How to Install Home Assistant (Supervised) on a Synology NAS
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2022
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Been playing with loads of Home Assistant Synology options and this is by far the best way AND the best tutorial. Thank you.
Thanks so much! Really appreciate the kind words!
Easy to follow, easy to use, easy to set up. Thanks!
Excellent video Frank! Thanks so much for sharing. Always learn something new from your content. Great job!
Thanks, Tony! Really appreciate you watching!
Thanx for yet another amazing tutorial. Worked like a charm straight away.
Thanks for this tutorial! I’ve been trying for days to install hacs on docker home assistant to no avail. Didn’t know it could also be done in virtual machine! Great work!
Wow...how did i miss this one??? Excellent video Frank! Awesome!!!
Thanks, Avi! Appreciate you watching!
Very nice tutorial. Thank you from Italy 😊
So helpful. surprised this doesn't have more thumbs up. Thank you!
Agreed 🎉
thank you! clearly explained and very helpful
So helpful, thank you !
It's really helpful .Thanks sooo much.
Great video! I’ve aleays wondered why my HA(docker) doesn’t have add-ons, etc. This video has not only answered it, but also provided solutions in a very simple way! Definitely worth subscribing to your channel.
installing / configuring right now, Thank You
Super helpful. Thank you
Many thanks! The only one that worked at first shot. Exhaustive directions to obtain wanted result.
Thank you very much! I am glad to hear that it worked!
great video thank you!!!
This answers many of the questions I had.... LOL
thanks a lot!! just what i needed. W
thx for your help! 🙂
Great vid thanks
Fantastic Thank you very much, never like Docker for these things because of the Bridge that is difficult to create to get isolated IP's
It's not difficult at all. Static IP's are issued through the modem.
Great video, thanks! However, Synology RAM shows some crazy numbers like 87% making my NAS almost impossible to use 😢
Thanks for the video! I’m just starting to look into home assistant running on synology. Which is better, running through docker or vm?
The main benefit of running it in a VM is that you can run the supervised version of HA. If it's in Docker, you generally are running the non-supervised version. Supervised version is easier to use in general.
I had home assistant running in docker and it suddenly disappeared from my network and I tried restarting it a few times and nothing. I followed this video and installed HA and I'm starting over, not very happy but grateful for this video.
Any insight into what happened?
Amazing Video, thank you so much for your help.
I super new to these types of home automations but home assistant looks amazing! Installing Home Assistant this way, how would we add integrations that are not in the searchable tab (or that are not working)? thanks for all your help!
Thanks! The way you add them is generally in the "integrations" tab. You then search for it and will see all the integrations!
@@WunderTechTutorials thanks for the tip! I've noticed that I can't find some of the plug integrations I'm looking for (govee & the switchbot integration doesn't work) I've read that I should be look to download from "HACS" or use "SSH"? But then I get super confused 😅😅
@@chriscarpio1 This should help! www.wundertech.net/how-to-install-hacs-on-home-assistant/
@@WunderTechTutorials amazing! thank you ill do some studying!
follow the perfect tutorial but when i make import ill get error....any solution?...........fix it must unistall virtual machine manager from synology and reinstall it and it works like a charm ....again perfect tutorial ;)
Great video! How much ram does home assistant need? I have a ds220+ with 2GB RAM, it ́s enough for home assistant?
Thanks! It might be tough to run it if the NAS only has 2GB of memory, but you can always upgrade the memory f you'd like!
I followed your other video and already have Home Assistant installed and working in a Docker container, but I'd much rather have this method setup and working so I could use Supervisor. My questions are:
1. How do I uninstall the Docker version/container successfully and completely (so it doesn't interfere with this version/method) before I install Home Assistant using the method illustrated here?
2. I have the Sonoff Universal Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus Gateway with Antenna plugged into the back of my DS218+ and working fine with the Docker container version installed already, will it keep working if I switch to this VMM version, or is there something else I will also have to do?
Thanks for all the videos, they are excellent and I've found them really helpful and inspiring.
