Mystery of the Cut WaPeach | Mario Cut Content
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024
- As Wario & Waluigi are to Mario & Luigi, Peach was also set to have an evil counterpart called "WaPeach", but was cut. But, there are big mysteries and details around her. Today we explore these.
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Artist Credits:
Art of angry Wapeach, Wapeach on a bike with Wario and Waluigi, Wapeach in a vehicle driven by Wario and Waluigi:
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Art of Wapeach in a full dress:
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Art of Wapeach giving the stinkeye with:
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Art of Wapeach being carried by Wario and Waluigi:
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Art of Wapeach and Wayoshi:
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Art of an angry Wapeach having beaten Wario and Waluigi:
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3D Art and model of Wapeach:
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3D low poly model of Wapeach
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Art of Wapeach, Wario, and Waluigi in a Ginyu Force pose:
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Art of Wapeach and Princess Peach together:
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Art of WaRosalina (Woesalina):
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Art of Wario-Peach merger:
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Video Footage Credits:
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Update notes to be posted here too:
- So one additional reason for the rejection that I neglected to mention is that Miyamoto rejected WaPeach for Tennis originally due to the similaries to Doronjo from the Yatterman anime. Source can be found here yatterman www.ndw.jp/waluigi-interview-221021/
Now that the cat's out of the bag, Wapeach has been literally all over the place and so much fan art. Nintendo making her canon would be interesting lol
Well Bowsette sure didn't become canon despite all the fan art, so not expecting this one either
@@TheObsessiveGamer Wapeach has a higher do to being something a employee was seriously working on rather then a meme that conflicts with the e rating.
@@Wolf-oc6txwith that logic waluigi would be canon, but hes still not. It boils down to them being created by an outsourced studio so nintendo will never recognize them.
@@EndOfBliss I don't think the chances are high but there higher then something they are uncomfortable with the mere idea of.
@@TheObsessiveGamerBowsette is a fan-creation though, there’s a lotta legal nonsense to navigate through that.
It's such a shame the creator of her had to lock his account. I hope he didn't get in any trouble for sharing this :(...
Yeah likewise. I am hoping he just got a warning and he is okay to keep working on these games
If wapeach was greenlit, we would see her as a plush, on gift wrappings, and all kinds of merch you can think of.
They probably gave up when they realized they can't make her as "cute" as Waluigi.
I mean afterall Luigi>Peach in cuteness, so they knew this wasn't gonna work in the evil coutnerparts case either :P
It may be a little conspiratorial, but there is a part of me that thinks that the leak of Wapeach was intentional. I feel like there is a bit of a demand for bratty, gremlin-type characters lately and Wapeach fits the role. Maybe Nintendo wanted to gauge a reaction to the character to see if adding her in a later game would get a positive reception.
Would be neat if this was the case. The trio there feels so much more complete this way
But Nintendo already has a bratty, gremlin-type character? Bowser Junior!
@@Roonifer now a female human too :P
Of course; they _have_ watched the American cartoon "Rugrats", where Angelica wasn't supposed to be a character, but *did* appear, adding a whole new dynamic to the show. In _my_ mind, Wapeach is like someone turned Doronjo INTO Angelica. Then again, I have seen a short film series (called "Toad's Rage") that introduces the character of the "Nemetoad" as a DBZ villain character. In my mind, HE'D be bossing Wapeach around in secret, then she'd either try to force Wario and Waluigi to do the plan, or just screw Nemetoad's plan and force the Warios to do her *own* thing. Then it all inevitably leads to their defeat, similar to Team Rocket in the Pokemon anime...
@@RooniferA FEMALE bratty gremlin type character.
If they wanted an anti-Peach, the possessed version of her at the end of Thousand-Year Door would have been a perfect inspiration. It's got the purple color scheme and all.
Makes one wonder if some inspiration was taken from that idea when making the anti-Peach there?
I think there are some unofficial rules that they operate by at Nintendo.
1. Since “Shadow Queen Peach” is from a separate spinoff series like Paper Mario, such characters are usually not considered since it didn’t come from a mainline Mario title.
2. “Shadow Queen Peach” isn’t her own separate character and is a possessed form of Peach. This may not be entirely relevant since Nintendo has no problem depicting “Mario” and “Metal Mario” as separate characters in Mario Kart.
