🇷🇺Russian translations through google translate to help the Russian fans understand:🇷🇺 Хотите помочь вам, россиянам, понять содержание, поэтому переведите здесь с помощью Google Translate. Напишите краткое изложение. Нисканен и Большунов лучшие, потому что они способны перемещать свое тело дальше за повторение, чем их конкуренты. Они вытягивают ноги в большей степени, чем другие. Важны мобильность и сила. Для улучшения баланса и переноса веса следует тренироваться на беговых лыжах без использования палок. Время от времени занимайтесь спортом по 20 минут без заклинаний. Нисканен меняет свою частоту. иногда у него потолок длиннее, чем в других случаях. У него хорошая осанка, и он смотрит вперед, на тропу, а не вниз по склону. Его руки находятся в идеальном положении: не слишком далеко вперед и не слишком близко к телу. Он время от времени роняет палки и у него относительно прямые ноги. Также важно не совершать слишком много движений вверх и вниз верхней частью тела, а сохранять ее устойчивость. а также не поворачивайте верхнюю часть тела из стороны в сторону. Я думаю, что между Нисканеном и Большуновым, кто лучший в диагонали, очень даже. Лично я вообще считаю Большунова лучшим. Надеюсь, это было полезно. С уважением к человеку, который монтирует видео.
Lifting foot high at the end of the stroke allows higher energy transfer when he brings this foot forward. Think about pendulum that is lifted higher - it has higher potential energy that upon release will be converted to higher kinetic energy meaning further distance traveled. This of course requires good flexibility, balance and perfect timing when kicking. Basically you get “free” energy return from the kick when you are swinging your foot from further back.
I agree with the point about energy transfer, but I disagree with the concept of "lifting." Lifting implies using calories to pull something up against gravity. As my comment indicates, I think the foot comes off the snow because of other, bigger forces in the technique. It's a result, not a conscious effort.
Wonderful analysis. Regarding the upright head position, I find that I slip less with the head upright, I think because I have more weight directly over the skis and the head weighs a lot. Regarding the pop during pole recovery, it definitely gives me more reliable kick and, I think, a boost in glide. Whether true or not, the sensation gives me confidence in my striding. I teach it to my clients and they struggle with incorporating it initially. Last comment, I'm 81 and have skated for 30 years but now find that technique very taxing over longer distances >30K. So I'm grateful for the classic technique which I can still sustain for 54K in the American Birkebeiner.
I think the lifting of the foot so high behind is a result of weight going down on the ski before the kick. The more movement downwards before the kick = more movement back up after the kick
Since PyeongChang I consider Niskanen the best ever technician in classic style, and it was easy to see because he had to face successively Potoranin an d Bolshunov... I'm ok to Rikardsson as well. Great explanation here, thank you very much.
Very good video and nice compartilization of analysis points which provides a lot of discussion for coaches/instructors as to the finer points of technique and conditioning that result in the enjoyment of classic skiing. Thank you for this and look forward to more done in this manner. I really like your inclusion of mobility excercises.
Just as a drill I've been having skiers extend more and raise the foot with slightly bent knee. It forces complete and natural weight transfer. Bending the knee a little on the extended knee also compensates for the tight quads and gluts you mention in the video. I also recommend it to those that get lower back pain from classic technique. I think you would agree that the extension isn't really doing anything for speed itself, it's a symptom of what happened before. But besides forcing you to get more over the glide ski so you don't tip backwards, I wonder if there could be anything to the fact that a significant bit of weight is moving forward at a different and later cadence than the rest of the body? Then it's driven forward with a greater swing. Not sure, but personally I don't emphasize a big extension in my coaching. Excellent analysis, I love your videos!
They aren't lifting their legs in the back at all. It's a result of a counter balance of the forward swing of the arms and the lean of the upper body and forward hip motion as they glide on the ski. The leg in back is hanging like a limp noodle, relaxed. Try it and you'll feel it if you can balance and relax gliding on one ski.
Super najz!! Always a pleasure watching The Great Ivo❤Niskanen. But the wild russian Bolshunov its a better allround skier. Maybe the best? I wonder how his form/motivation respond not competing i WC against the norwegians
He's been racing a lot in Russia against other Russians. They put on a lot of first class races probably to make up for a lack of WC races. They are available on RUclips. Type in something like "2024 XC Ski Races in Russia."
I don't think Niskenen "lifts" his feet. I believe each foot elevates off the snow naturally because his hips are forward and, especially, because his knee is driven forward. This posture appears to be efficient, and it also results in the trailing foot/ski coming off the snow. I believe that no Nordic technique is aided by lifting the feet; rather, a foot/ski comes off the snow due to some other motion. In skating, it's the strong side push that lands the skier on the opposite ski with the pushing ski coming off the snow "by itself," so to speak.
Vladmir Smirnov was the best. He had a connection to the kick wax that very few have. I've watched countless videos of him and not once did I ever see him slip.
I was very pleased when I saw Daniel Richardson win a classic race, I think it was in Drammen. Very beautiful diagonal technique! I dont remember exactly why I liked it, but it might have been long movements like Niskanen and Bolshunov.
🇷🇺Russian translations through google translate to help the Russian fans understand:🇷🇺
Хотите помочь вам, россиянам, понять содержание, поэтому переведите здесь с помощью Google Translate. Напишите краткое изложение. Нисканен и Большунов лучшие, потому что они способны перемещать свое тело дальше за повторение, чем их конкуренты. Они вытягивают ноги в большей степени, чем другие. Важны мобильность и сила. Для улучшения баланса и переноса веса следует тренироваться на беговых лыжах без использования палок. Время от времени занимайтесь спортом по 20 минут без заклинаний. Нисканен меняет свою частоту. иногда у него потолок длиннее, чем в других случаях. У него хорошая осанка, и он смотрит вперед, на тропу, а не вниз по склону. Его руки находятся в идеальном положении: не слишком далеко вперед и не слишком близко к телу. Он время от времени роняет палки и у него относительно прямые ноги. Также важно не совершать слишком много движений вверх и вниз верхней частью тела, а сохранять ее устойчивость. а также не поворачивайте верхнюю часть тела из стороны в сторону. Я думаю, что между Нисканеном и Большуновым, кто лучший в диагонали, очень даже. Лично я вообще считаю Большунова лучшим. Надеюсь, это было полезно. С уважением к человеку, который монтирует видео.
Thanks, your English is clear enough 😉
Lifting foot high at the end of the stroke allows higher energy transfer when he brings this foot forward. Think about pendulum that is lifted higher - it has higher potential energy that upon release will be converted to higher kinetic energy meaning further distance traveled. This of course requires good flexibility, balance and perfect timing when kicking. Basically you get “free” energy return from the kick when you are swinging your foot from further back.
I agree with the point about energy transfer, but I disagree with the concept of "lifting." Lifting implies using calories to pull something up against gravity. As my comment indicates, I think the foot comes off the snow because of other, bigger forces in the technique. It's a result, not a conscious effort.
Safe to say that Niskanen is the greatest classic skier ever? Surely up there.
Wonderful analysis. Regarding the upright head position, I find that I slip less with the head upright, I think because I have more weight directly over the skis and the head weighs a lot.
Regarding the pop during pole recovery, it definitely gives me more reliable kick and, I think, a boost in glide. Whether true or not, the sensation gives me confidence in my striding. I teach it to my clients and they struggle with incorporating it initially.
Last comment, I'm 81 and have skated for 30 years but now find that technique very taxing over longer distances >30K. So I'm grateful for the classic technique which I can still sustain for 54K in the American Birkebeiner.
You sir are an animal if you’re still doing the Birkie at your age! I aspire to be like you in 40 years.
A way of relaxing
I think the lifting of the foot so high behind is a result of weight going down on the ski before the kick. The more movement downwards before the kick = more movement back up after the kick
Since PyeongChang I consider Niskanen the best ever technician in classic style, and it was easy to see because he had to face successively Potoranin an
d Bolshunov... I'm ok to Rikardsson as well. Great explanation here, thank you very much.
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So true! The @johannmuhlegg69 video is amazing
Amazing video once again. No doubt the best diagonal technique out there.
