Music & Sound Design for Film
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- Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2016
- Today we get into the process of music and sound design!
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The greatest music library in the world ,is the world itself
GC West I'm framing this comment
thanks u
You can't be more original than the original.
Nice one! Should put this comment in a museum! :D
@@YoungTheFish I agree
wow that is a lot of work
it is, but so worth it
Matt are you here to find the background for your new video ?
Marco Drissi ROFL
+Marco Drissi haha xD
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It's awesome seeing Ryan and the film riot guys build this super team of audio and visual. I can imagine their first feature written and directed by Ryan Connolly, cinematography by Ryan Booth, music composed by Daniel James and sound design by Rob Krekel.
Man... Makes me realize that Sound is such a HUGE part of creating movies. It's crazy.
Of course, people should not pressure the developers and everybody else in the team for making more and more films, cause just one film takes so much time and you watch it in 10 minutes.. While it took them maybe 2-3 weeks to do it.
Even though this is 3years old it still was what I was needing to hear & learn !
Especially appreciate the sound designers when you're working on your own film, and creating every aspect to it.
I've reached a point where I just like the video before I watch it because everything Film Riot makes is good
One of the best episodes from FilmRiot. I would love to see more of these.
I like to collect house sounds. It's almost as fun as filming. The music is a bit more difficult. Impressive work by Daniel James and Rob and Ryan. Ohhh, where did you get that Jaws shirt, Ryan????
THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT I NEEDED TODAY OMGOODNESS
Film Riot will go down in RUclips history
Daniel J, is a magician! I'm super impressed by his work. So talented !
Thank you so much Ryan for sharing! Film Riot is a true inspiration for the techniques I use in my work.
I love Daniel!!!! He's so much fun and knowledgeable too!! :)
Nice to see something familiar and still learn new things. I am a composer and sound designer and I've done a few projects. Daniel James is really good!
10:35 He was onto something there!
I love how rob has a video game controller just laying on his desk in case he gets bored
Well I do work for a video game company for my day job ;)
Rob Krekel that's so cool!
Only Naughty Dog, no big deal ;) as a fellow designer I love your work
This video is so informative, and your composer
Daniel James is fantastic 👌
These tips are AMAZING!!! Thanks you guys.
That's so cool! I honestly thought I was doing sound design wrong but this is exactly what I do when I edit my own things
love your videos Film Riot!
Thanks, this will be very helpful in my next short film. Keep up the good work!
I love your show
Amazing Video on a part of filmmaking that is manyer times overlooked.
sooo much talent!! i wish i had a talent for editing and music
So I started filming stuff for my first short film before they released ghost house but it turns out a lot of the stuff that happens in my short film is pretty similar to some stuff in ghost house.
love the how so much ryan thank you for making me happy
Great work
Great Creative Artists
I'm into film making and do a lot of practice. but your work is a top, keep it up will done.
Loved the Episode! Daniel is the best :D
Folie, Foley, lets call the whole thing off!!!
Yay more Ghost House goodies
can't believe I watched a horror movie for this video... don't say I didn't do it for you lmao great job! you got me scared shitless
rob! yay!
Great video thanks!
Amazing effort, so much work, the Cinematography, original music, professional sound design, color correction...and to be honest, I don't think the story works. Why? You overlooked the most important aspect. Talent.
Hi i'm from Indonesia, Good Job Ryan! keep going....
wow..this is very deep.
Awesome video guy's but I have a very serious question for scoring equipment what are the essentials peripherals when creating a score? I make some myself but I don't have the correct quality software to do it and I have already started the purchase process for Qbase 8.5 and it gives suggestions on have my keyboard but is there anything else that I should be aware of? And thank you in advance.
Dear FilmRiot, I really want to know what kind of stuff you used on set. Lenses, camera's, microphones and all of that basic stuff. Thnx.
if you go look at their older videos they say it
yap... always love your guys's video... come on more...!!!>..
Hi Ryan! I was just suggesting that you should try to make a tutorial on one of the effects from the Doctor Strange movie.
Thanks for taking the time to read this comment,
Jonathan
Good idea
yeah!
