in the Indians was cashing the $1.7M in paychecks they gave him for around a quarter of the season.
Pablo Sandoval in Boston was really bad. Sent back to San Francisco where he was actually better again. Goes to show, sometimes leaving one team for another isn't always a good thing.
Low-key bad one is the Braves signing BJ Upton after 2012 to what I think was the largest contract in their history: five years, $75.25 million. He would have been okay had he kept doing what he had been doing. But he just imploded, hitting .184/.268/.289 that first year. That line is legit one of the worst for a center fielder in history, even in the crazy 19th century days.
15:42 - Albert would go on to return to form as a Dodger and had a damn fine last season as a St Louis Cardinal
Kemp never had an ops under 100 for that 8 years.. 20 per year is nothing even for 2011-2018. Considering Hamilton. Fielder. Howard were all in that same era
As a Dodger fan, I can give you two WORST free agents signings than the Kemp. Kemp was a beast when the Dodgers signed him. Jason Schmidt, we signed him to a 3 year 47mil contract, barely pitched total record of 3-6, 6.01 era. And Andrew Jones, he was still an allstar with Atlanta and came here and forgot how to hit. 2 years 36 mil
Dodgers sign Jason Schmidt. I think they got 3 wins out of him before he broke down.
Still dont understand what the hell Boston was thinking with Sandoval. He had been an above average hitter at best and was a below average defender. Hanley wasn't great either but that at least made sense and he had some solid years.
The Carl Crawford one made even less sense given Ellsbury was pretty much the same player Crawford was except without as much power.
I'm a diehard Rays fan, we loved Crawford during his time with us in Tampa Bay. Hopefully he can make the hall of fame. Probably not but I hope the Rays eventually retire his number.
Matt Kemp should not be on this list, as he was not a free agent signing. He signed an extension on his previous deal, and he did not change teams as a result.
I'd also question whether the Cuban signings you listed should be in the same category as neither had MLB experience prior to the signings. They are more akin to a poor draft pick.
Don Stanhouse was the Dodgers worst Free Agent Signing after the 1979 Season.
Respectfully disagree, Jason Schmidt. Dodgers career stats 3-6 6.10 era, 47mil for 3 years.
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Who was Jason Schmidt? And do you know who Don Stanhouse was?
Lol, Jason Schmidt was the ace of the SF Giants, was Colletti's first signing when he became our GM. Dan Stanhouse, with all due respect was a journeyman pitcher. It would have been like if we signed Sutton, or Happy Hooten and they stunk up the place and retired. I doubt Stsnhouse was that caliber of a pitcher
@@edgarlopez2617
Don Stanhouse had a World Series like no other the year before, even though his Orioles lost to the Pittsburgh Pirates in Game 7 at Baltimore.
@@Jiltedin2007 Then it was good we didnt count on him to be our set closer, Howe filled that role nicely. 3x Allstar and CY runner up, Jason Schmidt was signed to be our ace and start a new chapter. I doubt Stanhouse was signed with the same intent.
Alberts contract wasn’t as terrible as it seems. And the shift implementation and injuries absolutely destroyed the 2nd half of his career. Im surprised the Josh Hamilton contract wasnt on the list
Between Don Stanhouse and Trevor Bauer, I don’t which was the Dodgers worst Free Agent Signing.
The Angels Worst Free Agent Signing:
Mo Vaughn or Josh Hamilton?
MO Vaughn was a fan favorite in Boston but had a fued with the GM broke hearts and left to spite the fans... Got hurt in his first game in California. If he stayed in Boston he would have played longer but we probably wouldn't have gotten David Ortiz
Albert the min he went to the Dodgers he was his old self!
Against lefties
I was expecting Hosmer to be on the list
I thought about it, but I would like to see if he can turn things around.
As a Cubs fan, I disagree with those calling Jason Heyward’s contract the worst. Heyward has been a disappointment overall, but his production has been good, his defense has been excellent, and his leadership skills helped them win the 2016 World Series. Now, you want to talk about bad contracts? How about Milton Bradley and Todd Hundley? Both of them sucked as teammates and as baseball players with the Cubs.
Agreed!
By far the Red Sox sign the worst contracts
1.Carl Crawford 7 years $142,000,000
2.David Price 7 years $217,000,000
3.Pablo Sandoval 5 years $95,000,000
LOL 😂 THE BIG PANDA!!
I don't think Pujols contract is a bust.. Yea he was hurt but I see compare his numbers to harpers when he entered the league there the same. Can't compare the two but if harper is underrated then Pujols is too.
The Sox signing the Panda was a bad deal and we the fans knew it from the start 1st it made no sense he wasn't a good hitter or fielder. Yeah he hit in the playoffs but during the regular season not so much. We didn't need a 3rd base men we need an ace. It was awful from day one and it never made sense on top of that we also got Hensley Rameriz... To play left field? That also sucked
What about Hanley? Or Jason Bay?
Albert Pujols was WAY older when he signed with the Cards...
I loved when Pujols was picked up by my Dodgers. He looked relaxed and as if he enjoyed baseball again. I wish him well in retirement!
