My grandfather, Philip E. Newitt, was a NNRy. Conductor, and worked on the school trains, with engine #40, in the 1930s and 40s. Many of his photos are in a recent Arcadia Publishing book on the NN Ry.
I would love to see an old steam engine operating. I love the haunting and historical sounds that echoes yesterday's vintage technology and just watching it setting still and steam pouring out of it is amazing and the bright sound of the train whistle is awesome.
Another great video! You do these so well. It is nice that the steam history is being preserved like this. It leaves a really, feel good feeling, seeing this and other videos you put up each week. Thanks!
It seems that while you were filming the Ghost Train in 1988 I was driving around Alaska in a VW campervan and found my way to the Kennencott copper mine at McCarthy in Alaska where the magnificent mine buildings overlook the awesome Grey Glacier. That mine was officially closed in 1938 under similar conditions to the mine at Ely. The buildings were left very much intact and it was an amazing experience wandering around the buildings of that period. I am sure you would enjoy walking around there also. The mine was closed back then because every year the glacial melt would destroy the magnificent wooden trestle bridges along the route which needed constant repair. A fascinating place to visit, surrounded by very high mountains and glaciers, a truly awesome experience.
Excellent video. When you were talking about Ely being forgotten in time it made me think of the East Broad Top RR in Pennsylvania that's still stuck in the early 1900s.
I do like your channel.. Gives an insight to many of the Railroads that I have never heard of as I'm a Brit, many of the small American 4-6-0's etc are growing on me that much I have started buying American G scale locos, I have a 4-6-0 very similar to Tweetsie RR No.12.
+Will Coleman Hello! 10 wheelers are great! My fav I think is the 4-4-0. I like the old stuff. Not too old, 1870 or so. No matter, 4-6-0 were in use then too. I love G as well. Working on a railroad in that scale at Garagemahall. Sort of. Need to get the building together first.
Toy Man Television Well I meant the smaller types of American locos I'm not overly keen on some of the big locos.. I have two of these 4-6-0's they are usually refereed to as Bachmann Annie's I think, one I have is being repainted as Rio Grande Southern loco (I hope providing I find transfers) and the other one I own is a East Broad Top No.10, considering buying a 0-4-0 Porter as well.. Only have two coaches at the moment both of them being East Broad Top
+Will Coleman Those are great engines. The first year they came out in radio control they were, let's just say weak. But they became great models over the years. I have several. Even some of the radio controlled ones. Love the look. One I have was a "spectrum" model. White Pass. WOW. Great little loco! I plan to repaint as I'm not that into White Pass.
Toy Man Television The one I'm repainting is one of the first generation RC ones and yes I agree with you that its weak.. I've been having serious problems with it in that it couldn't get round 180 curve with its own tender but I'm starting to wonder if its the cheapo batteries that caused this problem! I'll be happy if I can get it to pull 3-4 wagons although the way its been going I can't see that happening! Do you have any photos on the web of your collection?
+Will Coleman Not yet. All boxed at Garagemahall. But we are going to show unpacking and building the railroad on the channel. Dod you see the Christmas show last week? Those boxes.
+Jon Woods Yup! We (Madame Woo Studios) had 6 titles back in the 80's and 90's. Still on DVD but don't look so good. Even though in their day they were "broadcast quality". Bunch of fun making them. Still a bunch of fun here on the channel.
Toy Man Television Ive probably seen them all, the ghost train is really the only one I remember, thanks though for helping my parents give me an epic childhood.
+Jack R Hi Jack. Great place! And they have a car race. Or used to... Not sure, need to look into that. 100 miles on the 2 lane as fast as you can go. Attracts some great cars!!
*Thanks for an overview of the Nevada (USA) Northern Railway,* which has three near-identical 4-6-0 Baldwins in equipment, an evolution to Walschaerts drive of Class 4-6-0-72 (one example whereof, SerNo 39453, ex-Virginia & Truckee fleet number 27, is on static display at the NV State RxR Museum, Carson City). They've two to handle the traffic even with one down for an FRA Category 4 overhaul (1244-operating-day statutory requirement), which ideally should take six months on a fifty-ton ten-wheeler; make that nine months if a replacement boiler is needed due to a too-thin pressure vessel, to account for fab time at Dixon Boiler Works in California and transport time to the NV Northern shops.
