Really great video but one minor point, you keep using the term voltage and what you should say is AMPs (amperage). A standard household power outlet can deliver about 13 amps at 240 volts, which is ample for most household items, this calculates to about 3000 Watts or 3KW, about what a high-powered kettle would use (and your Eco top kiln) - When you go for a larger kiln you can still use a 240volt household supply for 6KW (~25 amps) and even 10KW (~40 amps) but you’ll need a thicker dedicated wire/cable from the kiln location to the household consumer unit (fuse/breaker box) and often a dedicated breaker/fuse for it. Very similar to how an electric oven/stove/high power shower would be connected to the consumer unit. The thicker wire/cable is to compensate for voltage loss on the wire, and it will generate less heat in the wire as those larger power draws over it while the kiln is running, if you were to pull 40 amps down the cables designed for 13amp outlets there is a good chance the cable would become very hot and melt the wire covering, at best tripping the breaker, at worst catching fire. All this is for standard 240v single phase like found in most homes in Europe and the UK, It’s different for US homes on 110v and homes with 3 phase power, but that’s beyond the scope of this comment.
Standard voltage is 230 V. It's uncommon to have single phase loads with more than 16 A. That means around 3600 W. For bigger loads you usually use three phase power (the plug shown in the video). A single phase load with 25 A is possible but standard plugs won't do it. So either you need to use a three phase plug and only connect one phase which doesn't make sense or you need to hard wire it. So three phase is the way to go for bigger loads. It's still 230 V (400 V phase to phase). When I started pottery I started with a gas kiln I built myself. I then built a much bigger gas kiln myself which I still use. It was way cheaper than buying a kiln. I'm not using any automation which also teaches you a lot compared to fully automated kiln controllers.
@@asdqwe4468 I'm guessing you are in Europe. In the US, and Canada, it is very rare to have 3 phase in home. That is usually for a high electrical draw business. Unless you live real close to where 3 phase is available. Even then it's still expensive to have access to. Most residential homes are going to have 220 (that covers the gamut of 220-240v) single phase. Even those with all electric homes. I'd love to have 3 phase. It's amazing how many larger power tools (lathes, mills, and large saws, etc.) use it. Since they aren't compatible with most home shops or garages, they go for bargain basement prices at auction.
Yay! I was so happy to see this video! Thank you so much taking the time to record it :)! I started pottery during the pandemic (and purchased your bag of utensils to get started about a year ago) and my boyfriend recently bought me a kiln as a gift (so incredibly grateful) because he know how happy I am making ceramics. Havent set it up yet - but we will place it in our shed and I am so excited about my first firing - so looking forward to the upcoming videos.
Awesome video! This definitely helps a lot. I have the opportunity of buying a good state old kiln, but I have to walk into the room to ‘turn up’ the kiln about each hour until it reached the desired temperature because it’s not automated. So I worried about the fumes when I have to walk in for a brief bit, I have no idea to which lengths I should go to avoid breathing in anything at all. The room has a high, rather big window and I wondered if putting that open would be enough to vent it. But a system like this would definitely be even better!
Thanks for this insightful video! I really got into pottery half a year ago (your videos + little guide book helped and inspired me a lot!) and have purchased my first own kiln recently. Still haven't used it yet as I'm unsure of how exactly I need to program my firings. But my shelves definitely have filled up with loads of green ware so I should start soon! I'm looking forward to the next videos on this topic :) Liebe Grüße aus Rheinland-Pfalz!
I'm interested to know if the 50L capacity of your kiln satisfies your business demands. Some of my fellow pottery class students asked the pottery teacher what capacity they should use to set up a small business and she advised at least 80L which seemed rather large (in my limited experience). I've seen other videos made by other YT potters who run small online pottery businesses and they have similar sized kilns to you. They typically make decorative tableware for the Etsy market and seem to get by with similar sized kilns to yourself... Any insight would be useful, thanks.
🌹🌹🌹 Thanks a million and have a question: Is such a kiln sufficient for Glass Work of Art or not? if not is there any 3 phase kiln? if yes how can we make ourselves a 3 phase kiln? I mean the three-phase electric circuit map. Thanks again. 🌺🌺🌺
Thank you very much for your videos which help me learn a lot. Sorry for my English, I'm French, but can you tell me if the pipe that comes out outside can become very hot during high temperature cooking? because I would like to put a pipe to my oven but it would be placed on plexiglass which is in front of my window and I am afraid that it will melt with the heat.. thank you very much for your advice.
Hey! No its not hot. The heat mixes with fresh air when its exiting the kiln so its a little warm to the touch but not hot. It might depend on the pipe you get. I bought mine from a kiln supplier.
