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  • We would like to know the number of real solutions to the exponential equation 8^x+4=4^x+2^(x+2). This question is from the University of Oxford Math Admission Test in 2007. www.maths.ox.ac.uk/system/fil...
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Комментарии • 47

  • @freaze2048
    @freaze2048 Месяц назад +29

    I just looked at the thumbnail and randomly tried to replace x with 0 and with 1 and luckily solving this in like 1 minute (even tho it's not really a good way of justifying saying "it's evident")

    • @jensraab2902
      @jensraab2902 Месяц назад +2

      Yes, can't always rely on luck. Also, you didn't rule out answer d, three solutions, right?

    • @deltalima6703
      @deltalima6703 Месяц назад +1

      Nope might be d. Doubt it. Maybe 10% chance.

    • @freaze2048
      @freaze2048 Месяц назад

      @@jensraab2902 yea i saw answer D but I was just like "it's 50/50 so ill just go with C"

    • @jensraab2902
      @jensraab2902 Месяц назад +1

      @@freaze2048 Fair enough. But this is why I personally think multiple choice questions are a total nonsense in math. I don't know if this is an American thing; I don't think I've ever seen this in a math test in my country.

    • @freaze2048
      @freaze2048 Месяц назад +2

      @@jensraab2902 For my knowledge I've also never seen this type of math test in France

  • @AnAvidAtheist
    @AnAvidAtheist Месяц назад +10

    0:15
    "Try this first."
    *"No."*

  • @Mr.FelixBlazTube
    @Mr.FelixBlazTube Месяц назад +6

    Sir , I am you're big fan from India 🇮🇳 and I love ❤ you're basic mathematics videos
    Sir , can you plss solve this exponential equation ,
    6^(x) - 1 = 4^(x) + 2^(x/2) - 3^(2x)
    Find the " x " and number of solutions for this equation.
    Sir , plsss make a full video on solving this exponential equation
    Lot of love 😘 & support 🫂 from me !!!!!!!!!!

  • @xinpingdonohoe3978
    @xinpingdonohoe3978 Месяц назад +1

    I rearranged terms and factored it.
    4^x (2^x -1)=4(2^x -1)
    Then either 4^x=4, so x=1, or 2^x -1=0, so x=0.

  • @sh4dowchas3r
    @sh4dowchas3r Месяц назад +1

    I bet that is a "Make sure you read the question properly" question.

  • @kacperolak6859
    @kacperolak6859 Месяц назад

    i have turn the equation to be 2^a + 2^b = 2^c + 2^d
    and from that we can have a set of logic statements:
    a = c and b = d
    or
    b = c and a = d
    wich gives the same solution

  • @janda1258
    @janda1258 Месяц назад +1

    I managed to factor it to (4^x - 4)(2^x - 1), giving the two real solutions x=0,1. I realise now that 4^x-4 is a difference of two swuares and can be further factored, but that leads to the non-real solition

    • @DergaZuul
      @DergaZuul Месяц назад

      Well to simplify those are monotonous growing function minus constant in both terms. At most can have one real solution so easily see that one in each term so no need to think of difference of squares. I did almost same way just guessed 0 and 1 in first 15 sec and then justify that no other real solution is possible.

  • @srinivasanperiakaruppan7554
    @srinivasanperiakaruppan7554 Месяц назад

    You can even use logarithm of base 2 to find the answer.

  • @toddstephen8422
    @toddstephen8422 Месяц назад +1

    Another way to explain why 2^x = -2 is not possible as a real number is because the range of the exponential function is (0, infinity).

  • @hritamkashyap
    @hritamkashyap Месяц назад +3

    Sir Please explain limitation of descartes rule of sign

    • @ValentineRogue
      @ValentineRogue Месяц назад +4

      Descartes' rules of signs is that the number of real solutions to a polynomial is equal to the number of sign changes of the polynomial when written in descending degree order or less than that by a multiple of 2. When bprp writes the equation as "t^3-t^2-4t+4=0", there are 2 sign changes, so there can only be 2 or 0 real solutions

  • @WanniGames
    @WanniGames Месяц назад

    another possibility is to realize that t=2^x must be a power of 2, and quickly realise t = 2 is one of the solutions of 2. then do polynomial devision of (x - 2), and find a quadratic that we can solve from that

    • @Nigelfarij
      @Nigelfarij Месяц назад

      Why must x be an integer.

