Great video, a couple of tips I find handy. Shift+Q: Auto dispense Flare/Chaff, VERY Important you do this when entering hostile zones or if you think there might be IGLA's in the area - make sure to toggle it back off when leaving a hostile zone or you'll waste your CMs. ALT+W: Manual weapons override, you can fire your weapons from a further distance, especially useful when firing your weapons from a higher altitude, you can increase your distance by 1-2 Km's, (You wont get the hard system lock, but if you're good enough you can soft lock it yourself) For advanced firing try this: Get some good altitude and camera lock a cluster of targets outside the Vikhr range- Turn on your laser, fire a Vikhr, cycle laser Off/On and fire a second Vikhr, cycle laser off/on and fire 3'rd Vikhr. You can keep doing this until your first missile is no more than 5-8 seconds away. Once that happens leave your laser on for terminal guidance. Your first Vikhr will hit your lased target and you will have 2-3 seconds to locate a new target for each following missile. If you get really good you can take out entire tank columns from a safe distance.
Great advice! The countermeasures were covered in an earlier tutorial video but I personally don't like Shift+Q as it is a waste and they run out quickly. But that is my preference. Otherwise, good tips!
Hi, another important thing not mentioned on the tutorial, if you press LEFT CTRL+V the aiming reticle goes to the center of the HUD and you fire 2 Vikhrs at the same time. Especially usefull against heavy armoured vehicles like MBTs.
Awesome, I didn't know about the auto-laser stuff for the vikhr, I always did it manually so this is a nice tip. I would have expected you to mention about changing the target box size (especially since I saw you do it when lining up one on of the gun runs and seeing it was at 15 and not locking well on the truck). Otherwise, good stuff as always.
I laughed out loud when your cat meowed and your head whipped around for a few seconds. I don't know why that was so funny but it was. Thanks for these tutorials, they're great. Wonderful pacing and explanation.
The tip with the Fantasmagoria..........EPIC!! Thank you for that!! Is it true that all the weapons on the Su-25T if they end in an L means laser guided and if they end in a T means TV guided?
Hello everybody, talking about the space bar key for firing, i too have the same problem, when i press space bar to fire nothing happens. I always get my LA but KC doesn't turn to AC. Thank's in advance !!!
I think it's worth mentioning that Shkval by itself has a higher zoom factor (23x, I believe) than the Mercury (8x max). So Shkval's the better bet in daylight.
@@nazgul_53 Wow, five years ago.... " U " seems to be the Russian designation for a two seat trainer, but what does the second letter signify ? like UM and UB and UT ?
@@colderwar UB - учебно-боевой (uchebno boevoi) training-combat UT - its sort of training-training (учебно тренировачныи) non combat application UM - uachebno-modernizovanniy (учебно модернизованныи) training application + modernized (can be used sometimes in combat) UM depends on the aircraft though, I havent researched all of the aircrafts with such applications.
I have a big problem in finding the following: 1-The place where I am supposed to bomb on the second run if I missed it on the first run. When I return with the aircraft, I can not visually see exactly where is the location. 2-Missions that require me bombing a building that on a mission planner looks so easy. But when I am actually there, I do not know which one! And my Right Ctrl + O to bring the night mode vision is not working! Why?
I'm just using the 1.2.8 open beta. Nothing else is modified. I'm using the "high" graphics preset at 1920x1080. Otherwise, it's all vanilla DCS World content.
One question, how does the TV target LOCK on targets? I see that you manage to just snap to any ground target the TV reticulum, while i can't, seems that my TV is just pointing at mountains and doesn't detects any vehicles down there.
You have to move the camera manually. The TV doesn't really detect anything. You have to search for yourself. He explains it at 2:25 When the center is pointing at something with high contrast it locks onto it. Try pressing 'enter'. I think that is the default key to lock the TV to a position.
The Skval camera locks on to targets based on their contrast against the ground. First you should ground-stabilize the camera by pressing "enter" as explained in the video, then you must point the camera at a target. Once it is ground stabilized it will automatically lock when it can differentiate the outline of a ground target and the ground.
Robert Sogomonian Except that unfortunately there is some nasty bug which makes the game absolutely refuse to ground lock 90% of the time no matter what I do.
