@@TheDAWinz I orginaly had a 600i explorer, melted it and got the 660i touring. Flew it for the previous six months prior to this years IAE and melted it to purchase the Phoenix. And I love it!
@@RazSkull673 Yes, I also obtained an in game 890J that doesn't do anything but collect dust in my in game hanger. Spent 32+ million on it, made one trip from NB to Hex and back, used more than 75 percent of it fuel. If I could I'd give it away, but ships bought with auec's can't be sold in any manner.
She's an okay ship, but I think she 'feels' wrong for what she is. She is big, but she's clearly a medium ship with medium parts and medium capacity for her various roles, but she flies like some of the larger ships and corvettes. I think they need to make her fly a little more like a freelancer, get some of that millenium falcon in her that she was meant to have. Other than that? She's great, but a jacuzzi is not where you should store sensitive equipment like shield generators, put them in the corridor with the other modules. And she should probably lose the hot tub for an executive bathroom. Cos she doesn't feel luxury, she feels 'airforce 1'.
Spot on. Some small redesign for size 3 turrets would make the VIP/crew feel a little safer too haha, after all what large ship has size 2 turrets? (corsair? sshhh!)
Excellent review Farrister, I truly enjoy the format of your reviews and it’s refreshing to see a novel approach from a fellow citizen and not just a “RUclipsr”.
I love the fact it has 4 extra beds. I just hope they all will be usable. It would make it a very good "base" ship for a small org. I can see my self using this as a combined base/explorer/multiuse ship for a small org with up to 10 members. A couple of fighters for escort and you could take any kind of missions, and it could also bee used as a "meeting room" for the org. I can see it crewed with pilot, 2x gunner, snub fighter and 4 "grunts" with access to a couple of dragon fly's in the cargo compartment. Add another two members piloting their own escort crafts like a 325A and a Titan and you have a small do everything squad that is ready for any mission. This is the kind of role I can see it prevailing in, but the lack of a medical bed is limiting. That would be a thing to set it apart from the 600i or the MSR. As is, most people will probably dish out the extra credits for a Carrack... _ED_
Personally, I think a Caterpillar is a better option for a small org's hub vessel. The cat is modular so it could be fitted out with medical, repair and salvage all simultaneously. Also the cockpit detaches and is an independent vessel with qt and beds. This means you could park your main assortment of 3 customized modules, crew quarters, scanning room, data banks and engineering behind as a miniature station complete with shields while you take the detachable ship where you please. The left behind section even holds the turrets so it could defend itself if the cockpit wasn't attached and it was unable to flee a threat. Thoughts?
@@comradecharles4679 I agree. The Cat will be a perfect small crew base once it's functionality is complete. Currently though it's not worth anything except as a trader, and I was thinking of the currently available game. If we look at the "functionally complete" game though, I actually think I would prefer the MISC Endavor. But that is not really comparable as it is in a different price range. It is however my personal goal to get one to use as a base of operations on my "legal" account. A Cat could fit well on my other account... ;)
The cargo ramp bouncing at the end, so graceful in your quick transition 😂 just have to say I love your content! I just discovered SC last week and am already addicted! Thank you for your reviews on all the ships I’ve seen them all! This is def and end game ship that I hope to get someday! I have the 100i and 315p so far as my starters 🙏 there is something about traveling through space in luxury! 😊
@@Farrister yeah, I saw the time stamp on most so I didn’t comment until now, but your reviews are top notch! Anytime I thought of a ship to look up I just typed Farrister at the end lol. Thanks again! 🙏 looks like their are a lot in concept atm!
Great review! The Phoenix is my favorite of the Constellation series, and I think it is still one of the best looking ships in the game. However, that being said, I finally got rid of mine, and traded up for a Carrack. I feel for what I wanted the ship to do, the Carrack exceeds it's performance in every regard. Hopefully I will be able to reacquire a Phoenix later, but for now, I cannot justify the cost of the ship.
@@Farrister Yes, Sir! The only "negative," when comparing the Carrack and the Constellation, is the sheer size of the Carrack. But that is offset to a high degree by the gameplay options provided by the Carrack. Appreciate the response, and keep up the great work, Sir!
I have a lot of experience flying the phoenix, a few things not mentioned: the stock omnisky's can be overclocked indefinitely for added DPS. Only the top 2 pilot guns can be set to s5's, the lower 2 are capped as gimballed s4's. My favorite feature of the phoenix would be it's shielded cargo meaning it cannot be scanned. I run a lot of drugs in this beautiful ship and it's the safest option when it comes to interdictions. Remember though this game changes evolves constantly so this information is as of 3.12
And two year later still no reason for hope considering 1) Not a word on future plans for finishing the interior fancification. (There are lots of great ideas for giving it the wow effect it really needs.) 2) On the other hand the full-fancy 600i even getting a full internal rework now while the Phoenix is still untouched and untalked about. 3) Extra-offenses like ripping several paint appeal features off the very expensive-exclusive Phoenix to give them exclusively to the Emerald. (While marketing tries to describe it as genius to combine a VIP lounge with a freighter style AND at the same time hinting that the RSI CEO owns the only fully gold-trimmed Phoenix. - You couldn't construct a better PR nightmare if you tried.) In a way that makes it the flagship of the development project. And I have $10 in store credit bound in a CCU to a C2 and wish I didn't, also because my wallet is thoroughly closed now.
So I’ve owned all of the Connie’s not to mention it was my first upgrade. I have a lot of love for the Connie and just got the phoenix so I’m quite happy since it gives that living on the ship vibe
I prefer the Phoenix over the 600i for a few reasons. First of all it's one of my favorites, even over the Carrick, due to the windows. This ship has great visibility from the cockpit and for passengers. The other problem with the 600i is that there is just too much space which makes it kind of ugly inside imo. My main complaint about the Phoenix is that there is no restroom in the luxury area, which is a pretty minor complaint when all is said and done. The fact that it comes with a rover makes it very cool for taking friends on a tour of the game. I do think it needs some in-game upgrades however.
I probably flip further towards the 600i, but it is more expensive, and that's the nice thing about SC - we all have different tastes, which makes for interesting variety in the 'Verse
I'm planning to get one. There is just Something I like about the Connie shape. But as an owner of MSR, Carrack and Corsair, the Aquila and Andromeda would just be garage decoration. They don't surpass any of those other ships. So if I'm going to have one as garage decoration. We'll go for the pretty one.
@@Farrister so. I have a list, what I call my Day 1 fleet. Which is all the ships I intend to have bought with cash by day 1 release. And while this list may grow with new concepts, it's a good list of my career path, and distractions. That is to say, I'm going to start with the MSR, until I've accumulated enough money to fill the Carrack, then use it until I earn enough to fill the BMM. Then keep earning into higher value commodities, and finally have money to start buying ships. But I expect that to take a pretty long time. During which I can't afford to to buy a 350R or a Khartu-Al, or a Phoenix. So those are "distractions" which I want to own before launch. So, I DO like the 600i Touring. And I'll probably get one in game. I might even add it to the Day 1 list if development takes long enough. But it is beautiful on the inside. Just plain on the outside. I like it's loadout. And the master bedroom and bridge. The 890 is definitely my in-game goal.
