Solving x^(x+3)=1

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
  • How to solve an interesting equation x^(x+3)=1?
    #math #algebra

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  • @bprpmathbasics
    @bprpmathbasics  Месяц назад +74

    Check:
    x=1
    1^(1+3)=1^4=1 ✅
    x=-3
    (-3)^(-3+3)=(-3)^0=1 ✅
    x=-1
    (-1)^(-1+3)=(-1)^2=1 ✅

  • @nicolastorres147
    @nicolastorres147 Месяц назад +73

    Now solve it in the complex world 😁

    • @jemandanderes7075
      @jemandanderes7075 Месяц назад +11

      Honestly this is what I expected to happen.

    • @OrdinarySonicfanMmKay
      @OrdinarySonicfanMmKay Месяц назад +2

      ​@@jemandanderes7075you shouldn't, this is the math basics channel

    • @fsponj
      @fsponj 25 дней назад

      ​@@jemandanderes7075Same

  • @ytsimontng
    @ytsimontng Месяц назад +81

    Take ln on both sides
    (x+3)ln|x|=0
    x=-3 or x=+-1

    • @randy-x
      @randy-x Месяц назад +3

      That's what I thought too

    • @Sglagoomio
      @Sglagoomio Месяц назад +1

      How do you turn the = 1 into a |x|?

    • @jamiewalker329
      @jamiewalker329 Месяц назад +2

      @@Sglagoomio The complex logarithm is logz = log|z| + i(argz + 2*pi*n). He's just taking the real part.

    • @lawrencejelsma8118
      @lawrencejelsma8118 Месяц назад

      I like your method way of turning a single thought in base to a power to a product of two entities in taking the logarithm on both sides mathematical manipulation. Someone in the comments clarified why any base to an "even integer power" of case 3 to add as left and right side of the given equation mathematics manipulation to cleverly find the method 3 in the video solution without thinking extra about the "even powers of even or odd integer bases" trick by:
      Start with the given: x^(x + 3) = 1
      Instead of taking log() in both sides instead multiply by "x" on both sides to get the equation x^(x + 4) = x. You can then use that newly formed equivalent equation for negative x where log(negative x) are not defined in real numbers that include negative numbers. ...
      Running through negative x values other than (-3)^(1) = -3 result found in second method of the video x + 3 = 0, the newly formed x^(x + 4) = x newly equivalent equation shows (-1)^(-1 + 4) = (-1)^3 = (-1) result in the substitution of x = -1 in case (-1)^(-1 + 3) not equal to (-1) but (+1) was mote confusing (or the lost train of mental thoughts of any even or odd integer to an even power is a positive integer result).

    • @ytsimontng
      @ytsimontng Месяц назад +3

      @@Sglagoomio
      It's not the 1 that turns into |x|
      ln(|x|^(x+3))=ln(1)
      (x+3)ln|x|=0
      You might ask why I introduced the | | here. Compare it with solving an even power equation like x^2=16 with logs

  • @cyrusyeung8096
    @cyrusyeung8096 Месяц назад +37

    Solution to all 3 questions
    Q1.
    Case 1: base is 1
    x + 2 = 1
    ⇒ x = -1
    Case 2: exponent is 0 and base is non-zero
    exponent = x + 3 = 0
    ⇒ x = -3
    base = -3 + 2 = -1 ≠ 0
    Case 3: base is -1 and exponent is even
    base = x + 2 = -1
    ⇒ x = -3
    exponent = -3 + 3 = 0
    , which is even
    Therefore, x = -1 or -3
    Q.2
    base = x + 2 = -1
    ⇒ x = -3
    exponent = -3 + 3 = 0
    , which is NOT odd
    Therefore, no real root.
    Q.3
    base = x + 2 = 0
    ⇒ x = -2
    exponent = -2 + 3 = 1 ≠ 0
    Therefore, x = -2

    • @Ninja20704
      @Ninja20704 Месяц назад +6

      For qn 3 you have to state that the power is positive, not just non-zero. Because 0^neg is undefined.
      But otherwise very nice solutions.

