Solo Wild Camp Ruined at Raven's Crag - Etiquette of Wild Camping, Does It Exist?
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- Solo Wild Camp Ruined at Raven's Crag - Etiquette of Wild Camping, Does It Exist?
It was my first solo wild camp in a while, I was so looking forward to it. Unfortunately it got ruined! Does the etiquette of wild camping really exist? I would love to hear your thoughts in the comments below.
Please let it be know, I DO NOT think I have the god given right to tell people where to pitch up. I'm just asking for privacy when I'm out on my camps.
I had planned the trip to Raven's Crag after the weather turned nasty up in Scotland so the plan was to do a solo camp here then push on and meet Matt & Martin the next day and head for a mountain tarn camp to do some fishing.
I got there pretty early and found nobody else up there. I had the pick of the spots. That all changed later on as you will find out in this video when I was faced with another group of campers who unintentionally disrupted my solo camping experience.
I'll also provide some tips and insights into the etiquette of wild camping and how to navigate camping near others while respecting nature and preserving the tranquility of our surroundings.
Etiquette of Wild Camping:
Wild camping etiquette is all about respecting the space and privacy of fellow campers. I'll share my experience of how other campers pitched their tents too close to mine, and discuss the importance of giving each other enough space for a comfortable and peaceful camping experience.
Respecting the Outdoors:
Preserving the natural beauty of the outdoors is crucial. The prohibition of fires on mountain or crag tops to protect the environment is a must. Please respect the signs posted on the way up to these beautiful spots for us all to enjoy. There were umpteen fire pits that weren't cleared, leaving massive scaring on the landscape. Come on! LEAVE NO TRACE please!
Creating a Harmonious Atmosphere:
When camping near others, being considerate and mindful of noise and behavior is essential. I'll share practical tips on how to navigate limited camping space, minimize disturbances, and promote a friendly and respectful camping environment.
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sent a few quid mate, hope it helps the channel. atb
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Your background music too loud to hear you clearly
Sorry to hear that Bob mate. I edit with earphones on you see so just go off that and then watch it back on the TV to see if it's ok.
Hope it didn't affect your viewing of the video too much, Ant
It's just the intro, rest of the vid is fine.
Thanks mate, I tend to put it just on the intros like you say pal
Nowt worse than Toss pots like that ant mate!!
Ruin everything everywhere they go!!
A genuinely think there should be a aptitude test for people to go in the countryside 🤣 imagine how quiet it would be bliss lad
forgive me, but i thought the etiquette of wild camping included the following advice -
don’t camp in places where there are specific signs up asking you not to.
pitch up at dusk or after dark
break camp at dawn or very soon after
you can’t just follow bits of the accepted etiquette and not all.
All that was followed by one. No signs to say no camping (there was for no fires) I pitched at 4.30pm, nobody was around for the hour I waited before pitching and the weather was bad . I was up at 5.30am and was away by 7am.
Wild camping at a spot where it's fine to camp (like in Scotland) doesn't require getting there late and leaving early. That's only needed when you're trying to camp undetected.
@@robinferguson8911that’s the point though. it’s not fine to camp there. it’s not scotland. and there are signs at the bottom of the hill asking people not to camp there.
@shortstop47 I filmed the walk up, there was no signs, unless you went up a different route Paul we'll have to agree to disagree my friend
My mates and I were wild camping in the lake district 35 + years ago because we were very poor and wanted to save money on the campsite fees. Bumpy hilly fields with no amenities 50p to £1.50 pppn.They were the most memorable and exiting holidays I have had.But we just enjoyed them and didn't try to promote it as a thing to do.The paradox is that RUclipsrs creating videos of this leisure pursuit have created the problem of too many sheeple doing this in too small of a space.Maybe avoid the easy to get to places and go a bit off piste to enjoy the peace and solitude that so many of us need
Hi Baggies, nothing wrong with that at all mate. I go out to get away from the stresses of my life. I camp, make videos and edit. That's my stress relief. I always try my best to do the right thing.
I've got a goal of places I want to camp and make film at and this was one of them. I did what I could to minimise the amount of foot traffic that was going to be up there by going during the week and it worked, there were three ither groups of camps that came with space left over to pitch at that weren't anywhere near me.
Big thanks for your thoughts and for watching the video. I appreciate it. Ant 👍
To be honest mate I'm 60 now, and been wild camping all my life, and I see no difference today in the amount of people going to those popular camping spots.Camping always been popular. Though I do see more people walking on the footpaths in these areas. I do avoid all that though, by using compass and keeping off the walking trail..
I wouldn't know Mik if I'm honest as I only started my outdoor journey 7 years ago but it does make sense mate.
