Dear gods this topic again. Painful, as someone in his 40s and listened to the bullshit of 'get your career going first before starting a family!" Well, i have my trade sure - but my mom passed last year, and more than anything she wanted grandkids. Ill carry that regret to the grave.
That "advice" is one I've heard one too many times too. Something I learnt too late in life is that you shouldn't listen to what others think is best for you, but what YOU think is best for yourself. I've made my fair share of mistakes putting heavy emphasis on the former that it always felt like I was living a lie. Now I'm older but I've lost time I'll never get back.
"If we get artificial wombs, I'm making a coordinator." -DD A discussion I've had many times with my friends. It's funny to hear someone else refer to IVF as a Gundam Seed reference.
"Feeling Lonely?" me, reading wrong: "I Can Fix That" "oh damn" me, re-reading: "I Can't Fix That" "why have you done this dizzy" the rare non-phase dizzy-react, I strapped in and regretted nothing I wish I had the answer for this stuff, I feel pain when I see people suffer from this, and may be why I can't help but to go repeatedly chat to the people who seem skittish (although a few, not many, not even some, but a few, turn out to be insufferable toxic people) I will be forever thankful I was born with the power (or maybe it's a defect) of never feeling loneliness, I'm just here to have a good time and that's enough for me
Hello, I just watched the vod, this is right up my alley. I see we aren't very different in that loneliness thing, Dizzy. The thing with male loneliness is opening up and showing emotions is considered weak by both genders. On some sort of deeper level that when you actually do express emotions, you can feel like other people think less of you, treat you like you're brain damaged, fragile, stupid- worse. BUT other men will reach out to listen to you because they understand deep down, will listen to you in an isolated 1 on 1 convo and offer insight and actual interesting thought. ONLY ACTUAL male friends will be able to hold on to you doing this more often than once or twice ever, stay with you for longer, instead of just saying "maybe consider not being weak or going to therapy". Women will literally always look away and never treat you like a human being again. I noticed the best approach is actual apathy, no feelings expressed. I literally do not know how to meet or approach a woman without thinking behind my head that I'll be maybe perceived as a creep, a nuisance, a burden and I'll end up extremely hurt over and over again. I can only thank my sense of humor to have me ride through social connections and I don't really have issues with making friends with men, like at all. But what about the more timid guys? It's over. I have female friends even. I was almost married too, but that sure as hell went well. But in the end the best to do is not think, not feel, die a little inside and go on even if it makes my hair greyer too early. No one cares. No one will. I feel no purpose because I have no one to partner with, I just go on for no reason doing stuff to dim the head voices. Oh, yeah, joining vtuber communities kinda helps alleviate it. You meet cool people. But like with everything, women are almost nonexistent here. There's in fact so few, that they become instantly recognizable minor celebrities who often in time too go and become indie vtubers. And, hypothetically, GOD forbid you develop deeper parasocial feelings for a vtuber or something because that is just going around to bite back as major pain since, just like always, nothing ever happens and your feelings are misguided off the bat. I've seen a few guys go completely insane. Some even never returning. You can't connect to the person on the screen, that's unreal. At least not to any fully satisfying level. Unless you cope with not ever meeting the vtuber or something and enjoy that feeling for some reason, which I also seen people do. Overall it's great to join any sort of hobby based community and that's it. That works out. Let's go watch some more vtubers.
At least you can seek solace in the fact that in this community/nowadays in general, many people are at least as lonely as you, if not more :') Misery loves company and knowing that you're not the only one going through that is a sort of cold confort which is better than nothing
The bro alliance and homie confederacy is all we can truly count on. It is what it is. 60 years of societal conditioning has cooked our brains. I wanna say its a lack of trying but idk. Where do women even exist lmao
By only watching comedies and such to keep it from affecting your mood, you are only treating the symptom. But the cause remains untreated. Unaddressed. Unsolved. And festering.
You know its a bit cringe to say but before I started watching vtubers in 2019 I was holding women in real contempt and now I still do but at least they entertain me.
God, this one hits hard. Not because that's past me, but because I know there are a lot of people in that situation. Destroying people's mental health is so profitable in this age.
Really good stream Dizzy I thought it was just gonna be silly from the title but it was actually pretty serious and thought-provoking. No roomba for you though Thanks for the stream and take care Dizzy
I don't really know the solution to this whole thing but it is nice to hear Dizzy talk about it, other people noticing the problem makes me feel better at least. Thanks for the stream Dizzy!
