@@johnlasley975 Hull down is basically playing on a ridge/hill with a tank that has good gun depression, a strong/unpennable turret and a bouncy upper plate. It means that you can peak to your hearts content against other players and they cannot do anything against you if they don't somehow flank or have an arty in the team.
well you guys keep approving map changes that adds spots for all the hull down tanks while removing soft cover . Yes this a fact even skill said and so did orza . All the map changes buff op tanks and help them play easier while nerfing all the paper tank spots . Funny how that is ok maybe tell wargaming to stop making it easier for op hull down tanks to do even more on the maps . But again will your agro plays or the game balance come first ?? Bc right now this is the logic all the maps changes help all the op tanks and nerf all the spots for all the other tanks in the game yea what kind of logic is that .
I miss the old days where 1. Tech tree tanks vs Tech tree tanks 2. Old HE mechanic where you can do damage with just a splash on the ground 3. No broken OP Premium tanks ruin the game 4. Derp KV-13, T-43, T20, Panther, M46 Patton, because the funny Nowadays is all Premium tanks flooded the match maker making the F2P grind worth meaningless ....
Being able to overmatch your enemy's armor with HE is what made tanks like the KV-2 and the japanese superheavies fun. Obliterating someone for 700 when they least expected it was always fun and it didn't always happen but enough to make them viable to do lots of damage atleast.
@@Fenryr7 lmao the problem was the fact that the non-pen HE scaled so much with the alpha of the gun to the point where 60tp were doing a minimum of 350 against the most armored plates in the game... not the fact that HE did SOME damage... it was purely unskilled ammo type in most of the cases
The Iron Arnie is much less talked about because of the new features and abilities the BZ-176 has, but it is by no mean an inferior tank. Putting a tier 9 medium tank at tier 8 with add on armor in exchange for mobility and some offense stats, really just spills trouble. It never should have been in tier 8 in the first place since it already has the Super Pershing at it’s tier.
Yeah, it doesn't even feel bad to play when you get T10 games. Hell, I'm happy to see a tier 10 heavy bouncing or sizzling heat off the spaced armor to rack up steel walls lol.
@@KawaiianArgument Dispersion while moving is really good though. And you can get the accuracy pretty good with an aiming device, and the armor lets you spend the long time to aim. The insane HEAT pen pushes it over the top compared to the Patriot imo.
It has great armor but it also has weakspots it can't hide most of the time. It's definitely a tier too low but the tank doesn't feel cancerous for the game.
It's just trash like I worked hard for my heavy tanks with double barrels and super armor yet these premium garbage are literally in every match and BZ 176 is like an ISU 152 with IS-4 armor
M47 Improved (aka. Iron Arnie) is supposed to be using the same M68 105mm gun as the M48A5 - which is again supposed to be the same gun as on the Leo1 and Cent 7 among others. I honestly and unironically believe the Iron Arnie should have been a tier 10, just with an un-nerfed M68 gun. Same is true for the AMBT (supposed to be a replacement for the M60). It's a pretty sad trend from WG. Tanks that easily could have been fairly balanced at tier 10 are thrown into the game at tier 8 just with a nerfed gun and poor soft stats. Would it actually be better if they started selling tier 10 premiums though?
I uninstalled about two months ago. Almost re-downloaded for the Christmas event but my will power thankfully stood up like a Chieftain turret. I still watch kajzoo vids just to keep up on the WG insanity.
Stay strong my man. This game is trash. I still play occasionally. Only light tanks and my Isu152. :😜 So many op premium tanks each week New ones to make the game even more 15:0. And imbalanced.
I did something similar. I think I quit about two years ago, almost turned back a couple times, but this game is going down the drain. That is an MBT that they are matching against t-34-85s. An MBT that has mountable COMPOSITE ARMOR. The kind of pen you'd need to get through that could only be found in the largest of HEAT shells, or HEAT-FS or APDS. They put a post-60s MBT fighting WW2 tanks. There's no way to balance that.
How can you play this awful amateur bullshit game anyway, war thunder is much much better and lot more realistic too, well I guess It's not hard to be more realistic than wot. It's ridicolous to me this is not how tanks act irl.
Ironically, it was arty hitting hard what made the games last longer, because pretty much every player was scared of being spotted and get hammered by 600-800 damage. Now that arty is useless that fear is gone, along with bond Turbo and omega broken tier 8 premium tanks.
They need to stop the aggressive plays with map changes and they doing the opposite . Then nerf tanks that need it . Ill take nerfs to my premiums for the sake of the game but i know without a Miracle it wont happen .
Not to mention their match making makes every game a steam roll for one side. Generally mine getting rolled over. But I did have a game the other day where my team went 15-0 with only 3k HP lost on our team. So yeah. That's a regular occurrence. They need to fix that before they fix anything else.
@@wot1fan885 Unfortunately, WG will nerf premium tanks ever again out of fear of being threatened with sues like with the Superpershing and the Type 59.
@@trentens991 right. More and more players are noticing it keep sending tickets complaining and get the forums and post and dont let the trolls chase you away. Post about the awful mm and then leave the post who cares what they say all you can do like me put your truth up for feedback.
I have noticed a massive problem in wargaming's monetization. They promised us to never release tier 9 or 10 premiums, and that looks nice if you dont think about it. But if you do, you will realize that they will just release premiums with the power of tier 9 and 10 tanks into tier 8 since they are not allowed to put them in the tier they would fit in. This results in tier 10 tanks getting put into tier 8, and they have a chance to fight tier 6. So they just keep adding better premiums but they keep having to put it into tier 8, so we end up with tanks like the Bz-176 and iron arnie. So tier 6 tanks basically have -2/+4 matchmaking.
I'm a very average player - my games IMMEDIATELY started getting better when I got the Iron Arnie. It's insane how much your damage per game spikes when you play it vs. what I've spent a lot of time playing (tier 8 tech tree French heavies). I'm hopeful they buff more tech tree tanks next year like they seem to be planning on it. I don't actually mind having really powerful tanks in the game, what I mind is that they show up against things like the AMX65t or stock ISMs that basically just don't get to play the game.