Unfortunately, I have no clue how to help you without being able to watch your game play. Are you ground stabilizing your targeting camera? What weapons are you trying to lock? Is the target box the correct size for what you're trying to lock on to?
Yea, that's a problem. The camera randomly will not ground stabilize. I think I've tracked it down to an issue when you alt-tab things break in the game. Like in the A-10C the buttons on the instruments won't be clickable anymore or the armament window will show off screen.
can you do something like... with vickhers you aim, you get an AC you get LA you fire, at about the midle of the rocket flight you launch the 2nd one, first one hits the target, you quickly change to the next target and then the 2nd missle hits the 2nd target? p.s. great vid series!
Robert Sogomonian I've got a quick question for ya. When using the VIKHRS against moving targets I cannot seem to track. For example if a tank is moving left to right, how do you accurately take it out?
The Skval will automatically lock on to ground targets when the camera target box is placed over the moving target and the camera is within attack range... it's usually just slightly farther than the launch authorization range for your selected weapon. Once the camera has locked, you should be able to fire your Vikhr as you normally do - but don't unlock the camera from the target until after the missile hits. It will automatically lock, provided you have it in ground stabilized mode, I should say.
I am having trouble hitting targets as the Shkval pipper won't lock/stabilize after hitting (LOCK) key. Any ideas and do you have the same trouble after update 1.5.4
So I have had dcs world for about a week and for some reason I can not fire air to air missles or any thing from the skervul. I can use my joystick trigger to fire cannon, unguided rockets and the 2 large dumb bombs but when I lock onto an air target or ground target and I get a tone to fire but I cannot fire with the trigger or spacebar. I even checked for the weapons override using alt w. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
Try holding the weapons release button for longer than 2 seconds. Locked munitions don't launch immediately, there is a slight delay (and I believe it works this way in real life as well).
so i fly towards the target get auto tracking with the camera turn on the laser but the LA just blinks and i can't fire. am i missing something or what?
Yes. I think it’s something about the launch authorization because on the screen and hud “LA” is flashing and not still like it’s for you in the video.
ok so i did some more testing and my results are that the Vikhr missiles work, the kh-29T works, but the S-25L doesn't for some odd reason. (I have not tried any other weapons then those 3)
I had this problem as well... in my case, I was getting too close and I was within minimum range. I had to fly longer out before turning back in for my next pass.
Kensai7KM TrackIR works great for head movement forward and backward in the cockpit, but to actually zoom in and out I have the functionality bound to a slider on my joystick. It works a lot better that way. =)
When playing a mission i make the tv will go into AC mode but when i make any quick missions or play the campaign my plane wont go into ac mode.... could it be time of day or maybe the fact that they are moving, and also my 25ml wont give me LA it will just blink even when i am in range
For the 25ML are you turning the laser on? The Vikhr rockets automatically engage the laser when you fire, but for the 25ML you must turn the laser on manually before it will lock and give you launch authorization. As for the Skval not going into AC mode... I really have no idea. Check the target box size is appropriate for the targets you are hunting (should be just slightly bigger than the target you're trying to lock on to) and make sure the camera is ground stabilized and pointed at your target.
On my HUD it's displaying TB and not TV when the screen is on, and when I attempt to lock on something the AC never appears, anyone got any ideas please?
Hi! great tutorials man! Just one question... at 5:05 you lock the camera to the ground by pressing the enter key. My enter key is bound to the "lock target" function witch I presume is what you're doing here. But when I press enter to lock to the ground or "ground stabilize" it, the camera locks onto something completely of to the side randomly or just recenters it to the start position and doesn't lock onto anything at all... Any ideas???
Thanks for the quick response. What could it be conflicting with??? it is default settings. It just doesn't lock onto the ground Sometimes it locks onto something way off and a little red square appears onto what it has locked onto, so maybe i've got some sort of rediculous assist?
Do you have "Game Avionics" set in the options? If so, the Skval will lock onto targets (supposedly starting with the closest one), rather than ground stabilize.
aha! I'll give that a go, I have got it set because I didn't know what it meant, but now i suppose it's "game" avionics instead of more realistic "simulator" avionics, i'll do the same with the flight characteristics. Thanks! I'll come back if it still doesn't work :D thx
The only way I am able to fire missiles is if I override the launch permissions. (L-ALT+W) I acquire the target and get AC in the top right of shkval and NP in the bottom. I have the same problem when flying the in game tutorial. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? It's flying me crazy! Also these tutorials are really good. Much better than the in game tutorials. Thanks.