I think you've got a good heart Dizzy, you're not obligated to be super invested in the political charged side of the issue because frankly nobody should subject themself to that cesspool more than absolutely necessary. This isn't an issue going away soon, but your empathy is appreciated anyway. Dizzylove
Thanks Dizzler. That got a bit real, but thanks for keeping it somewhat light. Whenever you feel lonely, just remember you have a bunch of weirdos on the internet that like you (no homo).
Thank you for the stream Dizzy, vtubers like yourself give me a lot of hope that there are more good women out there than I tend to think a lot of the time now WAGMI
Wait wait wait... Elementary school... And RUclips? And Dizzy is called a hag?! Then what am I? A fricking matusalen? Most of us didn't have internet and RUclips didn't exist at the thime. And I didn't even search it up what age is elementary school on the USA or Canada but I suppose quite young.
What a stream that was. I can't claim to know the right thing to do to fix the loneliness problem, but I know it's not online courses. I personally think being online as much as we could have something to do with it. Remember you only need a friend or two chat. OtsuDizzler
Hey, thank you for the stream, Dizzy. Things probably got more political than you would have preferred, but I think you did a good job of keeping the chaos in check. I guess people get riled up over this topic because it affects everyone, and they all like to think they have the solution; a solution that usually involves pointing at some other group and blaming them for everything. I can't claim to know a solution, but I do know your streams help people feel less lonely. Thank you for them, for caring about people in general, and for all the work you do to entertain us. Dizzy love!
I feel like as a guy, its not actually impossible to create your own z fighters because we all understand how rare those ride or die friendships are. Or maybe thats because i kept up with my middleschool friends pretty decently. Now connecting with women? I plead the 5th cuz i got no clue lol. Vtubing substitutes the funny woman friends ig
There are no solutions. We had interpersonal relations figured out for a couple thousand years and then women decided to balkanize in the past century and now all of human civilization is collapsing. People have not changed, Go read something from the average person in the 1300s and they talk about stuff you'd hear on someones podcast last weekend. Same stuff, different millennia. What has changed is governments influence on our lives, and social dynamics within that overarching government structure. Thats really all thats changed. Technology is neutral. The only thing that can correct the trajectory to total extinction is structural collapse of governments and rule of law, bare minimum. Its inevitable regardless. The system we had 200 years ago was sustainable, but it stopped being sustainable 100 years ago. We're just now seeing the visible signs of severe erosion of those structures after decades of rot. But whether be it by the people dismantling it, or it imploding under its own weight and corrupt incompetence, like we see now in LA, It will collapse at some point. But feminists will be the first to go extinct when that happens. They'll be looking for the man with the most toxic masculinity they can possibly find to shelter under then.
drats. late in the stream again. tbh im kinda worried with dizzy watching matt walsh and ben shapiro like loneliness isnt a general problem on *everyone* edit: just watching the VOD im proud of y'all chat.
Good talk. Don't worry Dizzy, VTubers are still a little more human-like than androids right now, you probably have another 3 years or so before we reach the Cherry 2000 point, and you're replaced as a psuedo-companionship unit: ruclips.net/video/zKkdgnDu3MA/видео.html , .
Full Societal Collapse, LET'S GOOOOOO! At least we can watch it alongside our favorite and not as favorite Vtubers. And Dizzy.
Dear gods this topic again. Painful, as someone in his 40s and listened to the bullshit of 'get your career going first before starting a family!" Well, i have my trade sure - but my mom passed last year, and more than anything she wanted grandkids. Ill carry that regret to the grave.
That "advice" is one I've heard one too many times too. Something I learnt too late in life is that you shouldn't listen to what others think is best for you, but what YOU think is best for yourself. I've made my fair share of mistakes putting heavy emphasis on the former that it always felt like I was living a lie. Now I'm older but I've lost time I'll never get back.
trauma dumping in a vtuber vod in current year
40 and watching vtubers? Bruh
@pineapplesodah it's almost as if quality transcends age.
@@MoparNewport Unc
The key take away from this stream is that Dizzy will have very good job security for years to come.
Thank you for looking at this issue Dizzy, I hope It wasn't too depressing. And DO NOT the roomba!
2:06 audio start
4:42 start
Us LoveBugs may be lonely but we have each other and our love for Digimon and Dizzy!
"If we get artificial wombs, I'm making a coordinator." -DD
A discussion I've had many times with my friends. It's funny to hear someone else refer to IVF as a Gundam Seed reference.