@@kevingallineauii9353 Power creep in the form of something like accuracy isn't bad, though. Is the game more fun if it's lower power, but that lower power means losing half your games to RNG dispersion rather than bad plays or good plays by your enemy? Power creep is only inherently bad if it's things like a card game, where you MUST buy the new product or be left in the dust. WOT being a video game can update those old tanks to catch players up without harming the game. I'm not suggesting they buff tanks by just doing something lazy like making armor and pen values go up or removing weak spots (though they might well do that).
@@kevingallineauii9353 Of course, the biggest issue with power creep is outdated map design. Tanks like the BZ176 that can just get to ridgeline hulldown peeking positions years before any other heavies can isn't necessarily a problem of the rocket mechanic being busted, but is a problem of maps only having one or two viable spots for heavies to go. If there were multiple viable spots for heavies to go, and the BZ player chooses to get to the wrong one, but fast, now they've spent a limited resource to do next to nothing.
As people who do this in 6 years: - never load gold ammo - never have prem vehicle (except bonds tank) - never spend premium account (usually wg give it lol) I'll prefer suffer rather than spend thing on this game. Iron arnie basically slaps anything super pershing have back then. And it makes big suffer for people who played tier 7 and below. I'm agree with the last part with you Lots t8 stock now just suffer pain to play because more and more premium tank on the tree. They should buff them
@@rizkidary837 no. No more power creep tanks. WG needs to stop releasing P2W tanks and rather buff them after release IF the tank needs a buff. They have made it policy to never nerf a premium tank so that is the ONLY alternative to more power creep. Power creep resulted in the HE changes, gold spam and 1000+ hp tier 6 heavy tanks. It HAS GOT TO stop!
Arnie and BZ are basically tier 10 tanks with tier 8 matchmaking. But whats even worse, they are both only playable with GOLD shells, because these days you arent even allowed to earn credits with your gold tank. You are meant to spend it all on the ammunition and buy credits for gold. Although everything could have been OK if Arnie had 235 standard pen and 260 gold pen, and BZ with AP 220mm pen and the same or even LESS pen with the HESH.
I didn't play the game for about a year, and came back to the bz-176 and iron Arnie, wondering how they every thought they would be good additions. So many of the games I've been in could easily be won by people playing a bit more aggressively, but everyone just wants to sit on a ridge or behind a hill until god gives them a perfect opportunity, or until they see someone on somewhat low health to yolo push
an extreme case of power creep (and "feature creep"), unforunately inevitable for a 12 year of FTP game. props to WG for even keeping the game alive this long.
Great vid with a lot of crazy gameplay Kajzoo. I think that WG missed a golden opportunity to make this thing a tier 9 premium, all the would need is to give it corresponding HP and and a 360 alpha gun. While this thing is strong, I don't think that it is nearly as imbalanced as the BZ, which if you get bored while streaming, I can see you making a crazy compilation vid of it like you did with the Cobra.
WG sure had the greatest idea of all times introducing this monstrosity in the game, however, it's overshadowed by the other monstrosity, the BZ-176, but arguably this thing completely makes those who own the Superpershing look like idiots and let's better not compare it with the Pershing, which is the tech tree version. It's the M47, in case someone doesn't know, basically the tier 9 with a little bit less speed and alpha but with the turret of the Super Conqueror. Don't worry though, WG gave it a little cupola easy to hit especially if the driver is moving left and right and backwards and forwards 🤷♂️🤣
i loved this video, one of my favorite from yours, can you do videos showcasing a tech tree line's tier 8-10 tanks in 1 vid? By that i mean is you showcase like the t32, m103 and t110e5 in 1 video and do your usual ''these tanks are op as hell and underrated'' on it. I hope you understand, cuz i suck at explaining lol
I stopped playing wot 3 months ago now I'm in war thunder and I love it. no rng no arti ok there are planes that want to mess up your day but that's why you hafe the gunner. there is also arcade with a penetration chance indicator, but what makes war thunder so special are the realistic battles.
WG: Yes, we totally did just add a tank with composite armor to the game. In reality, the armor on this is based on an armor package for the M48 Super, a German design to upgrade the M48. It also had a thermal sight. This isn't the only tank in the game with composite armor on it tho, the premium tier 8 and tech tree tier 9 and 10 have something clearly based on the Russian BDD applique composite armor found on modernized T-55s and T-62s. I find it funny how WG handles APDS and APFSDS in game too. They are usually under the APCR ammo type in game which makes sense since APCR is a sub-caliber penetrator too. But WG seemingly realized that they can simply use AP for these rounds too and just buff the velocity which ultimately gives them better normalization on top of the benefits they'd usually have as APCR. Man i thought I was trippin when you were driving next to the bisonte C45, that shit looks even more like an Abrams from behind.
Since this vehicle exists, there is no point in getting the Super Pershing. Strange how instead of trying to reduce the power creep, WG are turning it to "11" with vehicles like the BZ and the Iron Arnie. If you are in something like Panther 2 or TVP, basically all you can do is cry in the corner of the map and hope to hit a shot or two. Not what I would call fun
I'd say American and French tanks are the only ones that aren't suffering from this insane OP issue. They're riddled with weak spots to the point that it makes them unbearable to use against other tanks. The AMX M4 54 is fun to use, but if you don't have a position to use your only decent armor, you can get massacred with ease. you don't have the pen to try and muscle through any tough tanks either. The only reason I don't truly go full AMX is because while it is really well balanced, it's opponents are not.
After this Christmas event I've come to the conclusion to uninstall the game and not come back. IDK might just have been me, but the event this years gives you less while asking for more money. Could be wrong but the price up the boxes have gone up. If you play in tier 8 or higher you need 50% gold ammo. The weakspots get smaller and require HEAT. So if you don't have HEAT you are fucked. I can't do it anymore.
