They are far older than what we are being told, many of them 12k+ years old--later re-purposed by subsequent peoples. Hancock has mentioned this several times and is confirmed in Indian tradition and legends. There has even been recent scientific evidence to confirm this as well that has been dated to that time period. A great book I recommend is: The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America: The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian Cover-Up by Dewhurst. And of course all of Graham Hancock's works with the caveat that you don't believe everything he states, especially the spiritually and physically dangerous Ayahuasca usage he recommends.
@Oftin Wong Are you kidding me, your comment doesn't make any sense, and doesn't even apply to what I stated. There is way more evidence than that, that is merely one of the latest articles, one of thousands of pieces of evidence that corroborate with its findings--thousands upon thousands. You must be trying to cover it up like academia or you are far too ignorant to be making a comment about it. Peer review is a system that was created to eliminate truth--these people are brainwashed by the universities and become zombified parrots regurgitating only what they have been taught, which is mostly lies. If you don't know that by now you have a lot of learning to do about what is going on. There is an ongoing documented cover-up 100% proven that has been going on for over a hundred years by the Smithsonian and academian gatekeepers--the peer-reviewers you so adore. Again, I recommend that you read Dewhurst's book The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America--he will clue you in to reality and wake you up from your stupor that your are currently in. All of Graham Hancock's works are mandatory as well for your education and he will tell you the same thing I'm telling you now.
Well thank you because the only pyramid is in Memphis so I kind of felt like we should have some also. Knowing this is exciting and hope to hear about lost treasures.
@krissiebelhamri1459 Applause! Well Said! I grew up in Ilinois, anything I learned about the First Americans my European Ancestor robbed from I.had to search diligently for outside mainstream education
you missed something. I learned about Cahokia in fifth grade. I remember because the pictures of the place excited me and I went and found a book on it. lol.
Because they were all enslaved or killed by the Ger-man. This is our shit they stole and good from us. The people of this land we're documented as having copper colored skin or black. Many different hair textures as well. Question is why hide it? Answer is they'd have to pay more than just reparations. They'd have to leave.
Yeah it’s for certain that this is our culture and we were here before Columbus copper is a brownish red and the so called “african American” is a brown with a red undertone and during the early 1900’s we had the copper romances with us on the cover
5:51 "The population worked to support the elite class. Commoners would spend their lives in the fields or in the burrow pits while the fruits of their labor were enjoyed by the hierarchy." A tale as old as time.
It seizes to amaze me how stupid people are to believe b.s. and it's so obvious north America had natives that had no written language, no mathematics, no astronomy but get to Mexico to South America and their is pyramids, structures, mathematics, astronomy, agriculture, gold, copper, silver etc...a huge difference between these Europeans from the north with lies and the Spanish in Mexico and South America that didn't lie
If you go there all you’ll hear is “maybe....” “we think....” “there might have been....” “It’s possible....” It’s a cool place but, it is a big mystery today.
Cahokia was not just the settlement around the mound. It spread out all over the so-called American Bottoms as well as across the river in St. Louis. The whole of downtown St. Louis was covered in large mounds. All removed now except for one, which is back in the hands of the local NDN tribes. I grew up five miles south of the Mound and there is a huge buried village that was part of "Cahokia" under my old neighborhood there, still unmarked and never excavated archaeologically.
I live in Oregon, the Willamette Valley has mounds as well. At one point in time prior to the farmers plowing the down, digging them up. I have heard there were about 300 mounds along the Calapoia River, and some along the Long Tom River. All of this was considered Kalapuya territory. Their is a old story from the settler days of the last one being made. Also it was said that before the trees took over. One of the mounds could be seen when looking at spirit Mt. On the Grand Ronde Resevation. Have no idea if there is a connection. Just tossing the info out there for people to ponder. Cahokia is a place I do want to visit, along with Spirit Mound.
@@captainfanta8641WOW That's Kool. I lived in Shady Cove for a year. I would love to have known about those mounds.❤ Now I have to go back. LoL Great info
who removed them the tribe or govt? I have heard that there could have been giants or the likes buried in them, wondering who decided to take the risk as i also have heard to dig them up is seriously a "dangerous" feat with potential spirits inside etc.. any more info or pointing me toward where I can find info is appreciated, this is fascinating, especially because we were never taught anything about this seemingly magical place!
@johnlombardo7816 mounds of Wisconsin had giant bones that were seen by tons of people and in newspapers. Then they went to the Smithsonian 😂😂😂😂They Gone!!!!
Just wait till various native tribes decide they are going to forcibly prevent peoples from visiting these areas , like they do at the serpent mound. Even though its a public site with the ohio historical society.
Serpent mound is a "public" site? It BELONGS to the native American tribe that built it. Along with the ENTIRETY of this COUNTRY. This land was stolen. Period!
"Somehow the Mississippian culture had developed the knowledge of how to raise this prolific crop in large fields". "Somehow"? As if this is surprising? A complex culture, a city of 20,000, and he's surprised that they figured out how to cultivate corn?
Well, corn is supposed to originate thousands of years ago from a single agricultural center: Mexico. If the Mississippi culture independently figured out how to cultivate it, then it certainly is a great achievement, maybe that's what he means.
Have you visited Iceland, Scandinavia? Complex societies can exist and thrive when the People receive more of the benefits of their labor. After WW 2, in the 1950's and 1960's, that is just what happened in the USA. Unfortunately, those who run the circus have decided that the lower classes don't really need as much as the rich classes do.
That part is likely false, mainstream will tell you it was for "elites" because they want to program your mind to believe in a hierarchy and to worship the "elite". They recently discovered the Egyptian pyramids weren't tombs for pharaohs, but giant energy generating structures. I'm sure the purpose for these large mounds had nothing to do with class structures.
There are many places like this across the Americas. Like I've always said, while in school we learn His-Story, after school, we spend a lifetime learning the truth that was buried or destroyed.
True facts they don't understand that they are studying his story not the truth it's so much lies learned that it has become the truth and the truth becomes the lies
The weak cannot comprehend with this s***the Lost cannot comprehend with this s***because a lie is the truth to them because they lie makes the weak and the Lost feel secure which doesn't prepare them for anything like the truth receive lies and be unprepared or receive truth and be prepared
They ain't built for this s*** I've been telling people to look up the New York area map at night on their phones my Knockswasn't answered if you decide to look it up flipped the map upside down and you will find out why everything we do is a setup
@@prestonransome5362 I was too young for that era lol. I was a young child. Most women will stay home and have children. But there is one condition, she has to feel safe and that she can depend on the man she is with. At least most decent empathetic women feel that way. I would have just started a business from home lol Love your comment. It made me laugh. Ignorant huh hahaha
Jack Weatherford has 2 very good books about pre-Columbian American history. One is called "Indian Givers" and the other "Native Roots". Native people find the first title demeaning, but it isn't meant as the phrase Indian Givers is usually meant. It means that Indians did indeed give us much of what we have today. I highly recommend these books for any serious student of Native peoples and history.
We can only hope that Trump and the GOP don't hand it over to miners, developers, ranchers and other right wing anti-American scoundrel republican, like Trump and the GOP!
Glad that I found this doc.- just the other day, I was telling a friend how unusual it is that every place on earth, except for the North American continent, boasted advanced ancient civilizations. Africa, Europe, the Middle East, China, etc., all had past histories of wealth, technology, and culture, which North America seemed to have missed out on. My history education told me that ancient empires in the Western hemisphere stopped at the Mexican border. Now I know better. Thanks.
That's funny because all of the other history they teach. When there is a powerful people exploring and expanding. They don't just stop unless they die, but then the next one continues expansion. Was there a freaking ice wall blocking everyone or something 🤣
@@chrispile3878 How do they know if they did it that way, sounds like they’re making an assumption to me. How do they know that the structure wasn’t already there?
@odeerg How do you know it’s fact? Because this guy says so, therefore it’s true? I have no idea where this guy is getting his information from. Maybe they had knowledge of different techniques that we’re unaware of or maybe someone else built it before.
I did not know Illinois was so interesting. When you say prehistoric times that is a good clue it goes back much older than stated at least 25 or 50 thousand years earlier. Who ever built it had to be a great civilization to create so much...
They were black. When people say we came from Africa, explain how Africans built the plantation with marketing they’ve never seen. The ships weren’t that big, and it didn’t take days or weeks to reach the US. It took months and Africans would’ve died out by then
They had. The Poton , Chontal, Yokotan Mayans. Miami derives from Mayaimi. Thus why they tried to eradicate this part of history so there would be no trail proving this. I knew this from elders.