    • @cyrusyeung8096
      @cyrusyeung8096 Месяц назад +1

      @@Ninja20704 I forgot that 1/0 etc. is undefined. Thank you.

    • @cristinacu2286
      @cristinacu2286 Месяц назад

      Nice 👍

  • @MassiveMinorityMuncher-P.O.P
    @MassiveMinorityMuncher-P.O.P Месяц назад +38

    You say pause the vid as if I understand anything, thank you

  • @pedropiata648
    @pedropiata648 Месяц назад +8

    Me (who tried to use Lambert W funcion) 🤡

  • @monkey6114
    @monkey6114 Месяц назад +6

    Q:1
    X=-1(base=1)
    X=-3(0 exponent)
    Base=-1 would give us -3 as solution too so there are only 2 solutions
    Q:2
    A exponent can only be -1 if the base is -1 and it's expoenent is odd so we would get x=-3 for base 1 but that would give us exponenet of 0 which is even so there is no solution
    Q:3
    A exponenet can be equal to 0 only if the base is 0 so we would get x=-2

  • @mons6975
    @mons6975 Месяц назад +4

    Could you please go over an explanation for Q2 using Euler's method?

  • @Wmann
    @Wmann Месяц назад +4

    For some reason I did this in my head by using the natural log and stuff, but I did manage to get -3 and 1.
    I then looked at it again and knew I didn’t need that at all. At least I did it in my head :P

  • @DriftinVr
    @DriftinVr Месяц назад +3

    For the case 2 I got it by doing *x to both sides to get x^(x+3+1)=x^1 which same bases so it's x+4=1 which with basic algebra it goes to x=-3

    • @lawrencejelsma8118
      @lawrencejelsma8118 Месяц назад +1

      That way was close to proving case 3 anything to an even power is positive. So if x^(x + 3) = 1 was figured out in cases 1 as +1 to any power odd or even (since +1 is an odd integer then 1 + 3 = 4 is an even integer) ... and 2 of odd integers -3 and 1 raised to an even power themselves, respectively. We are still missing one other odd integer raised to an even power from the negative integers after the x + 3 = 0 solution giving x = -3 of (-1)^(2) one of case 3! ...
      Then you were starting to show case 3 proof by multiplying both equation sides by x to get x^(x + 3) times x = 1 times x ... Or ... x^(x + 4) = x that would have shown his case 3 result (-1)^(-1 + 4) = (-1) parallel to saying any integer positive or negative to an even integer power is a positive integer result! Good try! 👍

  • @johnathanpatrick6118
    @johnathanpatrick6118 Месяц назад +5

    That's the bprp I wanna see, he gave us summer homework. 🤣🤣

  • @aymantimjicht173
    @aymantimjicht173 Месяц назад +1

    An other solution using log function we use the absolut value to have the function defind in R
    (X+3) log(|X|) = 0 => X+3 = 0 => x = -3 or X = 1 or X = -1 (because X+3 is even)

    • @umar5834
      @umar5834 6 дней назад

      That’s how I was thinking but forgot about the absolute value so just got positive 1. Looks right but the reasoning behind x=1 and x=-1 as solutions is because it makes ln|x| equal zero not because x+3 is even. Well I guess it’s true both ways but it definitely makes the natural log function zero.

  • @ruben2019
    @ruben2019 Месяц назад +3

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      @thebirchtemple8873 Месяц назад

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  • @michaelsharpe4217
    @michaelsharpe4217 Месяц назад +1

    He is a great teacher

  • @specialforce8486
    @specialforce8486 Месяц назад

    Just a quick question to the wonderful admin or anyone who reads this.
    If I start learning maths from grade 10(other than previous grades), will I know enough to attempt engineering entrance exams?
    Like the examples above and so on?
    Thanks

  • @iAzazelHD
    @iAzazelHD Месяц назад

    Hellooooo. Hadnt u uploaded a video of P(x) ^ Q(x) = 1 back in the past? Where solutions where 2 3 4 5 6 7 and wolfram alpha was missing 2 of them? Pls, if i am right, could you link it? I cant find it :(