I never realized how hard it is to find your target, let alone attack it. Just a preset target range where you know where everything is, bright sunshine, no return fire...yet still missing. But that's what realism is. If it were an arcade game your targets would be bracketed and highlighted. Not DCS. You're on your own.
La shows up, AC shows up, Rznge is ok, laser is on, weapon chosen, held the space bar, didnt fire.. only ones to fire were kh29t I believe, but i can carry only 2 of them
For the Vikhr, the two circles need to be lined up (but you wouldn't get the LA prompt if they weren't... so I'm at a loss as to why that won't work) and the laser guided missiles should be even easier to launch. Everything works on my end... would you mind checking your controls to make sure you haven't modified them in any way?
I've never experienced the laser overheating or burning out either, but it has been stated that it happens on the forums so I figure better safe to include the information than to omit it!
Robert Sogomonian By the way, how do you bring the reticle of the gun pods back to the default position? You failed to mention what keys to hit. Also do you know what key brings the reticle of the TV camera on the HUD/Shkval back in the centre/default position? Tahnks...
kevinstinger22 Yes, but it is much more fun and playable if you do have a joystick. Without a joystick, you use the keyboard to control all aspects of the aircraft. The key combinations are explained throughout the course of the tutorial videos and/or in the comments if I forgot to mention something in the video.
Robert Sogomonian Actually that is similar to my setup, but I still get a ton of screen tearing in the Su-25 with TrackIR as my move my head (v-sync on and off). What are your graphics settings in-game?
of course it's effective to use guns. 15 bullets is a lot more effective than a single laser guided missile. well perhaps not more effective, but you can kill a lot more things with one pylon.
Great video, a couple of tips I find handy.
Shift+Q: Auto dispense Flare/Chaff, VERY Important you do this when entering hostile zones or if you think there might be IGLA's in the area - make sure to toggle it back off when leaving a hostile zone or you'll waste your CMs.
ALT+W: Manual weapons override, you can fire your weapons from a further distance, especially useful when firing your weapons from a higher altitude, you can increase your distance by 1-2 Km's, (You wont get the hard system lock, but if you're good enough you can soft lock it yourself)
For advanced firing try this: Get some good altitude and camera lock a cluster of targets outside the Vikhr range- Turn on your laser, fire a Vikhr, cycle laser Off/On and fire a second Vikhr, cycle laser off/on and fire 3'rd Vikhr. You can keep doing this until your first missile is no more than 5-8 seconds away. Once that happens leave your laser on for terminal guidance. Your first Vikhr will hit your lased target and you will have 2-3 seconds to locate a new target for each following missile. If you get really good you can take out entire tank columns from a safe distance.
Great advice! The countermeasures were covered in an earlier tutorial video but I personally don't like Shift+Q as it is a waste and they run out quickly. But that is my preference. Otherwise, good tips!
Hi, another important thing not mentioned on the tutorial, if you press LEFT CTRL+V the aiming reticle goes to the center of the HUD and you fire 2 Vikhrs at the same time. Especially usefull against heavy armoured vehicles like MBTs.
This is a good tip!
FYI, your tutorials inspired me to "semi copy" them on my channel, and i translated them to german AND spanish! thank you for your great tutorials
Best Vikhr tutorial on RUclips. THANK YOU!
Thanks for the excellent set of tutorials, much easier than the ones which come with it!
I've been watching your tutorial series on the SU25. You did an amazing job!!!! Thx!
Hi Robert thanks for the tutorials and cant wait for the release of parts 9 and 10, have enjoyed watching your tutorial easy to understand and follow.
thdman15111 Thanks! They are coming very soon along with information on my next endeavor.
Awesome, I didn't know about the auto-laser stuff for the vikhr, I always did it manually so this is a nice tip. I would have expected you to mention about changing the target box size (especially since I saw you do it when lining up one on of the gun runs and seeing it was at 15 and not locking well on the truck). Otherwise, good stuff as always.
*super concentrated, noting shit down*
"Meeeooowww"
Cats
"3 targets 1 pass" Sounds like the start of a really good movie ;)
Come along, Robert. We are slobbering like Pavlovian dogs waiting for you to complete your excellent series.