3. While Wario and Waluigi are considered to be antagonists, I think the design and personality of “Shadow Queen Peach” is too sinister and ominous to be a contender as a “WaPeach” variant of Princess Peach. Before the original concept art was revealed, I personally envisioned a “WaPeach” design that’s akin to the stepsisters from Cinderella: Ugly face, snooty, tacky, yet still wearing the attire of a princess and having the personality of a typical b*tch than being a female Emperor Palpatine.
@@UndertakerU2ber yeah I don't think we considering the Shadow Queen to be WaPeach, but just more the influence might have been there to design a character like that
Considering the concept art we got was for Mario Power Tennis, I'm pretty sure the inclusion of the axe was an idea for a Power Shot (similar to how Mario uses a hammer for one his Power Shots), rather than an idea for future potential game appearances...
Yeah probably was the case, but I still wouldn't be surprised if there was some idea for future proofing too. They've done that before with other characters like how they made Rosalina a giant in her first apperance just so they could have another heavy weight for Mario Kart
Wapeach looks nothing like I imagined she would. By the way Miyamoto feared her design, I thought that she would literally be a purple peach with Wario’s nose and ears. And the fact they tried bringing her back for Mario Power Tennis is insane.
Why Tennis tho? She doesn't look relevant with tennis, does she?
Immediately drawing fanart of WaPeach. My heart is hers.
Alot of good fanart out there and can't wait to see yours too!
I can imagine Wapeach herself as the reason her kingdom collapsed.
Young and bratty, very likely short-sighted; she could've driven her kingdom to ruin thanks to ridiculous demands or terrible leadership.
It's also possible she scared off her own citizens (for more comedic end), thus ruining her kingdom.
That last part would be hilarious. Big tyranny leading her people to leave (and go to the Mushroom Kingdom instead)
Surprised you didn’t mention the possible inspiration for the axe. In SMB1 it was used to destroy the bridge to drop Bowser into lava, so I think she was given an axe as a callback to that.
Well I didn't really think of it as so much an inspiration as more the classic trope of a little girl wielding a giant axe. Something a number of Japanese mediums seem to show
Her axe makes me think of the trend of little cute girls wielding big hammers, and having a chaotic temper
Annoying overused trend.
@@INFERNO95 You and I are now mortal enemies
The design for Wapeach is good. I am pretty sure she would be even more popular than Peach.
Not even close.
She could have been Peach's Twin Sister, but she had a stunted growth so instead of looking like Peach she appears more child-like even though she's just as old as Peach, but it would have been funny if she was actually born before Peach, which would make Wapeach the Older sister but everyone thinks she's the Younger sister, which would explain why she's so resentful towards Peach, but we might never get to see that happen, even though it would be fun anyways.
That would require a very significant change in main cast and it makes sense why Nintendo don't want it if they want to keep the original. Maybe it could be more excecuteable if you try to apply this setting to some brand new characters instead? Like Olivia and Olly.
I don't think it would be that big a change, I mean it's not like Nintendo actually cares about giving their characters any depth anyways, since Wapeach wouldn't like Peach anyways, we wouldn't have really seen the two of them together even after all this time we've known the main cast, or she could have been kidnapped & raised by some bad people to be a bad person herself, but Nintendo isn't really big on giving the main characters in the Mario franchise consistent back-stories.
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Well most of the new games did give new events and stories about the villains, like Grape and Hellen.
I think the point is NIntendo don't want to go with very concrete storyline as you say, so it's easier to apply a new storyline to a new character instead. I don't think we can expect any further detailed story from Mario, Peach or Bowser.
Then by That logic, since we don't know all that much about Peach's family, it could have been easy to reveal that Peach had a Sister, one that she doesn't talk about because they don't get along, but because of a Japanese anime trope, we never got to see such a thing happen with Wapeach, maybe some other future character could be revealed as Peach's sister.
Peach don't need a sister. One peach is enough. And wapeach is not a character made by Nintendo anyway so it won't work.
Thought it was Warupeach. But awesome design anyway. Not sure why they kept her in the drafts so long. Would've been preferred for her to be a regular instead of like... Paratroopa or some shit. But who knows, Odyssey and Wonder signal a potentially more "let's just f*cking use the actual characters we have sitting on a shelf" era of the series lol.
I just realized she's Nintendo Devilotte, nice
It is Warupeach. I showed that in the video that is what they call her but I stuck to Wapeach as its the popular fan name.
