There can never be Justice on stolen land! Here in Australia or United States of robber Barron's and especially Israel. As always much love and respect and appreciation for everything you teach me every week brother Richard 🙏 Peace Equality and Freedom for all....
Thank you Dr Warren. I really like the notion of role rotation in worker co-op. I hope you can come back and talk at length about role rotations. I am glad you are working on this. If every worker co-op insisted on role rotations, every worker would get first-class education in running a business. Thank you Dr Wolff for talking again and again about this. One person, one vote can be very difficult to adhere to.
Yeah, irregardless it depends on who takes the initiative to start the coop. So, a coop entrepreneur that holds the vision can or may have to create a team and create teams to handle specific sections of the coop. The challenge is in creating a constitution that can forsee future internal/external problems and how to solve them. So, maybe 1 man 1 vote can be hard to implement, as members will have to delegate decision making especially in crisis.
Hi, this is Jerome Warren! Thanks for watching and honored to do it again! Rick did say he'd like to have me come on again, so perhaps I can talk some more about sortition (rotation by lottery) Simon Pek is great in that respect. He wrote Chapter 19 of the Handbook on that topic.
@@IanMukewa - Possibly a rotating special committee for clearly defined emergencies? made up of members who've already rotated through all the various sections so they can better understand and implement solutions. Maybe in order to fill that board initially, the first rotations could be somewhat shorter than later. I really wish there could be a land coop for me to join at my age (79). But I'm marooned in remote TinyTown for retirement affordability, and the friend in a major city 250 miles away fell ill just as we were starting to approach the subject. She knows tons of professionals in BigCity, but now that such a project is beyond her, I don't think any coop for us will ever get off the ground. We're all at least somewhat to the left of Bernie Sanders, so that's most of what we'd have in common. But this business of member participation and role rotation is something I could really get behind. As it is though, 'life' marooned in TinyTown - which has included more than a few open, direct death threats and a klan celebration outside my front gate - can feel unbearable at times. I'm a very social person by nature but basically can't even speak to the vast majority of people here. Not even about the weather. They resort to screaming too fast about the least thing or even nothing at all. And I've been asked 3 times in 21 years, "WTH is Bob Dylan?"
We have food coops here. I have been a member for years. Completely different than shopping in a grocery store. It is more intimate and you feel you have a stake in its success and you do. I used to belong also to a nonprofit car share coop. It was great!
A car share!,! Never heard of such a thing. If you don’t have a car here you go straight into another class. Very important to have a car parked out front. Just in case. . .
6:39 These current political leaders do not want persons of substance in awareness, empathy, intellectual prowess, or any sensibilities towards showing and standing for and being fair and humane in the citizen population.
They are presenting the same "emotional appeal" and attempted manipulation as this site does...the only remedy for this is examining the "factual" history, verification of the facts, and then applying logical reasoning and critical though to reach rationally grounded conclusions.
Exactly. For decades, the U.S. has been a corrupt autocratic plutocracy masquerading as a democracy. It's been controlled by the donor class of ultra rich, their corporation and powerful lobbying groups like e.g. AIPAC. The truth is that the U.S. has the best government money can buy & it's working against 90% of the population.
I am encouraged by this scholarship on cooperatives. And I am also devastated by the consequence of democracy that we must endure for the next 4 years and beyond. It would seem it’s not enough to give workers the power if there isn’t also an equal commitment to worker political education.
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."
I happened to catch a response on NPR (which long since hasn't been called National Politburo as originally joked) from a rightwinger political strategist who said she used to run focus groups. And by far the most common question was always "What's an authoritarian?" They don't even know the first thing! They just parrot what they're told to say. For instance I've been called a 'commie fascist' as if such an oxymoron could even exist. They don't know wth they're talking (or often screaming) about.
@@jgalt308 - No, it IS an oxymoron for anyone who cares about definitions and accuracy in general. No 2 systems could be more diametrically opposed. So 'commie fascist' is just as self-negating as 'giant shrimp'. I'm not only well versed in political theory but I'm also a linguist. So if you don't mind, consider not trying to stir the pot. I damn well know what I'm talking about.
@@frostyfrances4700@frostyfrances4700 So, Stalin, Mao, Franco, and Mussolini were not authoritarian? Nor is the CCP? Or is it that you do not know what an authoritarian is?
As with anything else, information is available on any topic you wish to pursue...but like everything else none of you will actually pursue it. The information you get on this site is, therefore, directed at "its agenda,"...and all other information is ignored and omitted. The reality runs counter to the claim of those who claim to be "learning" anything here...as you just did.
The "global movement for cooperatives" is a GREAT idea and a noble ambition. Sadly though, it is "a day late and a dollar short". The usurpation of humanity has already be captured by powerful global individuals who do not give a damn about the Common Good. It is good to be old. I weep for humanity.
“Western modernisation was fraught with crimes such as war, the slave trade, colonisation & plunder, which inflicted untold misery on many countries. Having long suffered from aggression, bullying & humiliation by Western powers, we Chinese are keenly aware of the value of peace & will never follow the well-worn path of the West. The biggest problem with Western modernisation is that it is capital centred rather than people centred & seeks to maximise capital gains rather than serve the interests of the vast majority of people.” Xi Jinping. In the west your only option is a coop.
I worked in a kibbutz for a year and this system failed because people will always be GREEDY!! A new world and new systems can only begin if we all start to work on our issues and heal our pains and start spreading love and compassion. Listen to Gabor Maté❤, a man that gets what is wrong on this planet!
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Thank you Rick and Jerome the sessionsion was appreciated. I first came across a co-op in Failsworth now part of Gtr Manchester in England in the 1950s. It was for the time a biggish shop for a suburb. I was under 10 and all I remember being told was the cooperative society started in Rochdale 10km away and was owned by the locals. I automatically put it in the same box in my young head as Trade Unions which started in Rochdale too. As a banker in my 20s and looking back, I got the impression the powers that were at the time favoured private business who were legal persons, and so much easier to lend to. But I always liked the idea of the co-op. Something down to earth about it.
Why did you grow up to become a banker, please? And what sort? The good Jimmy Stewart kind in 'It's a Wonderful Life' or the other kind in 'Wall Street'?
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As a volunteer in a food growing collective in Scotland, I am interested to hear you both say we need to get educated in management processes. There are running tensions where true collective decision making is frowned on by those who think we need a manager to run things. I for one strongly resist this idea. But we do need to give our volunteers confidence and education. Can we buy that book in uk? Or is there other material you could recommend?
Cooperatives began as a alternative beginning in 1844 with the pionier of Rochdale and they have created a network of alternative economic organization; please dowmload the cooperative monitor..
NZ used cooperative business systems for years, but since 1971, exponential money printing has allowed amalgamation internally and externally to the position of a globalized NZ economy now. NZ needs to go back to cooperatives to share income and wealth more fairly.
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I've been involved inrCooperative Residential Living since 1977. Obviously successful and sustainable, but directly challenges the dominant, Multifamily Housing model, with underpinnings of dependency rather than personal responsibility and community development. HUD has not sponsored a new housing coop in 40 years. Proportedly, Washington state will be the first in 2025.
Just watched your lecture on Marxism from a few years ago. I now understand. Thanks! Co-operatives existed in Australia in the Dairy Industry in the 1960s and 70s.