Seems like a group of Mesoamericans moved north rather than native americans living differently since the mesoamericans were settled people while native americans were nomadic and this wasn;t widespread in the north.
700gsteak The Mayans moved Northward into the Mississippian Southeast. The remaining Mississippian peoples and the Iroquoian Ani’yunwi’ya mingled with the Mayan migrants producing the Mikasuki, I.e. Muskogee people. One thing is for certain. The Mayans must’ve been related to the numerous mound building cultures because of the way they built their structures, e.g. Meso-American pyramids and Hopewell Mounds.
“No evidence they had any connection that far south” ... As it pans to a structure vastly resembling mayan/amazonian/olmec pyramids. 😞 Its like its innate for these pseudo academics to pontificate pseudonyms and false hoods 😂
@@ryonlabaw1498 I find it hard to believe they didn't have connections with Mesoamerica. While they didn't have horses for transportation these people were basically taught to run everywhere from the time they could walk. They developed tremendous endurance and could run for miles on end. So they likely did maintain networks of communication to exchange ideas and goods. Corn did come from Mexico like you said.
A person can discover something that has already been discovered. It is semantics. To that person, it's a new thing. Therefore, the Vikings found the new world for the first time for themselves, even though there were already people living in the new world. That doesn't change the fact that the Vikings discovered something. So let's stop complaining about semantics.
Thank you for this video. I lived just 8 miles from Cahokia Mounds from 1951-1982. This area gave me a deep-set love for discovery, archeology, and art. My heart would flutter when I set my feet on this land. (I became a high school art teacher for 9 years.)I’m now thrilled that so much more information about this mysterious place has been revealed. Part of my art making today is rooted in my experience from wandering these mounds. Keep exploring ! ❤️😘
To bad they desecrated the thousands of mounds and dug up all the giants. Way to go Smithsonian anything to try to keep people believing in the evolution fairy tail.
Monks Mound allows one to see 10 miles and you can see the city and arch well from where the king sat and lived. I guess since he was the big boss, he also gave orders on everything and controlled everything like war narratives and housing for regular too. Like us in the modern era, they too came up short despite all that open space and resources here in America. greed and psychopathy destroys each and every time a civilization matures.
3:47 You just said a minute ago that there is "no evidence" that they had any contact with mesoamerican cultures. Now you're wondering how and where they managed to domesticate and cultivate corn.?. And they had seashells from the Gulf of Mexico!.. 🤔🤦🏻♂️
They traded with the US Southwest/Four corners regions (aka the Pueblo peoples) as an intermediary. They didn't know about each other but they both knew of the Puebloans.
Too many assumptions. They didn't need to trade directly with the mesoamericans for them to have obtained corn, there were many other tribes, cultures in between the two that would have been like dots connecting the trade. It's much more likely that they obtained the corn via the many other tribes that lived south of that area and eventually extending in to Texas. As for the seashells from the Gulf of Mexico, you do realise the Gulf of Mexico extends well in to the United States right???? Have you ever even looked at a map??? Florida, Louisiana, Alabamba, Mississippi, Texas, all are on the GULF OF MEXICO lol. Corn obtained from other tribes that lived to the south, seashells obtained from trading tribes of Florida/Louisiana Gulf of Mexico shores.... get it now?
I am enrolled eastern shoshone of the wind river reservation in Wyoming and..... European people who are digging up our Mississippi river valley and hiding the plunder of their misgivings...where are the giants that we still have tribal stories...
The giants with red hair that were there before the amerindians arrived, you mean? Who built all of the mounds and elaborate stone structures? Yes - the Shawnee and Ojibwa elders tell fascinating origin stories saying precisely that.
Nothing is gained by playing the one-note ukulele of victimhood, Sir. The dishonesty, stupidity and malevolence of our country today are a terrible tragedy for us all.
That's hilarious! He states there is no noted ties between the Mississippian Peoples and Mexico....yet they grew Corn. Where does he think Corn came from? My folks who were way up the Missouri River have stories of travels south to the Missippi River and furher south to trade with the People of the Land of the Twisted Pot Houses, sounds like Mexico to me...
Why do you become so easily outraged? He mentions the shells from the Gulf of Mexico. The dude presents plenty of facts, and speaks reasonably on established fact. Don't take things so personally.
@@Redmenace96 Why do you accuse them of being "outraged", of taking things "personally"? I do not see that in their comment. It comes across as simply an honestly-felt viewpoint.
Not going to fall for this crap, a primitive race with few in population surrounded by advanced architecture and vast great stone structures.. there were MILLIONS!
Goodness, I hope the State of Illinois puts money in the budget to update this series. It was a great series with a good mission but really needs to be redone to incorporate new information or revisions.
There used to be a camp ground at Cahokia mounds just south of the old highway that intersected the mound site. Not that it was hurting anything but the enlightened powers saw to it that the camp ground was closed and removed. We as young kids got to explore all around the site and visit the original visitors centers many times. Being on site and learning first hand beats any classroom or internet site.
The “Woodhenge” is fascinating, the “12” is for the constellations at night, and the bigger circles could mean they are from a time much older than we give credit to...
I have known of Cahokia Illinois for a long time. I don't think that I have ever been there. It is only 120 miles from my hometown in Marion. It would be nice to head back up there and to visit Cahokia some day.
They had contact with all the other mound/ pyramid builders around the world that had the knowledge of the stars and progressions and built these aligned with the stars, sun, moon,etc. There are loads of history archeologist are not telling us.
Dude they clearly had boats back then. A little Chinese girl just sailed around the world by herself. Open your eyes it's not unbelievable to think this possible. And now you mention it, asian ppl's, eskimo ppl's, and also native american ppl's all have distinguishing looking traits.......... seems as if they did make a little "contact" back than 😉.
I too grew up in Illinois and had no knowledge of Cahokia until I served in the IL Air National Guard at Scott Air force base 2001 to 2007. I visited Cahokia once in 03. I will visit again soon.
I live nearby and can say it’s an incredible place to visit. The museum is world-class. I highly encourage all visitors to see the short audio visual presentation in the theater first. It’s extremely well done and there’s a really neat kind of surprise ending. Resist the urge to wander into the exhibit area while waiting for the next show. It makes the experience so much better and memorable if you do. Perhaps visit the gift shop first. I promise you’ll be glad you waited. It’s really cool.
A holy place where a manipulative elite class used their knowledge of seasonal cycles to control and enslave their own people? Yeah, that sounds holy as fuck.
@Johnny Doeboy Chill out, man. Those are educated guesses based on certain clues in the ground. The idea that the elites occupied the higher parts is reasonable. As is the idea of restricted access. Try strolling up to Barbara Streisand's mansion today.
Still. What about when a big sickness or bad growing season give you piles of building materials to work with? Find out! Let's get piles and piles of dead bodies. Bet you we'll have oodles of state owned dead bodies all thrown out in a big pile to play blocks with.
...Illinois....sounds like a culture built around copper mining... ...and that corn came from Mexico... ...slapped paw on forehead when the dude said Illinois was too far from Mexico for contact... ...guess he didn't think about that big old Mississippi River as the contact highway... ...only got 3:38 minutes in and found fault with too many things to continue...
You know I studied Archaeology and after about 6 years, I felt the same way about the discipline as a whole. You could say I have buyers remorse for my degree field. They left no written records, but left sweatlodges and burial mounds buried basket by basket. 300 sacrificed girls, do their bones show tool marks? Or is it possible they fell to a virus or bacteria? If sacrificed there must be some evidence such as cuts in vertebrae or hyoid bone.etc. How do they know the leader was the brother to the sun or the Sun God incarnate? Maybe those were signal mounds and the guy on the top was a really just a lowly messenger who knew smoke signals...,maybe they made the mounds to secure their food resources from flooding. They are in a serious flood zone of that time. And so on.
Yeah if they left no written records- where is the narrator getting the info to support the statements he makes? It seems like alot of speculation and assumption going on. I mean, how can he say it took “hundreds of years to create these mounds, spanning many generations that lugged a bucket of dirt at a time”. And then say that the entire place was abandoned and they have no idea why. Huh?
The Woodhinge was set at 48 weeks - 48 poles. To account for the remaining 4 weeks of the year (52 weeks), the 5 circles with 12 months each (12 poles) accounts for the axial shift of the earth from the sun. The 5th circle adjusting for each 4 year leap year.
ERROR! ERROR! Thee LARGEST settled area in, "North America" was the Tenochtitclan Tacuba Greater metro area of the high lakes in the millions. You meant in what would be the future US.
I ve been in plenty hidden woods and ancient parks in the state of ga and I must say the feeling of ageless rest is heavily apon those areas...it is a very pleasant experience....