1. You can just delete the container and the folder that's mapped and everything will be deleted.
2. You'll have to pass the USB through to the virtual machine (it's in the setup option and highlighted in the video).
I followed your tutorial and it worked a charm, but I don't think my Sonoff Universal Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle is being recognised when I plug it into the USB port on the back of my DS218+ as it's not showing up at all on the OVERVIEW tab within Homeassistant? Could you possibly explain how to install it if necessary, or point to a reliable tutorial that I could look at please? And thanks very much for all your help and tutorials, they're great!
Did you enable the Virtual USB Controller option in VMM? Shown in this tutorial: www.wundertech.net/how-to-set-up-home-assistant-supervised-on-a-synology-nas/
I have a DS220j so I can't do an virtual machine. Would you update the instructions for docker but the new Container Manager version?
Could I use this same method on an Intel NUC running BULLSEYE?
This seems cleaner, easier to back up and still use the box for Linux"things".
Thanks for you work. 👍
I unfortunately don't have any experience with Bullseye, so I can't say one way or the other. Sorry!
Hi! Great video! All it works but USB option are grey, I read on synology forum and I should enable the high availability but it is also disable. I don't know the reason why? Do you have any idea?
Thanks! I'm unfortunately not sure. You shouldn't have to enable HA for the USB passthrough though.
Hi I am successfully set up my HA on my Synology Nas, Thanks for your sharing.
But there's a question ,where can I find the "config" file ?
Hopefully this helps! www.home-assistant.io/getting-started/configuration/
So how would I go about removing the container and the whole docker deal in general? I installed it using this method so now I don't need the other way.
If you don't need any of the data in the container, delete the home assistant folder (inside of the docker folder) and then delete the container. That's it!
Hello how are you ? I followed your tutorial and everything went well, but my installation has some peculiarities. I have a Zigbee network through the ConbeeII dongle and I can't find it on Synology. Another problem was that all add-ons are turned off. If you can help thank you. Congratulations on your channel, I really like it!!
I don't have any of that hardware so I'm afraid I won't be much of a help, but I would try and test if it's accessible at all from the NAS, then confirm it's on the same subnet.
Andre, is the dongle visible now? I have a similar set up.
Hi, You said can do most things in the core version, I am trying to add a calculation to a card, Solar - grid = consumption, editing the yawl it seems is necessary? With no add-on options, no file editor. Is there a way to do this kind of thing without supervisor. Might try the VM method but just trying to keep it simple & understand VM is much more demanding. DS220+
I wish I could be more help, but since I don't use that specific integration, I'm not entirely sure and don't want to lead you down the wrong path. Sorry 😞
@@WunderTechTutorials Many thanks for taking the time to reply. I think I can use an editor via SSH so might give that a go but all new to me. thanks again.
Hey man
Hope all is well. I ran into a little pickle here. I was able to successfully install HA on my Synology NAS using virtual machine. All worked great. I was able to add my Zwave dongle and added the Zwave js integration also. Now I can’t add my Zigbee sonoff dongle cuz HA doesn’t see it. Am I doing something wrong? My NAS has 2 usb slots, so used both but it can’t find the sonoff either.
any help would be appreciated
I haven't ever tried to use those dongles so I can't say for certain, but the VM should just pass them through. If it's two separate ones and one is working and the other isn't, I'd switch them (in the USB ports) and see if it sees the other device. If it is, it's most likely just a USB pass-through issue.
Thanks for a super video. My virtual machine is running and gets an ip, but when i try the adress it doesnt show anything (The website cannot be accessed) any surrgestions?
Are you using HTTP?
Thank you. what I can’t figure out is how you would fix the machine_id on a cloned home assistant virtual machine so that they don’t come up with the same ip address. You know, production vm and test vm.
I believe there is a way to change the IP address in the supervisor, but since I'm not running an installation where I have it working, I can't tell you how to do it.
I wish I had a suggestion, but since I haven't actually migrated a HA VM before, I'm not even sure where to start. I'll see if I can find any info on it.
Thank you so much for this! I am unfortuantely running into an issue I'd be grateful for any help with.