For now, you have to buy in-game with aUEC. They tend to put it up for limited sale if you want to pay (quite a lot) of real money - usually around November and May.
@@Farrister well every time I check in on discord there's nobody there in voice chat, but I was told people are playing new world and waiting out the upcoming 3.15 wipe.
@@Farrister For me the series is the perfect mix of freighter and gunship. I'm looking forward to the Taurus. This means that you can not only do all bounties quickly but also fly freight routes 😇
To me this ship is beautiful and probably the best looking among the medium large ship in game. Of all the variants the Phoenix is the one I like the less because it seems like a "Luxuryfied old truck", but I still appreciate the effort: it is just that the forward section does not ties well with the rear passenger area. This being said, the Conny is still one of my preferred ships, because I feel it handles right. I've got an MSR to test for a month and I think it's just gimmicky and silly with al the lost space among the maze corridors, the one way entrance through a huge ramp and the unbelievable light fighter handling for a ship that weights probably more then a Conny. With some added blade servers on the rear of the cockpit (where there's plenty of space) The Aquila would straight out be a better MSR. The Phoenix and her sisters are IMO what a large ship for a small crew should look like, with clearly defined sections: Cabin, living space and cargo, and plenty of exits in case something goes wrong, and in this case the phoenix is probably the less successful of the class.
I absolutely love the look and feel of the MSR, but agree about those tunnels underneath. On day 1 I explored them. However many months on, I've never been in them since xD
According to multiple websites MSR has more than 3X the mass of a constellation. Actually equal to that of a 600i or a Caterpillar. And every bit of that wasted space would not be enough to contain its supposed fuel stores.
For the gold standard. My friends and I were talking about the Phoenix, and that it should have the Taurus hull length, and could fit a tier 3 (the worst one) med bay in with extra space.
A bit late to the comment party but for me the snub is what makes this a no brainer for me amongst the connies. I have tried them all but the constant hassle of having to claim the Archimedes and swap snubs is what finally made me get it and haven't looked back since. 😅 It's just so superior to the Merlin. I get that this is probably not the main reason why people are drawn to this ship, but as a mainly solo player I feel that the connie offers a great soloship with medium ability to do basically all gameloops currently in the game and it's still viable with a small inpromtu crew. Love your reviews and keep on rewatching them when I feel the meltoholic in me wanting to swap ships.
@Farrister yeah I did that for quite some time but in the end it just became to daunting of a task. 😅 I just wish it was possible to do in the vehicle manager.
wow, since then the connie line has been buffed abit. Tho still waiting on that fated gold standard pass. As a current phoenix owner I thoroughly enjoy it in my fleet. tho the table and jacuzzi no longer function and the Archimedes docking works only some of the time. I still enjoy the snub upgrade(vs the andromeda merlin) and the additional rover is nice as more ground missions and sinkhole cave missions come online. I actually do recommend the phoenix over the 600i touring as it gives you a lower cost of entry into a bigger luxury ship, provides value for money with a snub and rover in one package, and manages to provide luxury without sacrificing the cargo bay unlike the 600i touring - **potential owners should consider that if it's gonna be your only ship! **** . It's plainly a Nicer, less missile armed andromeda, yes. But that was already a great ship and as a package the phoenix opens up a lot of gameplay, and RP. it's only real competitor in this space is it's variants and the corsair, But I intend to own the corsair also ;) P.S Actual luxury is - ZERO COMPROMISE. adding to my stance on the 600i touring, losing a vehicle bay is a compromise and for such a grand ship I'd like my vehicle to come with me and be at my beck and call. even the 400i understood this.
Current owners like myself live in hope of the various bugs getting fixed hopefully in the near future. As its also possibly for sale in show , new owners may become disappointed over issues. On the positive side its such a nice private ship to tour off and relax in , out there in space. ( I wish to be alone) . But many beds are not useable and other stuff are non functional . But still like it , it has character .
Are there any ships you can reccomend for mainly combat? A larger ship though, not a small fighter. I bought this and although it may not be the best I still really like it, and anyway, I can always save up and get another.
Might need to revisit this one Fer. She has 100,000 shields now. 2 size 3 turrets. 2 size 5 and 2 size 4 pilot hardpoints. I think 28 Missles? So basically a gunship now.
Know this video is old these days but something of note that makes the Phoenix very good now (3.19) that the Lynx is out. The Phoenix's cargo bay is much wider than the other connies, the Ursa rover was fine in them because you could get out the back, with the Lynx there is only the side entry so driving it into the other connies can make getting out difficult compared to the Phoenix.
I've tested the 890J, the 600i and the Phoenix in game pror to purchasing in real cash the one I wanted. Flew each for 6 hours a day and six days. I did the same exact type of mission for each. After I was done, though I had to wait till the aniversay sale, the Phoenix. The one and only thng I dislike, is the struts which do block a large degree of visability. The one thing I did like about the other two, was the total visability. But one can't have everything one wants. So I'm good!
@@Farrister I've upgraded all the cores to "A" graded steath mods. And do package and drug running missions to Grim Hex. In the 315P. Though I know the customizations don't actually do anything, when I'm role playing as I would in real life, want to stop on occasion, look at the view available, listen to some music, and have a cup of coffee and a warmed up donute from my microwave. When one is young, vs old as I am. One doesn't care about the comfort nearly as much. Though I can afford any ship I wish, I only choose the one that offer though in my imagineation, comfort. I've invested actual cash and obtained the 315P, the Pheonix because of the comfort level they offer. I avoid pew pew as much as possible thus all my loadouts have fully "A" graded stealth mods. And run away if and when I'm ever interdicted. If and when I ever getting around to utilizing my Warthog and throttle as I do in ED. Perhaps I'll get more involved in pew pew, but until then. I enjoy doing missions which takes me to numerious beautiful locations and want to enjoy them in comfort. I heard there's a chance of a 400 or 500i which will be more like normal ships their size in regards to fuel and such compared to the 600 or 890J. Which fuel compsumtion and speed SUCKS.
I have a LTI Phoenix... Even considering how bugged the ship is currently, I'd never melt or CCU mine. Right now, mine is gathering dust as I never use it due to it's bugs. However, I'm really waiting for the CIG team to give it some love and then, I'll take mine out of the hangar.
Despite its many flaws, there is something very appealing about the constellation. I have a Loaner Aquila right now, but eventually it becomes a Corsair. So I just might have to get a Connie, to have in my Harem, I mean my hangar. But the Taurus does not "do it" for me. And I'm not sure I want to pay the price tag for a 600i. So I've been thinking of a Phoenix, covers my luxury ship, and desire for a Connie.
Honestly I would be tempted to stick with the Aquila or go for the Andromeda. Otherwise hold out for a 600i upgrade, based on the state of things at the moment
@@Farrister well, there is definitely a good case for The Andromeda. Almost $100 less than the Aquila. And it has that extra turret. And I do like the 600i Touring. But I have a "day 1 target fleet" and none of these ships are on that list. They are all sort of "extra credit" or "wish list" anyways. But Target fleet should be reached by the end of next year. So i actually give it consideration after that. And it will probably go like this: unmelt spare 2018 exploration pack. Terrpin - > Andromeda. Andromeda - > Phoenix. Phoenix - > Touring. Provided those CCUs even exist. Which I think they don't.