MicroTaco Agreed!
which one though? The mirror stuff would be wicked. And the wierd spear things that kill people.
Nicholas Klvana-Hooper I was talking about the portal but then again there are a lot of tutorials on that but the mirror dimension thing would be awesome too and when the world gets all mirrored and stuff
I know you always say that not everything on your show is low-budget, but PLEASE bring back D.I.Y!! P.S. Been watching ur vids since 2012 and love them so much
Hey Film Riot. Do you have some advice on early film makers. Like Beginner film makers.
lolz... Great to see how you guys work together :-)
What application or software should be used if you are a beginner?
Why use foley for every movement instead of using the audio from the set?
Very cool ! :)
Nice Thanks!
During the composing part, i saw your monitors very far away from each other.
Usually, we try to have a perfect equilateral triangle with those and the head.
Why though?
I am curious about that.
Amazing video, thanks by the way !
Finding/recording sound effects and making them feel natural in the film has proven to be the most difficult part of the process for me.
What is the name of the Cubase function to adjust tempo to sync to hit points?
Shoot the hair off a bear's ass? THAT'S A GREAT OUTDOORS REFERENCE!!
Nice video dudes
Wow....never thought I'd hear a Great Outdoors joke at the end of one of these. XD
Hey RYRY. What's the best 3D Animation software for beginners?
wich cuting Programm do you use
That's a Microsoft IE3.0 mouse on his desk! It kills me. This dude has some taste!
What was the first software shown? Adobe Premier?
yo this was cool
Rodeeeeee
Sounds like the Music part seemed quite as if it was an extension of sound design, because I think I missed the melody sounds, it was more "arise-moods-with-sounds" rather than "arise-moods-with-harmony/melody". It still works, I'm sure. But as an aspiring music composer I really built up my hopes on this video for watching how the actual music would be put to work. Guess that little part at the end with the Jurassic Park music didn't leave me completely dissapointed about the video, heh. :P
About the Sound Design, wow... you guys use a rode NTG-3 mic? That thing is very expensive, haha. Also how does the proximity effect behave at such a short distance from the sound source? You're putting the mic at 5 cm from the thing that makes the noise, shouldn't you be keeping a 30 cm distance like it is said in the books? If you don't do it, the sound might sound bassy.
The "tedious" term for Foley sounds realistic, although a bit scary for beginners, hehe... I wonder what term is appropriate for libraries that allow the users to mix sounds together to build new ones, it'd help me a lot to know that, so I don't need to buy myself a garage room to store all various things and "walk the movie" myself. That'd be tedious. :D
Nice video! I'm very happy anyways to see you guys put out a Sound Design/Effects and Music one. I'd have really loved to see the music part be more musical or show something else than just a score on screen (like actually listening to what that score sounded like or why did he use this or that note in it). But yeah, funny and educational, like your videos use to be.
Thanks and see you around!
How many times did Rob say 'ultimately' in this video?
Lol when Ryan gets a new shirt and hasn't washed and dried yet
Hi,
how do you you fill audience in an empty auditorium shot for my film?
Whadupp Ryanoooo!
Ryan can you make "DIY blimp"?
I have a question, though: is there any sound, besides dialogue, recorded "live" on set while shooting? And let's say that a character is talking while, for example, he is using a typewriter: I may want to use the sound of a typewriter I recorded previously, but how do I mix that sound in my timeline? Along with my character's dialogue, there is also going to be the typewriting sound I picked up with the dialogue itself.
Often times you will only have the character mimic the actual typing instead of actually hitting the keys if you are trying to avoid marrying the typing sound to the dialog. You could then just record "wild" the typewriter on set which means just recording the sound and not rolling camera. If you are adding the sound of the typewriter in after the fact during post production you would put the typewriter recording on a different track in your DAW and mix the volume level till it works with the dialog.
As for other sound recorded "live" basically anything that is happening on set during the scenes are captured. In Ghost House that includes some footsteps and box drops. Those sounds are inconsistent and usually need some extra additions in order to get them to read and feel right.
