Wow! Those dual triangular trumpet simplex horns were the ones all over my grade school (Fall '77 to Spring '86). I could swear I also remember one or two Simplex 4051 units, as well. I think I remember one near the gym somewhere, and... maybe the dining room... or the auditorium. Anyway, that was ages ago! Great vid!
A lot of CT schools used these. Laurel Ledge School in Beacon Falls had it along with Sedgwick and Conard in West Hartford. I hated this alarm the most because of how loud it was. I'd even prefer the high-pitched "cricket" noise over this.
Those dual simplex horns are definitely my favorite of all of these, mostly because they’re so unique! I’ve never seen anything quite like that before, so they must be quite rare.
My high school had 4903-9101 strobe plates with 2901-9838 horns on them. The strobes were actually on the bottom part of the plate instead of the top. All were on continuous. One strobe plate even had a Wheelock 34t horn on it. This was all on a Simplex 4002 system. Btw, this was a school in Milford CT
My middle school in West Hartford had them mounted the same way. Like the 2903's at Tunxis, some of them were on 4050-80 backboxes. The larger gym still had a lone 4050-80 left, with a low-pitched -9806. The same gym also had a 4003 with 4903-9101 + 2902-9713 speakers. You could hear the whoop just fine, but the voice message was unintelligible with the loud horn.
@@Fahrenheit4051 there was also a 4051 outside the cafeteria, I don’t think it was working anymore though. After my Junior year during the summer, the entire system was replaced. The 4002 was replaced with a Napco Firewolf addressable panel. All the 4251-30 pull stations were replaced with addressable Napco T-bar pull stations (stoppers were put over them), Napco addressable detectors replaced all the 2098 ones, and all the NAs were replaced with Spectralert Advance horn/strobes. They also added horn/strobes to each classroom (on high volume i might add) and everything was on code 3. So basically, my senior year fire drills had these screeching horns that I basically have grown immune to now.
My elementary school was similar. The oldest part of the building (now demolished) was built in 1924, and the signals everywhere were the type at 0:43. They replaced these with a voice evacuation system sometime in the mid-2000's, and the signals are now SpectrAlert classic speaker/strobes. I would like to note that the Simplex 2903 was introduced in the early 80's, and thus weren't the original fire alarm signals at either of our schools. Pre-1970's, most systems operated on AC, and if the schools were built in the 20's, the original signals were probably large, black bells.
There is a Wheelock 7002T-24 at my work, which is really cool because I had only ever heard the "standard" fire alarms. I like the Wheelock better and this video helped me figure out exactly what it was. Very interesting to see a collection, thanks!
my elementary school used to have a Wheelock 7002T-24 in on of our two gymnasiums. I remember the strobe used to flash at around 210 BPM, giving it a very unique "quacking" sound.
The melody of mechanical horns :) My favorite is the 2903-9806 because it is my favorite and rarest device in my collection. It is also the older model with no potentiometer.
Oh this is awesome. I live in South Windsor, CT and have a very small collection of mechanical horns, since these were the alarms I had in elementary school and high school. Nothing can replicate the harmony of a long hallway full of 9838s. I made a small 5 alarm system to try and replicate the sound lol. Great vid! Cool to see how local you are
My former Elementary School had those 4903-9101 2901-9838s. For some odd reason one side of the building that had the K-2 rooms had the strobes above the speaker and the other side of the building with the 3-5 rooms had the strobe bellow the speaker. Also I remember they used to just go off with a solid tone but one year they switched it to the three burst/pause/three bursts configuration and it stayed that way ever since.
Sounds like my middle school. Some units had the strobe above the horn, others had it on the bottom. And they were on continuous. The three-pulse pattern is called "code 3" or "temporal", FYI.
I wanna say my school is pretty uninteresting, but me and someone on discord have thought that one fire alarm on the outside of the building is a wheelock FARR-LARM... not to mention, i feel like I have seen a TON of those just hanging around here in MN. I visited my great grandma at a retirement home last month and there was literally one of them with that plaque intact (albeit faded) and I remember driving by some church that had one too, but I couldn’t take a picture because we were driving too fast lol
Only one you have that one of my public schools did is the Simplex 4051, which my first elementary (now K-8) school had. They were VERY loud. They were mounted on 4050-80 light plates, and that seemed to make them sound even more harsh. Unfortunately the old Simplex 4208 panel started failing over five years ago and so they had to come out, and now they just have SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobes...