I really dislike the constelation series in general, but the luxury aspect, still decent cargo, and the snub for racing/exploring make the Phoenix interesting. Personally, I would like the 400i with the grav gen moved somewhere else, the hatchet nose changed to regular landing gear, and the "garage" replaced with a P72 dock. But I expect that will never happen. The real question is, can docking a Kruger with a Connie allow you to refuel and/or repair the Kruger. The answer to that will effect whether I get the Phoenix or not.
The big down side for me on the Connie was the engines being blown off in combat. The massive shield holes at the rear over the engine being the worse bug. I do like the Connis. and it is a Iconic RSI ship that needs a much needed refit and refresh
But why only one bathroom? What if the fish is served for dinner so people would have to fight for the single toilet? I hope they add some bathrooms in the suites for luxury passengers. Nothing says quality travel quite like walking into the crew area to use their tiny toilet with shower on top of it.
Star Citizen shared a great screenshot on Twitter this week, I think it was from the Phoenix, with somebody sat at the chair and MicroTech shown out of the window!
The archimedes is a great race ship with no way to reach race tracks due to lack of qt drive. Phoenix solves this problem with a guaranteed berth that has limited chance of exploding compared with stashing one inside a 600 or running insurance claims at every planet.
I love this ship, and fell for it the first time I toured it at the space port. Towards the end of the video, I was surprised to see the cargo hold, having been on this ship several times I've never found it. Where is the lift? I do wish the outside was as sleek as the inside though, love the exterior of the 600i but too big for a single or couple to use. And I much prefer the interior decor of the phoenix. Love all your reviews.
If you head to the back of the 'guest' section, just before you get to the main bedroom/hot tub, then look at the wooden floor, you can see the hidden switch :)
@@Farrister yep, I thought that was the main hold area where you can store a vehicle, I noticed you left the smaller hold area via a lift, is this the same lift and I'm blind? Lol. Thanks. 8.42- 8.52 on the vid.
I think this may be one of the only luxury ships I like. It still has some resemblance of a cargo and more messy ship with the main area being luxurious.
If I could only have one ship I'd consider the Phoenix it's a good all around with class! I have multiple ships that are good at different tasks so no need for one in my fleet. Until VIP transport by then I'll have a 600i.
I'm not sure the 600i counts as "more unique" given that it is the more straightforward purchase, I'm betting there are a lot more 600i's out there than Phoenixes. While the 600i might be better value for money, and perhaps even better overall, I think the Phoenix is likely more unique.
I have had both the Phoenix and the 600i and honestly, the only reason the Phoenix is not my daily driver anymore is the shield holes that makes it go boom in a few hits by even a Prospector in certain angles. I also wanted bigger and bigger ships so CCUed it to the 600i and melted for a 890 Jump. Compared to other bigger luxury ships, the Phoenix feels better than the others. It might be the complete package with snub and rover, it might be the iconic exterior and cockpit design, it might be the all around windows in the passenger section making it feek like a proper touring ship. I really like its view from the passenger module, without a doubt the best of any ship in SC, even in combat where you can see the missiles flying. I will definitely unmelt it when we get the next token. It might be way smaller and less luxurious than my current 890J, but it used to be my first dream ship and it still has something special. In the end, it's not about checking some utility boxes, it's about feeling right at home in your ship, and the Phoenix definitely does just that, even with its lack of amenities compared to the 600i or even 890J.
@@Farrister Not mentioning, it will be far less expensive to own and operate than Origin luxury ships, even if I love my 890 it will surely stay in the hangar because of fuel/crew costs
@@PetStarlings yes, but not infinitely - components have set sizes, so you can replace them, but only with components of the same size category. Erkul.games is a great website for comparinf
@@PetStarlings Yes, you can upgrade your components, but as Farrister said, every ship component has a size and you can only replace them with the same size. That being said, some upgraded components are nearly twice as good than the stock loadout, depending on the ship. You can choose between 5 component classes for each ship: Civilian, Competition, Industrial, Military and Stealth, depending on what you are looking for. Basically, upgraded power plant and coolers let you use your ship functions longer without overheating, upgraded weapons do more damage, upgraded shields can take more damage and/or recharge faster, upgraded Quantum Drive can be more fuel efficient and slower or faster but more fuel hungry... Higher class components tend to have more HP (unless they are in the stealth class), so there is also that. Also, if your ship comes with gimballed weapons, you can equip fixed weapons one size bigger instead, but you will lose aim assist. This is recommended on nimble fighters, not so much on bigger ships as it's harder to hit targets. All of this is already in the current iteration of Star Citizen, so you don't need to wait a later date to improve your ship. Actually, an upgraded starter Aurora or Mustang can be a very effective fighter against small targets, you can add 2 additionnal size 1 guns right out of the box and upgrade the ones already installed, plus shields and plant, all with ingame money :) The only thing is that for now, there is no description of the relative effectiveness of components in the PU, so you will have to rely on external websites to know what components to buy to improve your ships until we get a proper UI for that.
One of my issues with this ship (that Ive never owned, only toured a few times) is that the master bunk area, with the double bed... HAS A WINDOW INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE SHIP. I do not want people watching me sleep x_x
The Connie Phoenix is a luxury NPC transporter, you get contracts to transport VIPS instead of cargo, it would be compared to the Genesis Starliner. The 600i is a nicer and faster ship but its for touring and exploration. I am not sure how much i am going to transport NPC's, i just like the interior more then the 600i.
Get rid of the hot tub and put in either two smaller bathrooms or one bigger one. I see this being almost a family tourer with a skeleton crew up front to pilot ect. Being that most families share a bathroom at home this isn't a major problem but even two smaller shower rooms would be a major benefit over the passengers having a tiny cubby up front to do their business in. Major oversight from rsi on an otherwise awesome looking ship.
Puhh, whats better now? the constalation or the 600I?? the Constalation is like a flying House! Beautiful interior! The 600I more like a hotel! Its really hard to say, which I like more!
@@Farrister Yeah, if I buy a more costly ship, that more wouldn't bite. But to consinder which one fits more to me, I have to say, that I really tend more to the Constalation. Its not so big, well flyable with one person and the interior is really nice! Its like a flying House. Not a caravan anymore. The style is pretty neat. I really like the nice sitting area, where you have a look out. The living room with bar and a pool! Then the nice bedroom. Very Beautiful i must say, whyle the 600I is too much rooms, and sometimes too empty in its design. May be, the are overworking it one day.
you missed something. I just found out at the expo. Pheonix is a luxury ship, right? It has seats and bdrooms and main bedroom for guests, right? Also a bar. So where do the luxurious guest pee? in the gammy crew toilet/shower-combo room! there are no guest toilets! Nothing! Thats not luxury lol. Or perhaps the whirlpool...'disposes'...of bodily wastes?.... Just take the Andromeda. or a shower, whatever.. XD
@@Farrister It would have been the perfect party cruiser, not as big as the 600i but it's got a bar, a whirlpool, seats and tables... just tell your kidneys to slow down, I guess.
