built this antenna vs two other of your designs. it out performed all the others, hands down. I have it in an attic around 15' above the ground and pickup stations perfectly in the 50 mile range. THANK YOU.
Helpful video. We just had a repack in Boston with the PBS stations moving from UHF to VHF channel 5. I was using a commercial UHF antenna in the attic. When I rescanned I lost the PBS HD channels. Using your suggestions I added two 19 1/2" wire elements to the antenna and now I can pick up all the broadcasts on RF channel 5. Thanks.
I would think a folded dipole for VHF would be a better choice since the impedance is closer to 300 ohms vs a dipole with the lower impedance. Wouldn't be hard to make. Worth a try?
Does the thickness of the wire matter much? I've got an old VHF antenna in my junk pile from 30 years ago, and I was thinking of cutting off and reusing the elements from that, which are much thicker and hollow. I think they are also aluminum?
Hello Mike, We had been corresponding back and forth through RUclips last weekend about VHF channels 2 and 6 out of Philadelphia 47 miles. I wanted to let you know that I've been unsuccessful so far. I made two different size dipoles. One with 27 3/8" legs and another with 15" legs. I was also trying to receive channels 11 and 13 from Scranton Pa almost 180 degrees in the opposite direction @ 43 miles. The stations are WYOU (CBS)and WBRE(NBC). Thus the reason for the shorter antenna. I can sometimes get those two stations with the Stealth Hawk I made by hanging it outside a bedroom window. So far nothing else has been able to pull them in. I didn't make the dipoles out of the 4 gauge ground wire, instead I made them out of thin wall 1/2" steel tubes. I just flattened the ends where I attached them to a 3/4 PVC tee and balun. My winegard boost xt amp made no difference at all. Do you think the copper wire would have been a better choice? The steel tubes did still pull in the local independent and PBS stations from Allentown @ 8 miles. So I know it is capable of receiving some OTA signals. All of them happen to be UHF though. I'm now thinking of building a VHF loop antenna out of 1/4" copper tube. I also got an RCA TVPRAMP1Z preamp today to try it with because of the separate VHF, UHF inputs it has which would eliminate me using a combiner. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Craig craigwwerner@gmail.com
Thanks for sending your email. Give me a couple days since the holidays are upon us and I'll send you a diagram of a new idea that might possibly work. In the mean time, think about the station most important to you that you want to pick up. We'll focus on that one. You might not be able to pull in every station due to frequency.
Hello Craig. I'm in the SJ area and WPVI (6) is about 43 miles for me as well. I was just wondering if you ever found an antenna design that brings in WPVI at our distance? A 1/2 wave dipole is right on the edge of working in my location. Thinking of trying a loop design or maybe even just making a simple yagi but wanted to see if you had any luck? Thanks, Carlo
I can get WPVI with the "Stealth Hawk" I made. When it is outside. Unfortunately I can't mount it permanently outside and I only get a weak signal occasionally from inside my attic
I was thinking about Wiring 2 telescoping antennas in to help with VHF. I have some Mid VHF, I would like to get. Each of these expands to 4 ft in either direction. I want to wire them in exactly like you have it. Honestly I don't know what I am doing. I just know that the high VHF wavelength is huge, If you have any advice or thoughts I'd like to hear it. I think you said you had some way of testing it. I have trial and error. Does this seem like it would work?
I know this video is over two years old so hopefully you get this and can answer my question. Wouldn't the VHF add on need to be run through a signal combiner with the UHF? From my experience the VHF add on will reduce the UHF signal. I have not put it through the test but I have some very low UHF signals that I could not afford to have them compromised for a few VHF channels tho I would love to add on the available VHF channels. Thanks!
It's been a while since I checked my channel but I got got it! I have never experimented with combiners or anything like that so I'm sorry I can't answer your question. I have never tried using a booster either but it could be another option. If you're not familiar (as I am not) with them you might do research on it first. Thanks
How did you attach the VHf elements so that you can move them around? Thank you for the info, I will try to add the VHf wires to my db8 antenna, the antennas direct VHf add on significantly altered my uhf reception.