Hey, Rob. Aspiring audio engineer here and I was wondering if you could maybe give me some tips on recording and editing sounds for film. I'm currently helping my girlfriend work on some short films she had in mind and potentially some friends I met in school. As of right now, the only equipment I have available are 2 JK Mic-J Lavaliers and I believe 6 Neewer Lavaliers. We've planned to use these for all the recording of these short films as they were cheap and we have a very low budget. However, would you recommend anything else equipment wise that we should use?
daaamn! a sound designer using protools ? :O haha
What software he is using for composing
I have a doubt about the the organization of Robert's work. Does he do some kind of list of all the foley sound he needs after watching the footage before actually begining to edit?
Absolutely. This was a pretty brief over view of the process so it's definitely missing some details. I use markers in protools and spot all the foley that I think we need and then create a recording list from those markers. On a higher budget film where you are going to a foley stage you would bring the marked up session as well as your list to make it faster for the foley walkers to know what they need to hit.
Definitely going to use this advice in future videos.
By the way, we just uploaded a new sketch today called
"The Proposal". So if you're reading this and want to check out a small channel then come on by! And sorry for the spam I just want to help grow the filmmaking community. ✌️️
StuffWeUnderstand nice to see you here :)
StuffWeUnderstand that was a great video. And it's ok no one cares about spam its hard to grow as a small channel. Subbed!
Film riot should give you guys a shoutout
StuffWeUnderstand lolol what did I just watch
dat was a good sketch
What is the software used?
Dude, when are they going to announce the winners??
how to color grading for short movie ?
How do you make cool sci-fi sounds?
Uploaded as I'm working on a short film trailer for school; What is life?!?
Pro tools
Can u suggest good editing software for windows os
Premiere Pro
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Explain the complete process of voice over/podcasting. I just ordered audio technica at2020 with focusrite scarlett solo (2nd gen) and I am stuck between Adobe Audition and Reaper. Provide a complete setup process of recording/editing a voice over/podcast in a home studio. Thanks
Kamran Aslam Well, in my experience of being a live sound engineer, it seems like you've made a wrong choice in mic and interface. IINM, the AT2020 is a USB mic, while the Solo is also uses USB to send audio back and forth. However, usually the case is that the microphone should be an analogue mic, such as a Rode NT-1a that uses the industry standard of female XLR.
After sorting that dohicky, connect the mic to the interface, then download the interface's drivers, decide on a DAW, and record away on your preferred daw choice chosen.
I use Reaper during live events to record simple 2 track outs because of it being very light and wouldn't slow down my computer as I project video, play music, and occasionally use a sound console support software.
The thing is this is the setup that was in my budget range. Other thing is these things are way more expensive in our country and amazon doesn't ship here in Pakistan too so I have to spend an extra $140 just to ship these to my home. I've heard great things about both focusrite solo and at2020. Can you explain more How it was a bad choice? BTW I am gonna be using these for just a lil bit of voice overs on fiverr and other freelancing sites.
Kamran Aslam oh, hmmmmmmmmm. Well I don't know what to say but your interface and mic isn't compatible with each other. If you can, sell off the AT2020, and buy a AT2035 that uses XLR. As for right now, you can still use your equipment, but your interface has wasted potential. Within the DAW if your choice, choose your Solo as the hardware/playback device. Then as your input of your channel, choose the AT2020. If it works, it works. But that's all I can think of over the top of my head
but I've seen people use the at2020 with focusrite solo. There are bunch of videos on youtube as well tho. I've seen at2035 quality and I know technically it is supposed to be better than at2020 and there little quality difference is there but to an average human it looks 100% identical. That's why I chose this one over any other.
Kamran Aslam well its completely by preference. To me I feel your interface is wasted as its potential isn't fully realised. For the AT2020, it's good for a starter and somebody on a budget, but it's just that: a beginner's mic. If you have the opportunity, listen to audio recordings of your AT2020 that's bounced in 24bit / 192khz / WAV interleaved with proper monitors. Then listen to a simple Shure SM58 in the same way. It'll be completely night and day. As the AT2020 is completely digital via USB, it cannot reproduce your analogue voice as nicely and smoothly as how an audio interface can.
Speaking of temp tracks, Magnificent 7 sounded like every John Wayne western; don't know if that was just a homage.
