I Found the M Cave of Kenny Veach!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2021
- What's in Area 51? UFOs. Extraterrestrials. Top-secret aircraft. Quarantined aliens. And the mysterious, elusive M Cave. Area 51 certainly has a reputation for secrets! This well-guarded military installation on the sprawling Nellis Air Force base has been fueling the imaginations of ordinary people and determined explorers everywhere for a long time.
One question that comes up often is whether there are secret entrances to underground facilities at the perimeter of Area 51. Kenny Veach may have inadvertently stumbled upon such an entrance while hiking near the base in 2014. He spotted a cave in the distance which had what he called a curious, M-shaped entrance. When Kenny approached the M cave, he said his body began to vibrate greatly, and he felt an overwhelming sense of fear and dread. These unusual and frightening experiences made him immediately retreat from the area. Once he relayed his unsettling experience to his RUclips followers, they begged him to go back out with a video camera and find the M cave again so that he could film it for them. He agreed to do that in October 2014 but was unable to find the cave. After posting THAT video, his viewers urged him to try again to find the M cave. So in November 2014 he set out for a second time to find the M cave that he had initially spotted a few months earlier. Kenny never returned from that hike. A massive search was conducted shortly thereafter. His cell phone was found next to a vertical mine shaft, but search-and-rescue personnel determined that he was not at the bottom of the shaft. And that's where the trail turned cold. Kenny Veach had literally vanished into thin air and hasn't been seen or heard from since.
Why did Kenny Veach disappear six years ago? Some speculate that he purposely left his cell phone next to the mine shaft so that its GPS wouldn't track him because he wanted to hike far up into the hills and remote canyons to commit suicide. Others think he has fled the country and is now living abroad under a new identity. Others think more nefarious things are afoot and that the government stepped in and did away with him because of his inadvertent discovery of the M cave which, indeed, might've been a disguised entrance to an underground, top-secret facility at Area 51. Some think that the strange vibrations Kenny felt in his body as he approached the M cave might've been some kind of high-tech alarm or a low-frequency deterrent emanating from the cave.
In this video, I examine a location that a military acquaintance of mine named Don alerted me to. Don had been searching off and on for the M cave for several years. Unable to explore anymore due to an accident, Don told me about a location he had spotted way off in the distance on one of his last desert hikes but didn't have time to go investigate himself. With Don's help, I was able to make my way to the coordinates he gave me and found what appeared to be a very shallow cave with an M-shaped entrance. I did not, however, experience any strange vibration like Kenny did as I approached the cave. At the entrance, it was apparent that someone had attempted to wall-off the cave with stacked rocks. Inside the shallow cave I found some other interesting things which are all documented in my video. Was this Kenny Veach's storied M cave? I don't know. But it sure had some of the hallmarks of it, though. Enjoy!
**My follow-up visit to the M Cave a year later in 2022 is here: A Curious New Development at the M Cave of Kenny Veach
• A Curious New Developm...
Here's a link to Kenny Veach's final video in the fall of 2014 where he talks about the M cave: • M Cave Hike
Here is a link to a concise news story that documents the entire Kenny Veach saga. Well worth reading! nevadamagazine.com/issue/sept...
For even more in-depth coverage, review, and analysis of the mystery surrounding Kenny Veach and the M Cave, visit Warlike Wrath's RUclips channel located here: / @wlw.
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JULY 2022 UPDATE: This video now has over ONE MILLION VIEWS twelve months after I initially uploaded it! No other Veach video comes close. Thank you all so very much! Keep the mystery alive so that the solution to the Veach disappearance can be found.
OMG, I just found out about the Kenny Veach case today and I just saw your comment posted a few hours ago. it is not strange? I hope you're not thinking of entering that mine... btw I'm a sensitive person
and my body trembled when i saw that image at 2:09 it seems to be a door.
theres already multiple videos made before this about the M cave with more views, this is a popular youtube mystery
Have over like maybe police and government if you can get them to see what's going on over there maybe they turned into a alien edit but I believe in God don't think I don't believe in God†
@@osmopolito àqaà,p
Did you find your way out of the cave and survive or be found
The fact that he found an Area 51 warning sign is creepy af.
After turning the camera off to leave, I would have taken the Aera51 sign with me.
@@RodneyAEvans why would you take sign? You wouldn't want others to be warned?
That sign tells me all I needed to know. Dead to the feds and now a ghost of the desert forever
Area 51 is where they conduct satanic ritual sacrifices.
@@bigman4407 He was told of a undisclosed location by a military personnel near Area 51. If anyone happened to "fall of of the sky" lost in that specific location and were genuinely lost...i think, yes...you are correct. However I don't think people get accidentally lost near area 51, while also NOT knowing they are near Aera 51.
Interesting and the back story too. Unless a body turns of, or Kenny himself, we will probably never know what really happened.
Eaten by aliens prob.
What if the military has him they had something in that cave and he found it
Idk really he vanished
@@Paddingtonshorts solo hikers vanish all the time
His girlfriend believes that he commited suicide because he had fought deprrssion for a l9ng time
This appears to have been a prospectors home. We find these frequently in the desert. The wall they built was to protect them from the elements.
Most sensible comment on this video.
Crazy how all the top comments are conspiracy theroys. This isn’t even the same M cave.