At this point I think WG can introduce the T-55AM1 or AM2 (tanks made to counter 1970s and 1980s projectiles) as a tier 10 CW tank and it still won't be OP.
i am a war thunder player and probably will remain so but there is definatly something to be said about the 1 death system, truly makes the games much more tense
I knew it was broken as soon as I saw the armor. This tank is literally better than the Patriot and the Liberte combined. And those were the broken tanks a few years ago.
To be fair, Iron Arnie just pretends to be a medium tank, but it is actually a heavy tank with a medium tank badge. It has derpy gun like russian 122s, it is slow as F, has no camo, no DPM... this tank has literally nothing to do with a medium tank except the badge. And looking at it as a heavy tank, it isnt as broken as it seems like.
Still think the Super Pershing is alright. Almost the same type of gameplay as the Iron Arnie, SP has better gun handling and DPM. How a about some Super Pershing gameplay?
Wargaming in 2021 we dont want mediums playing as lights like the batchat . Next year they add CVS for mediums and turbo so they can go faster to spot and then see through bushes . Then add field mods buffing view range and speed .Maybe remove the ability for all mediums to use CVS let it buff the lights that need buffs .
Consider this has the same armor set up at tier X on console and it works fine. PC seems to be trying to really shove as much post war stuff at tier 8. Like how many 60-70's tanks am I'm going to fight?
Basically iron arnie is just a buffed super pershing. The only reason for wg to put this tank into the game is because they want more money, since we already had super pershing, which is almost as op.
I swear they have put console in a pure maintenance mode or something. So many changes to tanks that are for some stupid reason not in the game. A recap of my most recent return: Re Bought the e75: sold it again not even 4 match’s later. Tank is unplayable in this stupid games current state of premium spam. Re bought the jag e 100 (tank i had loads fun years ago) Welp. It’s power crept at best and down right unfun and unplayable at worst. Sold. Re bought both tiger 1 and 2 1 is unplayable in its current state and 2 is kinda fun but just gets melted with all the premium spam. It’s so frustrating what this game has become
Also got a iron arnie, and i really recomend bounty Improved Aiming System instead of v stabs, its night and day. if you check tanksgg the tanks has really good dispersion values, no need for v stabs. Biggest problem is accuracy IAS solved this.
Despite all the effort WG seems to be putting in improving MM, nerfing kran and m4 54 and balancing maps to make the game better, actually what WG have done is make the game worse be putting OP tanks in it. Those tanks have such a big impact in the meta that they single handedly can break the game. Started since EBRs and bourrasque, CS 52 lis, prog 64. But now even those tanks are not that strong compared to tanks like BZ, Cobra, M4 54, VZ 55, Skoda T56 lol. Like how stupid is that. previous OP tanks not being strong compared to whatever new sh*t WG puts in the game. xD
Honestly, it's very hard for me to make this tank work. The coupola, ring under turret, slow speed, difficult gun. I feel the armor is not reliable. It's one of the situations when everyone loves given tank and you just cannot, despite you know it's OP.
another problem is, those premium tanks are made to make money or to statspad? i mean, premium moneymaker shooting 90% of the time gold ammo... of course the tank is good Gold ammo need a rework. This Iron Arnie is already good, if you make it shoot HEAT as a 'standard' its tier 9 level at minimum
It is a year long video but trolled me like nothing before. 13:52 I stopped the video and rushed to the phone... hmm maybe someone called by mistake continues the video wtf someone is trolling me... and I only realized after 2 ringing, dear Sir well played :D
I have watched some WoT vids out of curiosity, but I still have not the slightest idea what is happening, aside the fact cupolas are like headshots and armor is a stat thing.
The Iron Arnie is a tier 10 over here on console so it's a lot more balanced. If you ever get fed up with WOT PC you should give console ago, even if it's only briefly.
i tried to get back into wot recently and the three biggest issues i saw: gold spamming is the only way to do well because most tanks cannot pen mediums of a tier higher. many older tanks are so laughably outclassed while newer tanks are very poorly balanced in comparison, the T25/2 wasnt even that good in its hayday, and now even the hellcat performs poorly because of its hard capped mobility nerfs while Skoda T25 is dominating in damage most games the maps and games are counter intuitive to the dynamic stats of vehicles. By this i mean tanks like the T25/2 having much higher view range and hellcat having mobility dont mean diddly squat when most maps are set to a 3-lane design with no flank routes or ability to use those tradeoffs that make you so squishy and lacking for dpm. Also includes how god awful bloom is for sub-T8 vehicles and non 500% crews with super duper modules.
Y'know I only wanted an authentic M47 Patton (the one in the game is an M46 hull with a M47 turret) and then WG brings this thing filled to the brim with applique armor that resembles the M48 Super (War thunder players will know this one) It's very easy to get disappointed when WG pulls out a new tank. OK, maybe you can keep the tank in the game but please remove the fake applique armor and make it an standard M47, hell, you can even let it still have the 105mm gun and call the tank M47E2 and make it a tier 9 tank. Is that too much to ask for WG?
I get this tank has strong armour. But in my opinion it does have 2 frontal weak spots, low rate of fire, on the low side for HP and the gun is not the best. Granted it is much better than the super pershing but does see tier 10s also. Great games as usual Kaj, last game was epic.
This guy always gets those interesting games, because he is THE interesting PLAYER. Man , i have been watching you over a year now, the games in each video are always worth watching. Even some monkeys around here don't get that they are cherrypicked , and you need to put moments where u miss and die , the content never gets boring. GG man.
Iron arnie is kinda op, but only in comparison to older tanks like the super pershing. It does alright when uptiered but has low hp and isnt immune from the front. The bz is way worse from a design perspective along with that one medium with god tier armor. Why focus on the iron?