I see that you have a smaller kiln. I'm looking for a kiln, I've also seen ones that are the same width (40 cm / 16'' diameter inside) but then also 46 cm / 18'' in height. I wonder, is it better to go for the 38 cm / 15'' height option when you don't have access to power supply, instead of the taller one? will it put significantly less pressure on the power grid of your house? Otherwise I want to buy the medium sized kiln instead.
Thanks for the insight! Any advice between Top-loading (yours) vs Front-loading kilns? Is there a real difference in price or perhaps functionality/practicality?
Choosing a kiln is something people don’t go into as much as they should. I asked a teacher in a studio the other day about their kilns and according to them the production changes based on whether they have experienced people putting them together, so even though he recommended the brand they used he said that the one put together when covid shut down production had alot of problems. So it seems like it’s really important to get educated and know what you’re looking for.
@@mattstevens7601 Oh man, I wish I could remember. It was just something the teacher at my studio mentioned about their kilns, but he said the quality was fine after. If I remember I will leave a reply.
What happens if we fully close the vent pipe around the exit from the kiln? I know the heated fumes goes upwards througj the pipe but woulnt it be better if we close it fully?
Do you even leave the hole on the bottom open during glaze firings? I thought we were supposed to close it above 500 C and even put the plug in the vent. Well I guess it won’t matter too much with the smaller kilns…
yes I leave it open! As I understand, closing the vent is just for helping it reach temperature and doesn’t have an impact on the pottery, so I can’t be bothered 😅
Hi.. Can you make a video about your waste water (with clay) filteration system in Germany. What do you suggest to have so I can begin pottery at home? Thanks
Hi! I’m thinking about getting the Jen ken AF3C 11/9. I’m getting it because it’s small, electric and affordable. Have you ever used an electric kiln like this? I just want to make mugs, bowls and plates nothing fancy. I can’t get a 240v cause of the wiring issue. Any tips would be appreciated.
I’m not sure about kilns in North America… maybe they have ones that work with the lower voltage? It’s definitely worth reaching out to your local ceramic supplier to see what they have available. My bill works out to about 5-7€ per firing, so it just depends on how much you fire it. We rent too ☺️
Yes, I was told it was expensive to run a kiln (by the pottery tutor) and then a more advanced student and a technician from another institute told me it was fairly cheap even during the current energy crisis.
You can find smaller kilns for a couple peices from paragon that run on 110. The paragon 110 kilns are more oriented to the lampworking market but they make a fusing kiln that is 8x8 inches and can have a couple collars to get a larger height. It limits to mugs and bowls (so no large vases) and limited capacity. But for a hobbiest it would work
You can find smaller kilns for a couple peices from paragon that run on 110. The paragon 110 kilns are more oriented to the lampworking market but they make a fusing kiln that is 8x8 inches and can have a couple collars to get a larger height. It limits to mugs and bowls (so no large vases) and limited capacity. But for a hobbiest it would work
Really great video but one minor point, you keep using the term voltage and what you should say is AMPs (amperage). A standard household power outlet can deliver about 13 amps at 240 volts, which is ample for most household items, this calculates to about 3000 Watts or 3KW, about what a high-powered kettle would use (and your Eco top kiln) - When you go for a larger kiln you can still use a 240volt household supply for 6KW (~25 amps) and even 10KW (~40 amps) but you’ll need a thicker dedicated wire/cable from the kiln location to the household consumer unit (fuse/breaker box) and often a dedicated breaker/fuse for it. Very similar to how an electric oven/stove/high power shower would be connected to the consumer unit. The thicker wire/cable is to compensate for voltage loss on the wire, and it will generate less heat in the wire as those larger power draws over it while the kiln is running, if you were to pull 40 amps down the cables designed for 13amp outlets there is a good chance the cable would become very hot and melt the wire covering, at best tripping the breaker, at worst catching fire. All this is for standard 240v single phase like found in most homes in Europe and the UK, It’s different for US homes on 110v and homes with 3 phase power, but that’s beyond the scope of this comment.
Thank you for the correction! I am so beyond my depth talking about electricity :)
Thats good stuff man ❤
Standard voltage is 230 V. It's uncommon to have single phase loads with more than 16 A. That means around 3600 W. For bigger loads you usually use three phase power (the plug shown in the video). A single phase load with 25 A is possible but standard plugs won't do it. So either you need to use a three phase plug and only connect one phase which doesn't make sense or you need to hard wire it. So three phase is the way to go for bigger loads. It's still 230 V (400 V phase to phase).