I do remember I saw the wheelock 7002 or 7002t in the small Mexican restaurant in the downtown Los Angeles. I seen it first time, so the wheelock 7002 have no fire lettering on the strobe and shiny sticker logo on the bottom one the og fire alarm… and bg 12 or bg12l pull station and red security keypad on the wall… this is like 10 years ago at least and I never seen old school simplex alarm but I seen it one old school simplex speaker in the hotel Laughlin, Nevada
1978 and 1979. I don't have them with me right now, but I believe they have the shiny sticker on the bottom. What other types of Wheelock sticker are there?
woke up in an absolute panic this morning when one of the old wheelocks went off right outside my apartment. it rattled my teeth in my skull like a dentist from hell. never even knew it was there but now i live in fear of its screech. i’ll be sure to send it to a collector if i break & rip it off the wall one day!
Unfortunately this doesn't answer my question. I know its possible for the A1 to be on an AV-32, but I want to know about the AV-34. I wish I could bold the AV-34.
Alright. Here's your answer! twitter.com/SpaceAgeElect/status/1116339019619680256 From the early 1970's! Those are just metal plates and not 4041's, but now we know the AV-34 was around at the same time as them. As for "bolding" an AV-34, they made one without FIRE lettering, so you could theoretically have decals printed out like they did for the upside-down TrueAlerts at Tunxis.
I love mechanical horns i going to set mine off on Monday its a 2901 9840 on a 4903 9101 strobe plate and i put tape on it its 85 db and it sounds like a train horn
I'M fairly sure the dorm I'm in has the Edward's horns without the strobe. They haven't gone off while I'm here, so i can only go off of looks, but they look extremely similar.
That one that didn’t have the strobe light the one close to the end my high school in Clovis New Mexico had and then I think the last two we had at the orientation school for the blind in the dorm and in the lobby area of the dorm sounded different on each, but those are the ones that I remembered do you got any more?
Yes, that was the one that’s the one I told you that I had at my high school in my hometown in Clovis New Mexico on my senior year. That’s the one but then of course we had short tones over the PA system as well but yes, that’s the one.
2:29 This is the alarm I hated the most and most of my schools used it. I'm autistic and hear sounds very loudly, and whenever this went off it felt like an electric shock. I still sometimes have nightmares about that sound.
The simplex 4903 with the 9838 alarm in the video the hosptial in Hendersonville,TN in building B there’s only 3 of those that still remain from the old system others were replaced in building b with true alerts building A had the same alarms on 2903 light plates but where Sadly replaced with truealerts there’s a 4903 light plate with a simplex bell on it and a wheelock E70 next to it building c is wheelock e70s which replace simplex fire alarms both building A and B panels where simplex 4002s replaced with 4010s building C was a 2001 replaced with a voice evac system they all got replaced in 2008 I saw the simplex 2903s be tested one last time when I was there and they sounded awesome
No offense to you alarm enthusiasts out there (I'm a mechanical siren enthusiast myself) We had one that sounded like the first one at our school, but looked like the one at 2:28 except flat with beveled edges. I'm not sure if it's how the alarm was designed, or maybe they had their volumes turned up all the way, but they were deafening being within 10 feet or even more. They had them in our bathrooms at ear height. We had to walk past them to get in and out of the bathrooms as it was an L-shaped hallway to get inside, and there was no way around this. (Practically forcing us to be within 1 foot of this thing at ear-height.) My brother almost lost his hearing when he was in the bathroom once and one of these things sounded for a drill. Our school is mainly autistic kids, myself included, and sudden loud sounds aren't really something that our reactionary systems can handle well. I got acute PTSD from it. It got so bad that my principal offered to tell me when they'd be doing drills so I didn't have to deal with being jumpscared by a deafening sound. She'd give me her keys and I'd go out and sit in her car and wait for everyone to walk out to join them. My acute PTSD went like this: I'd be sitting in a quiet space, and all of a sudden my mind would send me into a psychotropic trip where the alarm from our school suddenly goes off despite it not being anywhere around me, then it would go away. I'm really hoping it was a setting or something, or that the alarms they used were meant for large areas thus they were just misusing them, because I can't imagine why they'd be designed to be so deafening.
