Villains that are IRREDEEMABLE!? | BumbleKast for Sept. 6th, 2024 - Ian Flynn Q&A Podcast

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Комментарии • 63

  • @J.R.Unbound
    @J.R.Unbound Месяц назад +29

    September 6th, 2024 Question Timestamps:
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    0:42 - My favorite version of Super Sonic is in Sonic 2, where (originally) it was a secret in the game that you could get for stellar gameplay (or if a friend on the playground told you a rumor). Other people, though, prefer Super Sonic to be a story beat. Can these versions co-exist?
    2:46 - I know magic doesn't exist, and the term "god" is more of a moniker, but I still have a curious: If you were a warlock in the Sonic Universe, and you made a pact with any of the "gods" there, what sort of powers would you get, and what side effects are there?
    4:50 - The Sonic franchise is no stranger to amoral villains, with Starline arguably being among the worst, but most also seem to have certain standards that they won't cross. So my question is, what's something that would be so profoundly awful and horrible that even the likes of Zavok, Mimic, and Starline would be taken aback by and go, "Ok, that is evil, even for me"?
    6:22 - Who would win a fight between Amy without the hammer and Chichi in her early 20s?
    6:39 - As we know, the miracle of life is something that Silver holds incredibly dear. Of anyone in the cast, he is the most aware of how fragile it can be. He's certainly seen the most death and destruction, but he's also still very young and naive. I was wondering how you think Silver would handle learning that someone he cares about a great deal (maybe someone who fills a parental role for him) doesn't value their own life all that much? Like, that they were struggling with thoughts that they are worthless and feel that those around them would be better off if they were dead. How should the person revealing this information handle it so that he could understand? His reaction to this is something I'm struggling with a lot in an AU story I'm working on and I would appreciate your insight and as much detail as you can offer.
    9:48 - You know those super tacky T-Shirts that have WAY too many words and self-affirmations? Which Sonic characters do you think would unironically wear one of those? I'm thinking Silver or Knuckles. Your thoughts?
    10:49 - I know Surge has a piercing in her ears. Do you think she would influence anyone else to get a piercing? Maybe Shadow? Rouge? BIG?!
    11:48 - You’ve had questions about "what if this or that Sonic character had to kill" or if they were willing to "Do this dark deed in the name of good" and so on. But I ask you this: what if something happened so ALL the characters in the Sonic universe became immortal? Non of them are able to die. No matter what you try, you can’t kill anyone there anymore? How do they react, now that non of them can do murder anymore?
    13:06 - Apologies, but I need to ask before the next game comes out: You once said that rather than making Eggman a better person, Sage is only going to make him worse, in response to concerns of Eggman softening. How though? Why would Sage's logic wanting something enable behavior worse than his own logic, drive, manic, ego, and plans to begin with? And are we regressing Sage's gradual "it was so much easier when they were simply enemies" feelings/arc towards Sonic and co? What's going on here???
    15:22 - Zamasu, would-be Goku Black, makes a wish on the super dragon balls to swap bodies with Son Goku. Unfortunately the dragon heard him say Sonic The Hedgehog, somehow. How well would Zamasu’s zero mortal plan go in Sonic’s body?
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    16:47 - Help someone with their operation!
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    17:36 - The metal virus arc in Sonic Satam and the doomsday machine arc in the IDW comics. How does that work out?
    19:13 - How do you milk a Chao, and what does it taste like?
    20:08 - What would have happened if Scourge had dropped dead after going super? you've said that was a risk before.
    21:41 - When playing Heroes I was reminded how vague the writing was whether Shadow was an android or not and it honestly felt like Sonic Team weren't sure themselves until they made the decision to make him the original in his own game. How different do you think the story would be today if Shadow was revealed to be an android? How would past Shadow stories change?
    *(Now I’m wondering how the Metal Virus would pan out when he can’t be infected…)*
    22:59 - Which character's death, from any media, just "got to you" the most, and why?
    26:14 - You explored someone's idea of a never-frozen Shadow - your decided on him helping Eggman get the Death Egg up in the air, then "accidentally" pressing the "delete planet" button. What happens when the Black Comet arrives?
    27:01 - In the April 29th 'kast, someone asked whether the characterization for Shadow in TailsTube episode 7 was a comedic exaggeration, or the intended direction for him. You said that it was indeed the current direction […] However, VentureBeat's recent interview with Iizuka described their relationship as: "They're not friends. [...] Sonic probably sees Shadow as a rival. But [...] Shadow's thinking, get out of my face." This summary is _extremely_ in line with games like Heroes, Shadow 05, even Sonic X in later seasons, but I wouldn't say that the tailstube direction is in line with that summary, or that previous Sonic media. I know you said that there were many notes and revisions on it, and it could be argued that parts of it were made for that mold. But isn't there a chance this is checking boxes but getting the wrong, less likable answer? […]
    *(The full question is written on the Master List.)*
    28:38 - SEGA and PepsiCo teamup to create a brand new Pepsiman game. With Sonic Team as the developer, they hire you two as lead writers. Who's the cast and what's the plot? Feel free to add-in any gameplay ideas you both would like to see in this product placement platformer.
    33:04 - If possible, could you tell us how old the Shijin Warriors (Dulcy the Dragon, Jian the White Tiger, Bunker the Tortoise, and Cinder the Pheasant) from the Archie Reboot were supposed to be? Dulcy and Jian seemed to be the same age as Sonic and Sally (physically for Dulcy; don't know if dragons were long-lived there) and Cinder looked to be around Cream's age. But Bunker could be anywhere from a teenager to an old master whose retained a mostly youthful appearance through qi mastery.
    34:15 - If Tails moved to Europe, would he have to change his legal name to Kilometers Prower?
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    36:14 - Outtake 1
    36:22 - Outtake 2
    37:17 - Outtake 3