I don't understand how people play arnie and get so much damage blocked. When I play it, it doesn't matter how I angle, how I hide my cupola, whatever I do. The enemy will pen a majority of their shots. Even if I use all my gun depression they hit my cupoola with my gun raised in front of it, and while I am moving.
Probably your best video, i should rethink my opinion about Iron Arnie. I thought he is worse than AMBT, Char and BZ, just another average tank, but now i think i can be wrong.
I don't know if you do cardio at all or hit the gym from time to time, but I'm pretty sure that the match in the first video was worth a week's running on the treadmill
Tier 8 has become the most disgusting tier IMO, with all those BZs and Iron Arnies. It's as if those tanks only exist to ruin your games. They're different from the other OP premiums, like the Bourrasque or the Renegade. Even a complete noob in a BZ can ruin your game - all they have to do is pen one shot from some really stupid random location on the map that no one is ever supposed to go to in a BZ, and you've suddenly lost half your HP. It doesn't even matter if the BZ died for that shot; you just lost half your HP (Side note: A shitbarn can't do the same at tier 10, because it doesn't have 300 mM oF eFfEcTiVe aRmOr and FRICKIN jEt BoOsTeRs). I guess what I'm trying to say is that the problem with these tanks is more than just that they're OP - it is that they are painful and frustrating in a way that no tank should be.
I actually don’t have that much of a problem with the IA. It has a weak spot and bad side armor. As long as a tank has a weak spot and isn’t like an IS7 turret I’m fine
In my experience this is one of the trouble of WoT, the other problem is the premium ammo, literally every single players spams that expensive rounds. Next problem are the premium consumables, and lets be honest, World of tanks feels like a p2w shitty game, with a lot of "Throwing a Dice" component, because sometimes no matter how good you are aiming your shell goes to who knows where. But of course premium spammers are always gonna hit you in your tiny weak spot every single time. RNG, Premium stuff and p2w stuff feels like WG doesnt care about its game any longer
Hence why I stopped playing this game. not just how broken tanks can be.. but just looking at this game, and how easily and perfectly your shots land at the commander hatch almost every time, while whenever I do so, my shell just fucking flies randomly within the circle or bounces on the commander hatch :D
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Sounds a bit like when they introduced the Chrysler GF. Remember the tank that broke SirFoch?
The arni tank it tier 10 in console I wish it was at tier 8
HOLY SHIT 11 KILLS in first game Sadly wasent seeing this live ......... GGGGGGGG
Tested it
Pretty good mobile game
3:14 on 5vs5 i do 22 kills using longman 8
WG: Play our hull down meta or else you will suffer worse than you already are.
I already have my minotauro vz 55 and a loot others
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Yo bobcat, didn't expect to see you here
For someone, who haven't played the game in good 5-6 years, what is hull down? Low front plate of the tank hull?
@@johnlasley975 Hull down is basically playing on a ridge/hill with a tank that has good gun depression, a strong/unpennable turret and a bouncy upper plate. It means that you can peak to your hearts content against other players and they cannot do anything against you if they don't somehow flank or have an arty in the team.
Hulldown meta is the most fun WG thinks we can have in this game
This game reminds me of tanki online, not gonna lie...
instead of hulldown meta all around armor
@@kazekami7313 A legendary game gone to shit...
Fun?
well you guys keep approving map changes that adds spots for all the hull down tanks while removing soft cover . Yes this a fact even skill said and so did orza . All the map changes buff op tanks and help them play easier while nerfing all the paper tank spots . Funny how that is ok maybe tell wargaming to stop making it easier for op hull down tanks to do even more on the maps . But again will your agro plays or the game balance come first ?? Bc right now this is the logic all the maps changes help all the op tanks and nerf all the spots for all the other tanks in the game yea what kind of logic is that .
I miss the old days where
1. Tech tree tanks vs Tech tree tanks
2. Old HE mechanic where you can do damage with just a splash on the ground
3. No broken OP Premium tanks ruin the game
4. Derp KV-13, T-43, T20, Panther, M46 Patton, because the funny
Nowadays is all Premium tanks flooded the match maker making the F2P grind worth meaningless ....
Game physics used to make sense back in the day.
I miss the old HE mechanics,its a shame it got changed because some sweaty tryhards cant be invincible anymore in their hulldown tanks
@@KawaiianArgument sirfoch used to do it and he had great games with it. That said, it's niche so not really recommended for new players at that time.
Being able to overmatch your enemy's armor with HE is what made tanks like the KV-2 and the japanese superheavies fun. Obliterating someone for 700 when they least expected it was always fun and it didn't always happen but enough to make them viable to do lots of damage atleast.
@@Fenryr7 lmao the problem was the fact that the non-pen HE scaled so much with the alpha of the gun to the point where 60tp were doing a minimum of 350 against the most armored plates in the game... not the fact that HE did SOME damage... it was purely unskilled ammo type in most of the cases
The Iron Arnie is much less talked about because of the new features and abilities the BZ-176 has, but it is by no mean an inferior tank. Putting a tier 9 medium tank at tier 8 with add on armor in exchange for mobility and some offense stats, really just spills trouble. It never should have been in tier 8 in the first place since it already has the Super Pershing at it’s tier.
Yeah, it doesn't even feel bad to play when you get T10 games. Hell, I'm happy to see a tier 10 heavy bouncing or sizzling heat off the spaced armor to rack up steel walls lol.
@@flamezombie1 it is very good support tank in tier 10 mm and even has 300 pen to pen most tanks it will meet
It's a tier 10 tank on Xbox. Why the fuck is it tier 8 on PC?
@@KawaiianArgument Dispersion while moving is really good though. And you can get the accuracy pretty good with an aiming device, and the armor lets you spend the long time to aim.
The insane HEAT pen pushes it over the top compared to the Patriot imo.
It has great armor but it also has weakspots it can't hide most of the time. It's definitely a tier too low but the tank doesn't feel cancerous for the game.
