Nice, but it would have been helpful if you had shown us the information sign or card for each bus that had one, and maybe the manufacturer's nameplate on the front of the ones outside. Also, why did you skip over the Peter Pan bus? Also, you walked around and through the first New Look, but just walked on by the other two, and barely showed us the Flxible New Look.
It'd be nice to see something without a GM engine. You Americans don't have much variety in engine sound like other parts of the world get to enjoy. I love Detroit diesels though.
James French idk where you live, but Detroit Diesel (or GM engines) are a thing of the past. Buses nowadays are equipped with Cummins ISL with the latest EPA standards or a CAT engine. While our transmission option stays with Allison and Voith. It would be rare to see an old bus with a Detroit Diesel, luckily, I live by a depot that has old buses still running.
TheMikeTransit Australia where I got to enjoy Detroit Diesels, mainly in luxury tour coaches, rarely in transit buses. We had it all here, from British to European and American power. Transmissions included Wilson semi automatics from England (no longer common now) to Allison, ZF and Voith, not to mention manual gearboxes yup Rio the 1990s. Makes that were common were British like AEC (makers of London's buses) and Leyland, German like MAN (which were sold in some U.S cities) and Mercedes Benz (same engine blocks and hub reduction axles as MAN), Swedish like Scania, Volvo, and some Australian devised chassis that used American sourced driveline componentry. GM Detroit diesel used to hold 95% of the U.S transit market at one time and that was ridiculous. Thankfully, you have expanded your horizons since then.
James French GM didn't always Neccesarily hold 95% of the market, their were other companies back then at the time that were there, plenty of options, but most most transit companies preferred GM over the remarkable specs and performance they had. The companies that consist of manufacturing back then were Flxible, Eagle, Gillig, North American Flyer (before they were renamed to New Flyer), Prevost, and MCI. And yeah, I forgot to mention we have ZF too in the market as always. It depends on the transit companies needs. I usually tend to film older buses because they are in my interest more than the new equipment. Plus, if you see a lot of vintage buses that are retired and recently filmed, they are owned by private owners, groups, or museums. I tend to travel all over the East coast for bus meetups
TheMikeTransit yeah I was aware you lot have ZF ecomat well established over your side of the pond. I once heard a recording of a 1994 New Flyer with Detroit/ 5 speed ZF Ecomat combo and it sounded exquisite!! In the 60s & 70s (until the Ecomat came out in 1980) we had the 2 speed ZF busmatic in many buses here and they acted very similar to your Dana Spicer torque converter transmissions and Allison 2 speed boxes in your new looks. Super slow and inefficient, but smooth! Here in Sydney we have vintage double decker buses from the 1930s to the 70s running in the centre of the city for Australia day. Sydney also had a big fleet of the rear platform deckers that were retired in 1976. This event attracts large crowds and lots of people pose for selfies in front of the buses. Two restored ex London red deckers also take part.
Nice, but it would have been helpful if you had shown us the information sign or card for each bus that had one, and maybe the manufacturer's nameplate on the front of the ones outside. Also, why did you skip over the Peter Pan bus? Also, you walked around and through the first New Look, but just walked on by the other two, and barely showed us the Flxible New Look.
loving this!
I am enjoying this as well.
What's the location on this museum.
Yes. That would have been nice to know.
Sweet.
It'd be nice to see something without a GM engine.
You Americans don't have much variety in engine sound like other parts of the world get to enjoy.
I love Detroit diesels though.
James French idk where you live, but Detroit Diesel (or GM engines) are a thing of the past. Buses nowadays are equipped with Cummins ISL with the latest EPA standards or a CAT engine. While our transmission option stays with Allison and Voith. It would be rare to see an old bus with a Detroit Diesel, luckily, I live by a depot that has old buses still running.
TheMikeTransit Australia where I got to enjoy Detroit Diesels, mainly in luxury tour coaches, rarely in transit buses.
We had it all here, from British to European and American power.
Transmissions included Wilson semi automatics from England (no longer common now) to Allison, ZF and Voith, not to mention manual gearboxes yup Rio the 1990s.
Makes that were common were British like AEC (makers of London's buses) and Leyland, German like MAN (which were sold in some U.S cities) and Mercedes Benz (same engine blocks and hub reduction axles as MAN), Swedish like Scania, Volvo, and some Australian devised chassis that used American sourced driveline componentry.
GM Detroit diesel used to hold 95% of the U.S transit market at one time and that was ridiculous. Thankfully, you have expanded your horizons since then.
James French GM didn't always Neccesarily hold 95% of the market, their were other companies back then at the time that were there, plenty of options, but most most transit companies preferred GM over the remarkable specs and performance they had. The companies that consist of manufacturing back then were Flxible, Eagle, Gillig, North American Flyer (before they were renamed to New Flyer), Prevost, and MCI.
And yeah, I forgot to mention we have ZF too in the market as always. It depends on the transit companies needs. I usually tend to film older buses because they are in my interest more than the new equipment. Plus, if you see a lot of vintage buses that are retired and recently filmed, they are owned by private owners, groups, or museums. I tend to travel all over the East coast for bus meetups
TheMikeTransit yeah I was aware you lot have ZF ecomat well established over your side of the pond. I once heard a recording of a 1994 New Flyer with Detroit/ 5 speed ZF Ecomat combo and it sounded exquisite!!
In the 60s & 70s (until the Ecomat came out in 1980) we had the 2 speed ZF busmatic in many buses here and they acted very similar to your Dana Spicer torque converter transmissions and Allison 2 speed boxes in your new looks. Super slow and inefficient, but smooth!
Here in Sydney we have vintage double decker buses from the 1930s to the 70s running in the centre of the city for Australia day.
Sydney also had a big fleet of the rear platform deckers that were retired in 1976. This event attracts large crowds and lots of people pose for selfies in front of the buses. Two restored ex London red deckers also take part.
There's Cummins and Cat(erpillar). I also love Detroit Diesels, esp.the V71s.