Hey guys - we hope you enjoyed this little paddle into the world of 2.5G. Have you found a need/use case for it yet, or do you think a 1G connection is and will be sufficient for years to come. Let us know!
Cheers for the excellent content as always Alex, you inspired me to run a 10G fibre line from my computer to my router, just for the future-proofing, low latency lols 👍👍
Where dio I put this switch?? Do I put it in front of my router, i.e. cable from modem into switch then cable from switch int router? Or do I keep the current situation i.e. cable from modem into router and then cable from router into simple netgear unmanaged 1gb switch? Sorry for the probably dumb question.
For every residential we do, we go to 2.5G, and for businesses, we go straight to 10G internal. We use 10Gtek 10GBase-SR SFP+ LC transceivers for the 10G (fiber) and the 10Gtek SFP+ to RJ45 transceivers for ethernet. Although most don't ever get that speed because their computers are stuck at 1G, but we future-proof them for not much money.
If you dont want a bottle neck in speed you should go 10 gig to 10 gig and then use your 2.5 ethernet ports for 2.5 speeds then you eliminate losing your network speed while using more than 2 device on the small switch
To be more technical, it's an SPF+ module with the sole function to act as a SFP+ to RJ45 media converter. Both the fiber side and copper side will use Ethernet. In fact, coaxial cable was the original cable used for 10BASE5 Ethernet.
Honestly, 2.5GbE is a waste of time and money. Anyone who genuinely needs more than 1GbE should just go directly to 10GbE. 2.5GbE has NEVER been a standard, most definitely not an enterprise standard; as a result it rarely plays well with 10GbE equipment (especially enterprise equipment). Also, 2.5GbE runs far hotter than 10GbE. 2.5GbE is nothing but a "pro-sumer" gimmick, especially given how cheap good 10GbE equipment has become. With 10GbE you can edit videos directly off a NAS, at 2.5GbE (assuming you can get it to play nice, or that you only have crappy non-enterprise equipment) you simply can't edit videos directly off a NAS as the link speed is too low. The money people waste on 2.5GbE and then going to 10GbE would give them a very nice 10GbE setup in the first place with all enterprise equipment and they'd still have money left over. Its a case of "just spend the money on the correct stuff and do the job once because its cheaper than doing the job twice because 2.5GbE is junk".
Not really doubling your internet speed though is it. 2.5G is sick though, my MacBook only has a 256GB SSD so I keep most of my stuff on an unraid server...with 2.5G it just feels like local storage.
I am forever fascinated by the difference between British and American names for things. For the Brits loft is the same as the American attic. The British lounge is what Americans call either family room or living room. For Americans loft would be for instance a large room at the top of landing of the stairs that overlooks via a banister down on the rest of the house. For Americans lounge is the bar area of a hotel restaurant. Endlessly fascinating!
Nice to see 2.5gb becoming more consumer level, it might be worth getting another SFP 10gig adaptor for the switch and testing to see if you can achieve 5gb / 10gb to the top floor via existing Ethernet - then you’re 2.5gb ports would be less saturated with whatever other devices you have there! Interested to see how basic cat 6 cable copes with speeds above 2.5gb
2.5GbE has always been consumer - its never been an enterprise standard and its never been used in industry. Its purely a way to flow overpriced equipment to the public who don't know about 10GbE, etc..
Question! Our home WiFi gets some good speed on fibre 60-70mbps… however on our Work laptops often drop WiFi connection despite the internet itself not always dropping at same time. Provider has assessed and cannot see any problems with the line or connection .. all other devices are fine and does not have any consistency of time of day for drop outs etc. Only seems to happen when on MS teams video calls (have already cleared cache - reset app, used web browser etc). Any help appreciated as we are at a loss and would have to pay early termination fee to switch provider £££
I imagine you have already visited MS forums and tried the innumerable "fixes" in fluff posts that never actually get anyone any closer to solving anything. I won't either, but I can tell you some definite ways to get closer. First, experiment with the work laptops using a wired connection. If it works better, you have discovered that there is an analog communication issue involving specifically the wifi link between the router and the laptops. Make sure there are minimal physical obstructions between them. If you are using the ISP's modem/router it could be that it is just junk and you would benefit from buying your own high performance router and using the ISP's unit as purely a modem. Also make sure the laptops themselves have wifi cards that are fairly recent, or you may need a higher performance USB one to aid the connection as well. Good luck.