I have noticed if my NAS shutsdown unexpectedly due to termporary power outage or internet connection loss the VM doesnt automatically reboot with the NAS (needs a manual start when i log into NAS) and every time it is booted up the IP address changes randomly so the home assistant is never found automatically by my devices and I have to check which IP address the VM gave home assistant to find it again. I's appreciate any help to keep the IP address static and if there is a way to autorestart the VM on NAS Startup? TIA
You should invest in a UPS (uninterrupted power supply) for your NAS, and creating static IP addresses is dependent on your router. If you google your specific router brand (and/or ISP provider) and "static IP", you should find your answers
@@thisbretthall wow thank you so much I can't believe I overlooked the router to set the static IP for the VM. I just did it and feel such a fool. hopefully it sticks. Ill be looking into a UPS, seems like I need to do some reasrach for it, its happening a lot more than I expected living in the UK. Thank you again!
Sorry for not getting to this in time but glad you got it fixed! Definitely look into a UPS!
@@WunderTechTutorials thank you!
hi, I followed your tutorial (very good stuff, nice job), I set up home assistant for the last two days. this afternoon, i was setting up the lovelace interface with cast. I needed to modify the yaml config file and other stuff. sudently HA didn't work, I don't understand, i saw the VM was running, but when I clic on connect on VMM, I had a message error that indicate that i can't connect to the server. I btry to re-install HA, but same stuff .... I am so tired that i configured a lot of stuff, I tryed to SSH, but it told me that my psw was wrong (I probably forgoted it). I don't know if it's a problem from VMM or HA ... If someone has an idea ? I shearch all over the internet and nothing ... or at least to get my config save ? I don't know where are the VMM files stored ?
If you changed the config file in HA, it's almost certainly that. HA doesn't play well with config files that aren't formatted properly and it basically just becomes inaccessible. Not the best option, but if you have any backups, that's your best bet. Also, moving forward, try and take snapshots of the server before making any major changes so you can roll back.
Interesting - what is best? Ha on raspberry Pi 4 or on synology?
No right or wrong answer, both are viable options!
@@WunderTechTutorials does my synology have to be on the same Wifi? Or can I have the nas on my winter location and use it to control my summer location?
@@caspersn1971 Yes, outside of having a site-to-site VPN, you won't be able to connect to those other devices.
@@WunderTechTutorials thanks 🏆
Great video! I setup my HA this way but experience one problem. As soon as I physically unplug the Sonof Zigbee dongle it cannot locate it again in HA! If I re-do the whole VM setup of HA like in the video, then the dongle is found again. Anyone has any advice on how to physically move (unplug/plug) the Sonof Dongle in my NAS again? Much appreciated!
A force shutdown seemed to have done the trick. Interesting that a "normal" restart doesn't make HA find the Sonof dongle again. Any ideas...?
Definitely strange. So a normal reboot loses the connection, but a forced reboot brings it back? What about unplugging/replugging it when you do a normal reboot?
How can you point HA to a different vlan where your IoT devices reside?
You'll have to set up a new network in VMM and use the VLAN tag. You can then assign the network to HA.
thank for your video.but My error is that “return form supervisor : system is not ready with state : setup
I haven't seen that error. Anywhere in specific that you're getting it?
Shutdown and restart the instance from Vm manager
Great Video! But how can you create a access with Https for Home Assistant on this virtual machine. Proxy reserve doesn`t work for me.
A reverse proxy is the best way that I've personally used. I'd try and see if you could get that working.
Thanks for your time. I have setup the reverse proxy correct(I look over and over again), but when I access ha.xxxx.synology.me it goes to my DSM login instead of my HA login. It looks reverse proxy don't work.
Any ideas?
@@user-yi1ss5fi6h The only time I've seen that happen is when you set it as HTTPS and are using HTTP when you type in the URL. Can you ensure you're using HTTPS?
@@WunderTechTutorials
Yes in fact, I try both.(it makes me crazy)
I dont understand why the traffic dont walk through the proxy server but still stops on DSM login page.