  • @Brid727
    @Brid727 Месяц назад +16

    solution to Q1:
    case 1:
    1 to the power of any number is 1
    so x+2 = 1
    x = -2+1 = -1
    case 2:
    any number to the zeroth power is 1, so x+3=0
    therefore, x = -3
    case 3:
    (-1)^even is 1, so lets put x+2=-1
    so, x = -1-2 = -3
    wait...no nevermind let's keep going
    the exponent will be -3+3=0
    so, (-1)^0 = 1? TRUE
    since the solution to case 2 and 3 are the same, I will only write it once
    so finally, x = (-1,-3)
    solution to Q2:
    (-1)^odd = -1, so we'll let x+2 = -1 => x = -1-2 = -3
    putting that into the original, (-1)^(-3+3) = (-1)^0 = -1? FALSE
    so no real solution
    solution to Q3:
    0 to any positive real number is 0
    so, assuming x+2 = 0, x=-2
    putting that into the original, 0^(-2+3) = 0^1 = 0? TRUE
    so, x=-2

    • @Brid727
      @Brid727 Месяц назад +3

      I just found a more straightaway solution to Q1 using logarithms
      take ln on both sides and bring the power to the front to get (x+3)*ln(x+2) = 0
      x+3 = 0
      x = -3
      ln(x+2) = 0
      x+2 = 1
      x = -2+1 = -1
      so again, x=(-1,-3)
      now I found a flaw in this
      if you do this, you are limiting yourself from ever getting the answer from case 3
      however, I found a solution and it is that you can let the argument be -1 and if x+3 is even, you can bring the power up to the exponent of -1 to get 1 inside the ln and finally get ln(1) = 0
      we are just lucky to have case 2 and 3 yielding the same answer, otherwise we'd have another solution that we would've missed

    • @abhishekpaisme
      @abhishekpaisme Месяц назад

      Nice work man

    • @Otter-jh2zg
      @Otter-jh2zg Месяц назад

      @@Brid727thanks for the easy to understand and great solution, cannot thank you enough

    • @Patrik6920
      @Patrik6920 Месяц назад

      @@Brid727 ..ln(x+2)=0 ... ln(anything)=0 will be undefined,
      ur asking what exponent of '0' makes 'x+3' (since u set it equal to zero), since there exist no real solution its undefined 0^anything=0, 0^0 is undetermined/undefined
      Basicly e^zero=0 (wich has no real solution)
      however..
      ln(x+3)=ln(x)ln(3), ln(3) is close to ln(e)=1[e^1=e] , 1.09... -> 1.09 * X≈0, for practical reasons we can assume the limit x as zero, but as a logarithm ln(zero) is undefined
      ..in case x would be infinitassible small but not zero...

    • @Brid727
      @Brid727 Месяц назад

      @@Patrik6920 ln(1) = 0 laughing in the corner 😂
      also please read what I wrote above and plug x=-1 in and if you have the slightest bit of knowledge in logarithms you'd know that ln(1)=0
      I think you are confusing what I wrote with ln(0) which is clearly NOT what you get for plugging x=-1

  • @KUDIYARASAN-
    @KUDIYARASAN- Месяц назад

    Excellent

  • @Mb-logic2.0
    @Mb-logic2.0 Месяц назад

    Nice video ❤

  • @tejpalsingh366
    @tejpalsingh366 Месяц назад

    3 condition to get 1.
    Any no power 0 is 1
    1 power any no. Is 1
    -1 power even no. Is 1
    So. X= -3; 1;-1 are solns. In sequence.

  • @Verxinn
    @Verxinn Месяц назад

    Why should the exponent in case 1 be finite?

  • @MrPoornakumar
    @MrPoornakumar Месяц назад

    "anything to the power of zero, equals one".
    Thus 1 = x^(x+3) is possible only when
    x+3 = 0/That is x = -3.