***** Coming soon! Just got done with a move.
I laughed out loud when your cat meowed and your head whipped around for a few seconds. I don't know why that was so funny but it was.
Thanks for these tutorials, they're great. Wonderful pacing and explanation.
+Danger Ranger Dan There's ... SOMETHING ON THE WING!! ;-)
At what time did this happen.
Hope it went smoothly for you. Waiting patiently.
The tip with the Fantasmagoria..........EPIC!! Thank you for that!! Is it true that all the weapons on the Su-25T if they end in an L means laser guided and if they end in a T means TV guided?
Hello everybody, talking about the space bar key for firing, i too have the same problem, when i press space bar to fire nothing happens. I always get my LA but KC doesn't turn to AC. Thank's in advance !!!
Great video it helped me alot, and my cat always wants into my attic space lol, she sits at the door meowing :)
thanks alot for all the tutorials helped alot ;)
I think it's worth mentioning that Shkval by itself has a higher zoom factor (23x, I believe) than the Mercury (8x max). So Shkval's the better bet in daylight.
Love the tutorials. Didn't know that the Su-25T came with a cat co-pilot :)
actually, T variant comes from UB variant which is training variant, hence has two pilots
@@nazgul_53 Wow, five years ago.... " U " seems to be the Russian designation for a two seat trainer, but what does the second letter signify ? like UM and UB and UT ?
@@colderwar UB - учебно-боевой (uchebno boevoi) training-combat
UT - its sort of training-training (учебно тренировачныи) non combat application
UM - uachebno-modernizovanniy (учебно модернизованныи) training application + modernized (can be used sometimes in combat)
UM depends on the aircraft though, I havent researched all of the aircrafts with such applications.
Thanks Robert.
I have a big problem in finding the following:
1-The place where I am supposed to bomb on the second run if I missed it on the first run. When I return with the aircraft, I can not visually see exactly where is the location.
2-Missions that require me bombing a building that on a mission planner looks so easy. But when I am actually there, I do not know which one! And my Right Ctrl + O to bring the night mode vision is not working! Why?
Thanks for the tutorial, will you also make no. 9 and 10 of your video serie?
your dcs seems to be high definition textures. where can i find it? thx in advance
I'm just using the 1.2.8 open beta. Nothing else is modified. I'm using the "high" graphics preset at 1920x1080. Otherwise, it's all vanilla DCS World content.
Robert Sogomonian
Thank you very much. I'll download it as soon as possible :-).
Nice and very useful video. Keep it up.
One question, how does the TV target LOCK on targets? I see that you manage to just snap to any ground target the TV reticulum, while i can't, seems that my TV is just pointing at mountains and doesn't detects any vehicles down there.
You have to move the camera manually. The TV doesn't really detect anything. You have to search for yourself. He explains it at 2:25
When the center is pointing at something with high contrast it locks onto it.
Try pressing 'enter'. I think that is the default key to lock the TV to a position.
The Skval camera locks on to targets based on their contrast against the ground. First you should ground-stabilize the camera by pressing "enter" as explained in the video, then you must point the camera at a target. Once it is ground stabilized it will automatically lock when it can differentiate the outline of a ground target and the ground.
Robert Sogomonian Except that unfortunately there is some nasty bug which makes the game absolutely refuse to ground lock 90% of the time no matter what I do.
Unfortunately, I have no clue how to help you without being able to watch your game play. Are you ground stabilizing your targeting camera? What weapons are you trying to lock? Is the target box the correct size for what you're trying to lock on to?
Yea, that's a problem. The camera randomly will not ground stabilize. I think I've tracked it down to an issue when you alt-tab things break in the game. Like in the A-10C the buttons on the instruments won't be clickable anymore or the armament window will show off screen.
how do u move the circle on hud to change camera view?
By default it's the ; , . / keys
can you do something like... with vickhers
you aim, you get an AC you get LA you fire, at about the midle of the rocket flight you launch the 2nd one, first one hits the target, you quickly change to the next target and then the 2nd missle hits the 2nd target?
p.s. great vid series!
Robert Sogomonian I've got a quick question for ya. When using the VIKHRS against moving targets I cannot seem to track. For example if a tank is moving left to right, how do you accurately take it out?