I just want a connie with a crew quarters more like the Corsair's(with the bedrooms and all) without sacrificing my cargo bay, and some front landing gear ffs
@@Farrister I have one. So I would trade my second one for a Phoenix (CCU, not actual ships). I have a mole $315 to BMM $450. But I like the Phoenix because it is pretty and it is supposed to be multirole and tough able to take on multiple single sit fighters.
@@Farrister they obviously did not knownwhat to do with it. The design language needs unification throught the ship. Instead of it feeling like a luxury ship throughout we have what feels like entirely different compartments of entirely different ships slapped together. The crew compartment feels like walking through the kitchen of a fancy restaurant.
One of the things that bugs me about the Phoenix... 4 crew, luxury accommodations including 3 private cabins, a hot tub, and a bar for guests.... and EVERYBODY shares the same Porta-John
The dual co-pilot seats make absolutely no-sense. The only way that works, if they are weapons officer stations. Remote turrets and rockets and defensive counter measures deployment. Lack of posterior weapons station, lack of manuverability leaves it an easy kill. get on it's tail and blast away. Now, if you put some of those missiles to 360 degree coverage then you may be viable at one of those before mentioned co-pilot stations. There's just so much potential with this craft.
I had a Phoenix for about a week. its cool, but very disjointed. It just did not evoke the feeling of space ship to me. most of the luxury ships in star citizen aren't really all that luxurious, ironically the Phoenix is the only luxury ship that has reasonable windows. I ended up switching back to an andromeda... which eventually became a Carrack.
@@Farrister no, kinda for the same reason the Phoenix. The "luxury" ships in star citizen are a wacky funhouse mirror kind of luxury. But more importantly, I like my spaceships feeling like spaceships. There is functionality from the Andromeda I miss, pilot controled weapons, the cargo lift for vehicles (as buggy and bouncy as it was) come to mind. But the carrack really is everything constellation owners want their constellation to be.
Be better if you werent jerking the camera around every half second during the tour portion of the video, please make these smoother, it's hard to watch when you're the passenger while the driver goes all over the road
@@Farrister I have some ideas if anyone involved with the ship ever wants to listen. The Phoenix Star Constellation has a star called Ankaa...which is the Bightest Star...it really needs to represent its name to give honor to the Phoenix Spirit/Concept. Since its a bird that never touched the ground, its a great idea for a ship. I only am heavy into this for being Phoenix in a virtual world for years and also a virtual world builder.
the worst part about this compared to 600i, is that you can ccu to 600i and have that sweet lifetime, but phoenix? nope. exept you take some of the outrageous overpriced megapacks.
Unironically the best Connie.
But worth the price gap?
@@Farrister Probably not. I'd get it if it was on a discount or had the credits in game but then again I have a 600i to use instead.
@@TheDAWinz I orginaly had a 600i explorer, melted it and got the 660i touring. Flew it for the previous six months prior to this years IAE and melted it to purchase the Phoenix. And I love it!
@@wmgthilgen really? You left the 600i series for the Phoenix? Cool!
@@RazSkull673 Yes, I also obtained an in game 890J that doesn't do anything but collect dust in my in game hanger. Spent 32+ million on it, made one trip from NB to Hex and back, used more than 75 percent of it fuel. If I could I'd give it away, but ships bought with auec's can't be sold in any manner.
She's an okay ship, but I think she 'feels' wrong for what she is.
She is big, but she's clearly a medium ship with medium parts and medium capacity for her various roles, but she flies like some of the larger ships and corvettes.
I think they need to make her fly a little more like a freelancer, get some of that millenium falcon in her that she was meant to have.
Other than that? She's great, but a jacuzzi is not where you should store sensitive equipment like shield generators, put them in the corridor with the other modules.
And she should probably lose the hot tub for an executive bathroom. Cos she doesn't feel luxury, she feels 'airforce 1'.
Agree with all of this!
+1 on the Airforce 1 vibe. This is a command quarter for a org, not a passenger carrier in any way.
Spot on. Some small redesign for size 3 turrets would make the VIP/crew feel a little safer too haha, after all what large ship has size 2 turrets? (corsair? sshhh!)
Agree, ditch the hot tub for something useful. I would welcome a new component role there kf some sort.
ah, got this complaint from Jack, did we? :D
Excellent review Farrister, I truly enjoy the format of your reviews and it’s refreshing to see a novel approach from a fellow citizen and not just a “RUclipsr”.
Ah thank you :)
I love the fact it has 4 extra beds. I just hope they all will be usable. It would make it a very good "base" ship for a small org.
I can see my self using this as a combined base/explorer/multiuse ship for a small org with up to 10 members. A couple of fighters for escort and you could take any kind of missions, and it could also bee used as a "meeting room" for the org.
I can see it crewed with pilot, 2x gunner, snub fighter and 4 "grunts" with access to a couple of dragon fly's in the cargo compartment. Add another two members piloting their own escort crafts like a 325A and a Titan and you have a small do everything squad that is ready for any mission.
This is the kind of role I can see it prevailing in, but the lack of a medical bed is limiting. That would be a thing to set it apart from the 600i or the MSR. As is, most people will probably dish out the extra credits for a Carrack...
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Sounds like you have it all planned out!
Personally, I think a Caterpillar is a better option for a small org's hub vessel. The cat is modular so it could be fitted out with medical, repair and salvage all simultaneously. Also the cockpit detaches and is an independent vessel with qt and beds. This means you could park your main assortment of 3 customized modules, crew quarters, scanning room, data banks and engineering behind as a miniature station complete with shields while you take the detachable ship where you please. The left behind section even holds the turrets so it could defend itself if the cockpit wasn't attached and it was unable to flee a threat. Thoughts?
@@comradecharles4679 I agree. The Cat will be a perfect small crew base once it's functionality is complete. Currently though it's not worth anything except as a trader, and I was thinking of the currently available game.
If we look at the "functionally complete" game though, I actually think I would prefer the MISC Endavor. But that is not really comparable as it is in a different price range. It is however my personal goal to get one to use as a base of operations on my "legal" account. A Cat could fit well on my other account... ;)
@@Espen_Danielsen I think that sounds great. In fact I recently upgrade to the Endeavor for similar reasons.
I was actually searching for a video like this earlier today. Thanks!
Considering the Phoenix?
@@Farrister, I would like a Constellation and am thinking strongly about the Phoenix.
I have 18+ ships. This one is my favorite by far. It has everything + luxury.
Wow that's quite the collection!
You must have other luxury ships.
Why this one? What sets her appart from something like the 600?
Except proper bathrooms, medbay, and entrance for non-crew.
Very nice video with details, way to go man and keep it up!!!
Thank you :)
The cargo ramp bouncing at the end, so graceful in your quick transition 😂 just have to say I love your content! I just discovered SC last week and am already addicted! Thank you for your reviews on all the ships I’ve seen them all! This is def and end game ship that I hope to get someday! I have the 100i and 315p so far as my starters 🙏 there is something about traveling through space in luxury! 😊
Haha - thanks for your kind words, this is one of my older videos too!