It was interesting to see footage of an original Russia Iron boiler jacket. In Maine the 2ft gauge Wiscassett, Waterville and Farmington Railway have overhauled their 1891 Portland Forney. Part of the work involved the recreation, after much research and considerable expense, of its Russia Iron jacket. Looks good in videos and stills.
+Paul Hitchcock At the Nevada State rail museum and the California State museum they use gun black. Looks GOOD but not at all like Russia Iron. Hope they strip the paint off the jacket of 40. The Russia Iron should be fine under the paint.
+There is quite a lot about this subject on the internet. It seems that it is related to the techniques for colouring gun barrels and clock hands although the exact process used for Russia iron would not be tolerated nowadays as those involved tended to have a short life expectancy! It seems most unlikely to have been the light blue colour shown on some models
Chris De Whit at the Nevada State Museum has tried to make it, with some limited success. Requires powered antlers and some people even pee in the mix! But getting a uniform color is near imposable. Even back in the day,every sheet was different and some bad. So they just keep making them and grading them until they had a matching set. Could be anywhere from dark green to light blue. Chris gave up and uses gun bluing. Like 50 gallons of it. And lots of linseed oil
I bet you guys would really like traction engines. Steam tractors and road locomotives. I especially like showman's engines. Growing up in England we went to traction engine rallies all the time.
Well I work for the Union Pacific nowadays and they all call me a "Foamer". I take that as a compliment as railroad history is American history. Long live the US railroads and all those who photograph them!
You can't understand American history and not understand railroads. Hard to even imagine how a railroad changed every city it came to. You were now connected to the world.
+Werner Sievers Ich sah und roch auch diese. So froh, dass Sie immer noch um zumindest an einigen Stellen. Ich habe entfernt von Steam nun erst seit ein paar Wochen und noch nicht entgehen lassen. Wir müssen uns wieder auf es bald!!
Dale, I recently made a donation to the NNRy museum, (got some pretty sweet swag for my donation, couple of tickets and a cool copper coin!) I've often wondered why the Heber Valley has no provision on their web page to make a donation? They really need to take a page from the NNRy as they seem to be restoring stuff like mad. Can you imagine all the cool stuff HVRy could do with all those donations?
Actually, the reason why they stopped running trains to the mines is because the new owners of the mine reopened it and tore out some track to allow the giant mine trucks to get to the road. The museum is working to build a grade crossing so they can run the trains up to the mines again.
They take the mined ore to a smelter in Utah where it's refined into pure copper. Then, it's shipped off to China to be put in our electronics. I noticed the last time I went there, which was 2 summers ago, that there were truckload after truckload of mined copper marching past Ely towards Utah.
very nice Video on the Nevada northern if your ever in Hoildaysburg Pennsylinvia come ride with us at the Everett Railraod Company in Hoildaysburg Pa we run excursions trains pulled by a 1923 Alco steam locomotive that we rolled out a couple years ago hope you can come out and take a ride with us at the Everett
Ghost trains and ships... Stories and legends. This one really fits the bill. This is not the one movie, fun movie, this one has been in a few films though.
+Ben Sommer It was/is their motto. It's over every door, on the walls, on every car. May have been tattoos for all I know. Check next week. 10 foot letters on the wall of the shop.
Like to. We were hoping to go south (southish) this summer. Ain't happening. So many trains!!! Really want to see the General. And the Texas. And Three Rivers.... I'm going to give it a look.
there is also one in Michigan called the little river railroad. the 4-6-2 light pacific came from here. it originally ran in townsend on the for the little river lumber company in the smokies, and then ran from Knoxville to sevierville. it's a nice engine. there are videos of it on RUclips
+Thomas Coughran This one was called "American Iron" as it was made in America. And it was green. Same thing. Interesting process!!! The Ely people are planning to strip the paint and restore the iron jacket. Take a lot of work to keep it nice which is why they painted it. But it's one of few examples of good iron. Be nice to see it back.