The Iron Cancer and Cancer-176 are the reasons i don't even play tier 8 anymore.
It's just trash like I worked hard for my heavy tanks with double barrels and super armor yet these premium garbage are literally in every match and BZ 176 is like an ISU 152 with IS-4 armor
М47 in balanced.
Lets just be honest, this is a T10 tank with T7 DPM.
M47 Improved (aka. Iron Arnie) is supposed to be using the same M68 105mm gun as the M48A5 - which is again supposed to be the same gun as on the Leo1 and Cent 7 among others.
I honestly and unironically believe the Iron Arnie should have been a tier 10, just with an un-nerfed M68 gun. Same is true for the AMBT (supposed to be a replacement for the M60).
It's a pretty sad trend from WG. Tanks that easily could have been fairly balanced at tier 10 are thrown into the game at tier 8 just with a nerfed gun and poor soft stats.
Would it actually be better if they started selling tier 10 premiums though?
lol ambt.. such a kaku tank..
7 years ago if this thing had a bit better of a gun it would be a meta tier 10
Iron arnie on console is tier x and its great tank:).
@@hooskyfloosky1653 TRUE.
I uninstalled about two months ago. Almost re-downloaded for the Christmas event but my will power thankfully stood up like a Chieftain turret. I still watch kajzoo vids just to keep up on the WG insanity.
🤡 imagine quitting and not staying like a man. Weak.
@@metal_mo lol how cute, an unfunny smart-ass on the internet.
Stay strong my man.
This game is trash.
I still play occasionally.
Only light tanks and my Isu152. :😜
So many op premium tanks each week New ones to make the game even more 15:0. And imbalanced.
I did something similar. I think I quit about two years ago, almost turned back a couple times, but this game is going down the drain. That is an MBT that they are matching against t-34-85s. An MBT that has mountable COMPOSITE ARMOR. The kind of pen you'd need to get through that could only be found in the largest of HEAT shells, or HEAT-FS or APDS.
They put a post-60s MBT fighting WW2 tanks. There's no way to balance that.
How can you play this awful amateur bullshit game anyway, war thunder is much much better and lot more realistic too, well I guess It's not hard to be more realistic than wot. It's ridicolous to me this is not how tanks act irl.
Its so powerful, that even in WOT Console where it was brought to tier 10 it still is considered broken
People play wot console?
@@RandomPerson-ob1hk mainly for Cold war
They are trying to slow down the battles but creating more hulldown tanks wont solve it as long as they are fast bruh
Ironically, it was arty hitting hard what made the games last longer, because pretty much every player was scared of being spotted and get hammered by 600-800 damage. Now that arty is useless that fear is gone, along with bond Turbo and omega broken tier 8 premium tanks.
They need to stop the aggressive plays with map changes and they doing the opposite . Then nerf tanks that need it . Ill take nerfs to my premiums for the sake of the game but i know without a Miracle it wont happen .
Not to mention their match making makes every game a steam roll for one side. Generally mine getting rolled over. But I did have a game the other day where my team went 15-0 with only 3k HP lost on our team. So yeah. That's a regular occurrence. They need to fix that before they fix anything else.
@@wot1fan885 Unfortunately, WG will nerf premium tanks ever again out of fear of being threatened with sues like with the Superpershing and the Type 59.
@@trentens991 right. More and more players are noticing it keep sending tickets complaining and get the forums and post and dont let the trolls chase you away. Post about the awful mm and then leave the post who cares what they say all you can do like me put your truth up for feedback.
18:08 that tank wreck just falling down perfectly makes me laugh 😂😂
I have noticed a massive problem in wargaming's monetization. They promised us to never release tier 9 or 10 premiums, and that looks nice if you dont think about it. But if you do, you will realize that they will just release premiums with the power of tier 9 and 10 tanks into tier 8 since they are not allowed to put them in the tier they would fit in. This results in tier 10 tanks getting put into tier 8, and they have a chance to fight tier 6. So they just keep adding better premiums but they keep having to put it into tier 8, so we end up with tanks like the Bz-176 and iron arnie. So tier 6 tanks basically have -2/+4 matchmaking.
*laughs in Strv K and Mle 75*
@@rocket2739 which are literally worse than some OP T8 premium tanks lol.
@@thunder7135 strv is a well balanced premium tank, it's slightly weaker than the tech tree competition.
My main problem with tanks like the WZ and Iron Arnie are what are low tiers suppose to do? They get just go f themselves...
I'm a very average player - my games IMMEDIATELY started getting better when I got the Iron Arnie. It's insane how much your damage per game spikes when you play it vs. what I've spent a lot of time playing (tier 8 tech tree French heavies).
I'm hopeful they buff more tech tree tanks next year like they seem to be planning on it. I don't actually mind having really powerful tanks in the game, what I mind is that they show up against things like the AMX65t or stock ISMs that basically just don't get to play the game.
P2W tank so fix it by adding more power creep to the game. I know you are trying to be helpful but what you want is EXACTLY what WoT DOES NOT need!
@@kevingallineauii9353 Power creep in the form of something like accuracy isn't bad, though.
Is the game more fun if it's lower power, but that lower power means losing half your games to RNG dispersion rather than bad plays or good plays by your enemy?
Power creep is only inherently bad if it's things like a card game, where you MUST buy the new product or be left in the dust. WOT being a video game can update those old tanks to catch players up without harming the game.
I'm not suggesting they buff tanks by just doing something lazy like making armor and pen values go up or removing weak spots (though they might well do that).
@@kevingallineauii9353 Of course, the biggest issue with power creep is outdated map design.
Tanks like the BZ176 that can just get to ridgeline hulldown peeking positions years before any other heavies can isn't necessarily a problem of the rocket mechanic being busted, but is a problem of maps only having one or two viable spots for heavies to go.
If there were multiple viable spots for heavies to go, and the BZ player chooses to get to the wrong one, but fast, now they've spent a limited resource to do next to nothing.