Albert destroyed his legacy by leaving St. Louis, he was never and has never been the same
As a Braves fan, I would have to say Bruce Sutter.
Yes. Most magazines in 1985 predicted the Braves would win the NL West. They went 66-96 and it was the beginning of a 5-year stretch of losing.
Over the Padres?
@@everettkalafatis1005 Yes. Atlanta finished second in ‘84 and had a good team, but the signing of Sutter was expected to get them into the playoffs. The Cardinals were expected to finish fourth and wound up making the World Series.
@@Sweetish_Jeff_ In 1984 ATL under-performed and had some injuries (esp. Horner). What would have given ATL a chance to make the playoffs would have been if they had kept Brett Butler and Brook Jacoby. I should also mention the value of closers are massively overrated in general and the 85 Dodgers were no slouch.
Mo Vaughn
Bobby Bonilla
Yoenis cespeses
Trevor bauer
Honestly the fact that Jason Heyward’s contract with the Cubs is left off this list is a tragedy.
Being a big part of a World Series championship for the first time since 1908 is a tragedy?
@@rhyde 23 million a year for a player with a good glove and a very average OPS at best… yeah that’s a bad contract.
What about Josh Hamilton?
This suffers from recency bias.
After all, Wayne Garland received a 10-year, $2.1 million contract to leave the Baltimore Orioles for Cleveland. While that doesn't sound like much, realize that this occurred in the 1976 offseason when few players even received $100,000/year. They released him in 1981, but still owed him five years on the contract.
Similarly, the Kansas City Royals signed Mark Davis and Storm Davis to contracts after the 1989 season. Neither of them amounted to anything.
Also, Kevin Brown received a 7-year, $105 million contract after the 1998 season which made him at one point the highest paid pitcher in baseball despite being an average pitcher at best.
Pawtucket Legend Rusney Castillo
Could have put a few Yankees up there
I really don’t see how he was a bad signing. A bit of an overpay, no question. But in the 3 seasons he was with the dodgers during that deal he had an .842 ops with a 135 OPS+. Don’t think the contract was bad, just the length was wayyyy too long.
Matt Kemp*^^^
Carl Pavano for the Yankees springs to mind. OK it was a shorter contract but 40 million for 4 years and a 0.4 total WAR was garbage
I think because Pavano's Yankee contract was famous based on injury and not on performance, it doesnt make the list.
Jason Giambi's Yankees contract was a bad one i remember him being #1 on espn's top bad contracts
Too many redsoxs. Didn’t put Jason bay with Mets. Josh Hamilton
Betcha Max Scherzer would've ended up on this list. No shot he remains as good as he's been as old as he is
We shall see:) I tend to agree with u, though.
What about Johan Santana for the Mets?
Pains me seeing #1 I got this man’s autograph ☹️
luv the Gear bro GO SOX!!!!
Why the hell did the Red Sox sign Pablo Sandoval? The guy has NEVER had working ethics and yet he got that immense contract.
yoenis cespedes was a really bad one too
You can also debate that the Mets Santana contact was bad.
How can this list omit Jason Heyward? He's the number one reason the Cubs didn't repeat and the reason they didn't offer market value contracts to their actual stars.
He helped win a World Series.
How does the NYY Carl Pavano signing not make the list?
And to think, the Red Sox wanted him too!
@@rhyde the red Sox traded him to the expos for Pedro Martinez
And they had Jason Bey and tried to resign him too
And they tried to re sign MO Vaughn and Elsbury seems like the Sox where on the trail of most of the worst free agents in the last 25 years
Could fill this up just using the Mets over the last 20 years
These players as soon as they get the money they're set for life and they don't produce because they don't care.
Orioles signing Albert Belle???
Pujols or Hamilton probably the worst
B.J.Upton! (Sorry, Melvin.) Jason Heyward.
Shin Soo Choo with the Rangers. 7 years, $116 million
No, he was actually pretty decent. Didnt live up to the contract, but not even close to one of the worst contracts ever
Some Dudes just lose that mindset of striving for it , even if they’re already $Millionaires
They can still keep that feeling that they can lose it all in an Instant, so they have that focus that they’re not going to fail because their family is going to eat & live a good life
But then when they achieve that mega $ they start to play not to let the team and the public down
& that’s totally different than not letting your family down
When You know your family is set for @ least a couple generations, well that’s when it can become really hard to actually keep the right mindset to play ball not to lose the means of a great lively hood.
After that now what ? Play to Win ? You’ve already Won.
Well, I'm sure there are many other worse contracts ever but J. Haward's current contract with the Cubs has to go down as not just one of the franchises worse but one of MLB's all-time worse. Look at the numbers,, they are horrible.
Not a good contract at all, but the fact that he’s been a clubhouse leader and helped win a World Series makes it a little better.
That year Braun cheated out Matt Kemp 🤦🏻♂️ still messed up
Chris Davis is number one to me. He single handedly ruined a successful rebuild, and it may lead to the organization leaving Baltimore.
@@peterf.229 stole the browns lol. You obviously live in Cleveland. I’ll bet you think Deshaun is innocent too lol
No Josh Hamilton or CJ Wilson?
Read the pinned comment.