We had this in our org and it was due to the forward proxy that we use for web filtering. We just got the network team to bypass the proxy for certain urls that teams uses and its been much better since
Lightning fibre does. But I don’t think they are a national provider. Also this video has nothing to do with doubling internet speed. It’s purely for internal network speed.
@@techflow I would love to see a video idea of comparing different providers HBB speed for gaming. For example Virgin v EE ping tests on games like valorant, call of duty, Fortnite and apex legends etc.
Can you recommend any routers that can be used with virgin media new hub 5x XGS-PON connection type? I wanna move away from there supplied router if possible
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Hey guys - we hope you enjoyed this little paddle into the world of 2.5G. Have you found a need/use case for it yet, or do you think a 1G connection is and will be sufficient for years to come. Let us know!
Cheers for the excellent content as always Alex, you inspired me to run a 10G fibre line from my computer to my router, just for the future-proofing, low latency lols 👍👍
Where dio I put this switch?? Do I put it in front of my router, i.e. cable from modem into switch then cable from switch int router? Or do I keep the current situation i.e. cable from modem into router and then cable from router into simple netgear unmanaged 1gb switch? Sorry for the probably dumb question.
why dont you just change the switches in the loft to multi gig switches, much simpler. Also tidy all your wiring up, its a mess
No, I will be skipping 2.5G and going straight to 10G on the next upgrade. We have 10G internet for €25 here in Spain.
For every residential we do, we go to 2.5G, and for businesses, we go straight to 10G internal. We use 10Gtek 10GBase-SR SFP+ LC transceivers for the 10G (fiber) and the 10Gtek SFP+ to RJ45 transceivers for ethernet. Although most don't ever get that speed because their computers are stuck at 1G, but we future-proof them for not much money.
If you dont want a bottle neck in speed you should go 10 gig to 10 gig and then use your 2.5 ethernet ports for 2.5 speeds then you eliminate losing your network speed while using more than 2 device on the small switch
Shouldve Bought a 10 Gig transceiver for the little switch aswell to eliminate the bottleneck
To be more technical, it's an SPF+ module with the sole function to act as a SFP+ to RJ45 media converter. Both the fiber side and copper side will use Ethernet. In fact, coaxial cable was the original cable used for 10BASE5 Ethernet.
The most shocking thing about this video to me is the fact that HiSense makes AC/heat pump units
Honestly, 2.5GbE is a waste of time and money. Anyone who genuinely needs more than 1GbE should just go directly to 10GbE. 2.5GbE has NEVER been a standard, most definitely not an enterprise standard; as a result it rarely plays well with 10GbE equipment (especially enterprise equipment). Also, 2.5GbE runs far hotter than 10GbE. 2.5GbE is nothing but a "pro-sumer" gimmick, especially given how cheap good 10GbE equipment has become.
With 10GbE you can edit videos directly off a NAS, at 2.5GbE (assuming you can get it to play nice, or that you only have crappy non-enterprise equipment) you simply can't edit videos directly off a NAS as the link speed is too low.
The money people waste on 2.5GbE and then going to 10GbE would give them a very nice 10GbE setup in the first place with all enterprise equipment and they'd still have money left over. Its a case of "just spend the money on the correct stuff and do the job once because its cheaper than doing the job twice because 2.5GbE is junk".
Not really doubling your internet speed though is it. 2.5G is sick though, my MacBook only has a 256GB SSD so I keep most of my stuff on an unraid server...with 2.5G it just feels like local storage.
You’ve really inspired me to peruse a career in this field. Could you please do a video on advice you have for someone starting in this field?
Hey Alex, you should look about doing a firewall on your network. Little cybersecurity won’t hurt.
Enjoyable video. Haven’t got the slightest clue what you’re talking about, but sounds awesome anyway 😂😂😂😂.
😂😂😂
I am forever fascinated by the difference between British and American names for things. For the Brits loft is the same as the American attic. The British lounge is what Americans call either family room or living room. For Americans loft would be for instance a large room at the top of landing of the stairs that overlooks via a banister down on the rest of the house. For Americans lounge is the bar area of a hotel restaurant. Endlessly fascinating!