Thanks for this comment, especially since the cave that Kenny Veach said he found was closer to Nellis Air Force Base somewhere nearby the famous Picture Canyon area. It's a small range of mountains with dozens of caves. If the cave is there, you most likely might find the remains of Kenny Veach, assuming he wasn't eaten by mountain lions in that area. This particular cave being so close to Area 51, if not on the base itself, is most likely a shelter of some kind. Based on the look of the wood, the wood seems to be no older than 20 years. It's weathered, but it's still in a condition that could used for another decade or so for light building of some sort.
Prospector?
@@RNCHFNDhomeless/drifter
From what you showed, that cave seemed pretty easy to find for Kenny since he was so familiar with that area. My opinion is that this was not the infamous M cave. It does appear to be setup to mask the real one with the scratching, the sign and poor attempt to seal it. If it was to be covered by the military, some C4 would have done it. There are many that believe the feelings Kenny was getting while getting near the cave was a non lethal military weapon to keep people away. Thank you for all your videos love them all.
@@nicholasholloway8743 then how did beach find it lmao
In my opinion, the sickness hikers experience when poking their heads in these caves is caused by breathing in hemotoxic pools of gases, left there either naturally or as pollution from the air force corrupting underground channels with fuel byproducts.
It explains the fear, vomiting, nerve attacks, faintness and weakness. Attempts may have been made to fill in holes in the area to keep the public safe, not to conceal secret bases.
He said it went way back, he weren’t sure if a mountain lion or something similar was inside, you can clearly see inside this small gap in the rocks
i agree for me this is not the infamous M cave, if it was or kenny body or something would be here and i think kevin would recover it on the spot if it was this one, and sorry but it doe's a m but for me the kenny cave was waaay bigger
You really think they would make the effort the create a fake M shaped cave in an area people rarely visit? If they really didnt want people to be there nobody would.
There's definitely something off about that wall. Those cracks as well as clear air coming out is definitely out of place. I'm also surprised you didn't mention how "out of place" everything is. Even once again - those cracks on the wall are just not right. You should seriously ought to organize for more people to come back and for some very good friend in a different city/state to know about the specific location, who's going there, what time, etc - so he could at least make media aware if something were to happen to you. You should also consider bringing some "special camera" which would be thin enough to go through the cracks and give you some input of what's behind the wall!
This definitely looks like "M" shaped cave. And for those who say that "it couldn't be the cave because Kenny described it as "deep and dark" - well we haven't seen what's behind those rocks... yet!
I'm no geologist, but the rock formations on the cave walls look unnatural to me.
@@wizzolo to me it looks a bit like concrete
@@wizzolo and i also agree that it looks unnatural. it gives the feeling that someone tried to block the cave up.
@@wizzolo what b0nkoi said.
Maybe that there used to be a mine shaft down there but is all covered up.
Slow down the speed to .25, step forward at 3:24 to 3:30, look at the cave ceiling, there are straight grooves there, maybe a hatch. The cameraman mentions he was crouching/squatting down as he filmed in the back of the cave there, maybe the trick is to stand in front of the " HATCH " and PUSH/SQUAT up on the cave ceiling, all around those straightish groves. Maybe theres a counter-levered rock hatch up in that ceiling. Don't get locked in.
I hope this is a joke
Yes I agree we should look into it
Maybe a second video that closely examines the upper part of the cave
I feel so bad for Kenny Veach.... He was just a man who wanted people to believe the cave that he found😢
When this man looked into a crack and felt the airflow his entire tone changed
I thought that was very interesting.
@@icantthinkofaname15 7:42
He was already about to haul ass outta there though, so Brenbobert's comment seems to overstate the case a little.
@@Vingul True but I also noticed his tone of voice change when he said "I feel like I've overstayed my welcome" at the end there, at the very least that airflow gave him a chill down the spine...
@@Vingul no he isn't. Even though he was heading out, his whole attitude changed. His voice cracked and he was scared af.
LOL....I have been in caves where there is air coming through cracks...it's pretty natural.
In Kenny’s original video he described the cave to be “as tall as him” so that he could walk into it and very deep. I don’t think this is it. I’ve seen other youtubers looking out there and saw other “M” shaped caves in their videos. Maybe make a map of every M shaped cave you come across out there. One of them have to be it.
Didn't he say it was at ground level aswell?
I feel like that’s a bit too small tho
I think he said it was in los vegas
@@angielou123 Thats what I was thinking and went back to the original video and you are correct.
Yeah that’s not the cave.
Thats concrete blocking the rest of the cave.
I've been laying bricks for 20 years. I know cement when i see it.
I am def not an expert on caves or concrete or cement but I took a screen shot of that back wall and it definitely looks strange to me, like something walled off with cement or concrete. I have been in a few caves and it looks way too smooth and a different consistency
The creepiest thing about this to me, assuming this IS the cave Kenny found, is just the fact that there's a bunch of wood in the middle of the cave that looks like it was used for something. If it really is the cave that Kenny found, I really wonder what that wood even is.
Who's Kenny and what's up with him
@@user-jc4pu2ul8e The guy who first found the M Cave who went missing going back to it
i mean it could just be broken wood pieces tossed in there by travelers a long time ago
Are you sure that's the creepiest part about all this? A few planks of wood?
couldve been blown in there by a storm. they werent huge logs or anything, and if it was an old prospector's shelter they might be from that era too...or even just from other hikers camping there for the night.
Well, Frank, I think it's fair to say: "the mystery continues"
Yes
His own girlfriend said he had been depressed, running out of money, struggling to get a business going and probably committed suicide.
@@philc3912 "probably" the mystery continues
@@security.930 he did
Dude… this video raised so many more questions for me. Why was there wind coming out of that crack? Why was there wood planks inside this random cave miles away from anything? Why was there a nail in the rock? What was the deal with that Area 51 sign, was that even real or did someone buy that in a gift shop and leave it there for someone else to find? Why did someone try to block off this this tiny cave if it’s so obviously non-dangerous? (Unless it is dangerous?) You know how heavy those rocks would be? Like 60-100lbs each. Why would someone go through the trouble of blocking it off. Even more strange is why didn’t they finish? Where’s the rest of the wood? Why is there only pieces of something obviously a lot bigger? Was it a wagon of some kind? Is that how they got the rocks there? Someone needs to go back with actual scientific equipment and do a real investigation. I know people that have the resources and equipment. If I only knew the exact coordinates. We could plot a trip out there using 4-wheelers and trailers and do some real work. Ground penetrating radar, metal detectors, geologists who could examine the cave for anomalies. Mr Veach said he felt vibrations and it made him scared. You said you didn’t feel any of that but you seemed obviously scared. I mean how long did it take you to get out there to investigate this cave? And then how long did you actually stay before bolting? What if there was some thing behind the rocks that was producing electromagnetic current? Electromagnetism can cause fear and paranoia. I am honestly intrigued
Thank u. I thought i was overthinking all this.
So all you need is a travel guide. Someone to take you there?
Have you gone yet?
That cave resembles hundreds of natural caves in that region. Rocks fall and end up looking like they were intentionally stacked.
@@user-is3kn3gs6z he’s talking out of his ass, all he would need to do is get the location which isn’t hard
You ain’t heard of that whistleblower who exposed the alien’s underneath the grounds of military bases? He was in the military and had some pretty recasting wounds from a battle with those beings honestly if you saw them you’d believe nothing but something over a certain temperature could have caused it.
DUDE you tube has been hiding your videos from me, I thought you has stopped making videos and then i went looking for Kenny updates and seen this,. Glad your still out there bringing the entertainment.
This was a long time ago. I have not forgotten about Kenny either because I was among some of the RUclipsrs watching the M cave video back when he first went missing..It was like one of those stories you hear about when they say, "users went to reddit, and quickly solved the puzzle." It was shocking. It was worrisome. I just watched this guys M cave video and now they couldn't find him. I remember months later people were skeptical about all of this suspecting Kenny may have faked his own death. I can understand that also, it makes sense. If he faked his death it was brilliant. I just refuse to believe a man like him would do that. He had a daughter and he was probably a really great loving type of parent. I don't accept that he is in hiding, but maybe he started getting death threats and had to do it? His story became internet lore. I'm pretty sure Coast to Coast AM did a segment on him. This is an unsolved mystery and we should all go tear that cave apart to see if there really is a hidden opening.
U from the tik tok
ruclips.net/video/UThQqvEquAY/видео.html 44:47 this just shows there’s something going on inside the caves. Please people go to the time stamp and listen to it. You going to need some tnt to blow that up.Something just don’t sit right with me on this one.
Smarttt!
He killed himself.
Wait I’m confused why was he getting death threats?
It’s set to M for mini, when you need to set it to W for wumbo.
Oh yes i have been looking into mystery’s all day and have not left the room I’m glad I have a spongbob joke to lighten the mood
Lol
Are you kidding me, Kenny Veach died and you jest like this?!........lol spongebob reference nice
My thoughts exactly!
They just don’t get it, people dedicate years of their lives to find the cave for Kenny’s memory.
I had to google Kenny Veach but the cave you found looks like an old cowboy camp. The stacked rocks are a windbreak for having a fire and for sleeping. There are 2 packrat nests (middens) in the cave - one in the upper left at 3:11 (you can see the droppings piled up so the nest probably goes back into that crack in the rock a bit) and the one at the end that the Area 51 sign is in, the sign most likely was carried there by the packrat, they do that.
Don’t ever fuck with caves alone lots of shit goes there worldwide and i’m not joking
Those systems big as fuck.
What do you mean “goes there”?
he literally looked in a hole with airflow and was like alright better leave now lol
Lmfao I thought the same 😂😂😂 fuck that I’m turning around and leaving ..
Theory: cave near or on millitary base. Tired of people camping in it, they blocked it with a wooden door. That didn't work, so they filled it in with concrete or something immovable?
Exactly my thoughts
Also they didn't want anybody using it as a "base" if they wanted to do some spying etc., to elaborate.
Native Americans often built walls like that for defense & shelter. May have been a good place to hide out for the night. Kenny was showing some signs of mental illness so may have seen/felt things that weren't there.
@@nefariumxxx Frank mentioned that part of the wall looked odd. Made me think of how around here they often have to seal up the openings of old coal mines to keep people out. I'd never heard about Kenny's story until this video. It's sad when someone doesn't get the help they need.
Also I'd think that even a hidden secret entrance wouldn't make you have to crawl through it one at a time. Lol
@@-Batman- Also, Why put up a warning sign in a small opening in a rock wall that literally goes nowhere?
Take Care All
After the Kenny Veach incident, I think the authorities in Area 51 closed this place, but inside the cave.
No se si me entendieras por que soy español pero para mi el se metió al área 51 sin querer, lo vieron los guardias y lo mataron
Y para mi que lo mataron y al cuerpo se lo mostraron a su novia y ellos le dijeron que si ella decía algo le iba a pasar el mismo final
@@Proyect30Dayss yo creo lo mismo
The scary bit about this is that this is the first bit of information that we have got on kenny and the M cave in nearly a decade
That airflow coming through that hole is a dead giveaway. That means that there has to be an entrance to an open area along that wall.. You did the smart thing by leaving though.
That's not even the M cave Брат!
I think that “wall” you are referring to is meant to be a windbreak
Came here to say this. I’m somewhat of an alpinist myself, and you’ll find walls like this ALL over the peaks in the Sierra Nevada. People build them as windbreaks for emergency bivies.
@@MrDavercadaver It's a good location for that although don't rattlesnakes like to hang out in those kind of places?
@@thursoberwick1948 In the desert they can be anywhere at any time, but on a warm/hot day, in the shade.
@@W7DSY That kind of location is good for them - rocks to sunbathe on, shade to shelter in, and rock piles that they could catch rodents and lizards in.
Where'd the wood come from? It looked like pieces of a packing crate, no doubt brought there for firewood. But from where?
I agree about the stone wall, it'll keep the wind off you and help hide the cave (and fire).
Old Sheahan family mine claim. Silver chloride and lead, probably low yielding and filled in. The right side of the M seen from far away is the crack where natural air and gases seep out, what you observed at the end (air flow) and your body telling you there was a change in oxygen level in that area (dread/flight instinct). Walled up but periodically used by wanderers and explorers. Digging down and back at 35 degrees you’d probably come across the original shaft. My best guess at a glance. That whole giant rock shooting up would have fissures once you get in it.
I can't believe I've never heard this story before till now, wow this is crazy man. It looks like the entrance to the cave was deliberately closed off and covered up to look like there was never any entrance there.. but we know that there was if this was really the M Cave. Sad to think of what might've happened to Kenny..
I used to be in the military (years ago), and I can assure you that there are many underground bases in places people would never guess. Around all big cities, is a sizeable base to hide the leadership of military and of the civilian high-ranking elected officials. Because, if a ballistic missile were to be coming in that city's direction, then these secret locations would open up and allow the Upper Cadre to gain entrance and protect them during the blast. So, everyone should also look around the outskirts of big cities to find similar entry points. They are often not hidden, as much, as one would think.
Both my parents were in the Air Force for over 20 years and they have told me the same thing.
How big of a city? Would Appleton (pop: 74,139), Green Bay (pop: 104,777), or Milwaukee (pop: 594,548) have something like you described?
@@whitehusky3 any time I’d ask about where they are or how to find them my dad would always say “well i could tell you… but then I’d have to kill you. “ and I just accepted that. Lol. So I couldn’t help you. But would love to hear from anyone who does know of anything like that.
Valid point indeed
Give us an example to see an indication of an entrance on google maps in some city?
If you watch Kenny’s video he walks past this little cave and then to the S shaped valley but then he hits like a dead end and turns around and goes back to his truck.
What are you trying to say?
I know this is 2 years old but to me it looks like this entrance was blown up after Kennys case got so much attention, would also explain why the sign you found is crumbled up and covered in dust which could have been created from an explosion.
That wooden dowel was 100% for a ladder. If that was once an entrance, one could only assume there was a ladder that you used to go down to a transport tunnel of some sort that would lead you inside area 51. This isn't the only entrance that's out there, I'm sure.
I don't believe this is the cave that Kenny was looking for. This is easy to spot and Kenny who was familiar with the area wouldn't have missed it. Thank you for going out there and exploring the cave, but just watching your video, I feel like there is something SUPER WRONG there ... that is, the scratch marks you pointed out as "Hatch" which actually means a door or "a covering for an opening area". I don't know why, but I feel like there's something hidden that needs to be discovered ... Otherwise, it is so random to find a cave that looks like M with some random lettering, hinting "a door".
bruh
it almost feels purposeful, like someones playing chess with all of us and we dont know it yet
Its the door to exit the simulation we are in!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I mean ... it could be a hidden entrence or emergency exit to that base he was talking about ... and im not at all surprised ... a perfectly hidden exit for the personell if shit went wrong ... and just scratched out word hatch just to inform those who know that this is the place ... so yea... wouldnt be surprised if there is like a hidden cam somewhere and someone is just lookin at that dude
Says hatch they say... I say it looks like the map of that area 51... idk I'm guessing
If Kenny stumbled onto the opening of the underground base which is said to be staffed by both military and EBE's that certainly fits with the whole story here, he definitely would not have been permitted to leave if he did.
Why would the military have a secret underground base accessible from public land and leave it unguarded?
@@fortyseven1832 emergency exits, heard of those?
@@Plane_Person Or a long forgotten entrance/Exit, that was built before the technology.
FREE MASONRY
@@holycow4889 true
I think Kenny was either feeling the effects of a non lethal weapon on him which was using high frequency sound waves or he was having some sort of psychotic episode,possibly through tiredness or lack of food and water.He may have fallen down an old mineshaft or become trapped by crawling too far into some form of underground opening.Or it may have been the camo dudes.
Bring a geiger counter or any other kind of rad measuring device with you, best to put yourself in full hazmat as well once you get there. What Kenny described after having been inside that cave entrance were typical symptoms of directed energy weapons/infrasonic exposure.
Interesting how you started feeling uncomfortable about being there. I don't know how far this is from the boundary of Area 51, but the Area 51 sign was probably taken from somewhere else and brought there. It looks like somebody was working on building a little fire pit and had brought up the wood. The dowel with the reduced diameter on the ends looks like a chair rung. If you felt some cold air coming from some of the cracks I would tend to think that this could have been a mine entrance that had been back filled or collapsed. No idea if this is the same "M" cave that Kenny referred to in his video, but it was an interesting exploration anyway.
I dunno, him feeling uncomfortable seems like a self fulfilling prophecy to me. Due to the caves supposed backstory and him putting the ide he should be uncomfortable in his head by saying he didn't feel anything.
It'd be interesting to bring somebody who hasn't heard the story out there and see if they feel the same naturally.
@@The-Okami-Project - exactly!! Well said.
Why would anyone bring a bunch of "firewood" (perfectly fine building wood) to some remote place and then not make a fire with it at all (nothing burned)?
@@whuzzzup For something to lie on?
I saw what you said about starting a fire. I think he probably was doing an average hike but then was killed by government or causes.
Only one thing you need to remember, Kenny said the cave was narrow... this cave entrance is wide
He had to get down on his belly to crawl out
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thanks for finding and showing this to us
6:22 sees area 51 sign and he seems scared right there and then 7:50 airflow through the cracks "WELL I GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE. I THINK I OVER STAYED MY WELCOME" and there he goes. Those rocks seems really suspicious. It really feels like there was an opening there.
Wdym by openings
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@@vnkdabaz3513 he means a false seal..like someone made it appear to be natural..unfortunately I don't think he "dissapeared" due to an accident or stumbling upon something he shouldn't of. He was battling depression for a while and I believe he may have taken his own life somewhere far out there deep in a crevasse or a cave so nobody would or could find him.
He also seems to be breathing heavier during his stay… strange…
@@hoodycoo4391 nah if someone is a little scared the heart rate and breathing will change.
You should have shook the camera at the end and turned it off like you were abducted.
and then have buddy Don upload the video.
that wouldnt work
human stupidity, it wont work
Plz dont start making yt vids because theres enough fake prank/fake video douche nozzles out there already
i think you actually found it nice going keep doing your thing man👍
Yes that's definitely it!!! Others have tried to say they found it but no way is the shape of M is as good as this one!! Great job.....u should do a collaboration with those other channels and dig through and see if u can get in there
I am not suggesting that you should go back, but it would be very exciting if it was investigated by a team of people, you know so no one else dies, because it certainly looks like it’s blocked off with concrete or something.
"Hatch" pointed to a handle. Dig a little there. And that wall moves.
NVM, restricted area. Disregard
Resembles a Native American shelter and/or later used by miners. The natives often built that type of low wall for shelter and defensive purposes.
@@nefariumxxx It also reflects back heat from a fire which would otherwise dissipate.
@@nicholasholloway8743 yeah, I always hate when I see people say the government "tried" to hide something it is very rare if not entirely impossible for the government to fail at hiding something, the only reason we know 99.9% of the shit they do/did is because they let us know. The truth is if the government wanted to hide this cave they would've done a lot better job 😂
@@killerbug05 unless they sent a few PFCs and a super laidback Specialist to do the work. That would explain a half-assed cover up job.
I don’t understand why so many other RUclips channels are still on the hunt for this cave when it’s right here. Saying it’s near Area 51 is like saying Kingman Arizona is near Las Vegas. It is, but still well over an hour away by car.
Cool man, great vid
Be careful, we don't want you getting 'lost' like Kenny.
HE WENT MISSING
That area 51 sign was in interesting find.
I'd take that home
@@yuripessoa5336 definitely
Conveniente, para montar um enredo que vinculasse ao desaparecimento.
@@yuripessoa5336
Yeah I'll bet it's not there now! ;-)
maybe this cave had something to do with the old mining area that Kenny found? maybe just another entrance that was closed off?
Been trying to find this cave fore years without luck, glad someone has
I'd go back with a metal detector and shovel. Also I would have taken that area 51 sign.
My thoughts exactly.
Would have definitely taken the sign.
@@Vingul Might end up being a bad idea tho. I find that sign to be one of the most sus things about that cave. Obviously someone brought it from another area, it shouldn't be in that area. So who took that sign there, HOW did they manage to get the sign w/o being shot, and WHY did they leave it in that cave after going thru the bother of obtaining it? It wasn't hanging up, just left there... As if they're trying not to make the cave itself look like the restricted area, but left the sign as a hint to anyone that came there, just remember you're mortal and turn right back around...
I wish you could do more searching and digging around in that little M cave. I have a feeling there was more than meets the eye. Just don't disappear on us if you see an alien.
There was a video of a guy who was headed to area 51 and near the entrance he came across two old ladies who definitely did not look human at all, they looked like characters straight out of courage the cowardly dog, the video is nowhere to be found now because I tried to find it and no luck.
@@cosmicsoul8042 update me if u find it
@@cosmicsoul8042 bro now im curious pls send the link if u have found it, thanks in advance
@@cosmicsoul8042 omg, I remember watching that video. I can't find it either. We need more people looking for it
I FOUND THE VIDEO ruclips.net/video/f_Nt0jgGNek/видео.html
That spot could have been used as a training area, looks like those stacked rocks were placed there to help with concealment. The stacked rock wall was either way higher to block view of the tunnel or it was never meant to block full view of the tunnel, if it was stacked higher there would be more large rocks scattered around. It's possible that someone else found the tunnel and used it as a home, there is evidence of someone using that area for an extended period of time, maybe that nail in the wall was for hanging up gear. Curious if you kept digging where the wood is if you would have found something more to explain the actions the last people did there. That area you circled with red, it does look like it was tampered with, however also looks pretty natural. Could find out if it's an entrance by digging and finding a seam and or may be able to tell if they used concreate. If they wanted to make it look like a regular cave, they would have cleaned up after themselves. If there was no stacked rocks or wood, the cave would be way less conspicuous. Not to mention that if the one way to find the cave was by how it looked, Area 51 would have given it more of a remodel. Difficult to say if that sign was placed there or if erosion/wind blew down the wall that held it in place. IMO if this was a sensitive area, you would have been bum rushed, doubt Area 51 would be so casual about a security risk unless they were just that confident. That hole in the wall makes me curious. You could always get a trail camera and hide it, checking in on it every so often. If this tunnel is truly an entrance to Area 51, there is bound to be a patrol that checks on it eventually.
Mhmmm! I feel if it were as important as many think it is, then there would be more done to prevent people from finding it.
Soooo I’d like to say I’m security forces AKA SF USAF and I’ve heard story’s that if you get stationed near NAfB you would be helicoptered in Area 51 idk if it’s a rumor or not but neat this place is a thing I would’ve just came back with a hammer an stuff if it was me
If being in the airforce taught me one thing is that if it was a secret entrance to “Area 51” they definitely wouldn’t leave it unguarded like there would be SF (security forces) or DOD guards there definitely wouldn’t leave something like that to the public just as a hint to you civilian folks who think the government is super slick trust me I’ve seen enough in the AF to know they wouldn’t be slacken on something like that
Fun fact, I moved to Vegas when I was 19 (Back in 99), got a job cleaning bus's that would transport workers out to Area 51. And every single day, probably 1 out of 5 buses would come back with a seat covered in vomit. And no, these were not party buses, and no the vomit did not smell like someone had been drinking. I always found that weird as hell.
Radiation poisoning from working with exotic technologies, effects of having grey alien as co-workers, etc, etc ,etc.
Did it look normal ?
@@MentalExistence I dont really remember. I didnt even remember posting this comment. LOL
@@seananon4893 wake up
@@seananon4893 bruhhh. U made it up?
The fact that Kenny himself said that he felt 'vibration'or overall uncomfortable, means that since he was near Area 51 He might have gone near a highly classified area. They use these machines to deny entry of such unemployed people to swat them off. (Vibration, heat ect.) This here is not the real cave. Seems that it may be a fake, or uninhabited. When you are talking about the government, these people are smart- and they will do whatever it takes to cover themselves.... Even if it means termination.
Ever think about scraping some of the dirt away from the bottom and looking for a hatch ? Generally they would be under or above you I would imagine
Things were just getting interesting when you pulled that nail out too, then panning to that gap, showing some space behind the rock. That's the area that I thought had the most likelihood of going somewhere from the first moment you showed the inside of the cave too...
I would have kept the sign. Very cool piece for a man cave.
Someone or something definitely Broke the Cave's entrance And Kenny got Himself Trapped with no food or Water I think thats how he was missing
Maybe
The fact that his girlfriend posted a video of him drinking a beer before going in would most definitely explain the unlabeled bottle.
Only just read up about the Kenny Veach incident, Pretty chilling stuff definitely makes you wonder what's out there. I wish I lived in the USA. I would happily take a long ass drive down to Nevada to do some looking around!
In kenny’s video at 15:29 he says the M cave is “deep and dark.” I don’t think this is the cave he referenced.
Who knows... 2:10 that does looks suspicious. I mean it felt like there was an opening there once but was sealed off later.
Likely not connected to area 51. As where Kenny disappeared is on the west side of the test site off of highway 95, and area 51 is on the east side of the test site.
Wasn’t he back behind Gass Peak somewhere? I saw his last video right before he went missing where he talked about finding it and planned to go back.
@@icantthinkofaname15 "M Cave Hike" by snakebitmgee
If you look on the unreleased footage of him stood at his car speaking to camera, he is holding a bottle of beer, which looks just like the bottle that was found in this cave!
This is epic love your videos
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At 5:56 when you go for the piece of metal, you can clearly see wood “in” “under” the dirt at the bottom of the screen. Did you try to dig and see if you were sitting on top of the hatch?
Yooooo what the fuck he's right
Welll Kaidermedia don’t go around telling people now
It's true! And also, when he drops the glass bottle seconds before, it sounds hollow. Not the way it would sound if it was only dirt.
@A M if you look super close, at that exact time under the loose dirt u can see different wood inside the ground, just like the corner of a 2x4 but strangely it looks like it could be a hatch😳😳
yes there is a door or inside in this moment i do realise that too and the word is to any one come there to try find the truth and dig that point to find what theye shouldnt fond
5:56 there was a small piece of wood under the dirt at the very bottom of the screen. That could either be a hatch or just another piece of wood.
Does look buried. Interesting.
The sign of marks says Hatch but that suspicious door that you talked earlier in the video
Definitely interesting, however if this was actually the M cave then you’d think they would carve out the entrance to make the M formation disappear. They wouldn’t just stop at sealing it off if they really don’t want anyone to find it
Kenny actually wasn’t the only RUclipsr to go missing after visiting this cave, there was a women who regularly vlogged abandoned ‘haunted’ places, she visited the m cave and she had 2 videos after, one was a video of what looked like a struggle in a car, and the other was of a women tied up. While these videos were uploaded her channel name changed to random series of digits before every video was deleted off her channel.
Maybe it’s a coincidence, but probably not. Especially considering all the conspiracy around Area 51 and 2 separate content creators disappeared. Maybe they saw something they wasn’t supposed to and whatever was at the cave has been covered up due to the media attention.
I just hope they’re both okay.
Is the channel still around ?
WHO
Actually wrong. That’s Ash Robinson who went missing after visiting The Salton Sea, which several people wanted her to check out. The place is known for being a human trafficking racket as people hide there, trying to find people to traffic. Still, I hope both of them are okay.
@@mr.vintage4889 And Ash Robinson never even existed. TheTekkitRealm is a prolific liar. The closest thing to that would be AshVlogs.
name please
Amazing! I just started researching this again like 20 minutes ago and you uploaded like ten ago!
I’m an explorer, if you tell me where it is, I will make a video, break that cover up of a rock, cause someone did block it you can tell, but I will record me going in and exploring it.
Looks more like an old homeless camp or maybe a fugitive's hideout. Too short to be Kenny's cave as described.
My theory on what happened to kenny: He wasnt trying to film the inside of the cave (his camera gear was at home when he was missing) but instead he was trying to find out what was in the cave as he must have knew that there was something in it. The military in area 51 found this out and killed him, completely removing his ID and any existance of him
I also think it was attached to area 51 and that what kenny felt when he was near it was something that area 51 has been using. I think kenny writ hatch when he was looking around too. Then once they removed his ID, they tried to cover the cave off. Where the hatch is u may ask? It is behind the back wall or the back of the floor cuz u can see where it has been covered off by rock and dirt.
I also read another theory where there was rat droppings where he sat down and that is where a deep space usaly is (the cave). But again this cave can be a whole setup and the cave was a dead end but a smart trick by area 51. They could have covered the back wall in weak concrete and put rat droppings just so that people would try and look there. But it could be that one at the same time. Maybe look for weak rocks in a mountain and if you cant find any then that is ur spot. when digging it out (if its that cave or the other one) try not to stay there for long periods of time and maybe study the guard movement. Then, make a schedual on what time u will be there. Dig it out with a few people too so it is quicker and u will probably need something to remove what material that is on the back wall. And that is where i end for now. Good day
Yah, we'll never see him again.
@@lynettedundon1410 hope see you never again you care about your selth
@@ytsposter. first of all you can't spell and second of all he is saying that we will probably never see Kenny again so idk how he just cares about himself get your facts right
Bro this guy better not go “missing”.
Fbi: yeah about that ...
@@population-_-420 if this guy goes missing like the guy who found the cave did something is up.
When Kenny Was Zooming In That Cave There Was A Face In That Cave So That What Could Have Happend To Him There Was Something Following Him The Whole Time That,s Why He Never Got Heard From Again
A hatch doesn't necessarily have to be on side of cave. It might be in the floor of the cave and covered over. With the sign there and the vibration probably being machinery Veach may have been killed by security of Area 51 to protect it's secret.
Hi Frank. Kenny described in his video that upon entering this particular cave, he felt an overwhelming vibration which spooked him so much he turned around and left. I wouldn't doubt that because of this vibration, it had, no doubt strings to Area 51. And, because of its discovery by Kenny, I believe this location was then filled so no longer can it be investigated by anyone else. Is Kenny Veach behind that makeshift wall, no one knows.
I love your channel and explorations that gave me a new interest for caves and abandoned mines. One mine in particular actually scared the daylights out of me. I can't remember the actual name of it, however, it's the cave where you heard what you thought was "Snakes" but it was actually "chanting like whispering." Being there I realize is far more different than watching a video!! You then realized as well, I guess while editing, that the chanting is what you thought were"Snakes!!" That video is one on my favorite list in your collection of explorations!
As always Frank, first and foremost, please remain Safe and Healthy my brother. NYC loves you!🤟
P. S. That DEFINITELY says "HATCH" and IS DELIBERATELY scratched there!
and you know this because you can see it so easily? lol
@@timbodnar6711 why do you have to be an ass? Why can't you just leave one to their opinion??
People like you fkn Suck and aren't happy unless they say shitty things to people.
How sad are you.
I agree. That clearly says Hatch. Something is up , no question. Frank wasn't staying long enough to find out!
If you notice in the cave you can see where the rock and the cement separates someone put cement there to block off it off you can also see how dirt was thrown all over it to make it look natural
They probably did that right after kenny went back the 2nd time
The white writing on the back of the cave wall reads, "Speak Friend and Enter."