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 Месяц назад +29

    Omega would absolutely hate a world where death no longer exist.

    • @XXX-st9be
      @XXX-st9be Месяц назад

      Robots aren't really alive, so I think he'll be fine with destroying Eggman's creations. The bad part is that he can't destroy Eggman himself.

    • @Megaman12Protoman14
      @Megaman12Protoman14 Месяц назад +1

      He can still destroy Eggman's robots so I think he'll be fine.

    • @quantumcalmness71
      @quantumcalmness71 Месяц назад +1

      ...we kind of already have that?
      For the guys, anyway.
      Girls can still die and stay dead in Sonicverse.

  • @Letsplaymoron
    @Letsplaymoron 27 дней назад +1

    25:15 Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. mentioned!

  • @NightFuryLover31
    @NightFuryLover31 Месяц назад +18

    Great, now I’m imagining Sonic going “Big oof” at Scourge’s death. 🤣

  • @rabbithaver
    @rabbithaver Месяц назад +11

    "If you're the real Sonic, you won't die to this!" thanks Ian i almost choked to death laughing at this. thank you for your answer! glad to know i got it right :)

  • @slateoffate9812
    @slateoffate9812 Месяц назад +16

    At the end of SA2, Sonic said the same thing as Maria did in her last moments, "sayonara, Shadow the hedgehog." Normally this could just be a simple goodbye, but it was syllable for syllable! What's going on? Is Sonic a reincarnation of Maria? Oh no, how would Shadow react to the realization that he and Maria's reincarnation hate each other's guts!?

    • @DWandLoZfan_and_Knuckles
      @DWandLoZfan_and_Knuckles Месяц назад

      I wish there was a way to sponsor your question because that is great!

    • @quantumcalmness71
      @quantumcalmness71 Месяц назад

      I also like the idea.
      But maybe Sonic is just a spirit medium or channel?
      That would honestly explain a lot, too.

  • @MattGalaxy256
    @MattGalaxy256 Месяц назад +2

    *Question:* What if Eggman met Fawful from the _Mario & Luigi_ series?

  • @scruffymatt42
    @scruffymatt42 Месяц назад +2

    Sage cannot have athe keys to a shiny new Australia, those are the property of Dr. Horrible.
    ...err, I mean, free Australia! Free the people!

  • @johnlittle8045
    @johnlittle8045 26 дней назад

    I love the mental image of Shadow being really, *really* into self-affirmations.
    *Shadow sees a coffee cup*
    "Huh... I *am* the Master of my own Fate! This coffee cup will be mine..."
    *The next morning...*
    "It all starts with this... a mug containing the ultimate blend of beans..."

  • @onyxodon
    @onyxodon Месяц назад +16

    No way my question made the thumbnail, look at their faces! Almost made me laugh out loud!

  • @bluestinger5824
    @bluestinger5824 Месяц назад +2

    How would Belle react if she finds out Rough and Tumble were the ones who kidnapped her father?

  • @SHEEAAGH
    @SHEEAAGH Месяц назад +4

    Can other types of chao be mutated with chaos energy like chaos?Like the speed chao or the one that looks like nights,can we have liquid sonic?!
    (also play gravity rush 1 and 2 if you haven't,they are great games)

  • @chrange9714
    @chrange9714 Месяц назад +4

    Lmao Zavok's eyes in the thumbnail

  • @BirthbyNightmare
    @BirthbyNightmare Месяц назад +4

    22:59 For me the biggest deaths that made me cry are:
    The Iron Giant
    Brok in God of War Ragnarok
    and the manga/anime Pluto (all the deaths), based on the Astro Boy/Tetsuwan Atom series. (The first manga that has ever make me cry)

    • @loadeddice4696
      @loadeddice4696 Месяц назад +1

      Iron Giant did it for me, and also honourable mention for Ash getting turned to stone in the first Pokemon movie which was metaphorically LIKE dying for a minute there

  • @onyxodon
    @onyxodon Месяц назад +1

    You said in one of my previous questions that Mimic would be appalled at the Metal Virus for its unnecessary civilian casualties. That being said, if he were not in jail during that arc and was loose, what would do to survive? Would he help Eggman, the Restoration, or try to hide? I am curious about the second option, it sounds interesting to me.