Yeah there is a whole world out there not just America.
Nice to see 2.5gb becoming more consumer level, it might be worth getting another SFP 10gig adaptor for the switch and testing to see if you can achieve 5gb / 10gb to the top floor via existing Ethernet - then you’re 2.5gb ports would be less saturated with whatever other devices you have there! Interested to see how basic cat 6 cable copes with speeds above 2.5gb
2.5GbE has always been consumer - its never been an enterprise standard and its never been used in industry. Its purely a way to flow overpriced equipment to the public who don't know about 10GbE, etc..
Ain't CAT6 maxing out at 1Gpbs, weren't CAT6A able to do 2.5?
Question! Our home WiFi gets some good speed on fibre 60-70mbps… however on our Work laptops often drop WiFi connection despite the internet itself not always dropping at same time. Provider has assessed and cannot see any problems with the line or connection .. all other devices are fine and does not have any consistency of time of day for drop outs etc. Only seems to happen when on MS teams video calls (have already cleared cache - reset app, used web browser etc). Any help appreciated as we are at a loss and would have to pay early termination fee to switch provider £££
I imagine you have already visited MS forums and tried the innumerable "fixes" in fluff posts that never actually get anyone any closer to solving anything. I won't either, but I can tell you some definite ways to get closer. First, experiment with the work laptops using a wired connection. If it works better, you have discovered that there is an analog communication issue involving specifically the wifi link between the router and the laptops. Make sure there are minimal physical obstructions between them. If you are using the ISP's modem/router it could be that it is just junk and you would benefit from buying your own high performance router and using the ISP's unit as purely a modem. Also make sure the laptops themselves have wifi cards that are fairly recent, or you may need a higher performance USB one to aid the connection as well. Good luck.
@@Kuro-Fumei which high performance router and usb WiFi cards would you recommend? Dont want to pay over the odds but it’s worth a go!?
We had this in our org and it was due to the forward proxy that we use for web filtering. We just got the network team to bypass the proxy for certain urls that teams uses and its been much better since
Thanks guys.
love networking videos! great!
Great video Alex!
good to see another upload. Are you going to vlog again?
Nice vid Alex, do you still have any mesh networks/nodes that you have featured on your channel before?
We've done roundups of our favorite mesh systems and are planning on some more soon!
At 4:37, why is the connection on port 4 being lost?
It's not. It's active. That light is probably a speed indicator. Because it's multi speed it need to tell you.
Cheers Alex 👍
I would like to have at least the fiber to the home
and not to the node/cabinet
I have a 67 Mbps down and 18 up
and when it rains it gets worse
So basically this house is just emptiness/walls/and cables 🤣
a house of empty rooms with cables just going everywhere...
Can i ask who your isp is? What speed do they deliver to your property?
Love to see your videos from Pakistan 🇵🇰❤️
Who does 2.5gb Internet speeds in the uk?
i would just need a 50mbps
Us 🙋♂️
Lightning fibre does. But I don’t think they are a national provider.
Also this video has nothing to do with doubling internet speed. It’s purely for internal network speed.
EFFERnet squad 💯
These network videos are decent.. we all grow up ere 😅
I've started running cat8.
Why? That’s so overkill
My condolences
The cheapest nastiest no name brand hardware - great work
We think your missing the point
@@techflowI think it’s just sarcasm mate. We peasants will always will find a cheaper options with the same features.
Can it be used as Multi-wan?
puts the price in the thumbnail then asks us to guess the price
I'm on 1gig with VM but dont know when Ill be getting 2gig
1.6GB is now available through Vodafone btw £70 a month
We tried to order the 1.6 with EE but were told no even though we have FTTP.
@@techflow I would love to see a video idea of comparing different providers HBB speed for gaming. For example Virgin v EE ping tests on games like valorant, call of duty, Fortnite and apex legends etc.
Will you be doing a Video on cctv /security please obviously only what you can show us 🤦♂️
Can you recommend any routers that can be used with virgin media new hub 5x XGS-PON connection type? I wanna move away from there supplied router if possible
not the cheapest but leolabs has a ont.. i bought one before rock solid!!
cheap and nasty switch
£20
First one!
Poep
there's no "F" in Ethernet !! pronounced "ee thuh net"
british 😛