When I started pottery I started with a gas kiln I built myself. I then built a much bigger gas kiln myself which I still use. It was way cheaper than buying a kiln. I'm not using any automation which also teaches you a lot compared to fully automated kiln controllers.
@@PotterytothePeople could you possibly tell me how to program this kiln controller:
PID-RS Ramp/Soak Controller
@@asdqwe4468
I'm guessing you are in Europe. In the US, and Canada, it is very rare to have 3 phase in home. That is usually for a high electrical draw business. Unless you live real close to where 3 phase is available. Even then it's still expensive to have access to.
Most residential homes are going to have 220 (that covers the gamut of 220-240v) single phase. Even those with all electric homes.
I'd love to have 3 phase. It's amazing how many larger power tools (lathes, mills, and large saws, etc.) use it. Since they aren't compatible with most home shops or garages, they go for bargain basement prices at auction.
I love it how you don't care about your hair looking mess but still you look so adorable and explained everything perfectly 💕
Thank you for posting this! i found your kiln ventilation portion very helpful ❤
Yay! I was so happy to see this video! Thank you so much taking the time to record it :)! I started pottery during the pandemic (and purchased your bag of utensils to get started about a year ago) and my boyfriend recently bought me a kiln as a gift (so incredibly grateful) because he know how happy I am making ceramics. Havent set it up yet - but we will place it in our shed and I am so excited about my first firing - so looking forward to the upcoming videos.
so exciting!! new kilns are the best 🙌 definitely watch the next videos but feel free to reach out if you have any additional questions ☺️
Would love to know how much an electric kiln effects your electric bill! I would LOVE to get a wheel and a kiln - I'm so jealous lol ❤ happy for you
I've heard that they run about $8 per firing. But I'm sure different sizes differ.
Awesome video! This definitely helps a lot.
I have the opportunity of buying a good state old kiln, but I have to walk into the room to ‘turn up’ the kiln about each hour until it reached the desired temperature because it’s not automated. So I worried about the fumes when I have to walk in for a brief bit, I have no idea to which lengths I should go to avoid breathing in anything at all.
The room has a high, rather big window and I wondered if putting that open would be enough to vent it. But a system like this would definitely be even better!
Thanks for this insightful video! I really got into pottery half a year ago (your videos + little guide book helped and inspired me a lot!) and have purchased my first own kiln recently. Still haven't used it yet as I'm unsure of how exactly I need to program my firings. But my shelves definitely have filled up with loads of green ware so I should start soon! I'm looking forward to the next videos on this topic :) Liebe Grüße aus Rheinland-Pfalz!
great! then these next videos are definitely for you! New kilns are so exciting 🥰 Ganz liebe Grüße ❤️
Thank you so much for making these videos!! They've been so helpful throughout my ceramics journey 💖 I can't wait to learn more about firing!
I’m glad you’re enjoying them! 🥰
This was very clearly explained, and you mentioned a few things I had not yet thought of! Thank you so much! New subscriber now! 😊
I'm interested to know if the 50L capacity of your kiln satisfies your business demands. Some of my fellow pottery class students asked the pottery teacher what capacity they should use to set up a small business and she advised at least 80L which seemed rather large (in my limited experience). I've seen other videos made by other YT potters who run small online pottery businesses and they have similar sized kilns to you. They typically make decorative tableware for the Etsy market and seem to get by with similar sized kilns to yourself... Any insight would be useful, thanks.
Your videos are so helpful and full of information!
For the ventilation pipes, what is their temperature rating? Do I need to get a pipe that goes up to 1300 degrees or will 110/250 C be sufficient?
I don’t do pottery but I love watching these videos anyway
Super helpful, thanks!
🌹🌹🌹 Thanks a million and have a question: Is such a kiln sufficient for Glass Work of Art or not? if not is there any 3 phase kiln? if yes how can we make ourselves a 3 phase kiln? I mean the three-phase electric circuit map. Thanks again. 🌺🌺🌺
We got our Olympic kiln today!
Very useful video. Thank you
Thank you very much for your videos which help me learn a lot. Sorry for my English, I'm French, but can you tell me if the pipe that comes out outside can become very hot during high temperature cooking? because I would like to put a pipe to my oven but it would be placed on plexiglass which is in front of my window and I am afraid that it will melt with the heat.. thank you very much for your advice.
Hey! No its not hot. The heat mixes with fresh air when its exiting the kiln so its a little warm to the touch but not hot. It might depend on the pipe you get. I bought mine from a kiln supplier.