So much of the co-op venture depends upon education. Education about management can happen in the workplace or community as a matter of culture. I fear that humanity will never get rid of hierarchical systems. Western ideology of rugged individualism will be difficult to overcome. After all, rich people like being rich, and seen as superior in society.
There is no education being offered here...and there is a reason why hierarchical systems exist...but if you have an example of a non-hierarchical human system that actually exists, please share it with us.
@@jgalt308 Don't you promote non-hierarchical mutually beneficial exchange? Or are you dropping the pretense and just acknowledging your advocacy of oligarchy?
For those of us who read and therefore know that we can get the wonderful information you provide 3-5x faster by reading a transcript than by listening or watchng EU. So what will you need to provide transcripts within a day or so after each broadcast as is done by that other fantastic podcast, Ralph Nadeer Radio Hour. I suspect they can also give you some tips even volunteers willing to do this for you, And with modern voice transcription software, all that's necessary is inserting name of speaker and QAing for mistaken words or spellings
I am afraid that would present a major problem for the Professor, as this would also subject all that "wonderful information" to factual verification and the consistency of the message. At the moment, none of that is being undertaken by his rather limited and emotionally manipulated audience but would easily be accessible by utilizing the emerging capabilities LLM models of AI. At the moment, none of them actually remember anything he has said and when confronted by any challenge or questions regarding it, they have the luxury of vaguely alluding to the belief that it has been addressed somewhere and one need only listen to all the available material in order to verify this claim
According to the most recent data from the Democracy at Work Institute, there are approximately 600 identified worker-owned cooperatives in the United States, with an estimated total closer to 1,000 cooperatives when including smaller, less documented ones; these cooperatives employ around 6,000 workers. In October 2024, about 161.5 million people were employed in the United States. 6,000 out of 161.5 million. Wow, that sounds like a real success story. Prof Wolff has taught college level economics for decades to thousands of students and has also been promoting worker coops on RUclips for over a decade. I challenge Prof Wolff to name just one former student or even just one D@W patron who has successfully created a worker coop. Worker coops work very well in theory but obviously not in real life as statistics prove.
As much as Trump has been boasting about 60% tariffs on Chinese goods and 10% on the rest of the imports, one must also keep in mind that this is just his negotiating tactic. A 60% tariff on Chinese imports would damage its economy. But bear in mind that China is also a top buyer of American goods. A weaker Chinese economy would reduce its purchase power and would have a boomeranging effect on the US economy.
At firt the ILO was not a propagator of the cooperative movement at first. PLease do go to the International Cooperative Alliance. In 2014 the G& and B20 atmitted that beside the capitalist system is another economic system that has thrived better than the capitalist system through all the world depressions
From my deepest respect for your knowledge and your economic analysis which I foolow continuosly I implore YOU to YOU yourself delf into what the International Alliance can offer you on information on t5he cooperative movement......Just download the world cooperative monior..issued by this organization....This monotor is based on a systematic inquiry over the world in every country in the world to get an idea how infiltrated this system is the economic behaviour of humankind. With limited knowledge...I am not an economic scholar...but a adult educator seen from a muilti-disciplairy approach...[andragologie] and have been promoting this movement ..and studying it real essence difference with the capitalistic system.
In a co-op, is there a surplus? What happens to it? Is it distributed democratically(equally) among the owners/employees/members? Is there accumulation?
In the co-ops I have been a part of (where, for example, you become a type of member to shop there) we did indeed get surplus checks sent back to us. Over the course of 5 years I probably got a total of $100 from the co-op. People who worked there presumably were getting a much bigger slice of that surplus, if I was getting that much just for being a customer member.
@@someonenotnoone Seems that everything you comment on contains no actual knowledge...as a member, the word "presumably" should NOT be included. You should KNOW!!!!
OK Richard he didn’t say what kind of protest was it? What were the issues? Did it get violent with a stupid and got crazy did they disrupt the protest rather than help the protest these are all details that you need to provide before you expect your audience to give some kind of unbiased allegiance to and I think that’s what the problem is Richard people in now asking more questions about what you’re doing if you’re going to be an idiot andprotest in a very serious and unsafe way then yes people are going to react and they are going to react swiftly, and strictly these are details that you need to provide before you give out some blind open and monologue about protesting
Attention to detail has never been his agenda...nor do his "followers" actually question what he says or verify any "facts" he may cite. This is purely emotional manipulation and mass formation psychoses on a rather small minority, with lies of omission being the most prominent feature on offer.
When a protest becomes violent, it is no longer a protesr but a riot. Violence at anti-genocide protests have been instigated by police. You are hypocritically criticizing someone for an alleged assumption while making an assumption that certain peaceful protests would not be suppressed. Or maybe you are just a zionist troll who thinks protesting genocide by a Jewish state is somehow anti-semitic violence and found some other way to insinuate such a falsehood.
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You can shame them all you want, Richard. They are not going to listen to you and will do everything to deny you ever went there. Because, why would they ever give up their grants given to them by the Bourgeoisie?
Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it! -George Santayana The KENT STATE UNIVERSITY massacre of the 1960’s . Same thing different politics same results
You are a bit behind the times Prof. The Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd, made an "Apology From The Heart" to the aboriginal people of Australia in the parliament in February 2008. Bit late - in fact a lot late - but nevertheless, he did it. I am a white Australian of English descent, and my country - like yours - has not treated the aboriginal population of this country fairly. The British actually called it "Terra Nullius" - the empty country - when it was not in fact any emptier than it is now. And, for the record, "King" Charles, is not my king either. Just to clear the record.
27:13: why do you think co-ops which we know have been around for thousands of years, why is so little known" LOL, maybe because they don't work. When a worker who shows up late for work and leaves early from work gets the same reward as the person who arrives early for work and leaves late, that is the beginning of the end. Some employees are outside smoking multiple times a day and are constantly checking their social media while others are hard at work. Common sense alone should tell you very few employee owned worker cooperatives can succeed. Where are you going to find 25, 50 or 100 workers who all share the same exact work ethic and drive? Personal drive and work ethic is what makes capitalim thrive.
Why "democratically elected" representatives and senators no longer respond to the will of the people. The problem with "representative democracies" is that once "elected," there must be an "incentive" to actually "represent" the interests of those who actually voted for that representation. The "constitutional republic" of the united States, was designed to promote that incentive...since only the "peoples" house was democratically elected and also responsible for the "federal budget". This incentive was maintained by the fact that "federal revenue" shortfalls from indirect taxes (excises, duties and imposts) had to be made up with "direct taxes" which were apportioned among the several states and collected by them, and then remitted to the federal government. The constitution detailed the specific limited powers of the federal government, and any need for "direct taxation" would impact the people of the several states directly...in two ways. They would have to pay both their share of the tax plus the added expenses involved in having to collect them...thus the incentive to both restrain spending as well as limit the growth of the federal government to what was strictly necessary. With the ratification of the 16th amendment removed these restraints, allowing the federal government to tax people and corporations/businesses directly and combined with the 17th amendment (democratic election of the senate ), totally altered the "incentives" of representation...as budget surpluses were ripe for "political exploitation" while simultaneously spurring the growth of government...as the representatives and senators now fought to gain access to this revenue to "return it to the states" when those funds should have never gotten there in the first place. The growth of the Federal government, as well as its "invasive" intrusion into "everything," has been consistent and accelerating ever since. For those who are historically literate this is why the proper description of the type of government that was instituted in the united States is a "constitutional republic" and is specifically stated in the Supremacy Clause of Article 6 and is the meaning of " We are a nation of laws, not of men." We are as a result not a democratic anything nor a representative anything, and a further examination of the actual history of the founding will confirm this despite the efforts of "revisionists" regardless of the motivation of the various "factions". Therefore, any such references to "a democracy" or to the Constitution itself, are mere conveniences of political circumstance and should be challenged at every utterance. One might wonder then given this understanding what should and would be the primary focus of this constructed design? That is simple: Equal Justice Under the Law...but like the rest of "constitutional republic" and also conveniently referenced this too is no longer true or possible in what currently exists. Ironically, while the concept of "equal justice" would receive unanimous approval from "the people" the understanding of how this too was lost and replaced with "other" incentives also requires actual historical knowledge. Unfortunately, this knowledge comes at a price, and is in direct conflict with the various factions that have evolved as the dismantling of the design unfolded. These will be examined in future installments.