As people who do this in 6 years:
- never load gold ammo
- never have prem vehicle (except bonds tank)
- never spend premium account (usually wg give it lol)
I'll prefer suffer rather than spend thing on this game.
Iron arnie basically slaps anything super pershing have back then. And it makes big suffer for people who played tier 7 and below.
I'm agree with the last part with you
Lots t8 stock now just suffer pain to play because more and more premium tank on the tree. They should buff them
@@rizkidary837 no. No more power creep tanks. WG needs to stop releasing P2W tanks and rather buff them after release IF the tank needs a buff. They have made it policy to never nerf a premium tank so that is the ONLY alternative to more power creep. Power creep resulted in the HE changes, gold spam and 1000+ hp tier 6 heavy tanks. It HAS GOT TO stop!
I got my dmg blocked record of like 9k in the iron Arnie, 1k more than my Maus...
Tier 10 is only gold spam but with iron arnie you can face even tier 6 that cant pen you
unbelievable how many braindead bots you encounter in enemy team, damn
This tank has *better* stabilization values than the S Conq, it definitely doesn't need Vstabs imo. Vents/rammer/aiming device.
Arnie and BZ are basically tier 10 tanks with tier 8 matchmaking. But whats even worse, they are both only playable with GOLD shells, because these days you arent even allowed to earn credits with your gold tank. You are meant to spend it all on the ammunition and buy credits for gold. Although everything could have been OK if Arnie had 235 standard pen and 260 gold pen, and BZ with AP 220mm pen and the same or even LESS pen with the HESH.
I didn't play the game for about a year, and came back to the bz-176 and iron Arnie, wondering how they every thought they would be good additions. So many of the games I've been in could easily be won by people playing a bit more aggressively, but everyone just wants to sit on a ridge or behind a hill until god gives them a perfect opportunity, or until they see someone on somewhat low health to yolo push
an extreme case of power creep (and "feature creep"), unforunately inevitable for a 12 year of FTP game. props to WG for even keeping the game alive this long.
It was FTP only in beta, since the Pz II J was released it's been raw P2W
Great vid with a lot of crazy gameplay Kajzoo. I think that WG missed a golden opportunity to make this thing a tier 9 premium, all the would need is to give it corresponding HP and and a 360 alpha gun. While this thing is strong, I don't think that it is nearly as imbalanced as the BZ, which if you get bored while streaming, I can see you making a crazy compilation vid of it like you did with the Cobra.
WG sure had the greatest idea of all times introducing this monstrosity in the game, however, it's overshadowed by the other monstrosity, the BZ-176, but arguably this thing completely makes those who own the Superpershing look like idiots and let's better not compare it with the Pershing, which is the tech tree version. It's the M47, in case someone doesn't know, basically the tier 9 with a little bit less speed and alpha but with the turret of the Super Conqueror. Don't worry though, WG gave it a little cupola easy to hit especially if the driver is moving left and right and backwards and forwards 🤷♂️🤣
i loved this video, one of my favorite from yours, can you do videos showcasing a tech tree line's tier 8-10 tanks in 1 vid? By that i mean is you showcase like the t32, m103 and t110e5 in 1 video and do your usual ''these tanks are op as hell and underrated'' on it. I hope you understand, cuz i suck at explaining lol
What will be next? equip the stock D-25T gun in IS-4 and release it in tier 8 premium with just add a word 'prototype'? cool
This is why i mostly play tier 6 now. Tier 8-10 just needs specific tanks to enjoy. Or you need full gold to have a CHANCE to pen. .
hull down meta still going on? lmaooo how many years has it been?
0:08 I'm pretty sure this already changed once before with the SuperPershing, comparatively to the penetration of tanks back then.
Bear in mind that if Arnold is gonna give his ok for this tank in the game...it can't be average.
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Glad to have you back legend, hope everything went right and you had a lovely Christmas time
Is it weird that I still prefer my Super Pershing to the Iron Arnie?
Considering how these medium tanks are being designed now, it’s only a matter of time before MBTs get added to the game.
I stopped playing wot 3 months ago now I'm in war thunder and I love it. no rng no arti ok there are planes that want to mess up your day but that's why you hafe the gunner. there is also arcade with a penetration chance indicator, but what makes war thunder so special are the realistic battles.
Meanwhile I drive a tier 9 M46 Patton with 218 mm pen and paper armor
In a month or two, as loot boxes season is over, is when we will really know how this tanks perform...
What was Wargaming thinking when they added this tank? Wargaming: MONEY
WG: Yes, we totally did just add a tank with composite armor to the game.
In reality, the armor on this is based on an armor package for the M48 Super, a German design to upgrade the M48. It also had a thermal sight. This isn't the only tank in the game with composite armor on it tho, the premium tier 8 and tech tree tier 9 and 10 have something clearly based on the Russian BDD applique composite armor found on modernized T-55s and T-62s.
I find it funny how WG handles APDS and APFSDS in game too. They are usually under the APCR ammo type in game which makes sense since APCR is a sub-caliber penetrator too. But WG seemingly realized that they can simply use AP for these rounds too and just buff the velocity which ultimately gives them better normalization on top of the benefits they'd usually have as APCR.
Man i thought I was trippin when you were driving next to the bisonte C45, that shit looks even more like an Abrams from behind.
Since this vehicle exists, there is no point in getting the Super Pershing. Strange how instead of trying to reduce the power creep, WG are turning it to "11" with vehicles like the BZ and the Iron Arnie. If you are in something like Panther 2 or TVP, basically all you can do is cry in the corner of the map and hope to hit a shot or two. Not what I would call fun
I'd say American and French tanks are the only ones that aren't suffering from this insane OP issue. They're riddled with weak spots to the point that it makes them unbearable to use against other tanks. The AMX M4 54 is fun to use, but if you don't have a position to use your only decent armor, you can get massacred with ease. you don't have the pen to try and muscle through any tough tanks either. The only reason I don't truly go full AMX is because while it is really well balanced, it's opponents are not.
last second clutch… these games were insane to watch live too
After this Christmas event I've come to the conclusion to uninstall the game and not come back. IDK might just have been me, but the event this years gives you less while asking for more money. Could be wrong but the price up the boxes have gone up. If you play in tier 8 or higher you need 50% gold ammo. The weakspots get smaller and require HEAT. So if you don't have HEAT you are fucked. I can't do it anymore.