@@ToyManTelevision duke the lost engine is the name of the Thomas book from the railway series and the one I'm talking about is sleeping beauty. Where duke was put in a old shed and a few mouths I guess later people went out looking for duke. They found him by accident and called him sleeping beauty
Flashback. Small town shops could License to sell RadioShack. Not a radio shack store, but able to show the sign and sell the products and many are still around. Just not selling radio shack. I’ll bet they still have new old stock though.
Tyler Bell before they were radio shack they were Tandy Allied. Allied sold everything electronic. Short wave, stereo. No stores. All mail order. Tandy stores sold leather craft. I bought a allied recorder and microphones. Worked great. And a short wave kit I built. Also worked great!
Sort of a long story. But it was hidden from the mining company by the manager who sort of wanted it for himself. So he made it disappear in the paperwork while other locomotives were being scrapped. They used it in the 50’s for a governors train but then stuck it away. And the mining company didn’t know they still had a steam locomotive until they closed the mine in 1990. So the people who knew about the hidden locomotive called it the ghost.
WOW. Off the beaten path. Karin and I LOVE it. Karyn used to have family there. They went out there from Sanpete all the time. Then the mill closed..... When I look at the swatch of dirt I still see that huge complex...
Such a fascinating story. 1987: the year I was born. A great year! Still waiting for some of your stuff on DVD !
What an extraordinary little railroad. I can't wait to make a pilgrimage out to Ely someday.
the few seconds of this video from 1:53 to 2:10 or so, is the best train scene I have seen on trains and RUclips. Wow!
Thanks!!! That place films itself. Just amazing
My grandfather, Philip E. Newitt, was a NNRy. Conductor, and worked on the school trains, with engine #40, in the 1930s and 40s. Many of his photos are in a recent Arcadia Publishing book on the NN Ry.
Cool story and linkage to your grandfather! ;)
This is such a wonderful story and I do hope this continues to be a success story into the future, great video thanks from Al New Zealand
Better all the time! And they have acquired the 100 miles of track going north. Now to figure out how to use it!
I would love to see an old steam engine operating. I love the haunting and historical sounds that echoes yesterday's vintage technology and just watching it setting still and steam pouring out of it is amazing and the bright sound of the train whistle is awesome.
My favs are Ely and Chama in New Mexico. BUt every state as some . Or one.
Another great video! You do these so well. It is nice that the steam history is being preserved like this. It leaves a really, feel good feeling, seeing this and other videos you put up each week. Thanks!
+rohnerw Fun place to see too. More on sunday
some of the big mines was running 6O trains a day every day that was alot of ore 2 mine everday 😊😊 OMG 7 1O 2O24
I LOVE Your videos
It seems that while you were filming the Ghost Train in 1988 I was driving around Alaska in a VW campervan and found my way to the Kennencott copper mine at McCarthy in Alaska where the magnificent mine buildings overlook the awesome Grey Glacier. That mine was officially closed in 1938 under similar conditions to the mine at Ely. The buildings were left very much intact and it was an amazing experience wandering around the buildings of that period. I am sure you would enjoy walking around there also. The mine was closed back then because every year the glacial melt would destroy the magnificent wooden trestle bridges along the route which needed constant repair. A fascinating place to visit, surrounded by very high mountains and glaciers, a truly awesome experience.
Alaska is on our bucket list. BIG list... BIG state.... But so many places tp go there. so much to see.
Hi Dale -- Great photography and storytelling! Great voice inflection, too!
thanks again!! We LOVE Ely.
Excellent video. When you were talking about Ely being forgotten in time it made me think of the East Broad Top RR in Pennsylvania that's still stuck in the early 1900s.
Want to see that place too.
Great program!
I do like your channel.. Gives an insight to many of the Railroads that I have never heard of as I'm a Brit, many of the small American 4-6-0's etc are growing on me that much I have started buying American G scale locos, I have a 4-6-0 very similar to Tweetsie RR No.12.