Yeah best to stay out of the busy spits I get it. I have a list of where I want to camp and unfortunately that was one haha
You come up here! Eating our women and sleeping with our food...... 😆
You come round here, sleeping with our RUclips channels, eating our subscribers.... 😄
Remindsme of the scene after lockdown. The masses piled into national parks and left trash all over the place.
Hi David, hats off to the young lads because there was no rubbish left by them mate 👍 thanks for watching buddy
I was one of the volunteer who helped clean that crap up
I heard some of the people leaving trash where caught and fined
Awesome solo adventure man! Masterfully filmed and edited! 👏👏
Hello Ervin, thank you very much man, that's so very kind. Cheers, Ant 👍
We wild camp alone for the solitude. You have every right to complain. People are loosing their sense of respect for one another. Its sad. Thanks for your efforts to bring us some beauty. God knows we need it!
Hi Antonia, that's it! I for one get away due to stresses in my life, I way to recharge but maybe its my fault I went to a tiny and well visited place eh! I'm glad you still enjoyed it though, thank you. 😊
The problem is many of the cretins who went camping during Covid because Benidorm and Wetherspoons was off the cards carried on doing it. Sometimes better to nip it in the bud before they pitch up, ask them if they’re looking for a pitch, then kindly direct them far far away.
There was certainly an influx of people when covid hit. I had a beautiful spot where I used to Bushcraft and camp. Its was so well hidden but unfortunately it got smashed up when the found it. Big thanks Paul for watching mate and commenting 👍
I’m trying to keep it polite. Absolutely disgusting behaviour by them. Fires ffs. A couple of years ago the whole cliff side and the area where you pitch caught fire. 🔥 destroyed it. Now it’s grown back. Ooh let’s have a fire. I wouldn’t have been so polite I’m afraid. The idiots who had a fire when I was there were locals. It’s not on. I’ve literally walked a further mile because someone was pitched where I had planned. It’ll not be long before they start really clamping down over there. I hope your “neighbors”see this and have the balls to apologise on here. But they won’t.
Utter disgrace.
Other than that. Nice video mate. Those views. 😮😮 👍 Atb.
Haha! You did keep it clean Andy! Very well done and hats off to you haha!
Seriously though its right in what you say. I know first hand what a fire can do to a moorland. The Pennine's went up and burned for months a few years back, they could not stop it and that was through an ass with a BBQ. There's a time and a place for fires, we know this and so should anyone who as that idea in their head to start one.
I would do the same mate, there is no way I would be anywhere near anybody on a camp. As I've said on other comments, as you know there are more than one spit to pitch up on the Crag itself but there's a whole forest just behind that is gorgeous. Madness, utter Madness to use your saying.
It's very true, we are lucky to have a place like the Lake District that the locals turn a blind eye on wild campers. Stuff like this could change that.
Thank mate and big thanks for your feedback on the subject 👍
Yeah you can tell that the place had caught fire just by the state of the twigs (trees). It will take many years for it to get back to it's aforementioned beauty. But I doubt it will do because toss potts will keep harming the trees for kindling. Boils my p155 it really does.
@pshearduk hi mate, yeah there was a downed tree completely burnt out, I did some filming on it. Folks need to realise that live trees don't burn!
Thanks mate for sharing your thoughts, cheers, Ant.
@@AntSurviveTheNight mate, I despair sometimes. I really have no idea what goes through these idiots heads. You know what, I think it takes folks to be there constantly on weekends en masse to just be there and say NO.
@@pshearduk I always have a fire and there is nothing wrong with it as long as you are responsible. As for you calling anyone who has a fire an Idiot, you need to grow up. Fire is one of the most basic needs since time began. I would love some clown like you to try and tell me otherwise while I'm out camping.
I’m met a young lad out in the dales on Fountains Fell. He was unsure about pitching up as he was new to the game. pointed him to the best spot (which I planned to pitch) and took myself a good 500m away. It’s all about respecting the space and each other’s space.
A gentleman that's what you are mate. Good on you. Thanks very much for watching and for this comment, loved that.
its times like that I think to myself "you can't make this shit up". I bring earplugs...but haven't brought a eye mask yet.
Haha I know mate. I do have ear plugs but wouldn't wear them if there's strangers about. Out in the middle of nowhere I don't mind if the wind is up but not on a spot like this that's easy to get to.
Thanks matey for the watch and comments 👍
Just not on,but sometimes things are sent to try you.oh came across a great simple hack.when opening your packaged camping meal,open it from bottom to top for easier access to all the meal.can’t think of why I’ve never thought of that before so simple love it.👍
Hi John, they certainly are pal. Yeah I've seen that too, I must try it next time, especially after I forgot my long spork lol. Thanks pal
This is a coincidence as I was about to start a series on camping etiquette and the byelaws on Dartmoor.