For real, there are possibly tons of unused and scrapped designs in every game project. WaPeach is the only leaked one so there should be much more inside Nintendo's computers.
I also heard another reason she was never used was because Wapeach, Wario, and Waluigi were too similar to the Doronbo Gang from the Yatterman series. Which were even the inspirations for Wapeach and Waluigi. And it didn’t fit Wario to be an underling to someone else.
SO the Wa gang would have acted like the Doronbo Gang in Yatterman
Pretty much and pretty was the main reason why it was axed in the first place as this was getting too similar
Yeah with Wapeach obviously being Doronjo, Boyacky being Waluigi, and Tonzura being Wario.
Nintendo bring her back!
This!
Nintendo doesn't even want you to know about her (The character designer got fired for releasing her concept art)
@@Akanint Shame, but artistic work such as unused characters, don't deserve to be locked in a metaphorical vault, never to be seen by the public. It's not like Nintendo is using her in any games ever made. That character designer's "sacrifice" is appreciated. We've in the past heard of a scrapped "Wapeach", but thanks to that designer leaking her design, we actually know what that "Wapeach" looks like. Nintendo does a horrible job preserving their relics of the past. And I'm saying this as a huge Nintendo fan. As one who prioritizes "truths" over my own "ideals", I cannot deny that negative fact despite my love for Nintendo. Nintendo has stopped with the "virtual console" method of rereleasing old games on their newer hardware, in favor of a subscription format, which means, even if you do have that subscription available, if you cannot connect to Nintendo's servers, you cannot play any of Nintendo's Switch Online service of old games, which sucks, because at least if I were to buy Virtual Console games, Nintendo wouldn't be able to cut me off from them without a connection to an online server. Something you cannot buy now that the 3DS and Wii U shops being shut down. I AM thankful they're going to release a faithful remake of Paper Mario TTYD at all, next year, but that doesn't mean Nintendo gets my "forgiveness" for them refusing to properly preserve their history. There is so much about Nintendo properties we would never see had their content be available to see, if people didn't leak the content online. The "Gigaleak" is a clear example of us getting to see things Nintendo would never let us see and access. Back to the original point of this comment before I rambled off topic for. I like the Wapeach design, she's very cute, and I love cute things. And it's a freaking shame she never got to be used in any game. And with the character artist fired for letting us all see her, makes the odds we'd ever see that design used for her in a game, incredibly low. I don't want to say it's "impossible" to happen, as last time I said that about anything Nintendo related, was TTYD, for doing so much Nintendo would not get away with an E rating, and the TTYD remake got announced LONG after I made that claim, with it being a faithful remake, not tarnished by Nintendo's cowardice of "upsetting anyone", as the trailer still shows the noose in the town's square, which was present in the original version.
fyi, if you don't want to read this whole comment, I don't blame you, I rambled too long here
We have enough peach clones as it is.
@@INFERNO95 We have enough of you running around as it is.
Wario is Warui + Mario, Waluigi is Warui + Luigi.
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Haha thanks! Maybe a reading a phone book should then be my April Fools joke here xP
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Thank you! :)
My theory if it's real is they cut her to give us Daisy, who first was seen in Super Mario Land 1 and not Mario Tennis.
I don't think that is as they already had Daisy in when they wanted to add even more humans to the roster
you did not even mention yatterman.
Miyamoto rejected her because she was inspired by Doronjo, like Wario and Waluigi were from her grunts.
Yeah I learned abotu that part after I had already uplaoded the video. For a while as I was making the video, this one seemed unsourced for a bit and seemed almost theoretical. I haven now found that info of the additional reasons for the rejection. Gonna add that to the update notes
@@TheObsessiveGamer I wonder if they even care about that anymore. It's an old anime that I doubt is still all that relevant.
😲 - Woah, I can't wait to watch the video!
(I enjoy watching your content!)
Thank you! and hope you enjoy this one as well!
Could Nintendo make Wapeach a reality? Introduce her in a Wario Land game and include Waluigi too.
I just imagined that she looks so cute and adorable but she has a voice like Ursula 😂
6:08 Dude, what does it hurt? why does nintendo have to nitpick the smallest things? Its not like the community knowing of wapeach will destroy the entire mario franchise
Well it's probably more an NDA kinda ordeal here. He probably signed one not to disclose developmental information, and he did. Nintendo probably didn't care too much on the idea of people knowing of WaPeach, but may have not liked an NDA being breached
@@TheObsessiveGamerAnd why does it hurt nintendo for people to know developmental info? maybe i understand anti-spoilers, but for old stuff?