He tells us there was no cultural contact with the civilization to the south, in Mexico. Then he shows us the life-sustaining core of their agriculture: maize, the main crop whose cultivation spread from an original center in Mexico. That, my friends, is cultural contact. Meanwhile, the narrator is at a loss to explain the Cahokian's adoption of maize cultivation. He tells us it happened "somehow". This is not exactly a rigorous account.
@Klaa2 The cultivation of maize is in itself primary evidence of cultural contact. Its spread has been traced from Mesoamerica to the Mississippi valley. Do you think this happened without human agency? I regard as unscientific the thesis that Mississippian maize cultivation developed independently of the Mesoamerican instigators of that practice. Contact between these regions was easily achieved through water passage, in contrast to the proven but more difficult Mesoamerican cultural migration northward to the southwestern U.S. over desert terrain. How else do you account for the appearance of maize in the Mississippi Valley?
This is the history of the continent *before* it was named America. The USA was only formed in 1776. I've been to pubs in the UK much much older than that.
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although Cahokia was the largest city in th year 1200, with a population of 20,000, a few centuries earlier in what is now Mexico ( in North America) was Teotihuacan a city of 125,00- 200,000 people.. a much more impressive total.
People in these comments “about time the exposed this” meanwhile the video itself is 5 years old And this place has been a UNESCO world heritage sight since 1982. Before half you were born. Because you don’t know something doesn’t mean anything basically everyone just 10 years older than you likely went here and studied all of this as required by SCHOOL before education was hijacked by people as informed as those making such ignorant comments! I grew up in Illinois. This was fields trips for history. When schools had money. Because they didn’t blow it on brainless athletes proms and useless frivolous nonsense
CORN is MEXICAN! Corn/Maize/Elote was domesticated from a wild grass called Teosinte in southern Mexico and the 3 sisters agricultural method originated in Mexico as well...Used by Many tribes in what is now THE USA and Canada arrived around the Mississippian era probably brought by Toltec/Huastec Mayas of Veracruz and Hidalgo Mexico The Aztec Mexica claim to be from the land in the North which i have concluded to be descended originally from a Subtribe of the Ojibwe/Anishnaabek called Michilimackinac of the Turtle subclans of the Fish clan and through the Illinois tribe called the Michigamea and Zuni Tribe of New Mexico and Tarascans/Purepecha of Michoacan, Mexico.
None of the modern mexicans or pale Hispanics look like those mayna murals in Mexico. Those look like niggas and they have dreadlocks which is mind blowing
Yeah & the Olmec look like Polynesians but I don't call them "island niggas" Where does the disrespect come from? Respect all tribal peoples man, Mayan African etc.etc.
@@casegordon5055 Who's hiding that and why? That said, Native Americans are very motivated to have all old skeletal remains classified as religious artifacts so they can't be studied. This is to cover up the fact that some skeletons are European and that, thus "Native American" includes European as well as Siberian people. The federal statute they lobbied for is something like "The Native American Antiquities Act."
Preston Ransome oh you sweet summer child... don’t you realize how shallow the claim to a new world is when it’s actually a very old world with existing history and societies... but uh yeah trust the same establishment that lies about W.M.Ds
I'm currently reading a historical fiction novel called People of the River by Michael and Kathleen Gear. So encountering this video helps give "realism" to the novel--plus I have been to Cahokia several times. The novel is amazing because it expands on all the things mentioned in this video PLUS gives possible (maybe even likely) reasons why the area was eventually abandoned. One speculation used in the novel is that the climate was changing and becoming more arid. As a result food was becoming scarce, which resulted in a kind of "food riot" between neighboring sites. Also, a lot about the "religious" beliefs of the people is included, making for a fascinating read. Check it out. (By the way, I do not know nor am I related to the authors, so this is NOT intended to be a plug for the book.)
'without a written language its hard to know what happend' well, why not ask the first nation ppl who are still around and let them do the talking? they are carrying treasures white man dont have.
What first nation people? Hope you're not speaking of the European version Native American casino owners whose ancestors didn't arrive here until the Dawes Roll Act. The Government physically and papered genocide the indigenous Americans Indians beginning in 1492 through slavery, over 350 years of war, their racist census taking and deliberate destroying of family records and identification. We probably could have told you all you wanted to know.
Ron Lanter I’ve read both. They both testify of Jesus Christ. The Book of Mormon also has awesome American history. The Bible does not so I’m not sure how that will help someone seeking archeological information about the Hopewell Indians.
Why can't you tell the truth they had a written language it was aAncient Hebrew. They (Joshua) the Hebrews were constantly at war with the Canaanites! Call on the lost name of God Hawah! Shalawam
I imagine much of what they say about this place is what we know do know about the Natchez Indians who were chased from their homes by the early Spanish settlers. The Natchez did not write how and why they did what they did but the Spanish recorded what they learned first hand. The Natchez had a ruler they called the Sun. What do you think the people of Cahokia did.
If you live in an agrarian society, you know the seasons because, because if you don't you starve. so hench sun worshipers!!! If you ascribe to christianity you could worship the messiaH GOD'S Son. or you could be narcissistic and see deity in the mirror. people are prone to worship something or someone. Why were Pharaohs deified or why did they deify Themselves. Maybe it helped control the masses. why are there so many different different religions with so many different sects and cults. The university are full of anthropologist, translating ancient societies that left writing, but who knows if the translations are correct. We humans are prone to bias, susceptible to the Dunning Kruger, so might not believe evidence, if we see it, so I think my point is, We dig in the dirt and speculate, and I am skeptical of< ( the more I learn the less I know) all the men that came before me More intelligent, men who may have been blinded by their own preconceived Ideas.
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I'm sorry, I'm taking this video with a grain of salt. I know there were Cities in the U.S. before Vikings showed up in North America and I know President Abraham Lincoln mentioned Giants buried in mounds. I'm not buying that the Native American were the ones who built the Cities. My thoughts are that under many of these mounds we might find Actual collapsed building brought down by the Flood. Anyone after that time would have been living on the ruins of the previous cities. Much like the Romans did. Everyone living after the Great Flood were survivors of a Disaster and were living a post apocalyptic existence in the ruins of previous cultures. There are Native Americans who will outright say, we didn't build these structures and mounds. They were from a different people. Too many times archaeologists dig up some ruins and misinterpret what they are seeing. It's always the same story. Oh we found this structure and it must have been where they worshiped and sacrificed humans to the sun god. Who knows if they aren't rebuilding the alleged ruins to suit an official "scientific" narrative. I for sure don't trust the work of any University Archaeology team.
politicalsheepdog so who do you think built them dam sure wasn’t the Vikings. This is signs of ancient Egypt if you ask me very similar to the pyramids
@@killagod4442 Maybe Ancient Egypt. In any case, The Pyramids of Egypt, Large Structures in India, Large Structures off the coast of Japan, the "Temples" of Central and South America, were all build before the Great Flood some 6,000 years ago.
@Michael RedCrow Are you suggesting the origin stories of the Shawnee, Ojibwa and others are all BS? That their elders have all got it wrong? That the structures were NOT already in place when the amerindians arrived from elsewhere? That the legends of large men with red hair were just nonsense, after all? Wow. Those are indeed some grand claims! I guess with a name like 'redcrow' you must be the real deal, hmm? lol
@Michael RedCrow For more context, research 'Windover Bog Mummies - Florida'. Those people are 8000yrs old, non-indigenous and found with rope and woven textiles - two things amerindians did not have until fairly recently, archaeologically speaking. Their DNA is European. This is not a 'theory' - it's hard science, unlike the nonsense being put forth in this video as well as the comment section. Additionally, Phoenician artifacts and writing have been found in the north eastern U.S, along with elaborate and highly mathematical stone structures - including subterranean buildings - that are most definitely not amerindian in origin. The ancient Great Lakes Copper mining - to the order of a half BILLION pounds - is yet another obvious contradiction to current PC narratives (ancientamerica.com/missing-prehistoric-michigans-half-billion-pounds-of-copper/). Going even further back, there's the Solutrean Hypothesis which claims people came across from the area which is now southern France during the end of the last ice age some 22 000-17 000yrs ago; their bifacial stonework on spear points and arrowheads being the physical evidence (There is NO evidence of such a technique in Siberian or Asian antiquity ruling that possibility out for how the Clovis people had that technology). At that time the oceans were 400ft lower and massive glacial sheets extended hundreds of miles off the coasts on both sides of the Atlantic. What is abundantly clear is the peopling of North America occurred a very long time ago in waves - and from various other regions - not just Siberia as mainstream taste-makers claim.