Settings:
Router 443-> 5001
Proxy:
source
https ha.xxx.synology.me
gate:443
target:
http
192.168.xx.xx
gate:8123
Firewall no issuses (also try with disable)
can you explain how to access the server via https over the internet? im getting ssl error but when i access to my nas everything is ok
My suggestion would be to use a reverse proxy. That's the "best" way, in my opinion. ruclips.net/video/iWvCN2j7xjo/видео.html
once i install this, how would i migrate settings from the docker version i had.
I haven't ever tried that. You might be able to back up your configuration and migrate it.
Good Morning Frank! I did follow the steps given in your video and installed on my Synology 920+. Installation process never had any errors but "Preparing Home Assistant" screen is shown since more than 1 day. But as per instructions it must disappear within 20min and HA should start running normally. Can u please help.
I haven't ever seen it go that long and on a 920+, it should definitely be a lot faster. Have you stopped the VM and tried to restart it?
@@WunderTechTutorials yes, I did. I checked the log and found that, HA is getting hung infinitely at a step where it need to download additional files. Not sure if couple of network setting on 920+ need to changed to facilitate download.
My 920+ has 12GB ram and working perfectly alright with regards to NAS' features are concerned.
Please suggest a solution
@@roopsvinay The only thing I would try is disabling Synology's Firewall if you're using it. Unfortunately, I'm not sure why it would get stuck on that step for any other reason.
@@WunderTechTutorials I really appreciate your quick response. You might get multiple comments on your videos, but you made sure that you replied my messages, thanks for it. May God Bless You. By the way, I was facing same issue on DSM version of HA as well as on VM installed on my Windows 11 Laptop. After reading complete log, I understood that issue was with the internet connectivity, I changed my router, its working fine now.
@@roopsvinay That's great! Glad to hear you got it working!
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... thanks.... this was helpful and I got it installed.... but the problem is I have the Synology RT6600ax router running SRM with vlans... I have one vlan (ioT) setup for my Smart Home devices and homekit devices and I have my Synology DS923+ NAS on my main work network (company main). My separate IoT vlan is not open to the main work network so it was not selectable in the network for VMM .... so when I launched Home Assistant it found all my office equipment (printer, scanner, etc) and none of the Smart Home devices on the separate vlan. So now trying to figure out how to configure SRM vlan to open it up to just VMM and then select it on the Home Assistant VM so it will be on the correct network and find my devices. Any ideas?
It'll most likely has to be done with firewall rules, though I am not that familiar with SRM. I believe you can configure the VM with a VLAN tag which is what you'll have to use to get it on that VLAN, but in terms of the firewall, you'll have to allow traffic (unless the port is listening on all VLANs and you can just set the tag).
Can you connect your locks to you home? Can you reprogram the codes on your home locks?
It depends on the device. You'll have to look up the compatibility with HA.
Thanks ! Now how can I find the configuration.yaml file in order to set my reverse proxy url
The configuration.yaml file is inside of Home Assistant, so you'll have to access it there.
I can not cope with the access to edit the configuration.yaml file, I have an inverted Proxy in synology so that I can connect to the home Assisstant from the outside but I get error 400: Bad Request. I would like to add an entry:
http:
use_x_forwarded_for: true
trusted_proxies:
- x.x.x.x
* x IP address
If I previously installed the Docker version and the installed the Supervised Virtual Machine version, can I just delete the Docker folders and uninstall Docker? Quite the run-on sentence😵💫
Yes, if you no longer want it there or don't want to use Docker, you can remove it.
Oh wow, that is much easier than the janky method of running the supervised version in docker!
Well, they do consider it something for a person with a lot of experience with Docker, rather than something the average person should be doing.
This seems like it would work well, but I'm getting a "Running (No Network Connection is available) error in the status column when I start the Home Assistant VM.. is this normal?
No, I don't think I get that. Is your Virtual Machine Manager set up properly?
@@WunderTechTutorials My bad.. I had forgotten I had changed the lan port on the back o the NAS and hadnt told the Default VM Network. Sorted now. Thanks for posting this.. learning about Synology and Home Assistant at the same time.. alot to take in.
How much memory do we need to run the supervised version?
It should run decent with 2GB.