  • @acetylsalicylicacid
    @acetylsalicylicacid Месяц назад +1

    I have a question. Is there anyway to solve this without logic? I imagine you could use the Lambert W function in some way, but I don't know how. If any commenter knows, feel free to educate me.

    • @acetylsalicylicacid
      @acetylsalicylicacid Месяц назад +1

      You could do e^((x+3)lnx) = e^0. Then (x+3)lnx = 0 x = -3 and x = 1, but you don't get the third answer.

    • @phiefer3
      @phiefer3 Месяц назад +2

      @@acetylsalicylicacid You do get the third answer, actually. Log is only defined for non-negative arguments, now since x^(x+3) is 1, we know that it's positive, but we do not know whether or not x itself is positive or negative. So when you pull the exponent out front you need to include absolute value signs, so we actually get (x+3)ln|x| = 0, and ln|x|=0 gives us both 1 and -1.

    • @acetylsalicylicacid
      @acetylsalicylicacid Месяц назад +1

      @@phiefer3 Thank you so much! It's strange he didn't go over this method in the video.

  • @user-tc9gu4mm4z
    @user-tc9gu4mm4z Месяц назад

    does x=0 really work if we expand the equation into x^x * x^3 =1 ? Cuz I thought 0^0 is 1 (using limits), and 1*0=0?

  • @lucien346
    @lucien346 Месяц назад

    Other example
    -1 for 1^x rule
    -3 for x^0 rule and (-1)^2n rule

  • @nagolbackwards1335
    @nagolbackwards1335 Месяц назад

    1: x= -1 or -3
    2: couldn’t figure this out lol
    3: x= -2

  • @nexusmas9
    @nexusmas9 Месяц назад +3

    Is it possible to solve using a rule ? Like its easy here since we have ..... = 1

    • @teelo12000
      @teelo12000 Месяц назад

      Probably have to break out the productlog function to prove that one

    • @yttyw8531
      @yttyw8531 Месяц назад

      Just use logs

  • @romanchumachenko6176
    @romanchumachenko6176 Месяц назад +1

    Oh, i solved it by multiplying both sides by X to have X+4=1 and then X, then X=-3

  • @sy8146
    @sy8146 Месяц назад

    My answers of the last 3 questions:
    Q1: x = -1, -3
    Q2: No solutions
    Q3: x = -2

  • @divyamkumar1339
    @divyamkumar1339 Месяц назад

    I dit it with logarithms:
    X^(X + 3) = 1
    (X+3)log(X) = 0
    Either X = -3 or X = 1

  • @engrkingsley6854
    @engrkingsley6854 Месяц назад +1

    For the Assignment
    X = -3 only
    (X+2)^x+3 = 1
    (X+2)^x+3 = (x+2)⁰
    When the base cancels
    X+3 = 0
    Then u make x subject
    X = -3

    • @fifiwoof1969
      @fifiwoof1969 Месяц назад

      X=-1 also works since it makes the base 1
      2nd assignment requires (-1)^odd but for base to be -1 x would be -3 which would make exponent even and therefore not -1.

    • @engrkingsley6854
      @engrkingsley6854 Месяц назад

      @@fifiwoof1969 -1 is not a solution for x in the assignment... U can take ur time and substitute x as -1 in it and see it won't give u 1 as result

    • @fifiwoof1969
      @fifiwoof1969 Месяц назад +1

      @@engrkingsley6854 for the first assignment it DOES work. Take YOUR time.

    • @engrkingsley6854
      @engrkingsley6854 Месяц назад

      @@fifiwoof1969 he already solve Those ones

    • @fifiwoof1969
      @fifiwoof1969 Месяц назад

      ​@@engrkingsley6854 not the questions at the end he didn't - "assignment"

  • @Horizon24129
    @Horizon24129 Месяц назад

    Putting log base x in both sides then simply solving it

  • @aymantimjicht173
    @aymantimjicht173 Месяц назад +2

    0^0 is 1. No one will judge you

    • @lawrencejelsma8118
      @lawrencejelsma8118 Месяц назад

      You won't get the L'Hopitals limit in base "x" to the "x + 3" when x = 0 or x + 3 = 0. In those cases the (0)^(3) is 0. The (-3)^(0) will equal "1" he shows as case #2. ....
      The one your brain was saying as a third solution was instead saying his case #3. We forget any integer base to an even power is a positive number result.