@@Farrister yeah, I saw the time stamp on most so I didn’t comment until now, but your reviews are top notch! Anytime I thought of a ship to look up I just typed Farrister at the end lol. Thanks again! 🙏 looks like their are a lot in concept atm!
I bought the Phoenix, my son who is considerably younger, bought the Aquila. Two basically same ships, two different midsets, one old, one young.
That's pretty cool. Although not surprised to hear your son is younger!
Subscribed! I love these videos
Thank you :)
Great review! The Phoenix is my favorite of the Constellation series, and I think it is still one of the best looking ships in the game. However, that being said, I finally got rid of mine, and traded up for a Carrack. I feel for what I wanted the ship to do, the Carrack exceeds it's performance in every regard. Hopefully I will be able to reacquire a Phoenix later, but for now, I cannot justify the cost of the ship.
I think that the Carrack is a good choice! Happy with the upgrade? :)
@@Farrister Yes, Sir! The only "negative," when comparing the Carrack and the Constellation, is the sheer size of the Carrack. But that is offset to a high degree by the gameplay options provided by the Carrack. Appreciate the response, and keep up the great work, Sir!
Carrack is different nitch than Phoenix.
You trade Aquila for Carrack and Phoenix for 600.
just checking this out before today's sale , cant wait to see some new racing ship videos once the servers get settled down a bit !
3.11 feels like so long ago now!
@@Farrister and this week it feels like 3.11 was so polished haha
I have a lot of experience flying the phoenix, a few things not mentioned: the stock omnisky's can be overclocked indefinitely for added DPS. Only the top 2 pilot guns can be set to s5's, the lower 2 are capped as gimballed s4's. My favorite feature of the phoenix would be it's shielded cargo meaning it cannot be scanned. I run a lot of drugs in this beautiful ship and it's the safest option when it comes to interdictions. Remember though this game changes evolves constantly so this information is as of 3.12
Yeah 3.12 has already made me out of date :( lol
Wow, RSI really stepped it up with the Pheonix. This thing looks amazing.
It looks great inside, but can't help but feel it's a nice luxury loadout, rather than a full on luxury experience like Origin?
Just got mine in the fortuna legends pack! Les go!!
I hope you enjoy!
@@Farrister thank you! Had my eye on this since I first started playing. My life is complete now o3o
And two year later still no reason for hope considering
1) Not a word on future plans for finishing the interior fancification. (There are lots of great ideas for giving it the wow effect it really needs.)
2) On the other hand the full-fancy 600i even getting a full internal rework now while the Phoenix is still untouched and untalked about.
3) Extra-offenses like ripping several paint appeal features off the very expensive-exclusive Phoenix to give them exclusively to the Emerald. (While marketing tries to describe it as genius to combine a VIP lounge with a freighter style AND at the same time hinting that the RSI CEO owns the only fully gold-trimmed Phoenix. - You couldn't construct a better PR nightmare if you tried.)
In a way that makes it the flagship of the development project.
And I have $10 in store credit bound in a CCU to a C2 and wish I didn't, also because my wallet is thoroughly closed now.
:(
So I’ve owned all of the Connie’s not to mention it was my first upgrade. I have a lot of love for the Connie and just got the phoenix so I’m quite happy since it gives that living on the ship vibe
I prefer the Phoenix over the 600i for a few reasons. First of all it's one of my favorites, even over the Carrick, due to the windows. This ship has great visibility from the cockpit and for passengers. The other problem with the 600i is that there is just too much space which makes it kind of ugly inside imo. My main complaint about the Phoenix is that there is no restroom in the luxury area, which is a pretty minor complaint when all is said and done. The fact that it comes with a rover makes it very cool for taking friends on a tour of the game. I do think it needs some in-game upgrades however.
I probably flip further towards the 600i, but it is more expensive, and that's the nice thing about SC - we all have different tastes, which makes for interesting variety in the 'Verse
The hottub also functions as a toilet....
I'm planning to get one. There is just Something I like about the Connie shape. But as an owner of MSR, Carrack and Corsair, the Aquila and Andromeda would just be garage decoration. They don't surpass any of those other ships. So if I'm going to have one as garage decoration. We'll go for the pretty one.
What are your thoughts on the 600i?
@@Farrister so. I have a list, what I call my Day 1 fleet. Which is all the ships I intend to have bought with cash by day 1 release. And while this list may grow with new concepts, it's a good list of my career path, and distractions.
That is to say, I'm going to start with the MSR, until I've accumulated enough money to fill the Carrack, then use it until I earn enough to fill the BMM. Then keep earning into higher value commodities, and finally have money to start buying ships. But I expect that to take a pretty long time. During which I can't afford to to buy a 350R or a Khartu-Al, or a Phoenix. So those are "distractions" which I want to own before launch.
So, I DO like the 600i Touring. And I'll probably get one in game. I might even add it to the Day 1 list if development takes long enough. But it is beautiful on the inside. Just plain on the outside. I like it's loadout. And the master bedroom and bridge.
The 890 is definitely my in-game goal.
How do you get the Constellation Phoenix now? I'm new to SC.
For now, you have to buy in-game with aUEC. They tend to put it up for limited sale if you want to pay (quite a lot) of real money - usually around November and May.
@@Farrister Yeah I want to actually buy it w/ USD. I want my items to stay after wipes.
@@DaPoets keep an eye out for a sale! How are you finding the org?
@@Farrister well every time I check in on discord there's nobody there in voice chat, but I was told people are playing new world and waiting out the upcoming 3.15 wipe.
Nice review. I still Love the conny with his bugs and shield holes 😅🤞
For about 3 months this year I used the Connie as my go to medium hauler!
@@Farrister For me the series is the perfect mix of freighter and gunship. I'm looking forward to the Taurus. This means that you can not only do all bounties quickly but also fly freight routes 😇
To me this ship is beautiful and probably the best looking among the medium large ship in game. Of all the variants the Phoenix is the one I like the less because it seems like a "Luxuryfied old truck", but I still appreciate the effort: it is just that the forward section does not ties well with the rear passenger area. This being said, the Conny is still one of my preferred ships, because I feel it handles right. I've got an MSR to test for a month and I think it's just gimmicky and silly with al the lost space among the maze corridors, the one way entrance through a huge ramp and the unbelievable light fighter handling for a ship that weights probably more then a Conny. With some added blade servers on the rear of the cockpit (where there's plenty of space) The Aquila would straight out be a better MSR. The Phoenix and her sisters are IMO what a large ship for a small crew should look like, with clearly defined sections: Cabin, living space and cargo, and plenty of exits in case something goes wrong, and in this case the phoenix is probably the less successful of the class.
I absolutely love the look and feel of the MSR, but agree about those tunnels underneath. On day 1 I explored them. However many months on, I've never been in them since xD
According to multiple websites MSR has more than 3X the mass of a constellation. Actually equal to that of a 600i or a Caterpillar. And every bit of that wasted space would not be enough to contain its supposed fuel stores.
For the gold standard. My friends and I were talking about the Phoenix, and that it should have the Taurus hull length, and could fit a tier 3 (the worst one) med bay in with extra space.
Med bay would be interesting! Although should that be Phoenix, Aquila, or a new variant?
@@Farrister well maybe the Aquila could get the medbay and the Phoenix gets a fancy bathroom?