Most of Native American History was passed down through stories preserved by retelling through the decades and centuries. This was also true in the various tribes of the South American tribes and Central American and Mexican tribes.
Why that short backdrop image of the wall & not it entire view? Lets be honest, some Mounds have INSIDES = ROOMS! NOT ALL ARE BURIAL SITES! If there documentation of "Theives Taking Artifacts" where are the entrances & tourist sites for them? Treaties pushed us out & your census recorders renamed us! #StayWoke
I grew up in St. Clair county and never understood why Collinsville, IL ( where the mounds are actually located)wasn't named Cahokia? Cahokia, IL is a few miles southeast near the Mississippi river closer to downtown St Louis.
It's just discussing how they did not teach us the real American history. I never knew about any of this untill recently. And it is so fascinating. Our school systems should be held accountable. It's sad really sad.
The real "Rio Grande" is the Mississippi River. Those mounds were the way the Aztecs traveled up and down the entire continent by controlling river flows. The Mississippi river was dried for the Spaniard that said that he was also the son of the sun. When he was asked to dry the river the Spaniard died when he couldn't. Aztecs had those flight gliding suits long before anyone thought of how to make them. Believe what you want, this story from my great grandfather.
This all just guess work based on what they would have done with the property if they lived there. Who knows? Maybe the highest mound was a learning center or children's center :p
I live in moundsville w.v home of the largest conicle mound.they say this was a large Indian settlement upto 5000 people.ide like to know where all these graves are.only ones found in this area have been in the mounds .I don't think they know as much as they think.
Aztecs started from the North of America and moved tours the central Mexico. There was pyramids found in the under waters of Wisconsin lake and other pyramids found in New Mexico as well.
Wait so a plant that came from the south was what they based their economy around but they didn't reach far enough south to mimic architecture?? Idkmang
Thanks and congrats for this very interesting video. I've been in Mexico and Guatemala many times and saw their huge pre-columbian monuments but never had heard about such big civilization in what is today the USA.
3:25 "it was a place where religious rites were thought to have occurred, but no one is really sure because this was a pre-historic society." 1:30 "mounds used for the homes of the elite" So, how can you KNOW?
I've been there a few times, first time in the mid-80s with 3 years ago being the most recent, and each time it looked just like in this video with about 5 other people visiting this site and nobody else.
Amazing to me 4:20 a depiction of Europeans in the painting, aborigines were copper colored. Where did you get this story from if the Europeans wiped out our his-story?
If you ever visit the Milwaukee Public museum, the depiction of the aboriginals is much more accurate. A darker-skinned people looking exactly how they would have looked. You can see some pictures if you looks up "milwaukee public museum native american exhibit" on google images.
Being a mixture of South American indigenous and Asian, they would've had varying skin tones; some darker, some lighter - just as they do today. Why you're hung up on melanin content is interesting, though.
I grew up in Illinois. 1972-1996. I didn’t find out about these mounds until two minutes ago on the RUclips’s.
(Jan 2020)
Did you know the rest of the world has no education on indigenous native Americans. I wonder why they aren't taught about us in school ?
They are far older than what we are being told, many of them 12k+ years old--later re-purposed by subsequent peoples. Hancock has mentioned this several times and is confirmed in Indian tradition and legends. There has even been recent scientific evidence to confirm this as well that has been dated to that time period. A great book I recommend is: The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America: The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian Cover-Up by Dewhurst. And of course all of Graham Hancock's works with the caveat that you don't believe everything he states, especially the spiritually and physically dangerous Ayahuasca usage he recommends.
@Oftin Wong Are you kidding me, your comment doesn't make any sense, and doesn't even apply to what I stated. There is way more evidence than that, that is merely one of the latest articles, one of thousands of pieces of evidence that corroborate with its findings--thousands upon thousands. You must be trying to cover it up like academia or you are far too ignorant to be making a comment about it. Peer review is a system that was created to eliminate truth--these people are brainwashed by the universities and become zombified parrots regurgitating only what they have been taught, which is mostly lies. If you don't know that by now you have a lot of learning to do about what is going on. There is an ongoing documented cover-up 100% proven that has been going on for over a hundred years by the Smithsonian and academian gatekeepers--the peer-reviewers you so adore. Again, I recommend that you read Dewhurst's book The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America--he will clue you in to reality and wake you up from your stupor that your are currently in. All of Graham Hancock's works are mandatory as well for your education and he will tell you the same thing I'm telling you now.
I've been wondering how every where else got pyramids. I see why cause they call the mound's
Well thank you because the only pyramid is in Memphis so I kind of felt like we should have some also. Knowing this is exciting and hope to hear about lost treasures.
It's crazy not a word of this is taught in our public history classes. Wow!
I'm teaching this right now.
-a public school history teacher
It’s wrong, just like many actual lies we were taught.
@@brandonalessini3713. Good for you!!!
@krissiebelhamri1459 Applause! Well Said! I grew up in Ilinois, anything I learned about the First Americans my European Ancestor robbed from I.had to search diligently for outside mainstream education
you missed something. I learned about Cahokia in fifth grade. I remember because the pictures of the place excited me and I went and found a book on it. lol.
Its crazy that as many times as Ive been here as a child, I didnt quite understand the magnitude of it. I dont think anyone who lives here does.
Because they were all enslaved or killed by the Ger-man. This is our shit they stole and good from us. The people of this land we're documented as having copper colored skin or black. Many different hair textures as well. Question is why hide it? Answer is they'd have to pay more than just reparations. They'd have to leave.
cool
Probably dont most think Indians from couple hundred years ago
Yeah it’s for certain that this is our culture and we were here before Columbus copper is a brownish red and the so called “african American” is a brown with a red undertone and during the early 1900’s we had the copper romances with us on the cover
@Mike Jones These were invaders, The giants were first!
5:51 "The population worked to support the elite class. Commoners would spend their lives in the fields or in the burrow pits while the fruits of their labor were enjoyed by the hierarchy." A tale as old as time.
It seizes to amaze me how stupid people are to believe b.s. and it's so obvious north America had natives that had no written language, no mathematics, no astronomy but get to Mexico to South America and their is pyramids, structures, mathematics, astronomy, agriculture, gold, copper, silver etc...a huge difference between these Europeans from the north with lies and the Spanish in Mexico and South America that didn't lie
Absolutely NO different from classes today...
@@berthaday3473 Yup. Coming soon to a nation near your hunger games here we come.
"Newly refurbished stairs"
Translation --that's where we found the chiefs tomb with the huge gold treasure and didn't tell anyone.
Lmao
It was wooden when I visited. Now it's concrete.
@@chrispile3878 interesting
What happened to the city of gold the Ancient Covenant people built For God.
@@debbiecooper3661 The Mormons stole it
My friend and I camped out there in the early 70's. Lots of mosquitos there. Did not know I was sleeping on a burial site.
If they had no written languge how do they know that the leader was called "The Brother of the Sun"?
The Spanish encountered them when Hernando de Soto cut throught the southeast in 1541. The Spanish wrote info down about them.
Oral tradition. The Native Americans have legends.
Oral history is highly reliable.
@Johnny Doeboy correct.
If you go there all you’ll hear is “maybe....”
“we think....”
“there might have been....”
“It’s possible....”
It’s a cool place but, it is a big mystery today.
Cahokia was not just the settlement around the mound. It spread out all over the so-called American Bottoms as well as across the river in St. Louis. The whole of downtown St. Louis was covered in large mounds. All removed now except for one, which is back in the hands of the local NDN tribes. I grew up five miles south of the Mound and there is a huge buried village that was part of "Cahokia" under my old neighborhood there, still unmarked and never excavated archaeologically.
I live in Oregon, the Willamette Valley has mounds as well. At one point in time prior to the farmers plowing the down, digging them up. I have heard there were about 300 mounds along the Calapoia River, and some along the Long Tom River. All of this was considered Kalapuya territory. Their is a old story from the settler days of the last one being made. Also it was said that before the trees took over. One of the mounds could be seen when looking at spirit Mt. On the Grand Ronde Resevation.
Have no idea if there is a connection. Just tossing the info out there for people to ponder.
Cahokia is a place I do want to visit, along with Spirit Mound.
@@captainfanta8641WOW
That's Kool.
I lived in Shady Cove for a year. I would love to have known about those mounds.❤
Now I have to go back.
LoL
Great info
who removed them the tribe or govt? I have heard that there could have been giants or the likes buried in them, wondering who decided to take the risk as i also have heard to dig them up is seriously a "dangerous" feat with potential spirits inside etc.. any more info or pointing me toward where I can find info is appreciated, this is fascinating, especially because we were never taught anything about this seemingly magical place!