@@PotterytothePeople Oki super! thank you very much, c'est gentil so I'm going to hurry up and buy this pipe. :)
Thank you for the video ❤ can I put it outside of my home ? Like in front of the garage ?
I see that you have a smaller kiln. I'm looking for a kiln, I've also seen ones that are the same width (40 cm / 16'' diameter inside) but then also 46 cm / 18'' in height. I wonder, is it better to go for the 38 cm / 15'' height option when you don't have access to power supply, instead of the taller one? will it put significantly less pressure on the power grid of your house? Otherwise I want to buy the medium sized kiln instead.
Thanks for the insight! Any advice between Top-loading (yours) vs Front-loading kilns? Is there a real difference in price or perhaps functionality/practicality?
Choosing a kiln is something people don’t go into as much as they should. I asked a teacher in a studio the other day about their kilns and according to them the production changes based on whether they have experienced people putting them together, so even though he recommended the brand they used he said that the one put together when covid shut down production had alot of problems. So it seems like it’s really important to get educated and know what you’re looking for.
totally! its a good idea because its hopefully a tool that will serve you well for a long time ☺️
Which brand quality went down after Covid?
@@mattstevens7601 Oh man, I wish I could remember. It was just something the teacher at my studio mentioned about their kilns, but he said the quality was fine after. If I remember I will leave a reply.
Where can I get info on the physics of ventillation? Mine does not seem to work.
Give us the story of needing the electrician!!
What happens if we fully close the vent pipe around the exit from the kiln? I know the heated fumes goes upwards througj the pipe but woulnt it be better if we close it fully?
Do you use this system in the winter too? Leaving a window open in the winter,-20 degrees is okay?
Do you even leave the hole on the bottom open during glaze firings? I thought we were supposed to close it above 500 C and even put the plug in the vent. Well I guess it won’t matter too much with the smaller kilns…
yes I leave it open! As I understand, closing the vent is just for helping it reach temperature and doesn’t have an impact on the pottery, so I can’t be bothered 😅
Thank you for that helpful video!! Do you know from which year your kiln is? 😄
Hi!! Would a kiln make a garage very hot? If so, is there a way to minimize the heat? Thanks!!
Excellent - thank you
What is the white piece between your plug and the wall socket?
Hi.. Can you make a video about your waste water (with clay) filteration system in Germany. What do you suggest to have so I can begin pottery at home? Thanks
It’s on my list! I will make that video when I get back to Germany in mid-October :)
What do you recommend for setting up a kiln in a small backyard situtation?
Hi! I’m thinking about getting the Jen ken AF3C 11/9. I’m getting it because it’s small, electric and affordable. Have you ever used an electric kiln like this? I just want to make mugs, bowls and plates nothing fancy. I can’t get a 240v cause of the wiring issue. Any tips would be appreciated.
Thank you so much for this video! New subscriber here! Can I ask you if the exhaust tube gets hot during the firing? Thanks!! :)
Welcome to the family! It doesn't get very hot at all. I think it's because it mixes with the cool air before entering the exhaust.
How many amps is that kiln please
Can I use my oven?
Do you know if cone art kiln is good
How much max kilograms I can put in Kiln with 310L ?
Thank you for this! So is there no suction coming from the vent tubes themselves?
nope! it happens automatically. ✨physics✨
Great information. Could you be so kind to help me purchase 2nd hand kiln 50L
Oh no 220 :( I’m in Canada and we rent , I guess the voltage here is not enough for a small kiln and the bill will be huge …
I’m not sure about kilns in North America… maybe they have ones that work with the lower voltage? It’s definitely worth reaching out to your local ceramic supplier to see what they have available. My bill works out to about 5-7€ per firing, so it just depends on how much you fire it. We rent too ☺️
@@PotterytothePeople "My bill works out to about 5-7€ per firing" Oh really? That is not too bad actually..
Yes, I was told it was expensive to run a kiln (by the pottery tutor) and then a more advanced student and a technician from another institute told me it was fairly cheap even during the current energy crisis.
You can find smaller kilns for a couple peices from paragon that run on 110.
The paragon 110 kilns are more oriented to the lampworking market but they make a fusing kiln that is 8x8 inches and can have a couple collars to get a larger height.
It limits to mugs and bowls (so no large vases) and limited capacity.
But for a hobbiest it would work
You can find smaller kilns for a couple peices from paragon that run on 110.
The paragon 110 kilns are more oriented to the lampworking market but they make a fusing kiln that is 8x8 inches and can have a couple collars to get a larger height.
It limits to mugs and bowls (so no large vases) and limited capacity.
But for a hobbiest it would work