A bit late to the comment party but for me the snub is what makes this a no brainer for me amongst the connies. I have tried them all but the constant hassle of having to claim the Archimedes and swap snubs is what finally made me get it and haven't looked back since. 😅 It's just so superior to the Merlin. I get that this is probably not the main reason why people are drawn to this ship, but as a mainly solo player I feel that the connie offers a great soloship with medium ability to do basically all gameloops currently in the game and it's still viable with a small inpromtu crew.
Love your reviews and keep on rewatching them when I feel the meltoholic in me wanting to swap ships.
Thanks :) could easily swap the snubs on the others though!
@Farrister yeah I did that for quite some time but in the end it just became to daunting of a task. 😅 I just wish it was possible to do in the vehicle manager.
wow, since then the connie line has been buffed abit. Tho still waiting on that fated gold standard pass. As a current phoenix owner I thoroughly enjoy it in my fleet. tho the table and jacuzzi no longer function and the Archimedes docking works only some of the time. I still enjoy the snub upgrade(vs the andromeda merlin) and the additional rover is nice as more ground missions and sinkhole cave missions come online.
I actually do recommend the phoenix over the 600i touring as it gives you a lower cost of entry into a bigger luxury ship, provides value for money with a snub and rover in one package, and manages to provide luxury without sacrificing the cargo bay unlike the 600i touring - **potential owners should consider that if it's gonna be your only ship! **** . It's plainly a Nicer, less missile armed andromeda, yes. But that was already a great ship and as a package the phoenix opens up a lot of gameplay, and RP.
it's only real competitor in this space is it's variants and the corsair, But I intend to own the corsair also ;)
P.S Actual luxury is - ZERO COMPROMISE. adding to my stance on the 600i touring, losing a vehicle bay is a compromise and for such a grand ship I'd like my vehicle to come with me and be at my beck and call. even the 400i understood this.
Well we'll have to see what happens to them all in the re-work too!
Having both the pheonix and 600i T, I definitely use the pheonix more and enjoy the luxury airliner feel more
Current owners like myself live in hope of the various bugs getting fixed hopefully in the near future. As its also possibly for sale in show , new owners may become disappointed over issues. On the positive side its such a nice private ship to tour off and relax in , out there in space. ( I wish to be alone) . But many beds are not useable and other stuff are non functional . But still like it , it has character .
Fingers crossed for you :(
Are there any ships you can reccomend for mainly combat? A larger ship though, not a small fighter. I bought this and although it may not be the best I still really like it, and anyway, I can always save up and get another.
Might need to revisit this one Fer. She has 100,000 shields now. 2 size 3 turrets. 2 size 5 and 2 size 4 pilot hardpoints. I think 28 Missles? So basically a gunship now.
Yeah, 3.11 was a while ago now!
@@Farrister this must be one of those rare cases where they buff a ship after release
Know this video is old these days but something of note that makes the Phoenix very good now (3.19) that the Lynx is out. The Phoenix's cargo bay is much wider than the other connies, the Ursa rover was fine in them because you could get out the back, with the Lynx there is only the side entry so driving it into the other connies can make getting out difficult compared to the Phoenix.
3.11 feels like a lifetime ago now!
So having a Lynx in a non-Phoenix Connie is a bit of a luxury. 😅 Maybe even intended that it doesn't quite harmonize.
I've tested the 890J, the 600i and the Phoenix in game pror to purchasing in real cash the one I wanted. Flew each for 6 hours a day and six days. I did the same exact type of mission for each. After I was done, though I had to wait till the aniversay sale, the Phoenix.
The one and only thng I dislike, is the struts which do block a large degree of visability. The one thing I did like about the other two, was the total visability. But one can't have everything one wants. So I'm good!
What do you use it for?
@@Farrister I've upgraded all the cores to "A" graded steath mods. And do package and drug running missions to Grim Hex. In the 315P. Though I know the customizations don't actually do anything, when I'm role playing as I would in real life, want to stop on occasion, look at the view available, listen to some music, and have a cup of coffee and a warmed up donute from my microwave.
When one is young, vs old as I am. One doesn't care about the comfort nearly as much. Though I can afford any ship I wish, I only choose the one that offer though in my imagineation, comfort. I've invested actual cash and obtained the 315P, the Pheonix because of the comfort level they offer. I avoid pew pew as much as possible thus all my loadouts have fully "A" graded stealth mods. And run away if and when I'm ever interdicted.
If and when I ever getting around to utilizing my Warthog and throttle as I do in ED. Perhaps I'll get more involved in pew pew, but until then. I enjoy doing missions which takes me to numerious beautiful locations and want to enjoy them in comfort.
I heard there's a chance of a 400 or 500i which will be more like normal ships their size in regards to fuel and such compared to the 600 or 890J. Which fuel compsumtion and speed SUCKS.
Constellation cockpits will be getting a more strutt-less make-over soonish if not already in 3.13. In 3.13 you will also have snub fighter docking.
@@johnski4709 FAR OUT, I'll be looking forward to that.
I have a LTI Phoenix... Even considering how bugged the ship is currently, I'd never melt or CCU mine. Right now, mine is gathering dust as I never use it due to it's bugs.
However, I'm really waiting for the CIG team to give it some love and then, I'll take mine out of the hangar.
I think if you found a ship like that, one which you know you will spend a lot of time in the future, it's worth keeping!
just got mine today and its been a dream. you should give her another go :)
Despite its many flaws, there is something very appealing about the constellation. I have a Loaner Aquila right now, but eventually it becomes a Corsair. So I just might have to get a Connie, to have in my Harem, I mean my hangar. But the Taurus does not "do it" for me. And I'm not sure I want to pay the price tag for a 600i. So I've been thinking of a Phoenix, covers my luxury ship, and desire for a Connie.
Honestly I would be tempted to stick with the Aquila or go for the Andromeda. Otherwise hold out for a 600i upgrade, based on the state of things at the moment
@@Farrister well, there is definitely a good case for The Andromeda. Almost $100 less than the Aquila. And it has that extra turret.
And I do like the 600i Touring.
But I have a "day 1 target fleet" and none of these ships are on that list. They are all sort of "extra credit" or "wish list" anyways. But Target fleet should be reached by the end of next year. So i actually give it consideration after that. And it will probably go like this: unmelt spare 2018 exploration pack. Terrpin - > Andromeda. Andromeda - > Phoenix. Phoenix - > Touring. Provided those CCUs even exist. Which I think they don't.
Got the snub to finally work. Does the hot-tub work or is it buggy?
I really dislike the constelation series in general, but the luxury aspect, still decent cargo, and the snub for racing/exploring make the Phoenix interesting. Personally, I would like the 400i with the grav gen moved somewhere else, the hatchet nose changed to regular landing gear, and the "garage" replaced with a P72 dock. But I expect that will never happen. The real question is, can docking a Kruger with a Connie allow you to refuel and/or repair the Kruger. The answer to that will effect whether I get the Phoenix or not.
Can't say I disagree lol. At the moment, I don't think so - (maybe) in the future?