Jurassic Park !!! 😍
Doctor Strange fx pls pls pls
How do you hook up a piano keyboard to the computer because that has been confusing me?
Robbie Skaff That's not actually a piano (which plays strings), it's a MIDI keyboard. There are electric sensors under each key so the keyboard can detect which keys are pressed and how hard. This data is then sent via USB in the MIDI protocol to the computer which then plays the sound the key was assigned to (the "sample")
Thank you for the help, I was aware of the midi cables. I was confused on how they actually connected to a computer. Is it like MIDI to USB? Or MIDI to MIDI and you need an audio interface?
Thanks Again.
Robbie Skaff Old devices still have the big round MIDI connector, for which you need a small MIDI to USB adapter cable. Newer devices just have a USB output
Okay thank you, figured it was an adaptor.
In one of the scenes, a woman screamed (of course, the sound was off). Ordinarily, is the actor adept at screaming on cue or does the sound designer “locate” or recreate a good scream?
Not sure what you mean by "the sound was off". Her scream is what was recorded on set during that take. While shooting chances are you'll have multiple takes to choose from and possibly even some wild takes that you can edit in later. It's not normal practice at all to replace a scream with someone who is not the actual actor.
Oh, I meant at 4:22. Thanks for your reply-I was simply wondering what might happen if an actor does a great job with the role but happens to be unable to pull off a good scream.
Ahhh I see what you meant now. hopefully if/when you are casting someone and you know they will have to scream you will have them do that at their audition to make sure they can do it well enough. The very last resort would be to use someone else's scream and edit it to fit the scene.
6:18 shots fired at Tony from Every Frame a Painting? Oh snap! RUclips dramaaaaaaa!
No shots. Just respectfully disagreeing. You can have a difference of opinion without a fight. :)
Film Riot Holy crap, you responded! I hope you know I was joking (that sounds like backpedaling but I'm serious)! Love both of your channels, and I hate drama, so I'm glad you can feel differently without being obnoxious about it (as so many other RUclipsrs would love to be). All the best!
As a composer myself, I can see how temp music can be a massive creative problem especially in larger projects that take a lot of time. I wonder how Dan James (+dazexus) feels about it.
Being a composer myself as well I would definitely prefer not to have to work with a temp score
*HEY RYAN!* Please beg Adobe for MIDI support is Audition.
Audition isn't really a DAW, now is it
Unless production audio is absent or complete garbage, why do you foley stuff like the bed? It's not on a dialogue track.
You guys should do a tutorial on dr strange effects
what is app name
How do I make my music, sound like it's in my scene? Like. Coming from a radio, in my shot
Isaiah Schardt
LOL I'm late, but a simple Equalizer technique of filtering the Low and High frequencies while raising the Mid's (somewhere around 1kHz-3.5kHz) should do the trick. You can even utilize Lo-Fi plugins to beat it down even more. But there's also a lot of amazing plug-ins out there that applies the "radio effect" to any sounds you want without having you do all the work. Hope this helped.
What's the editing software at 1:29?
Adobe Premiere Pro CC
{ second floor pictures } thx :)
Why "room tone" and not a simple reverb? does artificial reverb sound fake in this context?
I doubt it. I use artificial reverb. As long as the reverb release is appropriate for the tone. There are so many ways to do it. They are just talking about how they get it done. I Personally like artificial reverb because we can manipulate it in case it was already written.
Is it Rob editing music with PS4 controllers? I saw three controllers on rob's table
My day job is working for a game company ;)
which is the coolest job in the world!! except sleep lover
So many movies are released these days but so few of them are actually memorable or satisfying. I think a great score can be crucial for a really good film. These days people use scoring software like Dorico ( www.dorico.com/ ) for creating film music. Thanks for sharing the video.
why weren't the short film shot in 16:9?
LeanderDigerudYt they shot on Alexa Mini and vintage anamorphic lenses so you squeeze image in your editor. It looks amazing!
i does look better indeed, i was just wondering:)
most of his short films are with a 2.4 aspect ratio, its more cinematic
Still waiting for intercept
:O he said a*# !!!