@johnlombardo7816 mounds of Wisconsin had giant bones that were seen by tons of people and in newspapers. Then they went to the Smithsonian 😂😂😂😂They Gone!!!!
Giants? Evil spirits? 😂😂😂
Are you ok big guy?
I live about 10 miles from Cahokia, I go there often. It is an amazing place.
Just wait till various native tribes decide they are going to forcibly prevent peoples from visiting these areas , like they do at the serpent mound. Even though its a public site with the ohio historical society.
@@johnaiken8511 I hope your not referring to what happened last year, if so..
Pls ignore silly comments
Serpent mound is a "public" site?
It BELONGS to the native American tribe that built it. Along with the ENTIRETY of this COUNTRY. This land was stolen. Period!
@@jonbrockman5308 and before we stole it, it was stolen by other natives who raped, murdered, etc.. what’s your point?
"Somehow the Mississippian culture had developed the knowledge of how to raise this prolific crop in large fields".
"Somehow"? As if this is surprising? A complex culture, a city of 20,000, and he's surprised that they figured out how to cultivate corn?
Well, corn is supposed to originate thousands of years ago from a single agricultural center: Mexico. If the Mississippi culture independently figured out how to cultivate it, then it certainly is a great achievement, maybe that's what he means.
@Klaa2 Which remark in specific, Einstein?
@@RogueReplicant yup in mexico about 7,400 years ago
They figured out how to cultivate corn. Then they got a complex culture and a city of 20k.
@@prestonransome5362 Yes, I expect that it happened in that order.
"The fruits of their labor were enjoyed by the hierarchy." Sounds like nothing has changed. Lol.
You can't' have a complex society without some form of it.
Have you visited Iceland, Scandinavia? Complex societies can exist and thrive when the People receive more of the benefits of their labor. After WW 2, in the 1950's and 1960's, that is just what happened in the USA. Unfortunately, those who run the circus have decided that the lower classes don't really need as much as the rich classes do.
That part is likely false, mainstream will tell you it was for "elites" because they want to program your mind to believe in a hierarchy and to worship the "elite". They recently discovered the Egyptian pyramids weren't tombs for pharaohs, but giant energy generating structures. I'm sure the purpose for these large mounds had nothing to do with class structures.
Its a lie thats why.
That’s a lie most likely
There are many places like this across the Americas. Like I've always said, while in school we learn His-Story, after school, we spend a lifetime learning the truth that was buried or destroyed.
True facts they don't understand that they are studying his story not the truth it's so much lies learned that it has become the truth and the truth becomes the lies
The weak cannot comprehend with this s***the Lost cannot comprehend with this s***because a lie is the truth to them because they lie makes the weak and the Lost feel secure which doesn't prepare them for anything like the truth receive lies and be unprepared or receive truth and be prepared
They ain't built for this s*** I've been telling people to look up the New York area map at night on their phones my Knockswasn't answered if you decide to look it up flipped the map upside down and you will find out why everything we do is a setup
We tried to keep women barefoot, pregnant and ignorant but you feminists were too smart for us. Curses!
@@prestonransome5362 I was too young for that era lol. I was a young child. Most women will stay home and have children. But there is one condition, she has to feel safe and that she can depend on the man she is with. At least most decent empathetic women feel that way. I would have just started a business from home lol Love your comment. It made me laugh. Ignorant huh hahaha
Jack Weatherford has 2 very good books about pre-Columbian American history. One is called "Indian Givers" and the other "Native Roots". Native
people find the first title demeaning, but it isn't meant as the phrase Indian Givers is usually meant. It means that Indians did indeed give us much of
what we have today. I highly recommend these books for any serious student of Native peoples and history.
So the hypothesis for how Cahokia ended is they ate too much corn and ruined their environment? Wait a minute, isn't that us? hmm...
I visited many years ago, and was totally amazed at the magnitude of what that civilization did. The on site museum was astounding too.
The text book, “ native Americans before 1942,” is an excellent source on this topic. It focuses on the eastern woodlands.
You mean 1492?
1942?🤔
We can only hope that Trump and the GOP don't hand it over to miners, developers, ranchers and other right wing anti-American scoundrel republican, like Trump and the GOP!
Glad that I found this doc.- just the other day, I was telling a friend how unusual it is that every place on earth, except for the North American continent, boasted advanced ancient civilizations. Africa, Europe, the Middle East, China, etc., all had past histories of wealth, technology, and culture, which North America seemed to have missed out on. My history education told me that ancient empires in the Western hemisphere stopped at the Mexican border. Now I know better. Thanks.
look up Pueblo Bonito
'Advanced'... no.
That's funny because all of the other history they teach. When there is a powerful people exploring and expanding. They don't just stop unless they die, but then the next one continues expansion. Was there a freaking ice wall blocking everyone or something 🤣
“For hundreds of years people carried baskets of dirt to make this mound”... Oh please, more elitist bs.
Right. Monty python holy grail where the peasant gather mud and claim about societal class warfare.
This
Well, how would YOU do it, oh wise one?
@@chrispile3878 How do they know if they did it that way, sounds like they’re making an assumption to me. How do they know that the structure wasn’t already there?
@odeerg How do you know it’s fact? Because this guy says so, therefore it’s true? I have no idea where this guy is getting his information from. Maybe they had knowledge of different techniques that we’re unaware of or maybe someone else built it before.
@@c09s28 You are ignoring archaeology as a science.
I did not know Illinois was so interesting. When you say prehistoric times that is a good clue it goes back much older than stated at least 25 or 50 thousand years earlier. Who ever built it had to be a great civilization to create so much...
Did the solukang built it?? 😂😂
What he is not telling us is that these where giant buried in these tomb's!
There are old news articles about that. I was wondering if they were going to mention that fact prior to watching this.
During the early 1900's there has been hundreds of giants dug up and sent to Smithsonian. Then never spoke of again.
Any sources? :x
@@sigmacassandra4365 Yeah. Hold on.
@@sigmacassandra4365 ruclips.net/video/mR5i0lI3xrw/видео.html. I think this is one that covers this subject
Great Video.. People have No Clue to the Real History of "America".
They were black. When people say we came from Africa, explain how Africans built the plantation with marketing they’ve never seen. The ships weren’t that big, and it didn’t take days or weeks to reach the US. It took months and Africans would’ve died out by then
They were so called black , colored , Indians , but specifically and factually Moors 🇲🇦
There had to be contact with Mesoamerican cultures, very similar layout.
And the maize that had to come from Mexico, where it was originally bred in Oaxaca
They had. The Poton , Chontal, Yokotan Mayans. Miami derives from Mayaimi.
Thus why they tried to eradicate this part of history so there would be no trail proving this.
I knew this from elders.
Seems like a group of Mesoamericans moved north rather than native americans living differently since the mesoamericans were settled people while native americans were nomadic and this wasn;t widespread in the north.
I think it was more diffusion based rather than mesoamericans themselves
700gsteak
The Mayans moved Northward into the Mississippian Southeast. The remaining Mississippian peoples and the Iroquoian Ani’yunwi’ya mingled with the Mayan migrants producing the Mikasuki, I.e. Muskogee people.
One thing is for certain. The Mayans must’ve been related to the numerous mound building cultures because of the way they built their structures, e.g. Meso-American pyramids and Hopewell Mounds.
“No evidence they had any connection that far south” ... As it pans to a structure vastly resembling mayan/amazonian/olmec pyramids. 😞 Its like its innate for these pseudo academics to pontificate pseudonyms and false hoods 😂
Pyramids, human sacrifice, large settlement, strong class divisions, and wooden hinge. No, they had no outside influences.
"no evidence of any connection" ... Yeah sure, but what about the corn from mexico?
@@ryonlabaw1498 I find it hard to believe they didn't have connections with Mesoamerica. While they didn't have horses for transportation these people were basically taught to run everywhere from the time they could walk. They developed tremendous endurance and could run for miles on end. So they likely did maintain networks of communication to exchange ideas and goods. Corn did come from Mexico like you said.
Seashells, copper, mica, and corn, and it seems culture too, but no contact...
tritosac boats.
how did the Vikings "discover" the new world, if there were already well established societies that had been there for thousands of years?
People like to say stupid things.
There were people-groups that "discovered" the Americas and many other places far-flung, long before the Vikings.