At this point I think WG can introduce the T-55AM1 or AM2 (tanks made to counter 1970s and 1980s projectiles) as a tier 10 CW tank and it still won't be OP.
i am a war thunder player and probably will remain so but there is definatly something to be said about the 1 death system, truly makes the games much more tense
I knew it was broken as soon as I saw the armor. This tank is literally better than the Patriot and the Liberte combined. And those were the broken tanks a few years ago.
Id love to have 2v9 where all the enemies are very low and coming at me one at a time , but no , they are full hp and rushing 5 at a time
Wath the f*ck!? THIS THING IS A TIER 10 IN CONSOLE, HOW IS IT A TIER 8 ON PC!?
so the arnie is pretty much the super Pershing before it was nerfed with better alpha?
These heart-pounding battles were commonplace years ago, then WG introduced this stupid MM that was totally unbalanced most of the time.
To be fair, Iron Arnie just pretends to be a medium tank, but it is actually a heavy tank with a medium tank badge. It has derpy gun like russian 122s, it is slow as F, has no camo, no DPM... this tank has literally nothing to do with a medium tank except the badge. And looking at it as a heavy tank, it isnt as broken as it seems like.
Still think the Super Pershing is alright. Almost the same type of gameplay as the Iron Arnie, SP has better gun handling and DPM.
How a about some Super Pershing gameplay?
Idiot sp is billshit against that arnie tank , compare it directly omg
Yeah but the Super Persing's armor sucks ass compared to the arnie's.
@@cinatiropel and the mobility , and the speed , and the Penetration of the heat
That's the reason I switched from playing mainly heavies to mediums like the Leo or stb. I'm fed up with their hull down meta.
When you compare the T26E4 Super Pershing to the Iron Arnie, you get the definition of power creep.
@@KawaiianArgument because you dont see tier 10s
LOL
Kajzoo: “man!, my heart rate went up so high!…”
But looked calm like the terminator 😅
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Wargaming in 2021 we dont want mediums playing as lights like the batchat . Next year they add CVS for mediums and turbo so they can go faster to spot and then see through bushes . Then add field mods buffing view range and speed .Maybe remove the ability for all mediums to use CVS let it buff the lights that need buffs .
This has been WGs tactic for years now. Release a OP premium that you must purchase something to get it then wait several months and then nerf it.
Consider this has the same armor set up at tier X on console and it works fine.
PC seems to be trying to really shove as much post war stuff at tier 8. Like how many 60-70's tanks am I'm going to fight?
Kind of tank like BZ who are balanced around HEAT round of T8 instead of regular ammo.
Basically iron arnie is just a buffed super pershing. The only reason for wg to put this tank into the game is because they want more money, since we already had super pershing, which is almost as op.
I swear they have put console in a pure maintenance mode or something. So many changes to tanks that are for some stupid reason not in the game. A recap of my most recent return:
Re Bought the e75: sold it again not even 4 match’s later. Tank is unplayable in this stupid games current state of premium spam.
Re bought the jag e 100 (tank i had loads fun years ago)
Welp. It’s power crept at best and down right unfun and unplayable at worst. Sold.
Re bought both tiger 1 and 2
1 is unplayable in its current state and 2 is kinda fun but just gets melted with all the premium spam.
It’s so frustrating what this game has become
18:08 I wish hard cover can just fall from the sky for me in my games...
Hulldown delivery 🤣🤣🤣
@@kajzoo WG: here's your meta.
can some one pls tell me the name of the song in the ´´ Wolrd Record game´´ 12:49 - 16:40 part of this vid ?
im rly feeling this type of music
7:43 WoT Universally used vocal sound, usually when RNG smiles upon you and actually guides your shell where you want it to go~
This man literally played the armored version of the Siege of Jadotville and won.
Also got a iron arnie, and i really recomend bounty Improved Aiming System instead of v stabs, its night and day. if you check tanksgg the tanks has really good dispersion values, no need for v stabs. Biggest problem is accuracy IAS solved this.
Despite all the effort WG seems to be putting in improving MM, nerfing kran and m4 54 and balancing maps to make the game better, actually what WG have done is make the game worse be putting OP tanks in it. Those tanks have such a big impact in the meta that they single handedly can break the game. Started since EBRs and bourrasque, CS 52 lis, prog 64. But now even those tanks are not that strong compared to tanks like BZ, Cobra, M4 54, VZ 55, Skoda T56 lol. Like how stupid is that. previous OP tanks not being strong compared to whatever new sh*t WG puts in the game. xD
Honestly, it's very hard for me to make this tank work. The coupola, ring under turret, slow speed, difficult gun. I feel the armor is not reliable. It's one of the situations when everyone loves given tank and you just cannot, despite you know it's OP.
I'm going insane I see the green among us imposter in the thumbnail on the left tank.
I just don' t understand why a tier 8 medium has 300 mm of HEAT penetration....
another problem is, those premium tanks are made to make money or to statspad? i mean, premium moneymaker shooting 90% of the time gold ammo... of course the tank is good
Gold ammo need a rework. This Iron Arnie is already good, if you make it shoot HEAT as a 'standard' its tier 9 level at minimum
It is a year long video but trolled me like nothing before. 13:52 I stopped the video and rushed to the phone... hmm maybe someone called by mistake continues the video wtf someone is trolling me... and I only realized after 2 ringing, dear Sir well played :D
I have watched some WoT vids out of curiosity, but I still have not the slightest idea what is happening, aside the fact cupolas are like headshots and armor is a stat thing.