My elementary school had those 7002T-24 closed grill fire alarms set on continuous. They were replaced by Siemens UMMTs in 1999 when it was renovated. My school was built in 1973, I wonder if those 7002T-24 units were installed when the school was originally built in 1973 or installed later like in the late 70s or 80s.
I am trying to determine what model horns were in my elementary school. I actually attended two elementary schools (Larchmont Elementary in Tacoma, Washington and Evergreen Forest Elementary in Lacey, Washington) and both used very similar or the same horns. I "THINK" they were Simplex 4050s or 4051s and they were extremely loud. When these bastards went off, I nearly had a heart attack! I remember one time I literally jumped out of my chair! The Larchmont school had them on a strange code, I want to say code 3 but there were FOUR pulses followed by a few seconds of silence. Rinse and repeat. So it wasn't on march time or code 3 to my recollection. Evergreen Forest's horns were set on continuous. At Larchmont, each classroom had its own ceiling mounted horn, and I remember the main hallway had at least one with dual projector horns. Evergreen Forest had all of the horns in the halls but close enough to the classroom inner door that you definitely heard them. This was in the 1980's through early 1990's, and these horns were probably outdated even then. Here's a hint: I know that more than a few of them had that adjustment screw visible on the vibrating metal plate. Any thoughts?
The "strange code" sounds like code 4-4. Two rounds of four pulses, a long pause, and repeat. There's also the similar "code 4-4-4-4" which is the same thing but repeats four times instead of two. This code could often be found on very old fire alarm systems. If it had an adjustment screw directly on the plate, it was definitely an older Faraday-made horn (probably 5410 or 5640). These include rebrands like the Simplex 4051 and 4050. - Did the horns sound like dryer buzzers, or have a higher-pitched tone like the 4051 in the video? Only at one school? At both schools? - Were there some horns where this screw was noticeably absent, and did those horns have a round plate instead of a square one? - Were the horns on the double projector square, or triangular? This isn't super important as it could a be mix-and-match.
Wow! Those dual triangular trumpet simplex horns were the ones all over my grade school (Fall '77 to Spring '86). I could swear I also remember one or two Simplex 4051 units, as well. I think I remember one near the gym somewhere, and... maybe the dining room... or the auditorium. Anyway, that was ages ago! Great vid!
Did it get replaced?
A lot of CT schools used these. Laurel Ledge School in Beacon Falls had it along with Sedgwick and Conard in West Hartford. I hated this alarm the most because of how loud it was. I'd even prefer the high-pitched "cricket" noise over this.
Those dual simplex horns are definitely my favorite of all of these, mostly because they’re so unique! I’ve never seen anything quite like that before, so they must be quite rare.
Nah these are not rare in my school
My high school had 4903-9101 strobe plates with 2901-9838 horns on them. The strobes were actually on the bottom part of the plate instead of the top. All were on continuous. One strobe plate even had a Wheelock 34t horn on it. This was all on a Simplex 4002 system. Btw, this was a school in Milford CT
My middle school in West Hartford had them mounted the same way. Like the 2903's at Tunxis, some of them were on 4050-80 backboxes.
The larger gym still had a lone 4050-80 left, with a low-pitched -9806. The same gym also had a 4003 with 4903-9101 + 2902-9713 speakers. You could hear the whoop just fine, but the voice message was unintelligible with the loud horn.
@@Fahrenheit4051 there was also a 4051 outside the cafeteria, I don’t think it was working anymore though. After my Junior year during the summer, the entire system was replaced. The 4002 was replaced with a Napco Firewolf addressable panel. All the 4251-30 pull stations were replaced with addressable Napco T-bar pull stations (stoppers were put over them), Napco addressable detectors replaced all the 2098 ones, and all the NAs were replaced with Spectralert Advance horn/strobes. They also added horn/strobes to each classroom (on high volume i might add) and everything was on code 3. So basically, my senior year fire drills had these screeching horns that I basically have grown immune to now.
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WHAT HAVE HE DONE?
@@Fahrenheit4051THAT'S A 7002-24! NOT 7002T-24!