A person can discover something that has already been discovered. It is semantics. To that person, it's a new thing. Therefore, the Vikings found the new world for the first time for themselves, even though there were already people living in the new world. That doesn't change the fact that the Vikings discovered something. So let's stop complaining about semantics.
at least he wasn't talking about Columbus
They didn't. They just discovered new native Americans
Thank you for this video. I lived just 8 miles from Cahokia Mounds from 1951-1982. This area gave me a deep-set love for discovery, archeology, and art. My heart would flutter when I set my feet on this land. (I became a high school art teacher for 9 years.)I’m now thrilled that so much more information about this mysterious place has been revealed. Part of my art making today is rooted in my experience from wandering these mounds. Keep exploring ! ❤️😘
Where is the location of the mounds?
To bad they desecrated the thousands of mounds and dug up all the giants. Way to go Smithsonian anything to try to keep people believing in the evolution fairy tail.
The mounds was also so they can see the enemies coming from the distance
Monks Mound allows one to see 10 miles and you can see the city and arch well from where the king sat and lived. I guess since he was the big boss, he also gave orders on everything and controlled everything like war narratives and housing for regular too. Like us in the modern era, they too came up short despite all that open space and resources here in America. greed and psychopathy destroys each and every time a civilization matures.
3:47 You just said a minute ago that there is "no evidence" that they had any contact with mesoamerican cultures. Now you're wondering how and where they managed to domesticate and cultivate corn.?. And they had seashells from the Gulf of Mexico!.. 🤔🤦🏻♂️
They traded with the US Southwest/Four corners regions (aka the Pueblo peoples) as an intermediary. They didn't know about each other but they both knew of the Puebloans.
Too many assumptions. They didn't need to trade directly with the mesoamericans for them to have obtained corn, there were many other tribes, cultures in between the two that would have been like dots connecting the trade. It's much more likely that they obtained the corn via the many other tribes that lived south of that area and eventually extending in to Texas. As for the seashells from the Gulf of Mexico, you do realise the Gulf of Mexico extends well in to the United States right???? Have you ever even looked at a map??? Florida, Louisiana, Alabamba, Mississippi, Texas, all are on the GULF OF MEXICO lol. Corn obtained from other tribes that lived to the south, seashells obtained from trading tribes of Florida/Louisiana Gulf of Mexico shores.... get it now?
Texas to Florida are all on the Gulf of Mexico and nowhere near mesoamerica.
J A so... they had contact lol so much effort to fix this plot hole like bro they ain’t telling you the truth lmao
I am enrolled eastern shoshone of the wind river reservation in Wyoming and..... European people who are digging up our Mississippi river valley and hiding the plunder of their misgivings...where are the giants that we still have tribal stories...
The giants with red hair that were there before the amerindians arrived, you mean?
Who built all of the mounds and elaborate stone structures?
Yes - the Shawnee and Ojibwa elders tell fascinating origin stories saying precisely that.
The clock is ticking.
I said that the truth is not out there, and yes someone giants have 6 fingers and red hair. I just want it out there
Nothing is gained by playing the one-note ukulele of victimhood, Sir. The dishonesty, stupidity and malevolence of our country today are a terrible tragedy for us all.
Agreed
That's hilarious! He states there is no noted ties between the Mississippian Peoples and Mexico....yet they grew Corn. Where does he think Corn came from?
My folks who were way up the Missouri River have stories of travels south to the Missippi River and furher south to trade with the People of the Land of the Twisted Pot Houses, sounds like Mexico to me...
Why do you become so easily outraged? He mentions the shells from the Gulf of Mexico. The dude presents plenty of facts, and speaks reasonably on established fact. Don't take things so personally.
@@Redmenace96 Nupuqi Om-Re Khonectics chamber degrees will guide you
@@Redmenace96
Why do you accuse them of being "outraged", of taking things "personally"? I do not see that in their comment. It comes across as simply an honestly-felt viewpoint.
Without a written language, it is difficult to know what everyday life was like.
Not going to fall for this crap, a primitive race with few in population surrounded by advanced architecture and vast great stone structures.. there were MILLIONS!
Goodness, I hope the State of Illinois puts money in the budget to update this series. It was a great series with a good mission but really needs to be redone to incorporate new information or revisions.
There used to be a camp ground at Cahokia mounds just south of the old highway that intersected the mound site. Not that it was hurting anything but the enlightened powers saw to it that the camp ground was closed and removed. We as young kids got to explore all around the site and visit the original visitors centers many times. Being on site and learning first hand beats any classroom or internet site.
The “Woodhenge” is fascinating, the “12” is for the constellations at night, and the bigger circles could mean they are from a time much older than we give credit to...
God- I hate the main stream dumbed down media and “archeologists “- I just hate it.
It’s insulting to everyone
world hearitage site, UN can go to hell
Agreed
@Klaa2 What? Umm, yeah- that was TOTALLY called for lol And doesn't make u sound hateful, at all- no no lol
I have known of Cahokia Illinois for a long time. I don't think that I have ever been there. It is only 120 miles from my hometown in Marion. It would be nice to head back up there and to visit Cahokia some day.
Sea shells from the gulf coast seems like pretty good evidence that they would have had contact with peoples from central America too me.
They did, Navajo and peublos always use Mecaw feathers from central america, because of the vast trade routes that were very complex
They had contact with all the other mound/ pyramid builders around the world that had the knowledge of the stars and progressions and built these aligned with the stars, sun, moon,etc. There are loads of history archeologist are not telling us.
@@gregoryleblanc7938 They were in touch... 'around the world'... good grief.
Dude they clearly had boats back then. A little Chinese girl just sailed around the world by herself. Open your eyes it's not unbelievable to think this possible. And now you mention it, asian ppl's, eskimo ppl's, and also native american ppl's all have distinguishing looking traits.......... seems as if they did make a little "contact" back than 😉.
@@shiverarts8284 that’s right. There was a burial ground accidentally dug up in the PNW that contained South American tobacco seeds even.
See my video about the mounds that were excavated in Thailand . There was a global civilization before
I too grew up in Illinois and had no knowledge of Cahokia until I served in the IL Air National Guard at Scott Air force base 2001 to 2007. I visited Cahokia once in 03. I will visit again soon.
I'm from México but I love the native history and I'm very impressed by how advance Cahokia people was.
You realize the entire continent at one point was one single location, not these fictional borders created by the white man. We’re all one people.
Adjust your meds oppa.
"they had no written language". And yet... We seem to beleive that we "know" just how they lived and happen to "know" their culture....? Right
BRILLIANT!
@Klaa2 stop it clown...
Language, history gets passed down by word of mouth as with all ancient histories.
you can learn a lot by what you dig up . . .
if they had corn then they had knowledge and contact,with Mexico.
Awebo.
@@wendellgrim3815 - I'm guessing you are a Republican and a Trump supporter!!
Wendell Grim shut the fuck up clueless piece of shizen
Wendell grim where did you find that information?
No corn was grown throughout northern Midwest USA
I live nearby and can say it’s an incredible place to visit. The museum is world-class. I highly encourage all visitors to see the short audio visual presentation in the theater first. It’s extremely well done and there’s a really neat kind of surprise ending. Resist the urge to wander into the exhibit area while waiting for the next show. It makes the experience so much better and memorable if you do. Perhaps visit the gift shop first. I promise you’ll be glad you waited. It’s really cool.
I grew up here, I played here, I climbed Monks Mound, it is awesome the wind blows through you, it is a holy place.
where is this at
I'm not from Illinois but it's awesome to think that Illinois used to be the most populated state a thousand years ago before it was even a state.
A holy place where a manipulative elite class used their knowledge of seasonal cycles to control and enslave their own people? Yeah, that sounds holy as fuck.
@Johnny Doeboy _Legends never lie._
@Johnny Doeboy Chill out, man. Those are educated guesses based on certain clues in the ground. The idea that the elites occupied the higher parts is reasonable. As is the idea of restricted access. Try strolling up to Barbara Streisand's mansion today.
If there was no written language how did they come up with so much detailed information ?
Dig, sift, study.
These are obviously buried structures. To claim people made these with baskets and dirt is insulting. Who would do such a thing? Obnoxious.
Still. What about when a big sickness or bad growing season give you piles of building materials to work with? Find out! Let's get piles and piles of dead bodies. Bet you we'll have oodles of state owned dead bodies all thrown out in a big pile to play blocks with.
mary brown what do you think domesticated animals (pets) are for?
mary brown unacceptable
...Illinois....sounds like a culture built around copper mining...
...and that corn came from Mexico...
...slapped paw on forehead when the dude said Illinois was too far from Mexico for contact...
...guess he didn't think about that big old Mississippi River as the contact highway...
...only got 3:38 minutes in and found fault with too many things to continue...