The Iron Arnie is a tier 10 over here on console so it's a lot more balanced. If you ever get fed up with WOT PC you should give console ago, even if it's only briefly.
Bro this changed way before world of tanks, the defender, the proggeto heavy.
i tried to get back into wot recently and the three biggest issues i saw:
gold spamming is the only way to do well because most tanks cannot pen mediums of a tier higher.
many older tanks are so laughably outclassed while newer tanks are very poorly balanced in comparison, the T25/2 wasnt even that good in its hayday, and now even the hellcat performs poorly because of its hard capped mobility nerfs while Skoda T25 is dominating in damage most games
the maps and games are counter intuitive to the dynamic stats of vehicles. By this i mean tanks like the T25/2 having much higher view range and hellcat having mobility dont mean diddly squat when most maps are set to a 3-lane design with no flank routes or ability to use those tradeoffs that make you so squishy and lacking for dpm. Also includes how god awful bloom is for sub-T8 vehicles and non 500% crews with super duper modules.
Wargaming: Are we in trouble..?
Wargaming: * looks at profits *
Wargaming: Nope.
Y'know I only wanted an authentic M47 Patton (the one in the game is an M46 hull with a M47 turret) and then WG brings this thing filled to the brim with applique armor that resembles the M48 Super (War thunder players will know this one) It's very easy to get disappointed when WG pulls out a new tank.
OK, maybe you can keep the tank in the game but please remove the fake applique armor and make it an standard M47, hell, you can even let it still have the 105mm gun and call the tank M47E2 and make it a tier 9 tank. Is that too much to ask for WG?
We see do many tier IX and X tanks praying on tier VIII, I don't see the issues now that a tier VIII can stand up to them and win.
This tier X looks really powerful
I get this tank has strong armour. But in my opinion it does have 2 frontal weak spots, low rate of fire, on the low side for HP and the gun is not the best. Granted it is much better than the super pershing but does see tier 10s also. Great games as usual Kaj, last game was epic.
10:45 I think Super Pershing can also do it. He has other minuses but not dpm and armor
you mean the pogger pershing? yes, yes absolutely he can do wonders
This guy always gets those interesting games, because he is THE interesting PLAYER. Man , i have been watching you over a year now, the games in each video are always worth watching. Even some monkeys around here don't get that they are cherrypicked , and you need to put moments where u miss and die , the content never gets boring. GG man.
Everytime I see the new shenanigans WG comes up with it reminds me why I stopped playing.
Iron arnie is kinda op, but only in comparison to older tanks like the super pershing. It does alright when uptiered but has low hp and isnt immune from the front. The bz is way worse from a design perspective along with that one medium with god tier armor. Why focus on the iron?
I don't understand how people play arnie and get so much damage blocked. When I play it, it doesn't matter how I angle, how I hide my cupola, whatever I do. The enemy will pen a majority of their shots. Even if I use all my gun depression they hit my cupoola with my gun raised in front of it, and while I am moving.
all you need is like 1-2 bad players who keep shooting you and are lower tiers
Probably your best video, i should rethink my opinion about Iron Arnie. I thought he is worse than AMBT, Char and BZ, just another average tank, but now i think i can be wrong.
This thing is a tier 10 on console and it’s still super good i can’t imagine the thinking behind making it a tier 8 on pc tf????
I don't know if you do cardio at all or hit the gym from time to time, but I'm pretty sure that the match in the first video was worth a week's running on the treadmill
WT : Even the lowest tank in tech tree can bring down top tier tank. As long as they are blind and you wait passionately.
Tier 8 has become the most disgusting tier IMO, with all those BZs and Iron Arnies. It's as if those tanks only exist to ruin your games. They're different from the other OP premiums, like the Bourrasque or the Renegade. Even a complete noob in a BZ can ruin your game - all they have to do is pen one shot from some really stupid random location on the map that no one is ever supposed to go to in a BZ, and you've suddenly lost half your HP. It doesn't even matter if the BZ died for that shot; you just lost half your HP (Side note: A shitbarn can't do the same at tier 10, because it doesn't have 300 mM oF eFfEcTiVe aRmOr and FRICKIN jEt BoOsTeRs).
I guess what I'm trying to say is that the problem with these tanks is more than just that they're OP - it is that they are painful and frustrating in a way that no tank should be.
Iron arnie and BZ -176 basically should be in tier ix at least
It's make tier VII (and below) suffer more than ever.
You can face hug the Vipera and it won’t be able to pen you as it won’t be able to aim at your cupola and can’t see your lower plate.
Some time ago, SP was considered op, then WG nerved it. And then made Iron Arnie. What a bs...
I actually don’t have that much of a problem with the IA. It has a weak spot and bad side armor. As long as a tank has a weak spot and isn’t like an IS7 turret I’m fine
In my experience this is one of the trouble of WoT, the other problem is the premium ammo, literally every single players spams that expensive rounds. Next problem are the premium consumables, and lets be honest, World of tanks feels like a p2w shitty game, with a lot of "Throwing a Dice" component, because sometimes no matter how good you are aiming your shell goes to who knows where. But of course premium spammers are always gonna hit you in your tiny weak spot every single time. RNG, Premium stuff and p2w stuff feels like WG doesnt care about its game any longer
I think it helps when idiots on enemy not cap to lure you out of hulldown.
THIS THING HAS BEEN ADDED AS A TIER 10 IN CONSOLE. IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME
Hence why I stopped playing this game.
not just how broken tanks can be.. but just looking at this game, and how easily and perfectly your shots land at the commander hatch almost every time, while whenever I do so, my shell just fucking flies randomly within the circle or bounces on the commander hatch :D
I have no idea how something like AMD CDC which was released back in 2015 has to compete among these op beasts.
Remember when the M47 improved was being tested as a tier 9 med? And could actually be killed? Well guess what.
MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY