Upgrading My Planer with a Lux Cut Helical Cutter Head and a Lifty Table
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
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I was having a super bad day with depression, Mr.Dunn helping his planer out brought my spirts up. *thanks man for being awesome.*
I only now noticed that you A: put eyes in the planer in the intro, and B: made them MOVE! the shenaniganrey!
I had to restart twice to make sure I wasn't imagining things
I noticed the eyes but not the movement, so I had to start over! :^)
Whoooooah...I did not see that....funny stuff
Me too
Awesome effect!
"Mahogány" 😂. I just wana let you know i appreciate all these little quirks in all videos!
The long held shot of you pumping yourself up was the best. Thank you.
Your candid humor is greatly appreciated. You always help me crack a smile!
Love that the planer has eyes! 👀
Robert in order to reduce the wobble, try attaching steel cables at the four corners so that they are in tension when the lift is at the height you like. Obviously the cables will sag when the lift is lowered.
I always enjoy the humor of your videos!
BRILLIANT idea with the lift!!
The Powertool equivalent of sleeping on the couch got me. I look forward to watching more videos.
Came here because of the scissor lift, left pleasantly surprised. Thanks
I actually LOLed when you said sitting on the workbench is the powertool equivalent of sleeping on the couch. My coworkers were wondering what was so funny.
Best part is, he's not really wrong. The work bench only holds tools that don't have a specific home yet. They really are just crashing there. :P
I have not tapped on a notification so quick. When there's an Under Dunn video, there are good times ahead
Thank you! I noticed suddenly the tape was removed from the helical cutter but I didn't know how satisfying it was to watch. now I know and knowing is half the battle. G.I Joe, brother...G.I Joe.
5-10 dB less may not sound like a big difference next to the planer. For those outside of the building, it may be more noticeable though. Now you can plane at 2 AM without waking up the whole block.
It also means you can now bring your planer at the next autocross event and still pass the sound check.
10 db equals roughly 2x souldpressure thts why any bit of db difference does a lot
Decibels are logarithmic too, so 2x the decibels is a *square* increase in pressure. Going from. 105 to 98 is approximately a halving in loudness.
You have to remember this man lives in the middle of nowhere so unless he's exceeding 120 decibels in his shop the chances of him waking up anybody is basically not, unless somebody pulls over on the nearby road to take a nap but at that point that's their problem
I'm just imagining how proud your grandfather would probably be of you if he saw what you're doing today. He's quite overjoyed.
Given his personality and mannerisms. I imagine his grandfather would be shaking his head.
I repair Tools, motors, and machinery for a living. Helical cutter heads can cause the motor to burn out on the DW735 planer. That will happen only if you repeatedly try to take too much off at once. Take off less than you would with straight knives
@@TigerCarpenter, have you considered keeping a straight blade planer for quicker rough cuts and the helical for the final few passes? It would be more setup time, though, getting the first planer to the right height and then repeating with the helical.
We recently lumbered a 36" maple, a 36" white ash, and a 32" pecan. After drying, we tried planing with a Rigid (Home Depot) 13" planer with 2 HSS knives ruclips.net/user/postUgkxIzvvTi3_Qc8JnVdYYRJCvuoDC4QjTzeL . This job was clearly too much for that machine. The pecan was particularly difficult, due to heavy mineral deposits, and a sharp pair of HSS knives would be consumed by a mere 3 boards. We were also having lots of problems from chip bruising, due to poor dust collection. The shavings came off like straw and jammed in the 4" hose.We bought the DW735 simply to be able to run carbide blades, which worked brilliantly for the pecan. However, we found it to be a much, MUCH nicer machine. It was far more rigid than the "Rigid" planer, and far more accurate as well. But what I liked most about it was the dust feed. This machine has its own blower, which shreds the "straw" like shavings as they come off the cutting head and helps boost the shavings into the dust collection system. No more clogs! It's also nicely sealed so that the internals stay quite clean. This is just a well tempered machine that's a delight to use. It literally cut the labor in half. Just another example of getting what you pay for.
Wasn't enough needlessly superfluous woods used in the creation of the table for the planer, are you doing alright robert?
You spoil us with all these videos. The ‘Stop shaming OSB’ campaign is alive and well at Matt Estlea’s channel.
Spoil. I sincerely hope you meant spoil
@@aksela6912 Fixed! Thank you. I blame spellcheck.
I feel a little spoiled, but I don't feel soiled.
You are a colossal nerd, I think I love you.
I was going to forget to like this video, but the sight of you slowly raising yourself on the scissor lift reminded me. Thanks for the chuckle.
These projects to make purpose built improvements kind of remind me of my senior year in woodshop.
After doing all the cabinety things you learn, from 8th grade on, I got bored with hutches, dry sinks, grandfather clocks. I tried to drop out of wood shop because my senior year of high school was super easy, because I already had enough credits to graduate. The head shop teacher refused to let me quit. Instead he put me to work building roller supports for the planer ( Bigger than Bob's) a somewhat expensive wooden table extension for the table saw and more stuff. Of course this was in the 80s so...
Love this channel.
I can confirm that this cutter head does in fact take more power to run. For some sort of insane and masochistic reason, I decided to make my own custom redwood shiplap siding which required running a massive amount of board feet through this planer.
The cutterhead worked perfect. The surface finish was great, and I've yet to have to even turn one of the blades. Rather, there may be one at this point, but I've gone through a lot of wood. While doing so, the thing had a tendency to throw a breaker if I got too aggressive with it. Eventually, I ran a dedicated circuit and it still threw.
Oh man...When I got my Rikon 6" jointer... I was in love w/ helical cutters.
robert continues to deliver the wood
I found this channel through his upgrade of his table saw... table? anywho I then proceeded to binge watch his entire backlog of videos... long and short of it. I love the work this man is doing, great fun personality and very interesting to watch :)
the aging wheels bus project from him is my favourite.
I've been mulling over new knives for my DeWalt planer for a week or so and today here's this video. How convenient! ...And I'm happy to give your "sponsor" some business so hopefully you'll keep getting more free shit :)
these videos have so much good energy to them, i could just listen to them even if the topic was about yarn
I have the Dewalt 734 thinking about upgrading the Cuter head I just really don’t have $400 to put towards it right now I wish my RUclips channel is big enough people would give me stuff. Always like watching your videos I like your sense of humor!
Just a thought....you can remove the impeller blower thingy since you have a dust collector hooked to it and it will lower the running amps by a significant amount.
You sir, are a genius! I store my planer/thicknesser (planer/jointer in US parlance) under a shelf and have to hoist it onto a bench to use it, which really, really hurts my back. This motorcycle lift is such a brilliant idea! I've just ordered one from Amazon (UK, so sorry, no cashback for you).
I like this usage of the hydraulic cart. I've been researching tool stands and I've come across a lot of designs for flip-top carts incorporating a planer and sander. I don't like the idea of losing the on-board storage for all of the sander accessories (if it were to flip they'd all fall out). Another issue with the flips tops is the height seems non-optimal for sanding. I've deicide on a 2 tier fixed stand with the sander on the top and planer on the bottom. I'm going to use my harbor freight hydraulic lift cart to get the planer up to working level if it's a pain having it mounted so low. Also the lift cart will be great for being able to move it around. BTW, the lift cart also comes in handy as an outfeed table.
Upgraded my Dewalt with the LUX head and it is simply fantastic. Drasticly reduced frequencies and noise. Finish like sanding to 320grit and I no longer sand!
And they DID! made me smile.
I also have the standard black and yellow planner and want one of these
I bought my planer with a helical head and, after seeing how much better it was, I converted my jointer to have one. The small chips are nice, but, along with the immense lifespan of the inserts, my favorite thing is how much less tearout there is. Helical heads handle figured woods so much better! And I love not having to deal with knives.
Oh, if you ever get an insert(s) that leaves marks, you probably need to clean out the packed sawdust underneath it/them. It doesn't take much.
Thanks for the videos, Robert! The highlight of my day when I see them in my feed!
Indeed you've inspired me - I may be moving and I am now prioritizing a house with a garage or shed large enough to have a decent sized shop. My dad loves woodworking but never had a shop of his own - I think it's time to surprise him. Thanks again for the inspiration!
The helical at 20amps sounds slick. Dewalt planar shows how good it is there. It can pull that amps. Probably needs a 10 gauge cord.
I have always been on the fence about this planer, but that cutting head looks so good.
I have watched this 5 times...and I just now noticed the eyes on the planer move....
it creeped me out for a second....
I had nicked up blades the first day I used that planer. After I installed the Byrd cutter head (great company!) I can support that 526 claim.
Great idea on the jack cart! I might do that except I want to add an homemade in and out feed table. Extra long.
Decibels are logarithmic. A 10 point increase in decibels is a 10x increase in loudness. So the 10 decibel difference in this, while hard to tell apart perhaps, is actually enormous. Over 100, it flashed because that's in the danger range for causing permanent hearing damage (from just one exposure)
2 best upgrades i have done in my shop were helical cutter heads for planer and jointer, the finish is so much better and the planer is about 4x quieter.
Too funny, Great use of space.
IMO, another huge advantage (I did the Shelix) is that not only is it quieter, but the frequency of the sound is lower. More lows + less highs = much less annoying. My neighbor commented that he had noticed...
I installed byrd shelix head in my ridgid planer, and I cannot be happier.
Wow, I just got this planer so I was ready to pull the trigger on this but dadgum if that head doesnt cost about as much as I paid for the whole planer... Gonna have to think on that purchase. I'm very grateful you brought this to my attention though! I had no idea they were a thing.
2:28.. Reminds me of getting a haircut 40 ... um.. 52 years ago.
I thoroughly enjoy your videos. I just used this one to upgrade my dw735 to the helical after 2 screws backed their way out of my old cutter head (guess I forgot to tighten them down) and stripped out the threads and bent the knife holders. after pricing all the parts I would need, for only a $150 more I decided to upgrade. Thanks again for the great videos and helping me walk through installation of my LUXCUT III cutter head.
Speaking as a depressed person, I find I like unnecessarily eating expensive things too... :P
Those faces the Planer makes, hilarious !
I'd really like to see you make a review on your Dewalt planar. I've always wondered what was the best planar to buy and noticed that everybody uses that Dewalt planar in their workshop. Btw that scissor lift to store the planar was a brilliant idea! 👍🏻
AND it comes in blue! Going to match my new bench vice...sweeet.
Question: I saw a little bit of wiggle before you lowered the planer. Is that the stand, or maybe 'cause 4 wheels on concrete? Thanks, and just joined the club.
As a matter of interest, for why (if any reason) did you settle on the Lux Cut vs. the Shelix?
Cause he got it for free!!! They are virtually indistinguishable in cutting. The only difference I have noticed is you might have to wait a significant amount of time for a Byrd head due to production runs.
Personally, I prefer the Lux due to the experience I have had changing cutters on both. The Lux has been significantly easier in my experience.
Your wood shop is really coming together!I see so many people do this upgrade DeWalt should really offer it as an option on that planer.
a $440 upgrade to a $500 planer would probably put most people off the brand, so aftermarket it is. Mind you, they will have to charge more and derate the depth of cut which would make the machine "less favourable on paper"
I used a similar planer on half a truck load of 2x12x120" boards last weekend. Even with foam eye plugs my ears rang for the next few hours. We replaced the flat and wide dust exhaust vent with an adapter and a Jet dust collector. Maybe it's because we mostly plane pine, apple, cherry, cedar, and only occasionally walnut, but we've only nicked two blades in five years.
2:50 you've really come up in the world since you started this video.
I'm going to buy one of those lifts. But for my motorcycles. I should have bought one a long time ago. That is so cool.
I currently have one of those DW735 planers on my Harbor Freight lift table at work. They’re bulky but I like them more than the 2-post models.
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
That bike lift is genius... I bet with a few 2x2s under the corners, so the lift can settle back down on them and take the load off the hinges, will help improve the stability. Simply yank them out and stow them with the stand/planer when not in use. Otherwise, it looks to work pretty well for the purpose you got it for.
@ 1:00 I thought you were about to say “...it’s a “Planer” not a “complainer” so it has no say”
Anyone who does not want to spend money on a scissor lift cart can obtain similar functionality by making a cart with a rotating top with the planer affixed to the top. Rotate the planer upside down to put it under the counter, and rotate it back up after you pull it out.
Be sure to ensure that the pockets that the inserts sit into are METICULOUSLY clean when you reinstall them, any chip or Shmoo in the recess could cause the insert to self destruct
If your planer could speak, would it be a com-planer?
Me thinks that lifty table thing will be getting an upgrade in the future.
Just one of those feelings I get sometimes.
Not sure what Ishin is but people have said I’m into it.
😉
Eye like the I's shenanigans!
Thank you for making this channel
10:32 That is very nice. Looks like wood marble.
The clip of the wide plywood stalling the planer looks like it hit one side of the slightly angled piece rather than just used too much power cutting. Had it hit the side and that made it draw more power to try to rotate the piece to keep going or was it truly just the depth of cut?
Is your wood shop a Conex? I assumed this was in the big shop with the service pit you filled in.
Oooh look at you getting all posh with the new planer head!!!.
But let's be honest here the new header quality is way way better than the straight blades!!!.
I've had the rikon model with the multiple mini rotation blades for the past 18 months and WOW is all I have to say !!!
As always mate 💯% 👍🇬🇧.
Love the video. I have the plainer and am using it to plane 1”x11” wide yellow pine. I can only take a 1/32 cut or the strait blades bog down and over load the planer safety switch. Do you think the helical would help with this?
I had a Shelix in my DW735. It paid for itself not just with convenience, but with actual knives. I had even tried the carbide-edged knives before going that route.
Clearly, DeWalt was using the 735 to sell consumable knives. I would nudge them over, flip around etc. Seemed like I was always in there and it got to the point where I was afraid to put anything questionable through the thing because I knew I'd ruin yet another set of knives.
It's mainly the micro-bevel that is the biggest issue with those blades. I had them resharpened by Vexor and they lasted much longer.
I was recently trying to sort the same situation out in my own workshop. Thanks. 👴🏻🇦🇺
_That's_ what this workshop needs--googly eyes!
Were the screws sufficient over time or did you eventually bolt it down? What length screw did you use? I'm doing this! Lifts are sitting in my garage waiting for me to get off the couch and get it done.
Just found your channel last night. I just so happened to have bought this very same planner 2 weeks ago. The job has kept me busy and I haven't had a chance to use it yet. But since this video has been out going on 6 months now, I was wondering two things. How has that cutter head held up since installing and how well has the stand worked out for you?
Stupid question but can you get better (harder? insert metallurgy something here) straight blades and/or sharpen them before shelling out the $$ for carbide? I have limited woodworking experience but a good chef’s knife and regular honing and sharpening make my life cutting vegetables other than tree a dream
The painfully slow and repetitive lifting while sitting...
It got me. I'm laughing so hard cuz I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. And definitely would do this exact thing.
Do you bolt it down? because it just looked like you used screws. Thanks for the video!
Love this
What Apron do are you wearing ?
"Who knew OSB could look so good?".
Thinks: "Mat Estlea channel, and the OSB Army."
How has the scissor lift held up over the past year or so? A few years ago I wanted to do a project like this but tried, and ultimately failed, to build from scratch. Does the table wobble when you're running boards through it? The scissor lift you link to is currently unavailable, but I do see similar models on Amazon. Let me know.
that lifty table looks like it'll tip if you put some longer boards through it. be careful! Great review.
Tucked away, the plainer looks like a minion.
I installed the Lux III cutters on my DW 735 this summer. In addition to all the benefits you mention the biggest winner for me is no tearout. I use a lot of hard maple and always had to pay close attention to grain direction. Even so grain can run two directions in a board and boom - tearout. Now I just push it through and perfect every time. I really like the stand but wonder about stability with long heavy stock. Do you find much wobble? Another great video.Thanks!
Love these videos
I’m happy for you got yours free but tell us how much they cost for the rest of us who don’t have that free benefit
The more I look at these Planars the more I want a new Router to flatten.
If the wobble is annoying, perhaps there is some way to clamp the top of the cart to the side of your workbench once it's been raised?
Just wondering that if you need to remove all the helical knives before installation, why don't they ship it with the cutters removed in in a separate bag?
Let me start by saying I found your channel a week or so ago by chance and I really appreciate your videos. They’re informative, funny, and fit my work style really well.
You mention the helical cutter head leaving an almost sander smooth surface and that’s much what I had previously expected. I was just about to drop the cash for a Byrd head when I watched Next Level Carpentry’s video on pallet wood and he showed a piece that was planed - presumably on someone else’s 735 - that he described as really scalloped and would require a lot of sanding if you were putting a nice finish on it. That scarred me off and I thought I might stick with the pain of the disposable straight blades.
Have you noticed any of that at all? I thought maybe it was just that planer’s setup but not having hands on experience scared me away from spending $400.
From the video the finish you’re getting sure looks nice. If you don’t get any odd scalloping maybe I’ll just give that Lux head a try.
Thanks! Love the videos.
-Reed
I had a feeling like that was going to be wobbly. The wobbliness could probably be a hassle over time, maybe even dangerous. I hope there're plans to rectify that.
The majority of the wobble actually comes from the even floor it sits on
So is this around 40 inchs tall when under the miter saw? Assuming the other dimensions are basically the size of the planner.
Grove? Could you have meant ridge? Curious because I would think if you chip the blade then there would be less cut leaving a ridge (that's easy to sand) and not a grove that can be very hard to sand out and keep the piece flat and fitting.
I have yet to get a planer, so this is useful to know... I'll probably just get the upgraded version, I don't like the idea of constant maintenance on a tool, haven't we got other things to do? BTW: Have you thought about how you'll fix the wobbly base? I wouldn't like it to wobble when in use, hopefully you'll sort it out and show us on another video.
Wobbly planer table? Future Under Dunn project.
I would love a super sweet cutter head like that but can not get past the price. It costs almost as much as the planer
Adorable!
"...albeit slightly wobbly" ---OK...How wobbly under load with lots of stock to plane?
..especialy when pushing wood through from one side to the other, if it's not getting pulled through cleanly. I would definitely try to figure out a way to add an extended foot to the outfeed side of the base.
@@necrojoe - My thoughts exactly. I think perhaps it is better to either buy a more sturdy device -or- build one!
I thought about that too. I would want it clamped edgewise to one of the other work benches before I felt safe shoving a big plank through.
yes we def need a follow up to that comment. i am ready to order one for my planer but....... how wobbly is it? thx