I always try to imagine if the Americas had horses before the settlers arrived
You know I studied Archaeology and after about 6 years, I felt the same way about the discipline as a whole. You could say I have buyers remorse for my degree field. They left no written records, but left sweatlodges and burial mounds buried basket by basket. 300 sacrificed girls, do their bones show tool marks? Or is it possible they fell to a virus or bacteria? If sacrificed there must be some evidence such as cuts in vertebrae or hyoid bone.etc. How do they know the leader was the brother to the sun or the Sun God incarnate? Maybe those were signal mounds and the guy on the top was a really just a lowly messenger who knew smoke signals...,maybe they made the mounds to secure their food resources from flooding. They are in a serious flood zone of that time. And so on.
Yeah if they left no written records- where is the narrator getting the info
to support the statements he makes? It seems like alot of speculation and assumption going on.
I mean, how can he say it took “hundreds of years to create these mounds, spanning many generations that lugged a bucket of dirt at a time”.
And then say that the entire place was abandoned and they have no idea why. Huh?
@@MastrMynd A vivid imagination. Most archaeological assumptions are just that.
@@juliesteimle3867 Some people think corn came from Mexico.
I love Jim Wilhelm, he is such an awesome dude.
The Woodhinge was set at 48 weeks - 48 poles. To account for the remaining 4 weeks of the year (52 weeks), the 5 circles with 12 months each (12 poles) accounts for the axial shift of the earth from the sun. The 5th circle adjusting for each 4 year leap year.
In ohio mounds they found giant skrletons n i think thats what these mounds r also giant burial grounds for giants
I visited there years ago! The artifacts
Look pre-Aztec in design with like symbolic etchings!
ERROR! ERROR! Thee LARGEST settled area in, "North America" was the Tenochtitclan Tacuba Greater metro area of the high lakes in the millions. You meant in what would be the future US.
I ve been in plenty hidden woods and ancient parks in the state of ga and I must say the feeling of ageless rest is heavily apon those areas...it is a very pleasant experience....
He tells us there was no cultural contact with the civilization to the south, in Mexico. Then he shows us the life-sustaining core of their agriculture: maize, the main crop whose cultivation spread from an original center in Mexico. That, my friends, is cultural contact. Meanwhile, the narrator is at a loss to explain the Cahokian's adoption of maize cultivation. He tells us it happened "somehow". This is not exactly a rigorous account.
@Klaa2 The cultivation of maize is in itself primary evidence of cultural contact. Its spread has been traced from Mesoamerica to the Mississippi valley. Do you think this happened without human agency? I regard as unscientific the thesis that Mississippian maize cultivation developed independently of the Mesoamerican instigators of that practice. Contact between these regions was easily achieved through water passage, in contrast to the proven but more difficult Mesoamerican cultural migration northward to the southwestern U.S. over desert terrain. How else do you account for the appearance of maize in the Mississippi Valley?
I get a kick out of that they think they know anything about this settlement. It’s all theory.
Let's hear yours, pal.
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Your retort comes across as contentious, ridiculing and condescending. Why should they answer such a reply?
Not all but he makes a LOT of assumptions !
Thank you so much for saying this
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then they say America has no history....
Frozen Wind this ain’t “American” history if you know who the true so called native Americans are.
This is the history of the continent *before* it was named America. The USA was only formed in 1776. I've been to pubs in the UK much much older than that.
Who the fuck says that? Nobody. Shut the fuck up with your stupid shit and go back to your safe space, dumbass.
Griffith Taka I’m not talking the fake Indians like they show on tv and movies and the casino owners. Real indigenous people
No actually they say white people have no history.
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although Cahokia was the largest city in th year 1200, with a population of 20,000, a few centuries earlier in what is now Mexico ( in North America) was Teotihuacan a city of 125,00- 200,000 people.. a much more impressive total.
People in these comments “about time the exposed this” meanwhile the video itself is 5 years old
And this place has been a UNESCO world heritage sight since 1982. Before half you were born. Because you don’t know something doesn’t mean anything basically everyone just 10 years older than you likely went here and studied all of this as required by SCHOOL before education was hijacked by people as informed as those making such ignorant comments!
I grew up in Illinois. This was fields trips for history. When schools had money. Because they didn’t blow it on brainless athletes proms and useless frivolous nonsense
Found this while studying for my College class. Great Video
I wonder how old this video is?
CORN is MEXICAN! Corn/Maize/Elote was domesticated from a wild grass called Teosinte in southern Mexico and the 3 sisters agricultural method originated in Mexico as well...Used by Many tribes in what is now THE USA and Canada arrived around the Mississippian era probably brought by Toltec/Huastec Mayas of Veracruz and Hidalgo Mexico The Aztec Mexica claim to be from the land in the North which i have concluded to be descended originally from a Subtribe of the Ojibwe/Anishnaabek called Michilimackinac of the Turtle subclans of the Fish clan and through the Illinois tribe called the Michigamea and Zuni Tribe of New Mexico and Tarascans/Purepecha of Michoacan, Mexico.
None of the modern mexicans or pale Hispanics look like those mayna murals in Mexico. Those look like niggas and they have dreadlocks which is mind blowing
Yeah & the Olmec look like Polynesians but I don't call them "island niggas"
Where does the disrespect come from? Respect all tribal peoples man, Mayan African etc.etc.
We got the Documents and the pictures to day we lived way greater than what you show like see le petite pictures see JOHN OGILBY AMERIKA.
I grew up in Illinois and never heard of this! Guess a big thanks to my history teachers goes out! Lol
I really enjoyed all the information I am definitely taking a trip with my kids this Summer. I'll be a nice drive taking the route 66 from Chicago....
Also from Chicago! How was your visit? I went when I was very young, and would like to go again this summer =)
Stop at cozy dog in Springfield on rt 66 they invented corndogs
Its been 4 years! have you gone yet. :)
Arkansas has the Toltec mounds , I wonder if people from Illinois moved down here.?
they where all over the country at the time millions and there is a written history but its hidden from us...
@@casegordon5055 Who's hiding that and why? That said, Native Americans are very motivated to have all old skeletal remains classified as religious artifacts so they can't be studied. This is to cover up the fact that some skeletons are European and that, thus "Native American" includes European as well as Siberian people.
The federal statute they lobbied for is something like "The Native American Antiquities Act."
Preston Ransome oh you sweet summer child... don’t you realize how shallow the claim to a new world is when it’s actually a very old world with existing history and societies... but uh yeah trust the same establishment that lies about W.M.Ds
Get out of your moms basement coercedjab. You're just screaming at the mirror right now🙄
The fools can never know the significance of Cahokia!
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I'm currently reading a historical fiction novel called People of the River by Michael and Kathleen Gear. So encountering this video helps give "realism" to the novel--plus I have been to Cahokia several times. The novel is amazing because it expands on all the things mentioned in this video PLUS gives possible (maybe even likely) reasons why the area was eventually abandoned. One speculation used in the novel is that the climate was changing and becoming more arid. As a result food was becoming scarce, which resulted in a kind of "food riot" between neighboring sites. Also, a lot about the "religious" beliefs of the people is included, making for a fascinating read. Check it out. (By the way, I do not know nor am I related to the authors, so this is NOT intended to be a plug for the book.)
'without a written language its hard to know what happend' well, why not ask the first nation ppl who are still around and let them do the talking? they are carrying treasures white man dont have.
The Spanish encountered them when Hernando de Soto cut throught the southeast in 1541. The Spanish wrote info down about them.
Shut the fuck up you fucking stupid fucktarded moron.
What first nation people? Hope you're not speaking of the European version Native American casino owners whose ancestors didn't arrive here until the Dawes Roll Act. The Government physically and papered genocide the indigenous Americans Indians beginning in 1492 through slavery, over 350 years of war, their racist census taking and deliberate destroying of family records and identification. We probably could have told you all you wanted to know.
@@marklott9432 no not the asian steppe indians those they killed and took over.
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My opinion is that these people knew of the light
Ya they probably saw the sun. It's pretty big and hard to miss.🙄
I want to invite all of my brothers and sisters who read this to read The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ. Thank you
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I recommend you read the Bible instead
Ron Lanter I’ve read both. They both testify of Jesus Christ. The Book of Mormon also has awesome American history. The Bible does not so I’m not sure how that will help someone seeking archeological information about the Hopewell Indians.
St Louis was called the mound city. It was part of the Cahokia population
Why can't you tell the truth they had a written language it was aAncient Hebrew. They (Joshua) the Hebrews were constantly at war with the Canaanites! Call on the lost name of God Hawah! Shalawam
Without a written language you have no idea what happened here.