My school is so old, it has the original one of these....1970? ,the school was built in 1929, and has a plaque from FDR, NYS governor. 1:39
My elementary school was similar. The oldest part of the building (now demolished) was built in 1924, and the signals everywhere were the type at 0:43. They replaced these with a voice evacuation system sometime in the mid-2000's, and the signals are now SpectrAlert classic speaker/strobes.
I would like to note that the Simplex 2903 was introduced in the early 80's, and thus weren't the original fire alarm signals at either of our schools. Pre-1970's, most systems operated on AC, and if the schools were built in the 20's, the original signals were probably large, black bells.
@@Fahrenheit4051 True, didn't know all that, thanks for telling me. I guess they aren't the original
There is a Wheelock 7002T-24 at my work, which is really cool because I had only ever heard the "standard" fire alarms. I like the Wheelock better and this video helped me figure out exactly what it was. Very interesting to see a collection, thanks!
my elementary school used to have a Wheelock 7002T-24 in on of our two gymnasiums. I remember the strobe used to flash at around 210 BPM, giving it a very unique "quacking" sound.
Nice alarms.
Thanks.
@@Fahrenheit4051 you're welcome Man
@@Davesand2003 LOL
@@Fahrenheit4051 I just got a new alarm.
SIMPLEX 4903-9220
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HAHA Edwards 895B-301 Go BRRRRRRRRRR!
wheelock 7002s and 7002ts are my favorite 9838s are my 2nd
My elementary used to have Simplex 9838
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The melody of mechanical horns :) My favorite is the 2903-9806 because it is my favorite and rarest device in my collection. It is also the older model with no potentiometer.
I want them all! Nice vid!
Edit: my favorite combo is definitely the 2903-9101 and the 2901-9833
my favorite is the 9838s
I wish I could have one of each. Someday I will.
Me to
All of you will
I like all of the sounds of the alarms shown in the video
Nices alarma
Your neighbors must love you lmao. Nice video!
Oh this is awesome. I live in South Windsor, CT and have a very small collection of mechanical horns, since these were the alarms I had in elementary school and high school. Nothing can replicate the harmony of a long hallway full of 9838s. I made a small 5 alarm system to try and replicate the sound lol. Great vid! Cool to see how local you are
Good ol' mechanical horns, gotta love em'.
I love them too
Gotta love those 7002s!
yep
Ahh yes. The good ol mechanical horns
I got a 2903!!!
Hiiii!
My former Elementary School had those 4903-9101 2901-9838s. For some odd reason one side of the building that had the K-2 rooms had the strobes above the speaker and the other side of the building with the 3-5 rooms had the strobe bellow the speaker. Also I remember they used to just go off with a solid tone but one year they switched it to the three burst/pause/three bursts configuration and it stayed that way ever since.
Sounds like my middle school. Some units had the strobe above the horn, others had it on the bottom. And they were on continuous.
The three-pulse pattern is called "code 3" or "temporal", FYI.
I wanna say my school is pretty uninteresting, but me and someone on discord have thought that one fire alarm on the outside of the building is a wheelock FARR-LARM... not to mention, i feel like I have seen a TON of those just hanging around here in MN. I visited my great grandma at a retirement home last month and there was literally one of them with that plaque intact (albeit faded) and I remember driving by some church that had one too, but I couldn’t take a picture because we were driving too fast lol
The old alarms in building C were simples life alarm speaker strobes which got replaced in 2007
Only one you have that one of my public schools did is the Simplex 4051, which my first elementary (now K-8) school had. They were VERY loud. They were mounted on 4050-80 light plates, and that seemed to make them sound even more harsh. Unfortunately the old Simplex 4208 panel started failing over five years ago and so they had to come out, and now they just have SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobes...
2:28
that 4903 is yellowed AF
Floppy disc
0:28 kingston collection mall in kinston ma has these.
I do remember I saw the wheelock 7002 or 7002t in the small Mexican restaurant in the downtown Los Angeles.
I seen it first time, so the wheelock 7002 have no fire lettering on the strobe and shiny sticker logo on the bottom one the og fire alarm… and bg 12 or bg12l pull station and red security keypad on the wall… this is like 10 years ago at least and I never seen old school simplex alarm but I seen it one old school simplex speaker in the hotel Laughlin, Nevada
ARRRGH! Ahoy, Matey! I love your Fire Alarm collection, Me Bucko!