Our laws are man made, making the notion that we are not a nation of men contradictory. Democracy is participation, not majority rules. You show your preference for democracy by speaking up.
@@someonenotnoone So you are unfamiliar with the Constitution or the Article referenced? Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more de·moc·ra·cy noun a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives. a state governed by a democracy. control of an organization or group by the majority of its members. As noted, familiarity with the complete history of the founding is a requirement, while this particular installment is simply an explanation for the question posed. While the "laws made pursuant to it" are indeed in most instances passed by "majority" votes...there are numerous checks against those "laws" not made "pursuant to it". And these checks exist at every level of government, federal, state and the people themselves. Also, the Constitution was preceded by The Articles of Confederation from 1783 through 1787, and these Articles required unanimous consent for any Federal action...which confirms the primary concerns of those constructing this design: fear of central government and the threat of democracy to it.
@@jgalt308 I'm not unfamiliar with the constitution which is why I know it references elections which are democratic processes. If you are opposed to democracy you should not participate in political conversations. Democracy is participation.
U think communism and collectivism is great, then go live with a few families under the same roof and see how that works out. Even try it in a very small 4 family village. And if u can't see it, the USA has many collectivist policies the worst one being centralized manipulated money...which is also the foundational problem of the worlds Nations Research Bitcoin
You think we can all just live independent lives without affecting each other, then go warp off to whatever universe this is possible in. In reality we share a finite planet and we have to figure out how to do it better than this. It's not the fault of your political opponents that you are on the same planet as them at the same time. It's just your fault for pretending that they're the ones forcing you to share.
@someonenotnoone cooperation not coercion. Typical thoughtless emotional plea in order to justify removal of individual rights. No one is stopping u from helping others. And many people do what they can but have limited resources. Also u must ask how did someone get to where they are? Choices have consequences. However the current monetary system of theft (debt based fiat fractional reserve printing from nothing based money) makes it more difficult for the avg person to help others as this monetary system creates widening gaps of wealth. Also people become complacent and think the gov should steal to help others, so people don't help others thinking the gov will. The gov will not sufficiently help. It has become a honey pot and system of control for the power hungry and encourages the buying of favors. And this system actually makes people more corrupt that otherwise would be helpful to others. If u haven't noticed the gov is very inefficient and is heavily influenced by those with money created from thin air (debt based money based on gov force that has always been manipulated)...and these people don't have ur best interest at heart. Gov must be limited (by the force of citizens) to only protect Life Liberty and Property. Anything else requires careful analysis and must always not violate Life Liberty and Property. Otherwise we just justifying theft. Also a hard monetary system is required for a more just society based on mutual exchange. The gold system was pretty good until it quickly got captured by banks that issue derivates (paper notes, etc. And BTW, the money u put in the bank is no longer yours. It becomes yours to use while they rehypothecate to other uses, which Keynsians justify this obscure detail from people. You think it's ur money?....try to withdraw or transfer 20k. U will b required to jump through a number of hurdles.... naturally justified by various reasons.) So a hard money system such as Bitcoin may be the best solution so far.
@someonenotnoone "No money in philanthropy" is a reflection of a debt based resource stealing fiat money system. There may not be direct monetary benefit, but if people in need are properly helped then that generally leads to a kinder society with healthy people creating more goods and services. But this must not be forced because u then r giving excess power to a specific group that will in turn b used against u! Amazing how people can't see this. Politicians and Financiers are the ultimate parasites of the world. Endless examples in past and present. Politicians will not make you free. The population needs to all believe in freedom and non-forced interventionism (voluntary charity). Life, Liberty, and Property Any big business man or woman knows the requirement of having one foot in politics and one in business is the key to monopoly or cartel like operations. You use the power of government to limit your competition. This leads to poor outcomes for labor and consumer. AND PEOPLE MUST BE INVOLVED AND NOT OFFLOAD RESPONSIBILITY TO POLITICIANS
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M8 I love and respect your morality/view on our world as it is today - But I have to pull you up on your comment about apology - I'm a Aussie + decades ago our prime minister Apologised to the original occupants of Australia - I don't believe in reparations as we could go all the way back in time to when tribes conquered other tribes, ps- Should the Romans/Italians pay the jews for expelling them- Doesn't make sense.
Oh the overblown bloated useless Admin, bane of scholars for these many many decades. The ruination. Right on the students and staff rebelling now. Hopes breath.
So, Professor, given your proclamation of what is "morally right," have you calculated the share the YOU OWE in reparations for all the victims of history that you have determined are deserving of such reparations? Can we expect payment anytime soon? And don't forget your share of the national debt.
@@breft3416 Aren't "we" all victims of history at some point...unless that "genetic line" was completely exterminated, as was the case for the population of Gaza by Alexander the Great?
@@kylegarrett2429 Reparations require payment...where do you imagine this payment comes from? Normally the injured party could sue the party responsible for the alleged injuries. In instance of slavery who would be the injured party and who would be responsible? Further complicating the fact that slavery ended in 1865 in the U.S. there is the fact that all those sold to the colonies of the west, were sold first by other Africans...while the slaves landing in Virginia in 1619, were not slaves but treated as "indentured servants" to re-coupe the cost of "passage", just like everyone else. On completion of this period, they were given land and whatever else was involved in the contracts. Chattel slavery did not become a reality until the mid- century, when one of the "original africans" refused to honor this "contract" with one of his "indentured", and as a result of the court case, all Africans and their off-spring, if not already free, were now permanent slaves. While moral posturing is all the rage...there is no such moral code that has attained universal acceptance, ignorance of history is endemic along with the kneejerk reaction that it is possible to pass judgement on the past from one's circumstances in the present. Then we have: "He who controls the present controls the past." So thank you for sharing your reactive assumptions, and it is hoped that this will provide a bit more clarity with regards to the initial comment.
The average worker does not want that extra work, meetings, decision making, etc. Maybe you can change that, but a lot of them just want to do the minimum, get fair living wage, go home, drink beer and watch tv. You would have to change the school curriculum to make them active learners rather than passive. But this is not possible given the high percentage of non-English speaking learners mixed into classes these days. Teachers are exhausted by this and cannot be at their best. My teacher friend confessed that she is more of a daycare worker than a teacher to her grade one students. You have a professional/educated perspective, Professor, and you have a good brain. Not everyone is like you. Maybe we should also ban junk food in schools. And screen time for young kids. Is there still lead in some drinking water pipes? Our population is like that in the film “Wall-E”. We have to get fit and healthy first.