+Will Coleman Hello! 10 wheelers are great! My fav I think is the 4-4-0. I like the old stuff. Not too old, 1870 or so. No matter, 4-6-0 were in use then too. I love G as well. Working on a railroad in that scale at Garagemahall. Sort of. Need to get the building together first.
Toy Man Television Well I meant the smaller types of American locos I'm not overly keen on some of the big locos..
I have two of these 4-6-0's they are usually refereed to as Bachmann Annie's I think, one I have is being repainted as Rio Grande Southern loco (I hope providing I find transfers) and the other one I own is a East Broad Top No.10, considering buying a 0-4-0 Porter as well.. Only have two coaches at the moment both of them being East Broad Top
+Will Coleman Those are great engines. The first year they came out in radio control they were, let's just say weak. But they became great models over the years. I have several. Even some of the radio controlled ones. Love the look. One I have was a "spectrum" model. White Pass. WOW. Great little loco! I plan to repaint as I'm not that into White Pass.
Toy Man Television The one I'm repainting is one of the first generation RC ones and yes I agree with you that its weak.. I've been having serious problems with it in that it couldn't get round 180 curve with its own tender but I'm starting to wonder if its the cheapo batteries that caused this problem! I'll be happy if I can get it to pull 3-4 wagons although the way its been going I can't see that happening! Do you have any photos on the web of your collection?
+Will Coleman Not yet. All boxed at Garagemahall. But we are going to show unpacking and building the railroad on the channel. Dod you see the Christmas show last week? Those boxes.
More great Americana. Thanks for sharing.
+Peter CPRail8748 I'm back to trains this week. Been unpacking models and am inspired to do a show on Turbines. (Ever heard of the atomic turbine?)
What's the music heard at 11:10? I remember hearing it on Smartsound.com but I forget the name of it.
Richard Band. Americana CD. Love Band stuff!!!!!
An Beautifull preservation exemple!
So great it survives when so much is lost to time.
Really!
Oh man you filmed the ghost trains of the old west video about "old number 40"??? That was my favorite video when I was a kid! This is awesome!
+Jon Woods Yup! We (Madame Woo Studios) had 6 titles back in the 80's and 90's. Still on DVD but don't look so good. Even though in their day they were "broadcast quality". Bunch of fun making them. Still a bunch of fun here on the channel.
Toy Man Television Ive probably seen them all, the ghost train is really the only one I remember, thanks though for helping my parents give me an epic childhood.
As much fun to make as watch. Or FUNNER.
mother of god i saw that video so many times as a kid
That is awesome!
Great history and scenery here! Very nice! I lived near the Lincoln Highway in Pennsylvania! It was U.S. 30 there. :) Jack
+Jack R Hi Jack. Great place! And they have a car race. Or used to... Not sure, need to look into that. 100 miles on the 2 lane as fast as you can go. Attracts some great cars!!
+Toy Man Television James Dean would have been first in line for that! :) Jack
I thought I saw him there. Turned out to be a life sized cardboard cutout.
+Jack R en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_State_Classic_Challenge
+Toy Man Television The car that set the record was a 68 mustang called "Little Red".
Lovely little engine.
40 is a national treasure
I know, and I'm very glad she is still running.
Well, it looks like wasn't the only one in Ely in 1987 with a video camera. Very cool stuff.
Was cool when they went to Copper Flats.
*Thanks for an overview of the Nevada (USA) Northern Railway,* which has three near-identical 4-6-0 Baldwins in equipment, an evolution to Walschaerts drive of Class 4-6-0-72 (one example whereof, SerNo 39453, ex-Virginia & Truckee fleet number 27, is on static display at the NV State RxR Museum, Carson City). They've two to handle the traffic even with one down for an FRA Category 4 overhaul (1244-operating-day statutory requirement), which ideally should take six months on a fifty-ton ten-wheeler; make that nine months if a replacement boiler is needed due to a too-thin pressure vessel, to account for fab time at Dixon Boiler Works in California and transport time to the NV Northern shops.
+B. C. Schmerker Love #40. And 27. Next weeks show is WAY down in the weeds on the colors of UP119 and CP60.