I had one of these in my collection, i dont know what even happened to it, i got it back 2017 or 2018. not even sure where it is to this day.
@@alexandersalarms5380 Cool. Keep up the good work.
That last 7002 was special… I haven’t heard one that “lazy” in many years. Do you know what year it’s from and what type of Wheelock sticker is on it?
1978 and 1979. I don't have them with me right now, but I believe they have the shiny sticker on the bottom. What other types of Wheelock sticker are there?
2:03 That’s exactly how it sounded when I was in elementary school. It always scared the crap out of me.
Did they look the same, too?
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Yes, they looked exactly like that.
I saw wheelock fire alarms
Simplex 2903-9001
The Edwards 895B-301 sounds like a pc breaking on the bsod or a motor trying to spin.
woke up in an absolute panic this morning when one of the old wheelocks went off right outside my apartment. it rattled my teeth in my skull like a dentist from hell. never even knew it was there but now i live in fear of its screech. i’ll be sure to send it to a collector if i break & rip it off the wall one day!
Yep gotta love the
Them
Unfortunately this doesn't answer my question.
I know its possible for the A1 to be on an AV-32, but I want to know about the AV-34. I wish I could bold the AV-34.
Alright. Here's your answer!
twitter.com/SpaceAgeElect/status/1116339019619680256
From the early 1970's! Those are just metal plates and not 4041's, but now we know the AV-34 was around at the same time as them.
As for "bolding" an AV-34, they made one without FIRE lettering, so you could theoretically have decals printed out like they did for the upside-down TrueAlerts at Tunxis.
@@Fahrenheit4051 Thank you~
@@Goldenrod636 You're welcome!
So the panel was a 2120 not a 2001
2:55 is the screw on it on the tightest setting?
The school currently in right now has 3. 4040s and all of the other ones are Gentex commander 3s
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I love mechanical horns i going to set mine off on Monday its a 2901 9840 on a 4903 9101 strobe plate and i put tape on it its 85 db and it sounds like a train horn
mechanical horns remind me so much of leslie train horns
@@Luke202-z8b they remind me of ducks or gooses
What voltage do they run on? I have a bunch for my man cave but never wired them.
All of the ones in this video run on 24 VDC. Do yours have any tags or stickers?
i seen one of those 9101 Plates before
I like all
I'M fairly sure the dorm I'm in has the Edward's horns without the strobe. They haven't gone off while I'm here, so i can only go off of looks, but they look extremely similar.
It's probably an Adaptahorn. Edwards made a ton of versions, including one that could run on both AC and DC at the same voltage.
Ah yes, the 7002t
there amazing
which ig there are two of apparently as shown here
That one that didn’t have the strobe light the one close to the end my high school in Clovis New Mexico had and then I think the last two we had at the orientation school for the blind in the dorm and in the lobby area of the dorm sounded different on each, but those are the ones that I remembered do you got any more?
Was it the one at the 4:49 mark?
Yes, that was the one that’s the one I told you that I had at my high school in my hometown in Clovis New Mexico on my senior year. That’s the one but then of course we had short tones over the PA system as well but yes, that’s the one.
I’ll never seen that kind of System Sensor alarm
2:29 This is the alarm I hated the most and most of my schools used it. I'm autistic and hear sounds very loudly, and whenever this went off it felt like an electric shock. I still sometimes have nightmares about that sound.
My school used to have the 2901-9838 with that faceplate on it on the first floor and then the 4051 on the second and third floors
My favorite combo has to be the simplex 2901-9838 on the 4903-9101 or the 9105 and the simplex 4051 on the 4050-80
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The simplex 4903 with the 9838 alarm in the video the hosptial in Hendersonville,TN in building B there’s only 3 of those that still remain from the old system others were replaced in building b with true alerts building A had the same alarms on 2903 light plates but where Sadly replaced with truealerts there’s a 4903 light plate with a simplex bell on it and a wheelock E70 next to it building c is wheelock e70s which replace simplex fire alarms both building A and B panels where simplex 4002s replaced with 4010s building C was a 2001 replaced with a voice evac system they all got replaced in 2008 I saw the simplex 2903s be tested one last time when I was there and they sounded awesome
My high school has all of these, plus a mix of the modern alarms
Tunxis isnt in CT is it? second one sounds just like the one in my early 90s (but much older) elementary school
It is. Did you go to school in Plainville by any chance?