@@breft3416 I am familiar with Mondragon, Romangna, and U.S. co-ops...as well as Wolff's many pronouncements on "democratic co-ops", my favorite being, " what to produce, when to produce, how to produce, and what to do with the profits." Mondragon, itself is a non-profit tax exempt organization which is composed of 210 companies, 60% of which are NOT co-ops. Also, the largest of these in all jurisdictions, are food related. Also, worker-owned co-ops are not the rule, and no such requirement applies to Mondragon co-ops operating in "foreign" countries. In the U.S. co-ops of any size are also copies of "other" entities or consumer co-ops...that need to be examined on a case by case basis as to what benefits are realized by employees, members, etc. So, while the rhetoric might be tempting, the details of how they actually work or would work ( the details) require further examination. This also seems to be the message of the interview. Central to the question of "the idea" is the incentive or rational self-interests of this democratic one person/one vote of the variations of workers employed by the co-op. Since the number of workers would outnumber those engaged in the various mgmt functions and a clash of interests. If we return to Wolff, and his imagined co-op takeover of Starbucks and the fact that the employees are obviously capable of continuing normal day to day operations...what would disappear is the entire supply support structure for everything needed to complete those operations, and the increased costs, since Starbucks can contract to buy in bulk of all supplies as well as the various "ingredients" and types of "coffee" which is its main draw. Another of Wolff's examples is the sale of the family business to its workers...of course, has to ponder the fact that prior to this possibility, the employers were just exploiters of its employees now become benefactors...while all the "details" of an actual example are missing. Wolff has also suggested that employees should by law be given the right of first refusal, for companies seeking relocate to more favorable environments...which completely ignores the factors of why such a relocation is necessary, and also assumes that the resulting co-op will be profitable and competitive, even though all the supply chain problems also would apply, and financing for such a buyout is also problematic. Also, while the employee exploitation by employers is the central theme, combined with the misrepresentation of "capitalism" as the cause, the alternative to this is examined in "This View of Life" by David Sloan Wilson...with particular focus on the work of Eleanor Olstrom and existing business that are functioning along these lines.
Australia has suffered a forrign controlled corporate coup, in fact, we are under a foreign controlled corporate occupation. All aspects of life in Australia are governed and controlled by some form of corporation pushing the capitalist dogma that benefits the wealthy at the expence of the less fortunate. Corporate welfare in Australia runs into the hundreds of billions of dollars, but our corporate purchased politicians never disguss cutting welfare for the wealthy, it is always cuts to public services. Inflation is being driven by corporate prices, yet they always blame consumers and workers wages.
@@adrianthompson7033 Nobody they are the top. Plus, all members are secret. Except Claus Schwab and few others. Its like auditing the FED, cant because they don't have divulge anything
You're talking about Federal Senator Lidia Thorpe, a very brave and ferociously outspoken advicate for the indiginous people of our country. Unfortunately, she has come under significant attack for her peaceful protest because she swore an allegience to the Monarch of Britain when becoming a Senator, and her protest offended the sensibilities of elites that stab us in the back, daily. Oh, how the pompous elites abore criticism, especially when it is the truth. Trust me, Lidia has a lot more support amongst the Australian people than our elites or their corporate media would have everyone believe. You know, make people believe everyone is doing it so that everyone jumps on board so they don't feel left out. Our News corp dominated media appears dominated by white supremicists, that would have people believe our indiginous cousins are a threat to individual selfishness, a selfishness that corporate capitalism thrives on. Don't be surprised if they attack her at her next election and she ends up romping in with a landslide. Our indiginous cousins are in a unique situation in Australia, and to our collective shame, bigots were able to defeat their voice to parliament by gaslighting the public into being scared of... I actually don't know. Even though I am anglosaxon myself, a British immigrant that came here as a child, I voted for them to have a voice. P.S. people are too easily spooked by the fear that they might lose something. How selfish we have become under capitalist dogma.
@@someonenotnoone , Do you avoid reading them because you're afraid of what they say? We are not afraid of anything Wolff has said or written, because history doesn't support his "moral posturing" and we are aware of his historical and economic ignorance.
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There can never be Justice on stolen land! Here in Australia or United States of robber Barron's and especially Israel. As always much love and respect and appreciation for everything you teach me every week brother Richard 🙏 Peace Equality and Freedom for all....
Thank you Dr Warren. I really like the notion of role rotation in worker co-op. I hope you can come back and talk at length about role rotations. I am glad you are working on this. If every worker co-op insisted on role rotations, every worker would get first-class education in running a business. Thank you Dr Wolff for talking again and again about this. One person, one vote can be very difficult to adhere to.
Yeah, irregardless it depends on who takes the initiative to start the coop. So, a coop entrepreneur that holds the vision can or may have to create a team and create teams to handle specific sections of the coop. The challenge is in creating a constitution that can forsee future internal/external problems and how to solve them. So, maybe 1 man 1 vote can be hard to implement, as members will have to delegate decision making especially in crisis.
Nope, you only get 15 minutes of fame here...and even that can go in unexpected directions.
Hi, this is Jerome Warren! Thanks for watching and honored to do it again! Rick did say he'd like to have me come on again, so perhaps I can talk some more about sortition (rotation by lottery) Simon Pek is great in that respect. He wrote Chapter 19 of the Handbook on that topic.
@@IanMukewa - Possibly a rotating special committee for clearly defined emergencies? made up of members who've already rotated through all the various sections so they can better understand and implement solutions. Maybe in order to fill that board initially, the first rotations could be somewhat shorter than later.
I really wish there could be a land coop for me to join at my age (79). But I'm marooned in remote TinyTown for retirement affordability, and the friend in a major city 250 miles away fell ill just as we were starting to approach the subject. She knows tons of professionals in BigCity, but now that such a project is beyond her, I don't think any coop for us will ever get off the ground. We're all at least somewhat to the left of Bernie Sanders, so that's most of what we'd have in common.
But this business of member participation and role rotation is something I could really get behind. As it is though, 'life' marooned in TinyTown - which has included more than a few open, direct death threats and a klan celebration outside my front gate - can feel unbearable at times. I'm a very social person by nature but basically can't even speak to the vast majority of people here. Not even about the weather. They resort to screaming too fast about the least thing or even nothing at all. And I've been asked 3 times in 21 years, "WTH is Bob Dylan?"
We have food coops here. I have been a member for years. Completely different than shopping in a grocery store. It is more intimate and you feel you have a stake in its success and you do. I used to belong also to a nonprofit car share coop. It was great!
A car share!,! Never heard of such a thing. If you don’t have a car here you go straight into another class. Very important to have a car parked out front. Just in case. . .
6:39 These current political leaders do not want persons of substance in awareness, empathy, intellectual prowess, or any sensibilities towards showing and standing for and being fair and humane in the citizen population.
They are presenting the same "emotional appeal" and attempted manipulation as this site does...the only remedy for this is examining the "factual" history, verification of the facts, and then applying logical reasoning and critical though to reach rationally grounded conclusions.
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Congress is for sale. On the take. BOTH PARTIES. Take care people.
I will not again (since 2016) vote for the dumb-ol'brats OR repugnant-cons. They're just plain not....good enough.