Very good video and nice compartilization of analysis points which provides a lot of discussion for coaches/instructors as to the finer points of technique and conditioning that result in the enjoyment of classic skiing. Thank you for this and look forward to more done in this manner. I really like your inclusion of mobility excercises.
excellent explanation and illustration. Thanks
The best classic skier ever Gund. The finns always had that high pre kick. No poles training is very common at the club level. You forgot doping btw.
Excellent video! I want to go out and practice now.
Just as a drill I've been having skiers extend more and raise the foot with slightly bent knee. It forces complete and natural weight transfer. Bending the knee a little on the extended knee also compensates for the tight quads and gluts you mention in the video. I also recommend it to those that get lower back pain from classic technique. I think you would agree that the extension isn't really doing anything for speed itself, it's a symptom of what happened before. But besides forcing you to get more over the glide ski so you don't tip backwards, I wonder if there could be anything to the fact that a significant bit of weight is moving forward at a different and later cadence than the rest of the body? Then it's driven forward with a greater swing. Not sure, but personally I don't emphasize a big extension in my coaching.
Excellent analysis, I love your videos!
Wow! Try to analyse technic of Alexey Chervotkin too 😉
It seems that lifting the kick foot higher means that he does more gliding per stroke, and he swings the back leg forward with more force.
Can you do an analysis of Therese Johaug’s skate technique? I’m wondering why her high tempo works so well
Lifting the leg high allows you to simultaneously stretch your arm more further forward and remain balance.
Tightness in the upper body maybe also caused by low levels of grip. If your skis are gripping well it's a lot easier to keep things relaxed.
I’ve learned that sometimes they are lifting the feet more because it give a brake to the posterior portion of the leg , ischio , glute etc…
They aren't lifting their legs in the back at all. It's a result of a counter balance of the forward swing of the arms and the lean of the upper body and forward hip motion as they glide on the ski. The leg in back is hanging like a limp noodle, relaxed. Try it and you'll feel it if you can balance and relax gliding on one ski.
Это техника классического хода которой обучали и научно обосновали в советском союзе! Давно забытое старое!
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What do you think about a slight twist in your hips while striding? I have heard it makes setting your wax easier but find it hard to do on race day.
Don’t twist. Not in classic, not in skating. In no scenarios
How do I avoid a late kick?
Poltoranin. Ruka 15km handicap pursuit. The most elegant classic technique you’ve ever seen.
Yeah, Polto had next level elegance.
Super najz!! Always a pleasure watching The Great Ivo❤Niskanen. But the wild russian Bolshunov its a better allround skier. Maybe the best? I wonder how his form/motivation respond not competing i WC against the norwegians
He's been racing a lot in Russia against other Russians. They put on a lot of first class races probably to make up for a lack of WC races. They are available on RUclips. Type in something like "2024 XC Ski Races in Russia."
Bolshunoooov!)
I don't think Niskenen "lifts" his feet. I believe each foot elevates off the snow naturally because his hips are forward and, especially, because his knee is driven forward. This posture appears to be efficient, and it also results in the trailing foot/ski coming off the snow. I believe that no Nordic technique is aided by lifting the feet; rather, a foot/ski comes off the snow due to some other motion. In skating, it's the strong side push that lands the skier on the opposite ski with the pushing ski coming off the snow "by itself," so to speak.
Daniel Rikardsson and maby Vladimir Smirnoff
Vladmir Smirnov was the best. He had a connection to the kick wax that very few have. I've watched countless videos of him and not once did I ever see him slip.
I was very pleased when I saw Daniel Richardson win a classic race, I think it was in Drammen. Very beautiful diagonal technique! I dont remember exactly why I liked it, but it might have been long movements like Niskanen and Bolshunov.
I'm not sure... It's extremely close, but I'd probably say it's a tie.
imho niskanen has the best diagonal technique but bolshunov is the best skiier even in classic
Best ever classic skier. No doubt, Daniel Richardsson Sweden. Winner of Holmenkollen etc. Even Petter Northug have said that.
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We are talking about technique. Not wins. Whynare you laughing. What a joke of a channel 😆😅😅
@@Anon-oy1sf i am sure you know more than Petter Northug
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Looks to me he has long legs.
If you look down your butt will stick out.
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