  • @this.is.prasun
    @this.is.prasun Месяц назад

    👍

  • @sinekavi
    @sinekavi Месяц назад +4

    I have a doubt problem......integral of ((1-x^7)^1/4 - (1-x^4)^1/7) can you please solve this BPRP?

    • @Misteribel
      @Misteribel Месяц назад

      What is a doubt problem? Do you mean you doubt whether there's a problem, or you doubt the solution (which you didn't give yet)? Try asking on Math SE perhaps?

    • @Patrik6920
      @Patrik6920 Месяц назад

      Note .. between 0 and 1 the integral must be zero (the only real solution)

    • @sinekavi
      @sinekavi Месяц назад

      @@Misteribel Let me rephrase the question......i have a doubt in that problem

    • @sinekavi
      @sinekavi Месяц назад

      Edit: I want BPRP to solve this problem

    • @Patrik6920
      @Patrik6920 Месяц назад

      @@sinekavi probably be a very long video .. maby he has somewhere u can reach him .. unless he has a cheat up his sleeve .. the solution will be many many pages long...

  • @johnnysallow1813
    @johnnysallow1813 Месяц назад

    I tried solving it by rewriting in terms of powers of 2: 8^x + 4 = 4^x + 2^(x+2)
    2^(3x) + 2^2 = 2^2x + 2^(x + 2). When you solve this, you find that every value of X satisfies the equation. What did I do wrong?

    • @Apollorion
      @Apollorion Месяц назад

      excuse my too quick responses..
      8^x + 4 = 4^x + 2^(x+2) = 2^(3x) + 2^2 = 2^2x + 2^(x + 2)

  • @tglmkyoutube
    @tglmkyoutube Месяц назад +3

    Teacher plz teacher
    Integrity [sinx+sinx tanx + secx]/[sin^2x tan^2x + 2(1+tanx)] dx

    • @anigami01
      @anigami01 Месяц назад

      let me do it
      it seems to be a good exercise for me

    • @tglmkyoutube
      @tglmkyoutube Месяц назад

      @@anigami01 so bro have you finished?

  • @adamoksiuta4715
    @adamoksiuta4715 Месяц назад

    I think t substitution is not necessary. You can factor 2^2x from 2^3x and 2^2x and factor -4 from the rest. You get 2^2x(2^x-1) and -4(2^x-1). Then factor (2^x-1) to get equation (2^2x-4)(2^x-1)=0.

  • @IndiDaddiii
    @IndiDaddiii Месяц назад

    Identity of 'x' ?

  • @neilgerace355
    @neilgerace355 Месяц назад +8

    B and C are both correct. The equation has one real solution. It also has another real solution.

  • @MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo
    @MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo Месяц назад

    Intuitively before watching: This is a cubic in terms of 2^x, so expected to be 3 real solutions, by observation 1 and 0 are solutions, my guess is the third would be 2^x = negative which isn't real, so answer is c

  • @anigami01
    @anigami01 Месяц назад +2

    i put x=0 and x=1 and they satisfied equation and .......

    • @55hzdxlh73
      @55hzdxlh73 Месяц назад +3

      imagine the eqt has 3 roots😂

    • @matta5749
      @matta5749 Месяц назад +5

      that doesnt answer the question. you still need to know how to prove that there are no other solutions, otherwise you're just guessing.

    • @geirmyrvagnes8718
      @geirmyrvagnes8718 Месяц назад +1

      @@matta5749 Eliminating two options on a multiple choice test is helpful, I guess.

    • @jensraab2902
      @jensraab2902 Месяц назад

      @@geirmyrvagnes8718 Is it really? This is Oxford. They want to see that you know what you're doing, not just doing lucky guesswork. 😉

    • @geirmyrvagnes8718
      @geirmyrvagnes8718 Месяц назад

      @@jensraab2902 Getting things roughly right in a fraction of the time? Yeah, maybe not if you are supposed to study mathematics. 😅

  • @inyomansetiasa
    @inyomansetiasa Месяц назад +1

    First