  • @BlenderJoon
    @BlenderJoon Месяц назад +6

    Question: When Silver stays in the past, where does he sleep? Does he for example stay in one of those Restoration dorms, at someone’s place, or somewhere else? Or maybe he simply doesn’t sleep out of paranoia?

    • @Okamikurainya
      @Okamikurainya Месяц назад +2

      In the IDW comics, he has a little cottage/shack and he likes to try his hand at gardening there.

    • @BlenderJoon
      @BlenderJoon Месяц назад +2

      @@Okamikurainya i do read the idw comics, actually! in issue 37 they show that silver’s shack is an elevator to restoration hq, so i think that rules it out as a place to sleep.

    • @Okamikurainya
      @Okamikurainya Месяц назад +1

      @@BlenderJoon I actually missed that, thanks! The more you know! 😃

  • @loadeddice4696
    @loadeddice4696 Месяц назад +3

    Hi, I'm British. No, I don't know why we have a hodge-podge of Imperial and Metric measurements. Don't even worry about it that's not in the top 10 worst things about this country.

  • @tomcurl8034
    @tomcurl8034 Месяц назад +1

    I think zavok wouldn’t hurt the other members of the deadly six Even if they fail because they’re kind of a family

  • @tomcurl8034
    @tomcurl8034 Месяц назад +1

    What if a Pepsi man game but with Mountain Dew Power Rangers with each ranger being a different flavor and special exclusive flavors being like the sixth ranger equivalents

  • @Pan-cackes
    @Pan-cackes Месяц назад +6

    I don't see anything that contradicts anything between Sonic and Shadow in the Tailstube.
    I don't really like his characterization (just my opinion, I miss 006's Shadow) but Shadow and Sonic have always been rivals from the start.
    In almost all games, Shadow shows some irritation towards Sonic because of his "open, easy to make friends" side while he is rather withdrawn and feels better with characters like Rouge or Omega.
    This often leads to the two fighting.

    • @chrange9714
      @chrange9714 Месяц назад +1

      His characterization has never changed, he's just always had a rivalry with Sonic. If Sonic starts getting cocky with him or something he'll hit right back, in general he's not a fan of Sonic's mentality.

  • @skeletonlover3214
    @skeletonlover3214 Месяц назад +1

    👍

  • @WTSD850
    @WTSD850 Месяц назад +1

    hey if IDW goes under which is a very possible outcome since they recently filed for bankruptcy and are losing a lot of their licences, what indie publisher would Sega move the Sonic Comic to, and if that happens what would you do to open out the new comic?

  • @supersonicfan7514
    @supersonicfan7514 Месяц назад +6

    6:39 huh. So, Zavok’s the most evil between the three of them. Makes sense, since he tried to destroy all life on Sonic’s world. Twice.

  • @ThatSoni
    @ThatSoni Месяц назад +6

    For Zavok being the most deplorable of evils, we ride on the Algorithm Quest!

  • @KOTSOSMC2002
    @KOTSOSMC2002 Месяц назад +4

    6:07 I feel like Zavok has some sense of honor, that he doesn't just wanna win his fights, he wants to best his opponents, to prove he's superior legitimately. If, hypothetically, we had an injured AF Sonic that can barely stand up by a different foe and Zavok ran into him I really don't think he would just off him because there's an opening, he would probably find that disrespectful to an opponent he finds genuinely worthy of a fair fight and would spare him so they could fight honorably another day.

  • @Hey_Childish
    @Hey_Childish Месяц назад +6

    I love how Ian writes characters and how they are consistent with things such as morality. Evil (along with good) is on a spectrum.

  • @andtails
    @andtails Месяц назад +4

    Let's hope that quarter century old CRTV GameStop footage doesn't get leaked and ruin Flynn's career...
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  • @mr.incredivenom
    @mr.incredivenom Месяц назад +13

    While I love the idea of redemption even for villains, but let’s just say some villains are better left staying as villains. Also, much love to Ilzuka-san, but no one wants to see shadow be evil again, and everyone knows shadow and Sonic respect each other. No matter how bad the notes get.

    • @chrange9714
      @chrange9714 Месяц назад

      He never wanted Shadow to be evil for no reason, if they ever make him go all dark side again they'll be a reason for it. Sonic and Shadow respect each other but they do have a rivalry.