I have that video of the Nevada Northern you talk about... I had no idea you were the one that made it. Great job!
Thanks!! Love to put a new one out with the old footage and the new shots too.
Hi Dale -- Could you do a history video of some of the logging railroads in the California Mother load? Westside??? Madera Sugarpine???
It was interesting to see footage of an original Russia Iron boiler jacket. In Maine the 2ft gauge Wiscassett, Waterville and Farmington Railway have overhauled their 1891 Portland Forney. Part of the work involved the recreation, after much research and considerable expense, of its Russia Iron jacket. Looks good in videos and stills.
+Paul Hitchcock At the Nevada State rail museum and the California State museum they use gun black. Looks GOOD but not at all like Russia Iron. Hope they strip the paint off the jacket of 40. The Russia Iron should be fine under the paint.
+There is quite a lot about this subject on the internet. It seems that it is related to the techniques for colouring gun barrels and clock hands although the exact process used for Russia iron would not be tolerated nowadays as those involved tended to have a short life expectancy! It seems most unlikely to have been the light blue colour shown on some models
Chris De Whit at the Nevada State Museum has tried to make it, with some limited success. Requires powered antlers and some people even pee in the mix! But getting a uniform color is near imposable. Even back in the day,every sheet was different and some bad. So they just keep making them and grading them until they had a matching set. Could be anywhere from dark green to light blue. Chris gave up and uses gun bluing. Like 50 gallons of it. And lots of linseed oil
I bet you guys would really like traction engines. Steam tractors and road locomotives. I especially like showman's engines. Growing up in England we went to traction engine rallies all the time.
+Andrew Jackson We want to get to some of those events! I love those.
Run up to the mines and have a info outlook/observation point!
Expand the offer and make the train ride even more attractive!
If the could they would. Mine Doesn’t want them on the property. Not at all safe either
Well I work for the Union Pacific nowadays and they all call me a "Foamer". I take that as a compliment as railroad history is American history. Long live the US railroads and all those who photograph them!
You can't understand American history and not understand railroads. Hard to even imagine how a railroad changed every city it came to. You were now connected to the world.
Hallo .Dampf , Wasser ,Kohle .Wie in meiner Jugendzeit . 1950 ger Jahre !
+Werner Sievers Ich sah und roch auch diese. So froh, dass Sie immer noch um zumindest an einigen Stellen. Ich habe entfernt von Steam nun erst seit ein paar Wochen und noch nicht entgehen lassen. Wir müssen uns wieder auf es bald!!
Dale, I recently made a donation to the NNRy museum, (got some pretty sweet swag for my donation, couple of tickets and a cool copper coin!) I've often wondered why the Heber Valley has no provision on their web page to make a donation? They really need to take a page from the NNRy as they seem to be restoring stuff like mad. Can you imagine all the cool stuff HVRy could do with all those donations?
HUM... We are up there in a few months restoring the Steel Plant loco. I'll point that out!
Even though I live in Sacramento, I've still been there plenty of times.
+NL97 Middle of nowhere. 250 miles from me, but I go there all the time WOW.
It would be cool to do a modular layout of this railroad and take it to train shows
Do it!!
Actually, the reason why they stopped running trains to the mines is because the new owners of the mine reopened it and tore out some track to allow the giant mine trucks to get to the road. The museum is working to build a grade crossing so they can run the trains up to the mines again.
+Steven Parry I'm not sure how they get their ore finished and moved. The trucks are at the mines only. Not mill I know of and no smelter.
They take the mined ore to a smelter in Utah where it's refined into pure copper. Then, it's shipped off to China to be put in our electronics. I noticed the last time I went there, which was 2 summers ago, that there were truckload after truckload of mined copper marching past Ely towards Utah.
Sucks to ship raw ore. But the Ely mines do have a higher copper content.
I really don't know to tell you the truth. All I know is that all the copper is worthy of being used in a computer.
The ore I've seen is loaded with copper. Green!! BUt they tore down the mill and smelter
The steam locomotive, the closest thing that man has ever created that comes close to being a living being
: All aboard. 🐢🚂🐢🚂🐢🚂
40 will be back in a bit over a year.
drive a steam locomotive id be glad too i should head down, im so close to knowing how to fully operate one. i just know the basics of it.
+Mr goat Costs a lot. BUT I want to.
+Toy Man Television yeah i thought so that it would cost a lot
Im going to at some point!! BUt 600 and up
How old do you have to drive #40?
Safety first
I think they even had it as tattoos.
very nice Video on the Nevada northern if your ever in Hoildaysburg Pennsylinvia come ride with us at the Everett Railraod Company in Hoildaysburg Pa we run excursions trains pulled by a 1923 Alco steam locomotive that we rolled out a couple years ago hope you can come out and take a ride with us at the Everett
Sounds like FUN!!!!!
this # 40 steam locomotive 4-6-0 come from movie tile of amazing story the ghost train in 1985 film??
Ghost trains and ships... Stories and legends. This one really fits the bill. This is not the one movie, fun movie, this one has been in a few films though.
Why do the locos there say Safety First above the road number on the boiler front? It looks really weird.
+Ben Sommer It was/is their motto. It's over every door, on the walls, on every car. May have been tattoos for all I know. Check next week. 10 foot letters on the wall of the shop.
where do you get the music that you use in your videos?
Smart Sound.Great music, great edit system! www.smartsound.com/
I like the music you've used in this video so I wanted to know where you found it, thanks. =)
love the videos. if you ever get the chance, we have a small excursion train in Knoxville, TN called the three Rivers rambler. you should check it out
Like to. We were hoping to go south (southish) this summer. Ain't happening. So many trains!!! Really want to see the General. And the Texas. And Three Rivers.... I'm going to give it a look.
there is also one in Michigan called the little river railroad. the 4-6-2 light pacific came from here. it originally ran in townsend on the for the little river lumber company in the smokies, and then ran from Knoxville to sevierville. it's a nice engine. there are videos of it on RUclips
Everyone pack their bags, we're going to drive a steam locomotive!
Commonly referred to as "Russia Iron".
To wit:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_iron
+Thomas Coughran This one was called "American Iron" as it was made in America. And it was green. Same thing. Interesting process!!! The Ely people are planning to strip the paint and restore the iron jacket. Take a lot of work to keep it nice which is why they painted it. But it's one of few examples of good iron. Be nice to see it back.
😃
Number 40 story sound like the story of duke the lost engine
Not sure what that is. ?
@@ToyManTelevision duke the lost engine is the name of the Thomas book from the railway series and the one I'm talking about is sleeping beauty. Where duke was put in a old shed and a few mouths I guess later people went out looking for duke. They found him by accident and called him sleeping beauty
I had one, but my player chewed it up one day
I have dvds!!!
are there real ghost's?
As real as any others!
anyone else see the radioshack ?
Flashback. Small town shops could License to sell RadioShack. Not a radio shack store, but able to show the sign and sell the products and many are still around. Just not selling radio shack. I’ll bet they still have new old stock though.
@@ToyManTelevision Awesome
Tyler Bell before they were radio shack they were Tandy Allied. Allied sold everything electronic. Short wave, stereo. No stores. All mail order. Tandy stores sold leather craft. I bought a allied recorder and microphones. Worked great. And a short wave kit I built. Also worked great!
Why do they call it the ghost train
Sort of a long story. But it was hidden from the mining company by the manager who sort of wanted it for himself. So he made it disappear in the paperwork while other locomotives were being scrapped. They used it in the 50’s for a governors train but then stuck it away. And the mining company didn’t know they still had a steam locomotive until they closed the mine in 1990. So the people who knew about the hidden locomotive called it the ghost.
@@ToyManTelevision only #40 has that honor?
i live in mcgill
WOW. Off the beaten path. Karin and I LOVE it. Karyn used to have family there. They went out there from Sanpete all the time. Then the mill closed..... When I look at the swatch of dirt I still see that huge complex...
you dont drive a engine you run one
Well... it depends. Yes to drive implies to direct, to steer. But it most of the English speaking countries locomotive driver is a proper job title.