"Feeling Lonely?"
me, reading wrong: "I Can Fix That"
"oh damn"
me, re-reading: "I Can't Fix That"
"why have you done this dizzy"
the rare non-phase dizzy-react, I strapped in and regretted nothing
I wish I had the answer for this stuff, I feel pain when I see people suffer from this, and may be why I can't help but to go repeatedly chat to the people who seem skittish (although a few, not many, not even some, but a few, turn out to be insufferable toxic people)
I will be forever thankful I was born with the power (or maybe it's a defect) of never feeling loneliness, I'm just here to have a good time and that's enough for me
Hello, I just watched the vod, this is right up my alley. I see we aren't very different in that loneliness thing, Dizzy.
The thing with male loneliness is opening up and showing emotions is considered weak by both genders. On some sort of deeper level that when you actually do express emotions, you can feel like other people think less of you, treat you like you're brain damaged, fragile, stupid- worse. BUT other men will reach out to listen to you because they understand deep down, will listen to you in an isolated 1 on 1 convo and offer insight and actual interesting thought. ONLY ACTUAL male friends will be able to hold on to you doing this more often than once or twice ever, stay with you for longer, instead of just saying "maybe consider not being weak or going to therapy".
Women will literally always look away and never treat you like a human being again.
I noticed the best approach is actual apathy, no feelings expressed. I literally do not know how to meet or approach a woman without thinking behind my head that I'll be maybe perceived as a creep, a nuisance, a burden and I'll end up extremely hurt over and over again. I can only thank my sense of humor to have me ride through social connections and I don't really have issues with making friends with men, like at all. But what about the more timid guys? It's over. I have female friends even. I was almost married too, but that sure as hell went well. But in the end the best to do is not think, not feel, die a little inside and go on even if it makes my hair greyer too early. No one cares. No one will.
I feel no purpose because I have no one to partner with, I just go on for no reason doing stuff to dim the head voices.
Oh, yeah, joining vtuber communities kinda helps alleviate it. You meet cool people. But like with everything, women are almost nonexistent here. There's in fact so few, that they become instantly recognizable minor celebrities who often in time too go and become indie vtubers.
And, hypothetically, GOD forbid you develop deeper parasocial feelings for a vtuber or something because that is just going around to bite back as major pain since, just like always, nothing ever happens and your feelings are misguided off the bat. I've seen a few guys go completely insane. Some even never returning. You can't connect to the person on the screen, that's unreal. At least not to any fully satisfying level. Unless you cope with not ever meeting the vtuber or something and enjoy that feeling for some reason, which I also seen people do.
Overall it's great to join any sort of hobby based community and that's it. That works out.
Let's go watch some more vtubers.
At least you can seek solace in the fact that in this community/nowadays in general, many people are at least as lonely as you, if not more :')
Misery loves company and knowing that you're not the only one going through that is a sort of cold confort which is better than nothing
@@Heydelios Grim but so true
I've had these same feelings before and it's nice to have someone else share the same sentiments
I know that feel bro
The bro alliance and homie confederacy is all we can truly count on. It is what it is.
60 years of societal conditioning has cooked our brains. I wanna say its a lack of trying but idk. Where do women even exist lmao
By only watching comedies and such to keep it from affecting your mood, you are only treating the symptom. But the cause remains untreated. Unaddressed. Unsolved. And festering.
You know its a bit cringe to say but before I started watching vtubers in 2019 I was holding women in real contempt and now I still do but at least they entertain me.
I don't blame you. Before vtubers became as popular as they are. A lot of female content creators where very toxic and annoying
God, this one hits hard. Not because that's past me, but because I know there are a lot of people in that situation. Destroying people's mental health is so profitable in this age.
Thank you for this roller coaster of a stream Dizzy, it was a wild ride
One hell of a stream Dizzy. Go get yourself that Roomba and attach googly eyes on it. OtsuDizzy!
Really good stream Dizzy I thought it was just gonna be silly from the title but it was actually pretty serious and thought-provoking. No roomba for you though Thanks for the stream and take care Dizzy
I don't really know the solution to this whole thing but it is nice to hear Dizzy talk about it, other people noticing the problem makes me feel better at least. Thanks for the stream Dizzy!
1:25:18 wait there is a Gundam table top rpg? DIZZY your lonely, I'm lonely, let's play Gundam table top rpg. That's like too much fun.
I think you've got a good heart Dizzy, you're not obligated to be super invested in the political charged side of the issue because frankly nobody should subject themself to that cesspool more than absolutely necessary. This isn't an issue going away soon, but your empathy is appreciated anyway. Dizzylove
Thanks for curing my loneliness Dizzy
Should've watched the old guy at the end, Dizz. He's great.