    • @Pan-cackes
      @Pan-cackes Месяц назад

      Facts

    • @Miju001
      @Miju001 Месяц назад +3

      Hard disagree with that. Shadow is a bit of a jerk, and he and Sonic get on each other's nerves, even if they do respect each other. The way I see it, it's part of what makes Shadow and his relationship with Sonic so unique. Shadow is someone who may do things that come across as questionable to the main cast, because he's an anti-hero; and the rivalry he has with Sonic is of the purest form, as they are neither friends nor enemies. Knuckles is a more friendly and respectful rival to Sonic, but there's no other character quite like Shadow, and I'd like for him to stay just that way.

    • @mr.incredivenom
      @mr.incredivenom Месяц назад +3

      @@Miju001 i respect your opinion, but he doesn’t have to be a jerk 24/7, plus take heroes, 06, and prime characterization. He’s tough but fair. Having evil again would be a complete 180 for the character. I like him better as the dark hero/anti-hero he is, and I think every diehard shadow fan would feel the same.

    • @Miju001
      @Miju001 Месяц назад +1

      @@mr.incredivenom Ah, Shadow is certainly not evil, but he may do things that make him an enemy of the main cast. Like any effective morally gray antihero, his goals and methods aren't always aligned with the good thing to do, and so he might occasionally come across as "evil" to others. I get where you're coming from too, it's a mistake to make Shadow into a pure edgelord. He's a complex character, carrying the burden and the trauma of his past with him. He's attentive, even perhaps caring on occasions, and he never does things without reason. But his morality is not always squeaky clean and that's by design. It helps distinguish him among the cast and it highlights his dynamic with Sonic. It's true that making him needlessly dismissive and unfriendly diminishes his character, but I think removing this aspect completely also diminishes his character in the opposite direction.

  • @CristinaNunezTV
    @CristinaNunezTV Месяц назад +1

    When is the next Q&A Podcast coming out? Because I just sent a question to your email.

  • @KirbyFan4411
    @KirbyFan4411 Месяц назад +1

    Not sure where to ask questions exactly but i've seen youtube mentioned so i'll ask my question here
    Is there a possibility/chance Metal Sonic Mach 3.0 (Metal Sonic 3.0 for short) could return in someway? I know he's currently trapped in the ifrit dimension with Eggman Nega's corpse but with his recent appearance in Speed Battle (even if its not canon) and the fact he got his own Action figure after so long makes the Rivals 2 fan inside me hopeful he will return someday, will it ever be possible? Or is he doomed to be stuck inside the ifrit dimension potentially deactivated forever

  • @LittleLexi24
    @LittleLexi24 Месяц назад +1

    Black Doom coming to Earth just to find it gone would be hilarious.

  • @128bot
    @128bot Месяц назад +1

    Why is the Black Arms flag in Sonic Boom Fire & Ice - Gothic Gardens ? Is there any lore reason for this?

  • @peacockqueen
    @peacockqueen Месяц назад +4

    Some believe that Amy's fortune cards are proof that Sonic and Amy and Silver and Blaze's shippings are canon, mostly because for the King and Queen thing, I don't believe it because Shadow and Rouge are also king and queen in those cards, could you clarify for me what mentality and intention did you guys have when choosing the roles of the characters for those cards?

    • @Pan-cackes
      @Pan-cackes Месяц назад +3

      I think the biggest problem with the cards is Tikal and Chaos because Shadow and Rouge are not a problem compared to this one.
      Plus as said, these are just cards, nothing to do with shipping although I think there was probably some fan service involved.
      Furthermore, Silver and Blaze's relationship is more platonic than romantic.

    • @Pan-cackes
      @Pan-cackes Месяц назад +1

      Actually that's kind of the problem with merchandise or games.
      When 2 mostly shipped characters are together somewhere, that obviously means "it's canon", a similar thing happened to the Amy and Shadow funko (people said it was a "proof" that Shadamy was a thing)

    • @peacockqueen
      @peacockqueen Месяц назад

      @@Pan-cackes That's why you should never believe the merchandise

    • @kariminal2999
      @kariminal2999 Месяц назад +1

      I believe Ian already answered this as being simply due to the limitations of fortune card suits being limited in number. I imagine fanservice was also somewhat part of it

    • @Pan-cackes
      @Pan-cackes Месяц назад +1

      @@peacockqueen I completely agree.
      There are expeditions that I like but I am aware that they are not canon and that a merchandise does not say anything about their canonity.
      I think this is a big problem with some people, they love an expedition so much that there considers almost everything canon or romance.

  • @v-nus7718
    @v-nus7718 Месяц назад +1

    Wait, Mug Moment? Kyle, are you a Joey Vinesauce fan?