Mike, thanks for the videos, very informative and well done. Question, I have 2 VHF stations channels 9 and 13. According to your chart, my wires for one station should be 15 7/8" long and the other channel should be 14" long. Which length would work the best in my case. Thanks.
I don't know your situation but what you could try first is the longer one that way, you can trim the wire to the shorter length to compare. Generally, I would build it for the station that comes in the worst. Thanks for your comment! :)
hi mike, nice video! Just for clarification, if i have a channel in my area that’s RF channel is 45 and the digital channel is 3, would that channel be UHF?
I live in close proximity (10-11 mile ) to a group of antennas in a metropolitan area. I built a 4 bay bow tie antenna without those fancy inner shapes your bow tie has . I assume mine is a design intended for UHF reception. So Question, why does my antenna still receive VHF so well? Is it because i am so close to the transmitting antenna thus almost any design is bound to work?
Thank you for your question. My best answer is yes but it also depends on the transmitting power of the stations in your area. I did an experiment mounting my bowtie (without the VHF add on) outside a few feet above my rooftop. My VHF channel came in just fine from the rooftop but not from my attic. And I don't want to expose my antenna to be struck by lightning (happened over 40 years ago when I was young) so I keep them in my attic and the VHF add on was a great solution. On a side note, the fractal shapes in my design may not even be needed if the antenna is mounted high and outside. But for attic and indoor applications where there may be a lot of interference, these fractals really help to stabalize the reception and was the inspiration behind creating my youtube channel in the first place.
You may need a seperate antenna connected to a switch for those low vhf channels. Maybe 1/4 wavelength size as a stand alone antenna. As I mentioned in the video, I don't have any of those channels in my area so I don't want steer you down the wrong road. I've been learning as I go and not a professional. I just share what I've learned here on my channel. Thanks for your comment. :)
I got most of my Channels using simple Roach Clips. I think I was able to pick 30-40 Miles only though. But YUP, Roach Clips. Make sure to connect them and it has to be 8.5 Inches. About 5 Clips Total. Some Channels, I have to add 1 extra, 6 Total! You can definitely use them as VHF Antenna.
Hi Mike. Great video. For VHF, I have channels 2, 4, 5, 8, 11, and 13. Channels 8, 11, and 13 are sometimes pixel-ated. How long should I cut my wires to accommodate those channels?
Are those the channels as they appear on your tv? If so, they are virtual channels which means they could be transmitting over different channel frequencies. To find out for sure, check out antennaweb.org and enter your city, state and zip to search for a pop up list of channels in your area. Look for the RF channels to see the channels they actually transmit over. Hope this helps
Once you find the rf channel you can to www.csgnetwork.com/tvfreqtable.html to get the frequencies then follow the formula provided in the video. You might need to split measurements in half if they’re too long. No guarantees though so best of luck.
Hi Mike...I have a 8 bank bow tie uhf antenna....in two sections....one pointed north...other south....I do have one movie channel I really miss....it is channel 13 and is about 65 miles away from antenna site. Would you recommend multiple 1/4 lengths or full lengths for channel 13 at this distance? Height of antenna is only about 20ft. I get a truckload of uhf stations now, but only occasionally get channel 13 and miss it dearly. Appreciate your comments....from Mick
Thanks for asking. The idea is basically the same. I built one for myself and is the one I currently use for my living room tv. I simply take the top part of the antenna at the 3" and bend them straight up and then convert the 5" to 14" and extend them straight out horizontally (14" for RF ch 13). Certainly inspiration for another video :)
Can you link to a dropbox for the plans? I want to have holes predrilled for a dozen cub scouts for a project. Can i use simple v shaped elements for uhf and 19 inche elements for vhf? I saw 4 inches between vhf and uhf and leads 18 inches total and crossing sides for each element level.
Thanks for the info. I'm going to give it a try. I'm using a larger 2 bay UHF/Hi-V fractal antenna (I have 1 Hi-VHF (12) tv channel in the local area) right now which works really good. It is basically a 3" star pattern which you see a lot on the internet. I live south of Richmond Va about 15 miles and according to my tv I'm getting a 75% signal. Not very scientific but, it's all I got. I actually pickup stations in the Norfolk/Williamsburg area which is probably at least 50-60 miles away. These come in anywhere from 0 to 75% depending on the weather. Since your antenna has 4 bays I'm hoping to see some gain in my reception. Just one question. Since I'm going to use the Hi-V antenna at the top I thought about combining the leading connecting wire(s) and the Hi-V portion so that I'll end up with a two wires about 32.5" instead of 2 18" leads and 2 14.5" wires per your instructions. Is the spacing between the lead connecting wires that critical?
John LeBlanc Thanks for your comment and thanks for subscribing! I’m currently working on doing another video for an antenna that may work better than this one. It offers a wide frequency sensitivity and should have no problem with RF 12. :)
DIY Projects With Mike LOL 😄. I've already started but, I'll stop. Are you going to change anything about the fractal loops? I was just getting ready to bend them into shape.
Well I tried the antenna this morning and it was not good. Channels 3.1-3.2 were 50%-75% with my old antenna and 0%-25% with your design. This is a station out toward Norfolk about 50-60 miles away. Channels 6.1 thru 6.3 were 75% with my old antenna and 50% with your design. This is a local Richmond station. Channels 12.1 thru 12.3 (Hi-V) were 75% with my old antenna and 0% with your design. My antenna doesn't rotate. I tried rotating your design and it never picked it up. After that I decided I'd done enough testing. Thanks again.
I learned everything on the internet. Check out radio frequencies and wavelengths on google. Everything is in metric and needs to be converted to standard measurements ( that is if you’re using standard measurements)
For any wave, velocity = frequency x wavelength. Solving for wavelength, divide both sides by frequency: Velocity / frequency = wavelength. Electromagnetic waves move at the speed of light, 3x10^8 meters/sec. I want a dipole for channel 5, that's about 76 MHz. Hertz are cycles or waves per second. So at Channel 5, a full wavelength is (3x10^8 m/s) / (76x10^6 waves/sec). seconds cancel out. 3/76 = 0.0395, 10^8 / 10^6 = 10^2 = 100, so the answer is 3.95 meters/wavelength. A half wave is half of that, 1.97M. You can add about 3% - 5% to that length to account for capacitive loading effects on a real world antenna. The 468/f formula is just using feet instead of meters and MHz instead of Hz, and including the fudge factor for capacitive loading.
Mike I'm looking to pull in channels 2 and 6 from Philadelphia approximately 43 miles away inside my attic. The dimensions on your chart, are they for each leg or overall length? Also what is the dimension of the gap between the two legs? I figure I'll start long and shorten if I need to. I want to use this separate from the stealth hawk antenna I made ( works much better than the gray hoverman and bowtie in my attic for unknown reasons ) and combine the signals with equal lengths of cables.I then have a Winegard Boost XT preamp sending the signal to my Tablo DVR.Any thoughts or concerns you have as I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks for your videos.
Let me add also that I purchased a ClearStream C5 antenna for VHF reception and basically got nothing, both outside and in my attic even though according to tvfool the signal strength is pretty good for those channels at my location.
If I understand correctly, the lengths are for each leg. I don't have a ch 2 in my area but I'm sure it's a BEAST! If it transmits at a high enough rate of power, you might get away with 1/8 wavelength or even 1/16 wavelength. The gap is 1 and a quaurter inches. You might even have to mount it outside but hopefully it works from your attic. Super interested to know how this works. Keep me updated! Thanks.
DIY Projects With Mike Looks like this thing is going to be 4 1/2 feet long. I'm going to make it out of 4 gauge copper ground wire and make some sort of PVC support to keep this thing from sagging. Thanks for your fast reply and I'll keep you posted on my progress.
Excellent choice of material. Hope it brings in both channels. I have been curious about low VHF for a long time. Do let me know how it goes. What channels are they by the way?
The two stations are: WPVI digital channel 6 ABC, Laff, Live Well KJWP digital channel 2 Me TV, Grit, Escape and Justice Network Both broadcasting from an antenna farm in Roxborough section of Philadelphia. I can currently receive UHF stations that broadcast at a lower power levelfrom the same area that are a much weaker power
A friend just gave me his winegard 8200u antenna. Its like 8 feet long with a large uhf and many vhf rods. I'm currently running a RCA751 after trying a 4bay which didnt perform as well. My question is the big Winguard worth the trouble of lowering my roof top pole for a test. comments appreciated from zip code 66523.
Well, all I can say is if you don't test it, you can't get results. Looking at your situation in your zip, I feel spoiled down here!! Seems like ALL of your stations are low power. If you run a test, I'm interested to know how it goes. BTW, which station is the furthest?
built this antenna vs two other of your designs. it out performed all the others, hands down. I have it in an attic around 15' above the ground and pickup stations perfectly in the 50 mile range. THANK YOU.
Thank you the exact information i was looking for without a bunch of b.s.
Great job
Helpful video. We just had a repack in Boston with the PBS stations moving from UHF to VHF channel 5. I was using a commercial UHF antenna in the attic. When I rescanned I lost the PBS HD channels. Using your suggestions I added two 19 1/2" wire elements to the antenna and now I can pick up all the broadcasts on RF channel 5. Thanks.
Yes!!! Sometimes homemade is better. Thank you for the comment
I would think a folded dipole for VHF would be a better choice since the impedance is closer to 300 ohms vs a dipole with the lower impedance. Wouldn't be hard to make. Worth a try?
Does the thickness of the wire matter much? I've got an old VHF antenna in my junk pile from 30 years ago, and I was thinking of cutting off and reusing the elements from that, which are much thicker and hollow. I think they are also aluminum?
Bud E those element you have should be fine. Thanks for the comment.
This video is 7 years old. Many channels have moved to the UHF band
Hello Mike,
We had been corresponding back and forth through RUclips last weekend about VHF channels 2 and 6 out of Philadelphia 47 miles. I wanted to let you know that I've been unsuccessful so far. I made two different size dipoles. One with 27 3/8" legs and another with 15" legs. I was also trying to receive channels 11 and 13 from Scranton Pa almost 180 degrees in the opposite direction @ 43 miles. The stations are WYOU (CBS)and WBRE(NBC). Thus the reason for the shorter antenna. I can sometimes get those two stations with the Stealth Hawk I made by hanging it outside a bedroom window. So far nothing else has been able to pull them in.
I didn't make the dipoles out of the 4 gauge ground wire, instead I made them out of thin wall 1/2" steel tubes. I just flattened the ends where I attached them to a 3/4 PVC tee and balun. My winegard boost xt amp made no difference at all. Do you think the copper wire would have been a better choice? The steel tubes did still pull in the local independent and PBS stations from Allentown @ 8 miles. So I know it is capable of receiving some OTA signals. All of them happen to be UHF though.
I'm now thinking of building a VHF loop antenna out of 1/4" copper tube. I also got an RCA TVPRAMP1Z preamp today to try it with because of the separate VHF, UHF inputs it has which would eliminate me using a combiner.
Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Craig craigwwerner@gmail.com
Thanks for sending your email. Give me a couple days since the holidays are upon us and I'll send you a diagram of a new idea that might possibly work. In the mean time, think about the station most important to you that you want to pick up. We'll focus on that one. You might not be able to pull in every station due to frequency.
Hello Craig. I'm in the SJ area and WPVI (6) is about 43 miles for me as well. I was just wondering if you ever found an antenna design that brings in WPVI at our distance? A 1/2 wave dipole is right on the edge of working in my location. Thinking of trying a loop design or maybe even just making a simple yagi but wanted to see if you had any luck?
Thanks,
Carlo
I can get WPVI with the "Stealth Hawk" I made. When it is outside. Unfortunately I can't mount it permanently outside and I only get a weak signal occasionally from inside my attic
I was thinking about Wiring 2 telescoping antennas in to help with VHF. I have some Mid VHF, I would like to get. Each of these expands to 4 ft in either direction. I want to wire them in exactly like you have it. Honestly I don't know what I am doing. I just know that the high VHF wavelength is huge, If you have any advice or thoughts I'd like to hear it. I think you said you had some way of testing it. I have trial and error. Does this seem like it would work?
I know this video is over two years old so hopefully you get this and can answer my question. Wouldn't the VHF add on need to be run through a signal combiner with the UHF? From my experience the VHF add on will reduce the UHF signal. I have not put it through the test but I have some very low UHF signals that I could not afford to have them compromised for a few VHF channels tho I would love to add on the available VHF channels.
Thanks!
It's been a while since I checked my channel but I got got it! I have never experimented with combiners or anything like that so I'm sorry I can't answer your question. I have never tried using a booster either but it could be another option. If you're not familiar (as I am not) with them you might do research on it first. Thanks
How did you attach the VHf elements so that you can move them around? Thank you for the info, I will try to add the VHf wires to my db8 antenna, the antennas direct VHf add on significantly altered my uhf reception.
Please sir how can i make 2 bowtie with VHF elements do i need to cross or no need only stirgh cord to etch one .. with all my respect ..
thank you for sharing I tying one but I might de to far down in the valley
On the chart you provided, are the lengths one leg (one side) or the total length?
One length I believe
Mike, thanks for the videos, very informative and well done. Question, I have 2 VHF stations channels 9 and 13. According to your chart, my wires for one station should be 15 7/8" long and the other channel should be 14" long. Which length would work the best in my case. Thanks.
I don't know your situation but what you could try first is the longer one that way, you can trim the wire to the shorter length to compare. Generally, I would build it for the station that comes in the worst. Thanks for your comment! :)
hi mike,
nice video! Just for clarification, if i have a channel in my area that’s RF channel is 45 and the digital channel is 3, would that channel be UHF?
JJohn Hipp
Yes. Channel 3 is the virtual channel it appears on. Channel 45 is the actual channel frequency. :)
DIY Projects With Mike ok thanks for the quick reply
Hi Mike, THANK YOU!
I live in close proximity (10-11 mile ) to a group of antennas in a metropolitan area. I built a 4 bay bow tie antenna without those fancy inner shapes your bow tie has . I assume mine is a design intended for UHF reception. So Question, why does my antenna still receive VHF so well? Is it because i am so close to the transmitting antenna thus almost any design is bound to work?
Thank you for your question. My best answer is yes but it also depends on the transmitting power of the stations in your area. I did an experiment mounting my bowtie (without the VHF add on) outside a few feet above my rooftop. My VHF channel came in just fine from the rooftop but not from my attic. And I don't want to expose my antenna to be struck by lightning (happened over 40 years ago when I was young) so I keep them in my attic and the VHF add on was a great solution.
On a side note, the fractal shapes in my design may not even be needed if the antenna is mounted high and outside. But for attic and indoor applications where there may be a lot of interference, these fractals really help to stabalize the reception and was the inspiration behind creating my youtube channel in the first place.
When I mount my Antennas Direct style db2 UHF antenna on a metal mast I get my local VHF. Maybe the metal mast contributes some VHF dipole effect.
Hi Mike
Also trying to get channels 2 and 6 out of Philadelphia , I am about 40 miles away ....
You may need a seperate antenna connected to a switch for those low vhf channels. Maybe 1/4 wavelength size as a stand alone antenna. As I mentioned in the video, I don't have any of those channels in my area so I don't want steer you down the wrong road. I've been learning as I go and not a professional. I just share what I've learned here on my channel. Thanks for your comment. :)
I got most of my Channels using simple Roach Clips. I think I was able to pick 30-40 Miles only though. But YUP, Roach Clips. Make sure to connect them and it has to be 8.5 Inches. About 5 Clips Total. Some Channels, I have to add 1 extra, 6 Total! You can definitely use them as VHF Antenna.
Hi Mike. Great video. For VHF, I have channels 2, 4, 5, 8, 11, and 13. Channels 8, 11, and 13 are sometimes pixel-ated. How long should I cut my wires to accommodate those channels?
Are those the channels as they appear on your tv? If so, they are virtual channels which means they could be transmitting over different channel frequencies. To find out for sure, check out antennaweb.org and enter your city, state and zip to search for a pop up list of channels in your area. Look for the RF channels to see the channels they actually transmit over. Hope this helps
Once you find the rf channel you can to www.csgnetwork.com/tvfreqtable.html to get the frequencies then follow the formula provided in the video. You might need to split measurements in half if they’re too long. No guarantees though so best of luck.
Hi Mike...I have a 8 bank bow tie uhf antenna....in two sections....one pointed north...other south....I do have one movie channel I really miss....it is channel 13 and is about 65 miles away from antenna site. Would you recommend multiple 1/4 lengths or full lengths for channel 13 at this distance? Height of antenna is only about 20ft. I get a truckload of uhf stations now, but only occasionally get channel 13 and miss it dearly. Appreciate your comments....from Mick
8 bank? Does that mean 2 - 4-bays at 8 elements each?
How would you integrate the VHF antenna into the Tuxedo version?
Thanks for asking. The idea is basically the same. I built one for myself and is the one I currently use for my living room tv. I simply take the top part of the antenna at the 3" and bend them straight up and then convert the 5" to 14" and extend them straight out horizontally (14" for RF ch 13). Certainly inspiration for another video :)
Can you link to a dropbox for the plans? I want to have holes predrilled for a dozen cub scouts for a project. Can i use simple v shaped elements for uhf and 19 inche elements for vhf? I saw 4 inches between vhf and uhf and leads 18 inches total and crossing sides for each element level.
Yes you can use 19”
Sorry, can’t link to dropbox
You can use V shape if you like
Thanks for the info. I'm going to give it a try. I'm using a larger 2 bay UHF/Hi-V fractal antenna (I have 1 Hi-VHF (12) tv channel in the local area) right now which works really good. It is basically a 3" star pattern which you see a lot on the internet. I live south of Richmond Va about 15 miles and according to my tv I'm getting a 75% signal. Not very scientific but, it's all I got. I actually pickup stations in the Norfolk/Williamsburg area which is probably at least 50-60 miles away. These come in anywhere from 0 to 75% depending on the weather. Since your antenna has 4 bays I'm hoping to see some gain in my reception.
Just one question. Since I'm going to use the Hi-V antenna at the top I thought about combining the leading connecting wire(s) and the Hi-V portion so that I'll end up with a two wires about 32.5" instead of 2 18" leads and 2 14.5" wires per your instructions. Is the spacing between the lead connecting wires that critical?
John LeBlanc
Thanks for your comment and thanks for subscribing!
I’m currently working on doing another video for an antenna that may work better than this one. It offers a wide frequency sensitivity and should have no problem with RF 12. :)
DIY Projects With Mike LOL 😄. I've already started but, I'll stop. Are you going to change anything about the fractal loops? I was just getting ready to bend them into shape.
I would say to go ahead with it. It'll take me a few days or so to make the video and publish it. The simplicity may surprise you. :)
Thanks again. You're just like me it seems. My wife keeps telling me the antenna we have is okay but, I can't seem to let it go : D
Well I tried the antenna this morning and it was not good. Channels 3.1-3.2 were 50%-75% with my old antenna and 0%-25% with your design. This is a station out toward Norfolk about 50-60 miles away. Channels 6.1 thru 6.3 were 75% with my old antenna and 50% with your design. This is a local Richmond station. Channels 12.1 thru 12.3 (Hi-V) were 75% with my old antenna and 0% with your design. My antenna doesn't rotate. I tried rotating your design and it never picked it up. After that I decided I'd done enough testing. Thanks again.
How did u get those formulas? Id like to understand
I learned everything on the internet. Check out radio frequencies and wavelengths on google. Everything is in metric and needs to be converted to standard measurements ( that is if you’re using standard measurements)
For any wave, velocity = frequency x wavelength. Solving for wavelength, divide both sides by frequency: Velocity / frequency = wavelength. Electromagnetic waves move at the speed of light, 3x10^8 meters/sec. I want a dipole for channel 5, that's about 76 MHz. Hertz are cycles or waves per second. So at Channel 5, a full wavelength is (3x10^8 m/s) / (76x10^6 waves/sec). seconds cancel out. 3/76 = 0.0395, 10^8 / 10^6 = 10^2 = 100, so the answer is 3.95 meters/wavelength. A half wave is half of that, 1.97M. You can add about 3% - 5% to that length to account for capacitive loading effects on a real world antenna. The 468/f formula is just using feet instead of meters and MHz instead of Hz, and including the fudge factor for capacitive loading.
Mike I'm looking to pull in channels 2 and 6 from Philadelphia approximately 43 miles away inside my attic. The dimensions on your chart, are they for each leg or overall length? Also what is the dimension of the gap between the two legs? I figure I'll start long and shorten if I need to. I want to use this separate from the stealth hawk antenna I made ( works much better than the gray hoverman and bowtie in my attic for unknown reasons ) and combine the signals with equal lengths of cables.I then have a Winegard Boost XT preamp sending the signal to my Tablo DVR.Any thoughts or concerns you have as I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks for your videos.
Let me add also that I purchased a ClearStream C5 antenna for VHF reception and basically got nothing, both outside and in my attic even though according to tvfool the signal strength is pretty good for those channels at my location.
If I understand correctly, the lengths are for each leg. I don't have a ch 2 in my area but I'm sure it's a BEAST! If it transmits at a high enough rate of power, you might get away with 1/8 wavelength or even 1/16 wavelength. The gap is 1 and a quaurter inches. You might even have to mount it outside but hopefully it works from your attic.
Super interested to know how this works. Keep me updated!
Thanks.
DIY Projects With Mike
Looks like this thing is going to be 4 1/2 feet long. I'm going to make it out of 4 gauge copper ground wire and make some sort of PVC support to keep this thing from sagging.
Thanks for your fast reply and I'll keep you posted on my progress.
Excellent choice of material. Hope it brings in both channels. I have been curious about low VHF for a long time. Do let me know how it goes. What channels are they by the way?
The two stations are:
WPVI digital channel 6 ABC, Laff, Live Well
KJWP digital channel 2 Me TV, Grit, Escape and Justice Network
Both broadcasting from an antenna farm in Roxborough section of Philadelphia.
I can currently receive UHF stations that broadcast at a lower power levelfrom the same area that are a much weaker power
A friend just gave me his winegard 8200u antenna. Its like 8 feet long with a large uhf and many vhf rods. I'm currently running a RCA751 after trying a 4bay which didnt perform as well. My question is the big Winguard worth the trouble of lowering my roof top pole for a test. comments appreciated from zip code 66523.
Well, all I can say is if you don't test it, you can't get results. Looking at your situation in your zip, I feel spoiled down here!! Seems like ALL of your stations are low power. If you run a test, I'm interested to know how it goes. BTW, which station is the furthest?
Just looked at the winegard. What a beast!
What is the space between the two elements and if you needed rf channel 13, would that be two elements at 7 inches each?
2 elements at 14 inches each :)
@@DIYProjectsWithMike That was my original assumption, although there must be a gain limitation on vhf at long range, lol.
inspired by one and only @dannyshodge