Thank you for your work Dizzy
Thanks Dizzler. That got a bit real, but thanks for keeping it somewhat light. Whenever you feel lonely, just remember you have a bunch of weirdos on the internet that like you (no homo).
Thank you for the stream Dizzy, vtubers like yourself give me a lot of hope that there are more good women out there than I tend to think a lot of the time now WAGMI
Dizzy didn't even watch the second shoeonhead video.....
1:56:50 Dwayne is straight from 1889, he probably doesnt know what Japan is, much less anime.
And here we have another reason why I like Dizzy and kinda relate to her.
The Great Unpleasantness of 2014 and its consequences are with us to this day.
Great stream tonight, I thought it was just going to be a silly bit, but it was really engaging!
Wait wait wait... Elementary school... And RUclips? And Dizzy is called a hag?!
Then what am I? A fricking matusalen? Most of us didn't have internet and RUclips didn't exist at the thime. And I didn't even search it up what age is elementary school on the USA or Canada but I suppose quite young.
This settles it she is born around 2000, she is not a hag after all 😮
There's a Gundam rpg and Bandai Namco didn't market it to me?
Many such cases.
What a stream that was. I can't claim to know the right thing to do to fix the loneliness problem, but I know it's not online courses. I personally think being online as much as we could have something to do with it. Remember you only need a friend or two chat. OtsuDizzler
Hey, thank you for the stream, Dizzy. Things probably got more political than you would have preferred, but I think you did a good job of keeping the chaos in check. I guess people get riled up over this topic because it affects everyone, and they all like to think they have the solution; a solution that usually involves pointing at some other group and blaming them for everything.
I can't claim to know a solution, but I do know your streams help people feel less lonely. Thank you for them, for caring about people in general, and for all the work you do to entertain us. Dizzy love!
oh yeah things real bad a lot of us just wanna self delete all the time.
Did you buy into Gundam Assemble? Or was that another one that I missed?
Thanks for the stream and all the best!
I want to be with Dizzy forever
1:14:32 Turduckistan, that message is getting framed. Also shoe IS really heavy for some content creators.
42:31 Goleog, I’ve had a specific song in my head for a good amount of this. Take a WILD guess what it was.
hedgehog's dilemma from the NGE soundtrack?
@@goleogthais Close, but it’s If I can’t be yours.
this shit is why I picked up smoking last year. thanks for the stream as always
As a homie, Stop that!
I feel like as a guy, its not actually impossible to create your own z fighters because we all understand how rare those ride or die friendships are. Or maybe thats because i kept up with my middleschool friends pretty decently.
Now connecting with women? I plead the 5th cuz i got no clue lol. Vtubing substitutes the funny woman friends ig
Damn i wish id didnt miss this live.
Cannot wait for dizzy to react to Hag Maxxing
Not watching sad stuff? Coward
I exclusively watch sad stuff because it's the only thing that makes me feel anything
1:22:00 She just DID give some voices she somewhat agreed with. Of all the times to say this you chose the one that actively disproves your point.
I clicked thinking I just saw Mita and this was a MiSide stream
I need shut eye
There are no solutions.
We had interpersonal relations figured out for a couple thousand years and then women decided to balkanize in the past century and now all of human civilization is collapsing.
People have not changed, Go read something from the average person in the 1300s and they talk about stuff you'd hear on someones podcast last weekend. Same stuff, different millennia.
What has changed is governments influence on our lives, and social dynamics within that overarching government structure. Thats really all thats changed. Technology is neutral.
The only thing that can correct the trajectory to total extinction is structural collapse of governments and rule of law, bare minimum. Its inevitable regardless. The system we had 200 years ago was sustainable, but it stopped being sustainable 100 years ago. We're just now seeing the visible signs of severe erosion of those structures after decades of rot. But whether be it by the people dismantling it, or it imploding under its own weight and corrupt incompetence, like we see now in LA, It will collapse at some point.
But feminists will be the first to go extinct when that happens. They'll be looking for the man with the most toxic masculinity they can possibly find to shelter under then.
ShoeOnHead is amazing, hope you do more reactions to her in the future!!
drats. late in the stream again.
tbh im kinda worried with dizzy watching matt walsh and ben shapiro like loneliness isnt a general problem on *everyone*
edit: just watching the VOD im proud of y'all chat.
Good talk. Don't worry Dizzy, VTubers are still a little more human-like than androids right now, you probably have another 3 years or so before we reach the Cherry 2000 point, and you're replaced as a psuedo-companionship unit: ruclips.net/video/zKkdgnDu3MA/видео.html , .