The Skval will automatically lock on to ground targets when the camera target box is placed over the moving target and the camera is within attack range... it's usually just slightly farther than the launch authorization range for your selected weapon. Once the camera has locked, you should be able to fire your Vikhr as you normally do - but don't unlock the camera from the target until after the missile hits.
It will automatically lock, provided you have it in ground stabilized mode, I should say.
Robert Sogomonian I figured out the problem was the aiming box was too big. Had to figure out how to adjust it. Thanks for the reply!
No problem! And yes, the aiming box does make a difference. =)
Happy flying!
+Robert Sogomonian how did you change the HUD to English?
I am having trouble hitting targets as the Shkval pipper won't lock/stabilize after hitting (LOCK) key.
Any ideas and do you have the same trouble after update 1.5.4
I don't - be sure it's bound to what you think it should be in the control settings!
are you using trackir or freetrack? how do you move (not zoom) forward and back in the cockpit? are you actually moving toward/away from the screen?
When using your mouse to look around the cockpit, press and hold the scrolling button on top of your mouse.
my launch authorization thing just flashes and doesn't let me shoot. Do you know what the problem would be?
Hold down the weapons launch button for longer. It usually takes a couple of seconds for the weapon to fire.
Robert Sogomonian Alright. Thanks
So I have had dcs world for about a week and for some reason I can not fire air to air missles or any thing from the skervul. I can use my joystick trigger to fire cannon, unguided rockets and the 2 large dumb bombs but when I lock onto an air target or ground target and I get a tone to fire but I cannot fire with the trigger or spacebar. I even checked for the weapons override using alt w. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
Try holding the weapons release button for longer than 2 seconds. Locked munitions don't launch immediately, there is a slight delay (and I believe it works this way in real life as well).
so i fly towards the target get auto tracking with the camera turn on the laser but the LA just blinks and i can't fire. am i missing something or what?
Are you holding the trigger down for about three seconds?
Yes.
I think it’s something about the launch authorization because on the screen and hud “LA” is flashing and not still like it’s for you in the video.
ok so i did some more testing and my results are that the Vikhr missiles work, the kh-29T works, but the S-25L doesn't for some odd reason. (I have not tried any other weapons then those 3)
I'll hop on and test as well sometime today since I'll have some time to, I'll let you know what I find. Might just be bugged!
I had this problem as well... in my case, I was getting too close and I was within minimum range. I had to fly longer out before turning back in for my next pass.
Do you move your head forward in order to zoom in on the camera?
(using TrackIR, I guess)
Kensai7KM TrackIR works great for head movement forward and backward in the cockpit, but to actually zoom in and out I have the functionality bound to a slider on my joystick. It works a lot better that way. =)
Thanks for the prompt answer. Great tutorials by the way. Subscribed! :)
how do u load weapons? thanks great tut.
When playing a mission i make the tv will go into AC mode but when i make any quick missions or play the campaign my plane wont go into ac mode.... could it be time of day or maybe the fact that they are moving, and also my 25ml wont give me LA it will just blink even when i am in range
For the 25ML are you turning the laser on? The Vikhr rockets automatically engage the laser when you fire, but for the 25ML you must turn the laser on manually before it will lock and give you launch authorization.
As for the Skval not going into AC mode... I really have no idea. Check the target box size is appropriate for the targets you are hunting (should be just slightly bigger than the target you're trying to lock on to) and make sure the camera is ground stabilized and pointed at your target.
the 25ml started working, but the tv still wont ac on moving targets
On my HUD it's displaying TB and not TV when the screen is on, and when I attempt to lock on something the AC never appears, anyone got any ideas please?
its in Russian lol
в = V
its just cyrilic alphabet
Hi! great tutorials man! Just one question... at 5:05 you lock the camera to the ground by pressing the enter key. My enter key is bound to the "lock target" function witch I presume is what you're doing here. But when I press enter to lock to the ground or "ground stabilize" it, the camera locks onto something completely of to the side randomly or just recenters it to the start position and doesn't lock onto anything at all... Any ideas???
That is very strange... the only thing I can think of off the top of my head is maybe a binding conflict?
Thanks for the quick response. What could it be conflicting with??? it is default settings. It just doesn't lock onto the ground
Sometimes it locks onto something way off and a little red square appears onto what it has locked onto, so maybe i've got some sort of rediculous assist?