The big down side for me on the Connie was the engines being blown off in combat. The massive shield holes at the rear over the engine being the worse bug. I do like the Connis. and it is a Iconic RSI ship that needs a much needed refit and refresh
Yup, although that tends to impact PvP more than PvE
with the upcoming Taurus in July we will see what RSI has in mind for the Conny line.
Looking forward to playing this game.
I'm enjoying it :)
But why only one bathroom? What if the fish is served for dinner so people would have to fight for the single toilet? I hope they add some bathrooms in the suites for luxury passengers. Nothing says quality travel quite like walking into the crew area to use their tiny toilet with shower on top of it.
Haha, agree entirely!
I love this ship for one reason only ... Windows! I just wish they would add some more windows to the 600I
Star Citizen shared a great screenshot on Twitter this week, I think it was from the Phoenix, with somebody sat at the chair and MicroTech shown out of the window!
I am think of trying to get this ship
The archimedes is a great race ship with no way to reach race tracks due to lack of qt drive. Phoenix solves this problem with a guaranteed berth that has limited chance of exploding compared with stashing one inside a 600 or running insurance claims at every planet.
Spot the racer :D
Thanks for a no nonsense review. I'm a massive Connie fan but at the moment the whole series is missing its full potential.
Do you fly any other ships?
@@Farrister I'm patiently waiting for a couple of Crusader ships to drop. :) Other than that I love the 600i and Razor.
@@marktvcturner2448 I'm probably the same!
With quite a number of buy backs should the whim take me. ;)
I do wonder if the Phoenix can do vip transport in the end. Maybe you do know that farrister?
I love this ship, and fell for it the first time I toured it at the space port. Towards the end of the video, I was surprised to see the cargo hold, having been on this ship several times I've never found it. Where is the lift? I do wish the outside was as sleek as the inside though, love the exterior of the 600i but too big for a single or couple to use. And I much prefer the interior decor of the phoenix. Love all your reviews.
If you head to the back of the 'guest' section, just before you get to the main bedroom/hot tub, then look at the wooden floor, you can see the hidden switch :)
@@Farrister yep, I thought that was the main hold area where you can store a vehicle, I noticed you left the smaller hold area via a lift, is this the same lift and I'm blind? Lol. Thanks. 8.42- 8.52 on the vid.
@@PetStarlings same lift xD
@@Farrister Thanks, back to look and save up!
I think this may be one of the only luxury ships I like. It still has some resemblance of a cargo and more messy ship with the main area being luxurious.
It's like a luxury model of a regular spacecraft, so it still has the regular spaceship feel too
@@Farrister Oh nice.
If I could only have one ship I'd consider the Phoenix it's a good all around with class! I have multiple ships that are good at different tasks so no need for one in my fleet. Until VIP transport by then I'll have a 600i.
Yeah that's where I'm just struggling a little on price - if it was a bit cheaper, maybe...
I love this one... Spaceship with both great interior and exterior, take aside its performance
It has a lot of personality to it
I'm not sure the 600i counts as "more unique" given that it is the more straightforward purchase, I'm betting there are a lot more 600i's out there than Phoenixes. While the 600i might be better value for money, and perhaps even better overall, I think the Phoenix is likely more unique.
I suppose you might be right! Would definitely be interesting to see some numbers for each ship class
Are there any upgrades for this ship. Could user better shields and guns
Can't go wrong with Rhino repeaters and an FR-86 shield generator!
I have had both the Phoenix and the 600i and honestly, the only reason the Phoenix is not my daily driver anymore is the shield holes that makes it go boom in a few hits by even a Prospector in certain angles. I also wanted bigger and bigger ships so CCUed it to the 600i and melted for a 890 Jump.
Compared to other bigger luxury ships, the Phoenix feels better than the others. It might be the complete package with snub and rover, it might be the iconic exterior and cockpit design, it might be the all around windows in the passenger section making it feek like a proper touring ship.
I really like its view from the passenger module, without a doubt the best of any ship in SC, even in combat where you can see the missiles flying.
I will definitely unmelt it when we get the next token. It might be way smaller and less luxurious than my current 890J, but it used to be my first dream ship and it still has something special.
In the end, it's not about checking some utility boxes, it's about feeling right at home in your ship, and the Phoenix definitely does just that, even with its lack of amenities compared to the 600i or even 890J.
The Phoenix is supposed to be much better this patch, I haven't had chance to try it out yet!
@@Farrister Not mentioning, it will be far less expensive to own and operate than Origin luxury ships, even if I love my 890 it will surely stay in the hangar because of fuel/crew costs
As a really new player (a few days) I've still a lot to learn, can shields, gun power etc be upgraded at a later date?
@@PetStarlings yes, but not infinitely - components have set sizes, so you can replace them, but only with components of the same size category. Erkul.games is a great website for comparinf
@@PetStarlings Yes, you can upgrade your components, but as Farrister said, every ship component has a size and you can only replace them with the same size. That being said, some upgraded components are nearly twice as good than the stock loadout, depending on the ship.
You can choose between 5 component classes for each ship: Civilian, Competition, Industrial, Military and Stealth, depending on what you are looking for.
Basically, upgraded power plant and coolers let you use your ship functions longer without overheating, upgraded weapons do more damage, upgraded shields can take more damage and/or recharge faster, upgraded Quantum Drive can be more fuel efficient and slower or faster but more fuel hungry... Higher class components tend to have more HP (unless they are in the stealth class), so there is also that.
Also, if your ship comes with gimballed weapons, you can equip fixed weapons one size bigger instead, but you will lose aim assist. This is recommended on nimble fighters, not so much on bigger ships as it's harder to hit targets.
All of this is already in the current iteration of Star Citizen, so you don't need to wait a later date to improve your ship. Actually, an upgraded starter Aurora or Mustang can be a very effective fighter against small targets, you can add 2 additionnal size 1 guns right out of the box and upgrade the ones already installed, plus shields and plant, all with ingame money :)
The only thing is that for now, there is no description of the relative effectiveness of components in the PU, so you will have to rely on external websites to know what components to buy to improve your ships until we get a proper UI for that.
One of my issues with this ship (that Ive never owned, only toured a few times) is that the master bunk area, with the double bed... HAS A WINDOW INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE SHIP.
I do not want people watching me sleep x_x
Actually i love this. it fits way more with my style. sad that I can't buy her anymore
It goes on sale from time to time :) And from Lorville for aUEC
@@Farrister I don't wanna use aUEC cause I never can get enough and I don't want it wiped. I'd rather have a permanent version
Can I fit Ursa rover inside the vehicle bay?
This has become my pve ship. VHRT missions are a breeze once you upgrade all the components like shields etc.
And stylish!
I love constellation series, but the vehicles keep bugging out for me in the cargo bay.
Ahh :(
maybe with gold pass it'll get interior lighting options and VIP bathroom,,,
Hmm, maybe...
The Connie Phoenix is a luxury NPC transporter, you get contracts to transport VIPS instead of cargo, it would be compared to the Genesis Starliner. The 600i is a nicer and faster ship but its for touring and exploration.
I am not sure how much i am going to transport NPC's, i just like the interior more then the 600i.
Sadly still don't have those features in game yet :(
another major issue with the design of this is the lack of guest bathrooms. id rather have a luxurious bathroom vs the hot tub if i owned this ship.