@@Fahrenheit4051 Nope; Watertown. I've just heard of the college ☺️
No offense to you alarm enthusiasts out there (I'm a mechanical siren enthusiast myself) We had one that sounded like the first one at our school, but looked like the one at 2:28 except flat with beveled edges.
I'm not sure if it's how the alarm was designed, or maybe they had their volumes turned up all the way, but they were deafening being within 10 feet or even more.
They had them in our bathrooms at ear height. We had to walk past them to get in and out of the bathrooms as it was an L-shaped hallway to get inside, and there was no way around this. (Practically forcing us to be within 1 foot of this thing at ear-height.) My brother almost lost his hearing when he was in the bathroom once and one of these things sounded for a drill. Our school is mainly autistic kids, myself included, and sudden loud sounds aren't really something that our reactionary systems can handle well.
I got acute PTSD from it. It got so bad that my principal offered to tell me when they'd be doing drills so I didn't have to deal with being jumpscared by a deafening sound. She'd give me her keys and I'd go out and sit in her car and wait for everyone to walk out to join them.
My acute PTSD went like this: I'd be sitting in a quiet space, and all of a sudden my mind would send me into a psychotropic trip where the alarm from our school suddenly goes off despite it not being anywhere around me, then it would go away.
I'm really hoping it was a setting or something, or that the alarms they used were meant for large areas thus they were just misusing them, because I can't imagine why they'd be designed to be so deafening.
Scares me a crapping me off because I was like bruh those phones are allowed and every time I was at school this girl crap out of me like a truck
4:27 sounds like an shg but actually mechanical
The simplex light/strobe if you flip it it looks like a simplex truealert
My elementary school had those 7002T-24 closed grill fire alarms set on continuous. They were replaced by Siemens UMMTs in 1999 when it was renovated. My school was built in 1973, I wonder if those 7002T-24 units were installed when the school was originally built in 1973 or installed later like in the late 70s or 80s.
I am trying to determine what model horns were in my elementary school. I actually attended two elementary schools (Larchmont Elementary in Tacoma, Washington and Evergreen Forest Elementary in Lacey, Washington) and both used very similar or the same horns. I "THINK" they were Simplex 4050s or 4051s and they were extremely loud. When these bastards went off, I nearly had a heart attack! I remember one time I literally jumped out of my chair! The Larchmont school had them on a strange code, I want to say code 3 but there were FOUR pulses followed by a few seconds of silence. Rinse and repeat. So it wasn't on march time or code 3 to my recollection. Evergreen Forest's horns were set on continuous. At Larchmont, each classroom had its own ceiling mounted horn, and I remember the main hallway had at least one with dual projector horns. Evergreen Forest had all of the horns in the halls but close enough to the classroom inner door that you definitely heard them. This was in the 1980's through early 1990's, and these horns were probably outdated even then. Here's a hint: I know that more than a few of them had that adjustment screw visible on the vibrating metal plate. Any thoughts?
The "strange code" sounds like code 4-4. Two rounds of four pulses, a long pause, and repeat. There's also the similar "code 4-4-4-4" which is the same thing but repeats four times instead of two. This code could often be found on very old fire alarm systems.
If it had an adjustment screw directly on the plate, it was definitely an older Faraday-made horn (probably 5410 or 5640). These include rebrands like the Simplex 4051 and 4050.
- Did the horns sound like dryer buzzers, or have a higher-pitched tone like the 4051 in the video? Only at one school? At both schools?
- Were there some horns where this screw was noticeably absent, and did those horns have a round plate instead of a square one?
- Were the horns on the double projector square, or triangular? This isn't super important as it could a be mix-and-match.
4:27 Sounds like a Gentex SHG
where do you get the light plates from? eBay doesnt have anything
They are there sometimes. You have to be lucky to find listings though.
I like the horn strobe and my school has the same fire alarm h9rn strobe but louder
My school used the space age Av-32 + federal signal 450 (A1) but they are fat and loud
Did someone say mechanical horns?
THAT'S CHEATING! THAT'S A 7002-24, NOT 7002T-24!
The alarms are loud
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