Do you have "Game Avionics" set in the options? If so, the Skval will lock onto targets (supposedly starting with the closest one), rather than ground stabilize.
aha! I'll give that a go, I have got it set because I didn't know what it meant, but now i suppose it's "game" avionics instead of more realistic "simulator" avionics, i'll do the same with the flight characteristics. Thanks! I'll come back if it still doesn't work
:D thx
Thank! you! So much dude, It works, I've loved your whole series, it's really helped :)
I activate the laser i get launch authorization i press launch but the missile doesnt activate. Any ideas?
You have to hold the fire button
The only way I am able to fire missiles is if I override the launch permissions. (L-ALT+W) I acquire the target and get AC in the top right of shkval and NP in the bottom. I have the same problem when flying the in game tutorial. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? It's flying me crazy!
Also these tutorials are really good. Much better than the in game tutorials. Thanks.
Which video shows trimming?
I never realized how hard it is to find your target, let alone attack it. Just a preset target range where you know where everything is, bright sunshine, no return fire...yet still missing. But that's what realism is. If it were an arcade game your targets would be bracketed and highlighted. Not DCS. You're on your own.
how do you move the tv cam
Every time i lock onto a target with laser i press spacebar and nothing happens, vikhr and semi-guided missiles don't work.
Are you holding the space bar down for a few seconds? Does the Launch Authorization cue show up at the bottom of the HUD (LA)?
La shows up, AC shows up, Rznge is ok, laser is on, weapon chosen, held the space bar, didnt fire.. only ones to fire were kh29t I believe, but i can carry only 2 of them
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For the Vikhr, the two circles need to be lined up (but you wouldn't get the LA prompt if they weren't... so I'm at a loss as to why that won't work) and the laser guided missiles should be even easier to launch. Everything works on my end... would you mind checking your controls to make sure you haven't modified them in any way?
***** I found out the reason, if you start from hangars, the lock ons don't work, but when you start from runway or airborne, they work well
I always fly the Ka-50 and I don't think that the laser overheats! I keep it on for as long as I'm firing Vikhrs and sometimes even longer!
I've never experienced the laser overheating or burning out either, but it has been stated that it happens on the forums so I figure better safe to include the information than to omit it!
Robert Sogomonian I turn it off though to give the party a bit more realism :)
Robert Sogomonian By the way, how do you bring the reticle of the gun pods back to the default position? You failed to mention what keys to hit. Also do you know what key brings the reticle of the TV camera on the HUD/Shkval back in the centre/default position?
Tahnks...
Robert, when is part 9 coming out?
Probably beginning of July. I'm out of town visiting family and do not have a computer that is capable of playing or recording DCS: World.
I have a question, can you play DCS: World without a joystick?
kevinstinger22 Yes, but it is much more fun and playable if you do have a joystick. Without a joystick, you use the keyboard to control all aspects of the aircraft. The key combinations are explained throughout the course of the tutorial videos and/or in the comments if I forgot to mention something in the video.
Robert Sogomonian Okay thank you very much for Your help. :D
kevinstinger22
An XBox controller can be useful, too ;)
Jürgen Lehmann Okay, thanks. :D
Your PC is brutal! Wich pc do you have?
It's not that crazy, actually.
ASRock z87e-itx
Intel Core i7 4770K @ 3.5GHz
G.Skill 16GB RAM
GeForce GTX 670
Robert Sogomonian Actually that is similar to my setup, but I still get a ton of screen tearing in the Su-25 with TrackIR as my move my head (v-sync on and off). What are your graphics settings in-game?
High everything, MSAA 2x, everything unchecked except for fullscreen and in-cockpit shadows.
and 2560x1440
But it is recorded at 1080p, so I run it at 1080p when I am recording.
the laser on the su25t DOES burn out lol (as of 1.2.8 beta)..... believe me on that.
the 25ml is spot tracking, not beam riding.
oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy
At 17:50 how you target that fast.
Practice!
of course it's effective to use guns. 15 bullets is a lot more effective than a single laser guided missile. well perhaps not more effective, but you can kill a lot more things with one pylon.
no part 9 or 10? :(
Soon!
Robert Sogomonian
yay Robert only 2 more to go..PLEASE ;o)
Pls let the cat into the attic :(
Meow
You keep saying rocket....anything guided is not a rocket but a missile.