Exactly. For decades, the U.S. has been a corrupt autocratic plutocracy masquerading as a democracy. It's been controlled by the donor class of ultra rich, their corporation and powerful lobbying groups like e.g. AIPAC. The truth is that the U.S. has the best government money can buy & it's working against 90% of the population.
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Dr. Warren thank you for your great contribution to the study of cooperatives. Looking forward to the book release!
Thanks! Should be any day now!
Boundless respect to professor 🙏
The US needs a Nuremberg Type Trial !
And it's own Marshall Plan.
I am encouraged by this scholarship on cooperatives. And I am also devastated by the consequence of democracy that we must endure for the next 4 years and beyond. It would seem it’s not enough to give workers the power if there isn’t also an equal commitment to worker political education.
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."
I happened to catch a response on NPR (which long since hasn't been called National Politburo as originally joked) from a rightwinger political strategist who said she used to run focus groups. And by far the most common question was always "What's an authoritarian?" They don't even know the first thing! They just parrot what they're told to say. For instance I've been called a 'commie fascist' as if such an oxymoron could even exist. They don't know wth they're talking (or often screaming) about.
@@frostyfrances4700 It's not an oxymoron unless you're employing the no true communist fallacy.
@@jgalt308 - No, it IS an oxymoron for anyone who cares about definitions and accuracy in general. No 2 systems could be more diametrically opposed. So 'commie fascist' is just as self-negating as 'giant shrimp'. I'm not only well versed in political theory but I'm also a linguist. So if you don't mind, consider not trying to stir the pot. I damn well know what I'm talking about.
@@frostyfrances4700@frostyfrances4700 So, Stalin, Mao, Franco, and Mussolini were not authoritarian? Nor is the CCP? Or is it
that you do not know what an authoritarian is?
Great take! We need more information from people in the cooperative sector.
As with anything else, information is available on any topic you wish to pursue...but like everything else none of you will actually pursue it. The information you get on this site is, therefore, directed at "its agenda,"...and all other information is ignored and omitted. The reality runs counter to the claim of those who claim to be "learning" anything here...as you just did.
@@jgalt308 All those words to say "I don't like this" and nothing more.
The "global movement for cooperatives" is a GREAT idea and a noble ambition. Sadly though, it is "a day late and a dollar short". The usurpation of humanity has already be captured by powerful global individuals who do not give a damn about the Common Good. It is good to be old. I weep for humanity.
It's never too late! --Jerome Nikolai Warren
“Western modernisation was fraught with crimes such as war, the slave trade, colonisation & plunder, which inflicted untold misery on many countries. Having long suffered from aggression, bullying & humiliation by Western powers, we Chinese are keenly aware of the value of peace & will never follow the well-worn path of the West. The biggest problem with Western modernisation is that it is capital centred rather than people centred & seeks to maximise capital gains rather than serve the interests of the vast majority of people.” Xi Jinping.
In the west your only option is a coop.
Except you have, you are, and you will continue.
Co-ops warm my heart in a frigid world.
Great topic!
I worked in a kibbutz for a year and this system failed because people will always be GREEDY!!
A new world and new systems can only begin if we all start to work on our issues and heal our pains and start spreading love and compassion.
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“To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?”
I would add, What is it that I'm not permitted to criticize?
Thank you Rick and Jerome the sessionsion was appreciated. I first came across a co-op in Failsworth now part of Gtr Manchester in England in the 1950s. It was for the time a biggish shop for a suburb. I was under 10 and all I remember being told was the cooperative society started in Rochdale 10km away and was owned by the locals. I automatically put it in the same box in my young head as Trade Unions which started in Rochdale too. As a banker in my 20s and looking back, I got the impression the powers that were at the time favoured private business who were legal persons, and so much easier to lend to. But I always liked the idea of the co-op. Something down to earth about it.
Why did you grow up to become a banker, please? And what sort? The good Jimmy Stewart kind in 'It's a Wonderful Life' or the other kind in 'Wall Street'?
These days I was shocked discovering Huawei is a cooperative.
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i remember that, i knew one of the students who was suspended for being an organizer for that event. Shame on them
If we had world wide worker owned cooperatives, we could do so many more amazing things than under the greed of the profit motive.
As a volunteer in a food growing collective in Scotland, I am interested to hear you both say we need to get educated in management processes. There are running tensions where true collective decision making is frowned on by those who think we need a manager to run things. I for one strongly resist this idea. But we do need to give our volunteers confidence and education. Can we buy that book in uk? Or is there other material you could recommend?
book is available for free, authors have it available in open access, just search "The Routledge Handbook of Cooperative Economics and Management"
Cooperatives began as a alternative beginning in 1844 with the pionier of Rochdale and they have created a network of alternative economic organization; please dowmload the cooperative monitor..
15:07 for the portion that actually deals with the cooperatives.
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It's tested and tried method that worked really really well many years ago and can still work today.
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I love when you talk about co-ops like in the good old days, too much new world order talk lately.
NZ used cooperative business systems for years, but since 1971, exponential money printing has allowed amalgamation internally and externally to the position of a globalized NZ economy now.
NZ needs to go back to cooperatives to share income and wealth more fairly.
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I've been involved inrCooperative Residential Living since 1977. Obviously successful and sustainable, but directly challenges the dominant, Multifamily Housing model, with underpinnings of dependency rather than personal responsibility and community development. HUD has not sponsored a new housing coop in 40 years. Proportedly, Washington state will be the first in 2025.
Where can we get information on this book tour? Internet searches are not yielding anything, other than the book itself which is very expensive.
Hi, the next event will be in Kansas City on Nov 19. then moving on to Mexico. The book will be available open access, so for free as a PDF.
Just watched your lecture on Marxism from a few years ago. I now understand. Thanks! Co-operatives existed in Australia in the Dairy Industry in the 1960s and 70s.
Anyone looking for this handbook, it looks like it releases from Routledge 12/23/2024 and it is $280 (556 pages).
Link?
It will be available open access (free) as a pdf.
So much of the co-op venture depends upon education.
Education about management can happen in the workplace or community as a matter of culture.
I fear that humanity will never get rid of hierarchical systems.
Western ideology of rugged individualism will be difficult to overcome.
After all, rich people like being rich, and seen as superior in society.
There is no education being offered here...and there is a reason why hierarchical systems exist...but if you have an example of a non-hierarchical human system that actually exists, please share it with us.
@@jgalt308 Don't you promote non-hierarchical mutually beneficial exchange? Or are you dropping the pretense and just acknowledging your advocacy of oligarchy?
The Caribbean to as well
Benjamin Franklin was talking PERSONALLY to the creator of the USA - Tom Paine!
For those of us who read and therefore know that we can get the wonderful information you provide 3-5x faster by reading a transcript than by listening or watchng EU. So what will you need to provide transcripts within a day or so after each broadcast as is done by that other fantastic podcast, Ralph Nadeer Radio Hour. I suspect they can also give you some tips even volunteers willing to do this for you, And with modern voice transcription software, all that's necessary is inserting name of speaker and QAing for mistaken words or spellings
I am afraid that would present a major problem for the Professor, as this would also subject all that "wonderful information" to factual verification and the consistency of the message.