Agreed!
Get rid of the hot tub and put in either two smaller bathrooms or one bigger one. I see this being almost a family tourer with a skeleton crew up front to pilot ect. Being that most families share a bathroom at home this isn't a major problem but even two smaller shower rooms would be a major benefit over the passengers having a tiny cubby up front to do their business in. Major oversight from rsi on an otherwise awesome looking ship.
This hot tub needs to be in the 400i, where those components are chilled out, and/or a sauna/steamroom. In this ship it feels out of place.
It does a bit
Puhh, whats better now? the constalation or the 600I?? the Constalation is like a flying House! Beautiful interior! The 600I more like a hotel! Its really hard to say, which I like more!
I prefer the 600i, BUT it's more expensive!
@@Farrister Yeah, if I buy a more costly ship, that more wouldn't bite. But to consinder which one fits more to me, I have to say, that I really tend more to the Constalation. Its not so big, well flyable with one person and the interior is really nice! Its like a flying House. Not a caravan anymore. The style is pretty neat. I really like the nice sitting area, where you have a look out. The living room with bar and a pool! Then the nice bedroom. Very Beautiful i must say, whyle the 600I is too much rooms, and sometimes too empty in its design. May be, the are overworking it one day.
you missed something. I just found out at the expo. Pheonix is a luxury ship, right? It has seats and bdrooms and main bedroom for guests, right? Also a bar. So where do the luxurious guest pee? in the gammy crew toilet/shower-combo room! there are no guest toilets! Nothing! Thats not luxury lol. Or perhaps the whirlpool...'disposes'...of bodily wastes?....
Just take the Andromeda. or a shower, whatever.. XD
I agree entirely!!!!!
@@Farrister It would have been the perfect party cruiser, not as big as the 600i but it's got a bar, a whirlpool, seats and tables... just tell your kidneys to slow down, I guess.
great it can fit a roc ??
I just want a connie with a crew quarters more like the Corsair's(with the bedrooms and all) without sacrificing my cargo bay, and some front landing gear ffs
I'm really excited to see the Corsair. And front landing gear, +1
Can it equip the S2 missiles.
Does it have the point defence system.
Can I trade my BMM CCU for a CCU to one lol 😅
Surely you would keep the BMM??!!
@@Farrister I have one.
So I would trade my second one for a Phoenix (CCU, not actual ships).
I have a mole $315 to BMM $450.
But I like the Phoenix because it is pretty and it is supposed to be multirole and tough able to take on multiple single sit fighters.
Why does my Phoenix state it has 96 tons of cargo space?
Yeah mine said the same - suspect it is a bug!
@@Farrister actually the phoenix is supposed to have 80 SCU, the 93 is a bug
@@Admiral_Grufus I just report on what's in game at the time!
@@Farrister fair enough
My biggest complaint with the Phoenix is the fact VIP guests are forced to share the head with the crew...
It does seem unusual!
No! The crew are required to pee in a jar/poop in a baggy and get rid of it via airlock.
@@johnski4709 hot tub........
The snub bay doubles as an airplane toilet
I agree with the review; the 600i offers a bit more
I do like the Origin ships xD
I feel like the connie needs to be re-made and updated.
And the worst part is, it's already had 3 makeovers!
@@Farrister they obviously did not knownwhat to do with it. The design language needs unification throught the ship. Instead of it feeling like a luxury ship throughout we have what feels like entirely different compartments of entirely different ships slapped together. The crew compartment feels like walking through the kitchen of a fancy restaurant.
She's a beaute!!
She is that! (In some places more than others!)
One of the things that bugs me about the Phoenix... 4 crew, luxury accommodations including 3 private cabins, a hot tub, and a bar for guests.... and EVERYBODY shares the same Porta-John
I know what you mean!
The fact that there is no guest bathroom is so frustrating :/
And surprising!
It is almost guranteed they will update this ship down the road, because it is severely outdated as it is now.
I hope so too :)
The dual co-pilot seats make absolutely no-sense. The only way that works, if they are weapons officer stations. Remote turrets and rockets and defensive counter measures deployment. Lack of posterior weapons station, lack of manuverability leaves it an easy kill. get on it's tail and blast away. Now, if you put some of those missiles to 360 degree coverage then you may be viable at one of those before mentioned co-pilot stations. There's just so much potential with this craft.
Yeah the copilot gameplay is a bit weak right now :(
I would get rid of the central chair lifts and make each copilot seat have an option to remote turret gunner control.
High class uber
Pretty much!! With a hot tub
93 cargo? I thought it was closer to 56. But I don't have one yet, so I don't know.
And I thought it was advertised as 80. But in game, it's 93 right now!
@@Farrister sweet
@@Farrister I think, the 93 SCU its a bug. The real cargo of the Phoenix is 80 SCU
It's supposed to be a luxury ship, but has a distinct lack of bsthroom faci,ities for the cabind
Yeah it's a shame
I just wish that they remove those center bars in the cockpit.
Yup...
I had a Phoenix for about a week. its cool, but very disjointed. It just did not evoke the feeling of space ship to me. most of the luxury ships in star citizen aren't really all that luxurious, ironically the Phoenix is the only luxury ship that has reasonable windows. I ended up switching back to an andromeda... which eventually became a Carrack.
The Carrack is a nice choice. Did you consider the 600i?
@@Farrister no, kinda for the same reason the Phoenix. The "luxury" ships in star citizen are a wacky funhouse mirror kind of luxury. But more importantly, I like my spaceships feeling like spaceships.
There is functionality from the Andromeda I miss, pilot controled weapons, the cargo lift for vehicles (as buggy and bouncy as it was) come to mind. But the carrack really is everything constellation owners want their constellation to be.
Did they forget to give the passengers a toilet or shower?
Forget, or decide on purpose...? :D
my hottub is glitched, wont open :
literally unplayable
this or 600i?
Be better if you werent jerking the camera around every half second during the tour portion of the video, please make these smoother, it's hard to watch when you're the passenger while the driver goes all over the road
Thank you - appropriate feedback for somebody with your username :)
At this rate Star Citizen is going to put me out of business
It's a space Winnebago
Haha it has that feel to it, yes!
windows!, need I say more?
The ship with both windows and tux.
Something about the ship's name doesn't match the ship.
I never really thought about it but you might be on to something there!
@@Farrister I have some ideas if anyone involved with the ship ever wants to listen. The Phoenix Star Constellation has a star called Ankaa...which is the Bightest Star...it really needs to represent its name to give honor to the Phoenix Spirit/Concept. Since its a bird that never touched the ground, its a great idea for a ship. I only am heavy into this for being Phoenix in a virtual world for years and also a virtual world builder.
Where do the fancy guests take poops?
Hot tub?
@@Farrister LOL! I was thinking that but not going to suggest it myself!
Hi
Ahoy
Only a kid will choose I want all of then
the worst part about this compared to 600i, is that you can ccu to 600i and have that sweet lifetime, but phoenix? nope.
exept you take some of the outrageous overpriced megapacks.
Never buy any connies
Never?
@@Farrister Never ever
Old and ugly ship, too much outdated !
Ugly?? Oh no!!