  • @gusta4323
    @gusta4323 26 дней назад

    But the base is > 0 because the power is a real number, not natural anymore.

  • @ahmedrazachuhdary
    @ahmedrazachuhdary Месяц назад

    Q1: x=-1, x=-3
    Q2: no real root
    Q3: x=-2

  • @argonwheatbelly637
    @argonwheatbelly637 Месяц назад

    Jinkies! He gave us homework! 😊

  • @kirillbarkov2
    @kirillbarkov2 Месяц назад

    why the graphs y=x^(x+3) & y=1 has only one intersect x=1?

    • @ytsimontng
      @ytsimontng Месяц назад

      "The graph is dotted" when the base is negative. Plugging in x=-0.5 for example will give the root of a negative number.

  • @its_lucky252
    @its_lucky252 Месяц назад

    -3

  • @user-mv7fx4hn6e
    @user-mv7fx4hn6e Месяц назад +1

    Can you teach me how can I sove this problem, please?
    sqr(a)+sqr(ab)+sqr(abc)=12
    sqr(b)+sqr(bc)+sqr(abc)=21
    sqr(c)+sqr(ac)+sqr(abc)=30
    Find: (a^2 + b^2 + c^2)

  • @OneTrueBadShoe
    @OneTrueBadShoe Месяц назад

    Q1: x= -3,x= -1
    Q2: no solution
    Q3: x= -2

  • @grimanium
    @grimanium Месяц назад

    First Look my guess is x = 1, -1 and -3

  • @JayPon629
    @JayPon629 Месяц назад

    so simple🥱🥱🥱

  • @sebastiangudino9377
    @sebastiangudino9377 Месяц назад

    I would just plug one (Obvious solution) and call it a day lol

  • @diaryofamathkid2708
    @diaryofamathkid2708 7 дней назад

    wrong! Kindly note the function is only defined for x >0.
    thr only solution is x = 1.

  • @thingthingthingthingthingthing
    @thingthingthingthingthingthing 10 дней назад

    X=-3?

  • @oenrn
    @oenrn Месяц назад

    Q1: x = -1 or x = -3
    Q2: no real solution
    Q3: x = -2

  • @jeffkevin3
    @jeffkevin3 8 дней назад

    Quite weird...
    (x+2)^(x+3) = 1 --> x = -3 or -1
    (x+2)^(x+3) = 0 --> x = -2
    (x+2)^(x+3) = -1 --> Oh, no. 4 disgusting complex numbers... Stop this, get some help.
    Those
    ln(-1) = i(pi + 2 k pi)
    stuff has come back...
    (Like
    ln(a+bi)
    = ln(sqrt(a^2+b^2) exp(i atan(b/a)))
    = ln(sqrt(a^2+b^2)) + i atan(b/a)
    and something else...)

  • @lucien346
    @lucien346 Месяц назад

    1 because 1^something = 1
    -1 because (-1)^2n = 1
    And -3 because something^0=1

    • @robertveith6383
      @robertveith6383 Месяц назад

      Your second line is wrong. You need grouping symbols: (-1)^(2n) = 1, for n an integer.

  • @lorinhaaaaaa1728
    @lorinhaaaaaa1728 Месяц назад

    First

  • @tobybartels8426
    @tobybartels8426 Месяц назад +1

    If you want to _avoid_ the debate, then you can't just come out and say that the base can't be 0, because then you get me here in the comments debating it. Say that _maybe_ the base can be 0, we'll come back to it if necessary; solve x+3=0, find that the base is _not_ 0, and now you don't have to deal with it. Everybody's happy, the only real solutions are definitely 1, −1, and −3.

  • @johncarloilagan5931
    @johncarloilagan5931 Месяц назад

    -3