You’re so far off the mark it’s laughable!
Only Mesoamericans had script before Columbus
Cyndi Foore so if you know he's wrong tell us, what is right.
I imagine much of what they say about this place is what we know do know about the Natchez Indians who were chased from their homes by the early Spanish settlers. The Natchez did not write how and why they did what they did but the Spanish recorded what they learned first hand. The Natchez had a ruler they called the Sun. What do you think the people of Cahokia did.
If you don't worship the sun maybe you worship the Son, or maybe you worship yourself like certain politicians of today
If you live in an agrarian society, you know the seasons because, because if you don't you starve. so hench sun worshipers!!! If you ascribe to christianity you could worship the messiaH GOD'S Son. or you could be narcissistic and see deity in the mirror. people are prone to worship something or someone. Why were Pharaohs deified or why did they deify Themselves. Maybe it helped control the masses. why are there so many different different religions with so many different sects and cults. The university are full of anthropologist, translating ancient societies that left writing, but who knows if the translations are correct. We humans are prone to bias, susceptible to the Dunning Kruger, so might not believe evidence, if we see it, so I think my point is, We dig in the dirt and speculate, and I am skeptical of< ( the more I learn the less I know) all the men that came before me More intelligent, men who may have been blinded by their own preconceived Ideas.
These mounds are much older than this dudes saying... Giants built the mounds. History is full of lies from the catholic church!
Omega so correct you are to keep that new fairy tale of evolution going they do anything needed.
Scientist and Historians often present their theory as facts.
I went mushroom hunting, packed my bags and went to my sisters. The next day we climbed the Cahokia mound and my baby was delivered that night.😊
Congrats!!! Did you also find mushrooms? :)
Seem as they had a technical civil society, not a barbarian savage mob of invading conquers'
That made no sense whatsoever.
That's because they weren't mongoloid. Those mounds are found all over Europe.
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The Book of Mormon is the written account of those people..the whole story from beginning to end..
You got it!!
I literally live in Illinois and just now found out about this 🤔🤔
I'm sorry, I'm taking this video with a grain of salt. I know there were Cities in the U.S. before Vikings showed up in North America and I know President Abraham Lincoln mentioned Giants buried in mounds.
I'm not buying that the Native American were the ones who built the Cities.
My thoughts are that under many of these mounds we might find Actual collapsed building brought down by the Flood. Anyone after that time would have been living on the ruins of the previous cities. Much like the Romans did.
Everyone living after the Great Flood were survivors of a Disaster and were living a post apocalyptic existence in the ruins of previous cultures.
There are Native Americans who will outright say, we didn't build these structures and mounds. They were from a different people.
Too many times archaeologists dig up some ruins and misinterpret what they are seeing. It's always the same story. Oh we found this structure and it must have been where they worshiped and sacrificed humans to the sun god. Who knows if they aren't rebuilding the alleged ruins to suit an official "scientific" narrative.
I for sure don't trust the work of any University Archaeology team.
politicalsheepdog so who do you think built them dam sure wasn’t the Vikings. This is signs of ancient Egypt if you ask me very similar to the pyramids
@@killagod4442 Maybe Ancient Egypt. In any case, The Pyramids of Egypt, Large Structures in India, Large Structures off the coast of Japan, the "Temples" of Central and South America, were all build before the Great Flood some 6,000 years ago.
politicalsheepdog I’m pretty sure the Ancient Mayans of Mexico and other civilizations like Egypt built their pyramids not “giants”
@Michael RedCrow Are you suggesting the origin stories of the Shawnee, Ojibwa and others are all BS? That their elders have all got it wrong? That the structures were NOT already in place when the amerindians arrived from elsewhere? That the legends of large men with red hair were just nonsense, after all?
Wow. Those are indeed some grand claims!
I guess with a name like 'redcrow' you must be the real deal, hmm? lol
@Michael RedCrow For more context, research 'Windover Bog Mummies - Florida'.
Those people are 8000yrs old, non-indigenous and found with rope and woven textiles - two things amerindians did not have until fairly recently, archaeologically speaking.
Their DNA is European. This is not a 'theory' - it's hard science, unlike the nonsense being put forth in this video as well as the comment section.
Additionally, Phoenician artifacts and writing have been found in the north eastern U.S, along with elaborate and highly mathematical stone structures - including subterranean buildings - that are most definitely not amerindian in origin.
The ancient Great Lakes Copper mining - to the order of a half BILLION pounds - is yet another obvious contradiction to current PC narratives (ancientamerica.com/missing-prehistoric-michigans-half-billion-pounds-of-copper/).
Going even further back, there's the Solutrean Hypothesis which claims people came across from the area which is now southern France during the end of the last ice age some 22 000-17 000yrs ago; their bifacial stonework on spear points and arrowheads being the physical evidence (There is NO evidence of such a technique in Siberian or Asian antiquity ruling that possibility out for how the Clovis people had that technology).
At that time the oceans were 400ft lower and massive glacial sheets extended hundreds of miles off the coasts on both sides of the Atlantic.
What is abundantly clear is the peopling of North America occurred a very long time ago in waves - and from various other regions - not just Siberia as mainstream taste-makers claim.
Most of Native American History was passed down through stories preserved by retelling through the decades and centuries. This was also true in the various tribes of the South American tribes and Central American and Mexican tribes.
Why that short backdrop image of the wall & not it entire view? Lets be honest, some Mounds have INSIDES = ROOMS! NOT ALL ARE BURIAL SITES! If there documentation of "Theives Taking Artifacts" where are the entrances & tourist sites for them?
Treaties pushed us out & your census recorders renamed us!
#StayWoke
I grew up in St. Clair county and never understood why Collinsville, IL ( where the mounds are actually located)wasn't named Cahokia? Cahokia, IL is a few miles southeast near the Mississippi river closer to downtown St Louis.
Currently reading 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus, and wanted to see those mounds on video.
It's sad that we are not taught about these places as well as them being excavated and preserved
It's just discussing how they did not teach us the real American history. I never knew about any of this untill recently. And it is so fascinating. Our school systems should be held accountable. It's sad really sad.
The real "Rio Grande" is the Mississippi River. Those mounds were the way the Aztecs traveled up and down the entire continent by controlling river flows. The Mississippi river was dried for the Spaniard that said that he was also the son of the sun. When he was asked to dry the river the Spaniard died when he couldn't. Aztecs had those flight gliding suits long before anyone thought of how to make them. Believe what you want, this story from my great grandfather.
This all just guess work based on what they would have done with the property if they lived there. Who knows? Maybe the highest mound was a learning center or children's center :p
You have a point. These sites are always being investigated and explained through a Eurocentric lens.
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GardenBearz it isn’t guesswork the spainish visited many towns just like this and wrote down lots of stuff about them.
I live in moundsville w.v home of the largest conicle mound.they say this was a large Indian settlement upto 5000 people.ide like to know where all these graves are.only ones found in this area have been in the mounds .I don't think they know as much as they think.
The mounds are buriel grounds. That would be where they were buried. They are not to be touched. That is not honorable.
My grandfather carved the totem pole in the visitor center. 😊❤️
No, my grandfather did.
Aztecs started from the North of America and moved tours the central Mexico. There was pyramids found in the under waters of Wisconsin lake and other pyramids found in New Mexico as well.
Wait so a plant that came from the south was what they based their economy around but they didn't reach far enough south to mimic architecture?? Idkmang
Thanks and congrats for this very interesting video. I've been in Mexico and Guatemala many times and saw their huge pre-columbian monuments but never had heard about such big civilization in what is today the USA.
3:25 "it was a place where religious rites were thought to have occurred, but no one is really sure because this was a pre-historic society."
1:30 "mounds used for the homes of the elite"
So, how can you KNOW?
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More OlmecXi -history drip feedings- those are ours too - always trying to take credit for stuff that aint yours- Your days are numbered!!
I've been there a few times, first time in the mid-80s with 3 years ago being the most recent, and each time it looked just like in this video with about 5 other people visiting this site and nobody else.
great video !!!
Amazing to me 4:20 a depiction of Europeans in the painting, aborigines were copper colored. Where did you get this story from if the Europeans wiped out our his-story?
If you ever visit the Milwaukee Public museum, the depiction of the aboriginals is much more accurate. A darker-skinned people looking exactly how they would have looked. You can see some pictures if you looks up "milwaukee public museum native american exhibit" on google images.
Being a mixture of South American indigenous and Asian, they would've had varying skin tones; some darker, some lighter - just as they do today.
Why you're hung up on melanin content is interesting, though.
Exactly, the 1828 Webster's dictionary tells you who the Native Americans were..