Kenny said that it's a deep dark cave.
That's not a cave
There is rocks blocking it off. Maybe this is the M cave, but nobody knows because it's blocked off.
What’s scary is he might’ve never even made it into the desert and had some sort of incident driving to it.
I found a bunker type entrance on the side Kennesaw Mountain GA a few years back. I'm the type that wanders off the trails and I noticed a 90° angle through the woods one day while exploring. It was supper sketch. There was a blast door in the front that looked welded shut from the inside, and there was also a metal trap door on the top side. I could lift the door maybe a couple inches only to find that it was chained with a padlock on the inside. I've always wanted to go back back with a portable plasma cutter. My theory is that it connects to Dobbins AFB with isn't that far away. Considering it was closed and sealed from the inside only, leads me to believe there are other ways to get in. Who wants to go check it out with me? Still remember the exact location...
Huuum tempting
Could you say the location? That way anyone else who can go there can take a look, maybe get some footage
@@RaisinBarXZ550 33.981076,-84.576140 it's been a while but I believe its around this location, I just remember the trail did a hairpin turn to the left and there was a little trail going into the woods to the right. You can't see the entrance from the main trail, but if you take the little trail to the right and walk back ab 50 ft you should see it. Like i said it's been a few years since I've visited the mountain, but this is my best recollection!
@@hohsmith4723 record a video of it
I'm in Florida I'll go no fear in me
The county sheriff might have closed that cave with explosives (they often do) probably upon request from someone who wanted no further exploration. The area 51 sign that you dug out is a pretty good indication that the someone was a security officer from NTS. Find an old retired miner to look the site over for a little expertise on closings.
Looks like a very intriguing place. Thanks for sharing with us! I will say though, Kenny had stated the M Cave was very deep, and this cave is shallow. Still a very interesting spot!
most people in survival situations block up cave entrances to hold in heat from your fire and keep coyotes out. The single wall is likely also for wind or you can put a fire against it or closer to the cave and it blocks the wind.
*Take a look at this Scully*
Skully? Skully? Now where did she go?
This is my favorite mystery I would love to solve. I hope there's a chance Kenny made it he was such a kind soul and to find out the truth would make myself and many other happy to just know why and what happened.
His girlfriend said she's pretty confident he committed suicide, he had lost his job, was diagnosed with depression and refused to take his meds. She also claims his video camera was still in his place, so he went out there with no intentions of filming.
@@Happyburn I wouldnt trust the gf to have any info.
I seen a docu on this tonight and the g/f said she and Kenny went to see the movie "Birdman" the night before he set out on that last hike. I also think he committed suicide as his father before him. Although the daughter doesn't think he would take his own life.
@@randalthor6872 Seconded to this
I really think either they filled the cave and that’s why you can’t go any further in cause Kenny said he was able to stand inside meaning the cave had to have been at least 8ft tall for him to go in with out crouching cause I doubt anyone would go into a cave that looks like you can’t come back out or looks like a tight squeez
The sign answers all the questions we can could have because well not much else can be said. Well done sir
“Funny when you’re dead how people start listening”
-Lyrics from If I Die Young by The Band Perry
Very nicely done. Looks like an old mine entrance that has been back filled to keep people from going in the mine. If one feels uneasy in a mine or a cave, it's time to retreat and get out. But yet I heard wind coming from the cracks in the rocks.
Bro what. Its wind from the outside if its a door or trapdoor you wouldnt hear air but to test the theory just bring dynamite
@@chriswillis8069 that’s what I’m saying bro please check the link, there’s defo something there for sure.
@@chriswillis8069 but it's an area 51 base tho isnt it weird that Kenny found a cave right next to area 51 and got the weirdest feeling tried to go back to document it and just disappeared? That's not a coincidence and I believe that the government is hiding something and kenny found it and they killed him
@@ipeed found it?
@@ipeed that weird feeling he spoke about is extremely similar to that of an Active Denial System which is a non lethal defense used by the military to deter people from restricted areas. It makes you feel super hot and uncomfortable from a distance
I've been to dozens of military and government installations and there's never ever a secret hatch that's unguarded and just randomly situated where people can find it, outside controlled corridors. These facilities are contained and within layers of highly secured areas...
I figured as much as well. I don't believe any of the conspiracies. What needs to be secured or hidden the military probably secured just through normal means.
You never know, the government can be weird like that
I mean it's already weird to find the Area51 sign like he did
@@thetacoguyy Tell you what- you find an unguarded secret hatch outside the secure perimeters that leads to a secret base and I'll buy you a flock of awesome unicorns. Deal?
I agree
I SAW A HUMAN SKULL AT 3:21
WAS IT YOURS?!
Yes
I know I might be overthinking things but at 2:01 the wood seems to be in a triangle like a arrow pointing to something maybe? Seems odd to have random bits of woods laying around like it was a old mine portal and if it was there would be a shaft somewhere not far from it
I would of taken that Area 51 sign for proof the cave existed
I would recommend to go there with a really big crew and record all that and go in there with weapons. That is the best you can do.
So you think this is the 19 century where weapons would save you. The military would kill you without you seeing them probably
That’s suicide if they actually get into area 51
I hope you have a part 2 of the M cave!
That will be the 6th real M cave on you tube this week!