At the moment, none of that is being undertaken by his rather limited and emotionally manipulated audience but would easily be accessible by utilizing the emerging capabilities LLM models of AI. At the moment, none of them actually remember anything he has said and when confronted by any challenge or questions regarding it, they have the luxury of vaguely alluding to the belief that it has been addressed somewhere and one need only listen to all the available material in order to verify this claim
According to the most recent data from the Democracy at Work Institute, there are approximately 600 identified worker-owned cooperatives in the United States, with an estimated total closer to 1,000 cooperatives when including smaller, less documented ones; these cooperatives employ around 6,000 workers. In October 2024, about 161.5 million people were employed in the United States. 6,000 out of 161.5 million. Wow, that sounds like a real success story. Prof Wolff has taught college level economics for decades to thousands of students and has also been promoting worker coops on RUclips for over a decade. I challenge Prof Wolff to name just one former student or even just one D@W patron who has successfully created a worker coop. Worker coops work very well in theory but obviously not in real life as statistics prove.
Yes, "Cooperation" rather than Competition. When I hear President Putin speak, especially about BRICS, this seems to be a fundamental theme.
When I hear Putin (and many others like him) speak, all I hear is a bunch of rabid, greedy dictators.
When will Richard’s new book be available on Kindle?
As much as Trump has been boasting about 60% tariffs on Chinese goods and 10% on the rest of the imports, one must also keep in mind that this is just his negotiating tactic. A 60% tariff on Chinese imports would damage its economy. But bear in mind that China is also a top buyer of American goods. A weaker Chinese economy would reduce its purchase power and would have a boomeranging effect on the US economy.
At firt the ILO was not a propagator of the cooperative movement at first. PLease do go to the International Cooperative Alliance. In 2014 the G& and B20 atmitted that beside the capitalist system is another economic system that has thrived better than the capitalist system through all the world depressions
RW the OG strikes again.
Tell us how the global economy works via cooperative s, pls
From my deepest respect for your knowledge and your economic analysis which I foolow continuosly I implore YOU to YOU yourself delf into what the International Alliance can offer you on information on t5he cooperative movement......Just download the world cooperative monior..issued by this organization....This monotor is based on a systematic inquiry over the world in every country in the world to get an idea how infiltrated this system is the economic behaviour of humankind. With limited knowledge...I am not an economic scholar...but a adult educator seen from a muilti-disciplairy approach...[andragologie] and have been promoting this movement ..and studying it real essence difference with the capitalistic system.
In a co-op, is there a surplus? What happens to it? Is it distributed democratically(equally) among the owners/employees/members? Is there accumulation?
In the co-ops I have been a part of (where, for example, you become a type of member to shop there) we did indeed get surplus checks sent back to us. Over the course of 5 years I probably got a total of $100 from the co-op. People who worked there presumably were getting a much bigger slice of that surplus, if I was getting that much just for being a customer member.
@@someonenotnoone Seems that everything you comment on contains no actual knowledge...as a member, the word "presumably" should NOT be included. You should KNOW!!!!
@@jgalt308aren’t you the asshat.
@@jgalt308 I was a member so I could shop there, but it is entertaining seeing you pretend you set my goals for me.
@@someonenotnoone Knowing what the words mean is really hard for you, isn't it.
Where are the annoying and repulsive ads? Looks like SOMEONE is just as worried as the Harvard admins.
what is the book he is talking about?
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I just checked where in UK I could buy the book mentioned. Waterstones have it to pre order for £215 🤣
It will soon be available open access (free) as a pdf.
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I really would like to buy this book, but is it really $280?
It will soon be available open access (free) as a pdf.
@@kemiogunyemi1797 Thanks so much
OK Richard he didn’t say what kind of protest was it? What were the issues? Did it get violent with a stupid and got crazy did they disrupt the protest rather than help the protest these are all details that you need to provide before you expect your audience to give some kind of unbiased allegiance to and I think that’s what the problem is Richard people in now asking more questions about what you’re doing if you’re going to be an idiot andprotest in a very serious and unsafe way then yes people are going to react and they are going to react swiftly, and strictly these are details that you need to provide before you give out some blind open and monologue about protesting
Attention to detail has never been his agenda...nor do his "followers" actually question what he says or verify any "facts" he may cite. This is purely emotional manipulation and mass formation psychoses on a rather small minority, with lies of omission being the most prominent feature on offer.
When a protest becomes violent, it is no longer a protesr but a riot. Violence at anti-genocide protests have been instigated by police. You are hypocritically criticizing someone for an alleged assumption while making an assumption that certain peaceful protests would not be suppressed. Or maybe you are just a zionist troll who thinks protesting genocide by a Jewish state is somehow anti-semitic violence and found some other way to insinuate such a falsehood.
King Charles also owns gigantic swathes of English land which he rents out to our farmers for millions of pounds per annum. 🤨
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You can shame them all you want, Richard. They are not going to listen to you and will do everything to deny you ever went there. Because, why would they ever give up their grants given to them by the Bourgeoisie?
Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it! -George Santayana
The KENT STATE UNIVERSITY massacre of the 1960’s . Same thing different politics same results
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You are a bit behind the times Prof. The Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd, made an "Apology From The Heart" to the aboriginal people of Australia in the parliament in February 2008. Bit late - in fact a lot late - but nevertheless, he did it. I am a white Australian of English descent, and my country - like yours - has not treated the aboriginal population of this country fairly. The British actually called it "Terra Nullius" - the empty country - when it was not in fact any emptier than it is now. And, for the record, "King" Charles, is not my king either. Just to clear the record.
Not "Gerta", Goethe University!
It's phonetically correct...if you were listening it would sound correct,.
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Money control all.
fiat money gifted to the world by FDR in1934.
Boycott USA/UK/Germany products!
Thank God for the capitalist form of government.
If there is a future.... It will be World Wide Worker Owned Cooperatives transacting in Bitcoin.
Btw, Michigan's Attorney General is a woman/ she, not a male. Dana Nessel...
27:13: why do you think co-ops which we know have been around for thousands of years, why is so little known"
LOL, maybe because they don't work. When a worker who shows up late for work and leaves early from work gets the same reward as the person who arrives early for work and leaves late, that is the beginning of the end. Some employees are outside smoking multiple times a day and are constantly checking their social media while others are hard at work. Common sense alone should tell you very few employee owned worker cooperatives can succeed. Where are you going to find 25, 50 or 100 workers who all share the same exact work ethic and drive? Personal drive and work ethic is what makes capitalim thrive.
Sounds familiar huh
I know of only food and preschool co ops. I am not familiar with business co ops.
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Privacy&public means AllWays big Problem.
I used to listen. No more.
Why "democratically elected" representatives and senators no longer respond to the will of the people.
The problem with "representative democracies" is that once "elected," there must be an "incentive" to actually "represent" the interests of those who actually voted for that representation. The "constitutional republic" of the united States, was designed to promote that incentive...since only the "peoples" house was democratically elected and also responsible for the "federal budget". This incentive was maintained by the fact that "federal revenue" shortfalls from indirect taxes (excises, duties and imposts) had to be made up with "direct taxes" which were apportioned among the several states and collected by them, and then remitted to the federal government.
The constitution detailed the specific limited powers of the federal government, and any need for "direct taxation" would impact the people of the several states directly...in two ways. They would have to pay both their share of the tax plus the added expenses involved in having to collect them...thus the incentive to both restrain spending as well as limit the growth of the federal government to what was strictly necessary.