Hi. Followed your guide, it works: both on PC and on iOS app BUT only when im on local lan. How do you get access when outside home? I got VPN (with VPN port open/it works great), also, I gave access to virtual machine manager for the user I have created for the VPN + my normal user for Synology. But still not working outside LAN. Any ideas? Thank you for fantastic videos, always to the point.
I'm a little confused on when it doesn't work with the VPN. Does it not work at all with the VPN or does it work in certain situations?
@@WunderTechTutorials hi, thank you for replying. My Synology hosted VPN works great (i can reach DSM, photo app, drive app etc when outside my lan, but, for some reason when attempting [nas-ip]:8123 (for HA), im unable to connect to HA. Any clues..? (I assume this is not a port forward/firewall issue since im able to connect when on my wifi/lan in the house.. )Thanks
@@droneforfun5384 Yeah, most likely a VPN issue then. Have you tried 127.0.0.1:8123?
@@WunderTechTutorials yes no success
@@droneforfun5384 It's certainly something with the VPN/VMM, I'm just not sure why. Outside of firewall rules blocking traffic, I can't think of any reason why you wouldn't be able to access it.
I'm getting the error "failed to parse the specifications of the virtual machine" when trying to import the ova file. Does anybody have any idea how to fix that issue?
I'm afraid I don't. Have you tried to start fresh with a newly downloaded file?
I feel bad i did not choose Btrfs file system when setting up my nas. Now I'm stuck with ext4 and can't do virtual machines xD
Can always buy an external hard drive (or a few) and switch!
@@WunderTechTutorials Oh really, it works with a external hard drive? Gotta try that out, thanks. Now I'm testing out the docker version and it Seems like it's good enough if you combine it with other docker containers and use the DSM File system for editing files.
@@ChanceGPM Sorry, I meant that you can buy an external hard drive, transfer the data off, switch to btrfs and then add it back.
Very interesting but I'm going to have to put aside ego and ask a very basic question. In step 14 you state, "Navigate to the first IP address in the list and port 8123 to access Home Assistant! ". I've tried to figure out how I navigate to the virtual IP. So my simple question is how?
I figured it out, finally.
@@ranord50 Sorry for the delay, but glad you got it working!
@Roger Nordstrom how does it work, i have the same problem?
Hi Frank - I have created this, but it has knocked my Pihole macvlan off, and despite uninstalling the VM & VM manager, I can't get it back. I get a 'Failed to create the macvlan port: device or resource busy' error. Any ideas?
I am hoping this helps: www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/cng2s2/issue_with_synology_vswitch_and_docker_macvlan/
@@WunderTechTutorials You're amazing Frank - that solved it instantly - thank you so much!!! I wonder how I should create the VM to ensure this doesn't happen again? Are there any special network steps I should take, at that step, perhaps? Or can I just disable it again once the VM has been created?
@@Th3Dean Glad it helped! I thought it was a global setting, but assuming that it happens again, I believe disabling it should work.
@@WunderTechTutorials Unfortunately I cannot disable vswitch once VMM is installed :(
I will try and install it again whilst the docker container is disabled, to see if that makes a difference
@@WunderTechTutorials Unfortunately I can confirm it didn't make a difference. What a shame. Any more ideas please Frank?
how would i access the file system of this virtual machine? i would like to change the config.yaml file, thanks in advance!
You will have to access the console in VMM.
@@WunderTechTutorials thanks for the info
I did everything like in the movie but home assistant does not get the ip address :(
Is the VM starting properly?
@@WunderTechTutorials That's how it all starts up, it just doesn't get an IP address
@@mateuszstoj2892 If it never gets an IP address, it has to be something with how the network is configured on the host (NAS).
Do you think the 718+ is a good device for it?
I got some dockers running (adguard, unbound, vaultwarden, watchtower, acme.ch)
And using plex (with hardware acceleration).
I don't want my nas to run slow. My nas has NO problem running those tasks!
I've upgraded the SynologyDS to 16gb RAM. And want to give the HomeAssistant VM 6Gb!
Do you think it will run well? I'm not planning heavy stuff like surveillance. Just some automations for sensors, lights, Shelly's, TVs, Doors, switchbots, plugs, ect.