@@skeleton819 it doesn't. But that's just how contracts work
@@TheObsessiveGamer why did they need this contract signed? i still don’t see the issue with showing development info
@@skeleton819 that's just how businesses work. Everyone who works on something signs a contract. Non-disclosure agreements are just that
Isn't that just Rosalina in purple and younger
Premieres suck (I also enjoy watching your content)
Thanks! Yeah the main reason I do it is so people know when it is going up at and prepare for it. (also at this point it is kinda expected since alot like the audience interaction)
Wapeach Character Development
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Doronjo (Ytterman)
Angelic Pickles (Rugrats - original series)
Francine (the Simpsons)
littleassassin girl (Titan Maximum)
Miss Muffet (Christmas in Tattertown)
I cracked up on the idea of her being like Angelica Pickles there rofl
I always thought Daisy was Wapeach and I still do because her personality is the opposite of Peach's.
I think at this point they may be more selling her on that idea but recently they seem to have taken that crazier personality she got from Strikers out, so hard to sell that as much
I don't know why they can't leave Daisy alone. Just make her the cool spunky tomboy, enough with the crazy over the top "LOOK AT ME" personality...
@@ninetozero920 I mean that's just her personality since they changed her design back in the game cube days.
@@ninetozero920 I like that crazy over the top personality...but maybe that's just my taste in women leaking there xP
That's like saying Luigi is "Wamario" because he's cowardly while Mario is brave. The point of being a "Wa" isn't opposites. It's being BAD.
5:23 - Where can I find this particular fanart?
I have links in the description to all the artists mentioned in the video. You can find it there
Wait, question: have Wario or Waluigi ever appeared in any "canon" Mario titles? Or, might be better to say, mainline ones, since that concept really doesn't matter much here?
Depends on your definition. If you count the Yoshi Island games as part of the mainland Mario games, then Wario was in the DS game.
But since Mario Land usually counts as mainline, Wario is the villain of the 2nd game
@@TheObsessiveGamer Ah!
Wario has. Waluigi hasn't. The closest he's gotten is a costume in Odyssey.
If you count Super Mario 64 DS as a main game, then yes Wario was playable there.
@@Infindox We weren't talking about playability. We were talking about a general appearance at all.
Daisy first appeared in Super Mario Land on Game Boy, not in Mario Tennis
I want Wapeach to be canon.
Hopefully one day!
Cant wait
Hope you enjoy it!
Is RUclips glitching I can't seem to find my comments in this video. OOF
Must be. Weird. I saw this at least. Try reposting
@@TheObsessiveGamer I can't even type in the name of the website. OOF But again I have to say that we found out from Waluigi's character that another character was cut from the Mario Tennis game. Her name is Princess Potato. Look her up fam
@@NitwitsWorld oh I heard of Potato, but didn't know she was a princess too? Interesting. Will plan to look further. Thanks!
@@TheObsessiveGamer No problem. It's also funny as the creator himself didn't even know what Potato means in other countries like America given we grow Potatos and eat them. So even he was confused on her name
Looks nothing like peach or waluigi and yet everyone is going nuts calling them wapeach lmao. sad...
Nintendo literally called her Wapeach on that image I showed
First Omelette, now WaPeach?! Things are just getting interesting!
Omelette? tell me more :)
www.sonicstadium.org/uploads/monthly_2023_07/2017-mania-eggette1.jpg.e581daddf24851a3ec868a8b5e7573c5.jpg from Sonic Mania
@@TheObsessiveGamerBasically a character created from seeing a sprite of Eggman upside down.
We already have a bad Peach - she is called Daisy
Flipp the "p" from Peach upside down and you got an "d" for Daisy
Haha, maybe Nintendo wants to pass that off nowadays, but they have made her less vulgar nowadays so who knows
Shut the hell up. Stupid joke not even funny.
I'm not found of giving every character a "wa" version, it's not créative. I already find Waluigi anoying because he makes Wario less unique.
Well might be more a Japanese thing. Infact it's not even limited to Mario. Digimon did this too actually by having a Monzaemon and a WaruMonzaemon which is the bad equivalent
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