With the ratification of the 16th amendment removed these restraints, allowing the federal government to tax people and corporations/businesses directly and combined with the 17th amendment (democratic election of the senate ), totally altered the "incentives" of representation...as budget surpluses were ripe for "political exploitation" while simultaneously spurring the growth of government...as the representatives and senators now fought to gain access to this revenue to "return it to the states" when those funds should have never gotten there in the first place. The growth of the Federal government, as well as its "invasive" intrusion into "everything," has been consistent and accelerating ever since.
For those who are historically literate this is why the proper description of the type of government that was instituted in the united States is a "constitutional republic" and is specifically stated in the Supremacy Clause of Article 6 and is the meaning of " We are a nation of laws, not of men." We are as a result not a democratic anything nor a representative anything, and a further examination of the actual history of the founding will confirm this despite the efforts of "revisionists" regardless of the motivation of the various "factions". Therefore, any such references to "a democracy" or to the Constitution itself, are mere conveniences of political circumstance and should be challenged at every utterance.
One might wonder then given this understanding what should and would be the primary focus of this constructed design?
That is simple: Equal Justice Under the Law...but like the rest of "constitutional republic" and also conveniently referenced this too is no longer true or possible in what currently exists. Ironically, while the concept of "equal justice" would receive unanimous approval from "the people" the understanding of how this too was lost and replaced with "other" incentives also requires actual historical knowledge. Unfortunately, this knowledge comes at a price, and is in direct conflict with the various factions that have evolved as the dismantling of the design unfolded. These will be examined in future installments.
Our laws are man made, making the notion that we are not a nation of men contradictory. Democracy is participation, not majority rules. You show your preference for democracy by speaking up.
@@someonenotnoone So you are unfamiliar with the Constitution or the Article referenced?
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As noted, familiarity with the complete history of the founding is a requirement, while this particular installment is simply an explanation for the question posed. While the "laws made pursuant to it" are indeed in most instances passed by "majority" votes...there are numerous checks against those "laws" not made "pursuant to it". And these checks exist at every level of government, federal, state and the people themselves. Also, the Constitution was preceded by The Articles of Confederation from 1783 through 1787, and these Articles required unanimous consent for any Federal action...which confirms the primary concerns of those constructing this design: fear of central government and the threat of democracy to it.
You took writing lessons from the same guy that does trump's speeches, didn't ya?
@@breft3416 which particular words, sentences etc. seem to be a problem for you?
@@jgalt308 I'm not unfamiliar with the constitution which is why I know it references elections which are democratic processes. If you are opposed to democracy you should not participate in political conversations. Democracy is participation.
Not all those protesting on college campuses where peaceful and many blocked students from going to class aswel , Professor Wolff.
U think communism and collectivism is great, then go live with a few families under the same roof and see how that works out. Even try it in a very small 4 family village.
And if u can't see it, the USA has many collectivist policies the worst one being centralized manipulated money...which is also the foundational problem of the worlds Nations
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You think we can all just live independent lives without affecting each other, then go warp off to whatever universe this is possible in. In reality we share a finite planet and we have to figure out how to do it better than this. It's not the fault of your political opponents that you are on the same planet as them at the same time. It's just your fault for pretending that they're the ones forcing you to share.
@someonenotnoone cooperation not coercion.
Typical thoughtless emotional plea in order to justify removal of individual rights. No one is stopping u from helping others. And many people do what they can but have limited resources. Also u must ask how did someone get to where they are? Choices have consequences.
However the current monetary system of theft (debt based fiat fractional reserve printing from nothing based money) makes it more difficult for the avg person to help others as this monetary system creates widening gaps of wealth. Also people become complacent and think the gov should steal to help others, so people don't help others thinking the gov will. The gov will not sufficiently help. It has become a honey pot and system of control for the power hungry and encourages the buying of favors. And this system actually makes people more corrupt that otherwise would be helpful to others. If u haven't noticed the gov is very inefficient and is heavily influenced by those with money created from thin air (debt based money based on gov force that has always been manipulated)...and these people don't have ur best interest at heart.
Gov must be limited (by the force of citizens) to only protect Life Liberty and Property.
Anything else requires careful analysis and must always not violate Life Liberty and Property. Otherwise we just justifying theft.
Also a hard monetary system is required for a more just society based on mutual exchange. The gold system was pretty good until it quickly got captured by banks that issue derivates (paper notes, etc. And BTW, the money u put in the bank is no longer yours. It becomes yours to use while they rehypothecate to other uses, which Keynsians justify this obscure detail from people. You think it's ur money?....try to withdraw or transfer 20k. U will b required to jump through a number of hurdles.... naturally justified by various reasons.) So a hard money system such as Bitcoin may be the best solution so far.
@someonenotnoone "No money in philanthropy" is a reflection of a debt based resource stealing fiat money system. There may not be direct monetary benefit, but if people in need are properly helped then that generally leads to a kinder society with healthy people creating more goods and services.
But this must not be forced because u then r giving excess power to a specific group that will in turn b used against u! Amazing how people can't see this.
Politicians and Financiers are the ultimate parasites of the world. Endless examples in past and present.
Politicians will not make you free. The population needs to all believe in freedom and non-forced interventionism (voluntary charity). Life, Liberty, and Property
Any big business man or woman knows the requirement of having one foot in politics and one in business is the key to monopoly or cartel like operations. You use the power of government to limit your competition. This leads to poor outcomes for labor and consumer.
AND PEOPLE MUST BE INVOLVED AND NOT OFFLOAD RESPONSIBILITY TO POLITICIANS
Is the book discussed here really over $250, or am I just hitting scammer links?
This is beyond revengeful It's sadistic. 😅
Morality never existed on the earth. Might makes right. Congratulations!
This seems like a better analysis.....
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M8 I love and respect your morality/view on our world as it is today - But I have to pull you up on your comment about apology - I'm a Aussie + decades ago our prime minister Apologised to the original occupants of Australia - I don't believe in reparations as we could go all the way back in time to when tribes conquered other tribes, ps- Should the Romans/Italians pay the jews for expelling them- Doesn't make sense.
Hahahaha, of course its the fault of capitalism that teachers were suspended for repeating the same behavior that others got suspended for.
Oh the overblown bloated useless Admin, bane of scholars for these many many decades. The ruination. Right on the students and staff rebelling now. Hopes breath.
Funny that’s why the co op economy of Italy the economy is failing.
So many regular companies are doing just fine, aren't they? Like Stellantis and VW.
And the path to success looks like optimization along a gradient… ALWAYS
@@ssehe2007 like China?
So, Professor, given your proclamation of what is "morally right," have you calculated the share the YOU OWE in reparations for all the victims of history that you have determined are deserving of such reparations? Can we expect payment anytime soon? And don't forget your share of the national debt.
I guess you're part of the royal we.
Its always the myth of personal responsibilities with the reactionaries 🙄 grow up
@@breft3416 Aren't "we" all victims of history at some point...unless that "genetic line" was completely exterminated, as was the case for the population of Gaza by Alexander the Great?
@@kylegarrett2429 Reparations require payment...where do you imagine this payment comes from? Normally the injured party could sue the party responsible for the alleged injuries. In instance of slavery who would be the injured party and who would be responsible? Further complicating the fact that slavery ended in 1865 in the U.S. there is the fact that all those sold to the colonies of the west, were sold first by other Africans...while the slaves landing in Virginia in 1619, were not slaves but treated as "indentured servants" to re-coupe the cost of "passage", just like everyone else. On completion of this period, they were given land and whatever else was involved in the contracts. Chattel slavery did not become a reality until the mid- century, when one of the "original africans" refused to honor this "contract" with one of his "indentured", and as a result of the court case, all Africans and their off-spring, if not already free, were now permanent slaves.
While moral posturing is all the rage...there is no such moral code that has attained universal acceptance, ignorance of history is endemic along with the kneejerk reaction that it is possible to pass judgement on the past from one's circumstances in the present. Then we have: "He who controls the present controls the past." So thank you for sharing your reactive assumptions, and it is hoped that this will provide a bit more clarity with regards to the initial comment.
@@kylegarrett2429 you’re asking a Randian to grow up as if that’s any more likely to happen than them actually reading Atlas Shrugged.
Harvard ,like Stanford etc is pure crap.
Are there any indigenous people in America?
Yes. Many.
Did he ever answer the question? I gave up.
Yes, the conclusion was "it depends!"
The average worker does not want that extra work, meetings, decision making, etc. Maybe you can change that, but a lot of them just want to do the minimum, get fair living wage, go home, drink beer and watch tv. You would have to change the school curriculum to make them active learners rather than passive. But this is not possible given the high percentage of non-English speaking learners mixed into classes these days. Teachers are exhausted by this and cannot be at their best. My teacher friend confessed that she is more of a daycare worker than a teacher to her grade one students. You have a professional/educated perspective, Professor, and you have a good brain. Not everyone is like you. Maybe we should also ban junk food in schools. And screen time for young kids. Is there still lead in some drinking water pipes? Our population is like that in the film “Wall-E”. We have to get fit and healthy first.
Your notion that all of this would be "extra" or "on top" or regular working hours would imply *almost nothing* could be worth it. Terrible take.
@@someonenotnoone If wishes were horses...
@@jgalt308 Then objectivism wouldn't be appropriately compared to Scientology.
Still trying for that relevant response?
Still waiting for the ECONOMIC update, not the SJW update.
you lost me at "anarcho syndicalist". Si si si.
Ah, yes, once again, the rhetoric of the "democratic co-op" returns; the only things missing are the details and any connection to objective reality.
How so?
Maybe you are unfamiliar with the articles, books and companies he's talking about.
JGalt is an anti Wolff troll.
@@breft3416 I am familiar with Mondragon, Romangna, and U.S. co-ops...as well as Wolff's many pronouncements on "democratic co-ops", my favorite being, " what to produce, when to produce, how to produce, and what to do with the profits." Mondragon, itself is a non-profit tax exempt organization which is composed of 210 companies, 60% of which are NOT co-ops. Also, the largest of these in all jurisdictions, are food related. Also, worker-owned co-ops are not the rule, and no such requirement applies to
Mondragon co-ops operating in "foreign" countries. In the U.S. co-ops of any size are also copies of "other" entities or consumer co-ops...that need to be examined on a case by case basis as to what benefits are realized by employees, members, etc. So, while the rhetoric might be tempting, the details of how they actually work or would work ( the details)
require further examination. This also seems to be the message of the interview.
Central to the question of "the idea" is the incentive or rational self-interests of this democratic one person/one vote of the variations of workers employed by the co-op. Since the number of workers would outnumber those engaged in the various mgmt functions and a clash of interests. If we return to Wolff, and his imagined co-op takeover of Starbucks
and the fact that the employees are obviously capable of continuing normal day to day operations...what would disappear is the entire supply support structure for everything needed to complete those operations, and the increased costs, since Starbucks can contract to buy in bulk of all supplies as well as the various "ingredients" and types of
"coffee" which is its main draw.
Another of Wolff's examples is the sale of the family business to its workers...of course, has to ponder the fact that prior to this possibility, the employers were just exploiters
of its employees now become benefactors...while all the "details" of an actual example are missing. Wolff has also suggested that employees should by law be given the right of first refusal, for companies seeking relocate to more favorable environments...which completely ignores the factors of why such a relocation is necessary, and also assumes that the resulting co-op will be profitable and competitive, even though all the supply chain problems also would apply, and financing for such a buyout is also problematic.
Also, while the employee exploitation by employers is the central theme, combined with the misrepresentation of "capitalism" as the cause, the alternative to this is examined in
"This View of Life" by David Sloan Wilson...with particular focus on the work of Eleanor Olstrom and existing business that are functioning along these lines.
@@vivalaletaIs that what you call someone that disagrees and engages in dialog? A troll?
Australia has suffered a forrign controlled corporate coup, in fact, we are under a foreign controlled corporate occupation. All aspects of life in Australia are governed and controlled by some form of corporation pushing the capitalist dogma that benefits the wealthy at the expence of the less fortunate. Corporate welfare in Australia runs into the hundreds of billions of dollars, but our corporate purchased politicians never disguss cutting welfare for the wealthy, it is always cuts to public services. Inflation is being driven by corporate prices, yet they always blame consumers and workers wages.
It's called the WEF- World economic Forum. YT has good videos of who controls who.
@@alicecoppers8980 Yes, but who controls the WEF?
@@adrianthompson7033 Those who control the "fiat" money.
@@adrianthompson7033 Nobody they are the top. Plus, all members are secret. Except Claus Schwab and few others. Its like auditing the FED, cant because they don't have divulge anything
That includes you we need to include you into a COOP representing all the naive RUclipsr video producers naive Hollywood actors singers etc
You're talking about Federal Senator Lidia Thorpe, a very brave and ferociously outspoken advicate for the indiginous people of our country. Unfortunately, she has come under significant attack for her peaceful protest because she swore an allegience to the Monarch of Britain when becoming a Senator, and her protest offended the sensibilities of elites that stab us in the back, daily. Oh, how the pompous elites abore criticism, especially when it is the truth. Trust me, Lidia has a lot more support amongst the Australian people than our elites or their corporate media would have everyone believe. You know, make people believe everyone is doing it so that everyone jumps on board so they don't feel left out. Our News corp dominated media appears dominated by white supremicists, that would have people believe our indiginous cousins are a threat to individual selfishness, a selfishness that corporate capitalism thrives on. Don't be surprised if they attack her at her next election and she ends up romping in with a landslide. Our indiginous cousins are in a unique situation in Australia, and to our collective shame, bigots were able to defeat their voice to parliament by gaslighting the public into being scared of... I actually don't know. Even though I am anglosaxon myself, a British immigrant that came here as a child, I voted for them to have a voice. P.S. people are too easily spooked by the fear that they might lose something. How selfish we have become under capitalist dogma.
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Prime Minister Kevin Rudd made a formal apology to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people on Feb 13th 2008
this is crap read Friedman or Sowell instead
Reading is not a thing here...if it were, no one would be coming here.
Right wing trolling. not welcome
@@qarljohnson4971 Ah, yes. Preserve that delusion at all costs as you march toward your imagined goal of better chains.
Why would we read Friedman or Sowell? Because you prefer what they say?
@@someonenotnoone , Do you avoid reading them because you're afraid of what they say? We are not afraid of anything Wolff has said or written, because history doesn't support his "moral posturing" and we are aware of his historical and economic ignorance.
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