I've no idea about the Lakes since camping isn't strictly 'legal' but common sense should come into practice when camping near someone else. I'd be pretty certain that campfires would be illegal though. The lighting of them in the hills and mountains, especially leaving scars, sheds a bad light on every camper regardless.
This is what gets camping banned and is likely to keep camping banned. You have every right to be angry/peeved.
Hey Si, ahh cool yeah go ahead with it mate, we need yo certainly spread the word about as much as possible.
No, we are fortunate that the locals turn a blind eye to it, the best part that is but this will certainly change if more people act like this.
There were massive signs on the way up to the Crag stating no fires allowed. There were umpteen scorch marks and charred rocks where people have had fires and even a hefty cut down tree that at some point had been set fire to.
Thanks Si for your input pal
Do it! X
Due to fires in these type of places many areas now have park wardens. Who also enforce the no wild camping rules.. This happened to a mate of mine in the Quantocks,Somerset. However they only patrol on the well known,well used places. So now he goes off grid, and away from those spots..
That's the risk we all run, makes it easier if we behave though doesn't it. Out of sight out of mind eh! Thanks buddy
Eyup mate, Jonny here. I've always meant to write a comment to you but seem to to forget each time. I've watched load of your videos mate, started last year with when you went to caledonian canal with canoe. It helped me in a huge way to plan me own trip and you and your brilliant videos have inspired me to start me own channel. my first been the caledonian canal in 6 parts. I'd love it if you had a look. I'm dead new like n don't have the best camera, lights and drone equipment but have always enjoyed the outdoors so thought, why not give it a go. I fully understand your little rant and think you did very well NOT to swear haha I love wild camping and canoein. I'm from Yarm north Yorkshire myself but live in Bavaria Germany now and I'd love it you're ever in this neck of the woods that you drop me a line and we can do a hike in to the Alps together for a wild camp. In the mean time it would really be an honor to have a fella like yourself give my channel a subscribe and like on videos. hope you're well n keep em comin, love your work.
Hi Jonny, oh nice one mate. Yeah a fabulous adventure that was, we raised an absolute fortune for the Alzheimer's Society. It will always be my favourite trip of all time that for those special reasons.
I wish you all the luck with your channel mate and yeah I'll come check it out.
Big thanks got your support 🙏
Omg to all those saying he doesn't own the outdoors, I don't recollect him ever saying that!! It's just common courtesy and manners not to pitch up right next to another wild camper. If there isn't room, you look elsewhere. If someone is at a pitch you had your eye on its tough luck, you keep looking.
Thanks Leeroy, your very correct there. Most of the negative comments are from people who have either not watched the video apart from the first 30 sec or they are Trolls neither concern me mate
Great insight into a suboptimal overnight, thanks for sharing. Hopefully the following night went a lot better.
Thank you mate, yes, well... the next camp started so very well but... I'll let you watch the video out next Tues 👍 thanks very much for having a watch buddy
Don’t worry Ant I know it’s annoying but there will be lots more camps mate 👍👍⛺️⛺️⛺️⛺️⛺️⛺️👍👍
Oh for sure Alan, I just wanted to make people aware, especially the people new to the world of wild camping. Cheers buddy 👍
What a beautiful place Such a shame you had it spoiled by noisy intruders . Thank you for posting Ant it's a pleasure watching your adventures I could never do that climb .
looking forward to the next Adventure .
Hello Tarmac mate, I hope you're well pal. Thanks mate. It was a tough straight up climb but quite fast really, I just had to catch my breath about 10 times lol. I'm chuffed you enjoy the content dude, means a lot Tarmac
Just watched you for the first time 😊 subscribed...so unfair of the others that spoilt your camping in peace ..great camp look forward to seeing the next video ❤ all the best to you and your wife ❤️ x
Hi Victoria, thanks so much! I appreciate the sub. Yeah I'm hoping to get some sort of movement going just to make new campers aware of others when out and about. If you can share and help promote this problem I'd be grateful 🙏.
Thank you, beautiful views still and such a stunning area to visit. Aww thanks that's very kind 😊
It's great to see folk getting out and enjoying the outdoors but I wouldn't be expecting solitude at a popular view point next to a path. These days if you want peace and quiet you need to get off the beaten track. A look at a map will give you loads of options for quality solitude. There used to be a few well known principles around wild camping etiquette like 'arrive late and leave early' and camping above the highest intake wall was generally accepted as good practice, but it seems like anywhere is fair game now.
As for other folk camping next to you - well, it's like parking in the Lakes. Folk arrive and the car park is full but they haven't considered a Plan B so they just park anyway. It's a whole new world.
Thats ridiculous Ant. This is the reason i never go to popular spots, especially easily accessible one and on a weekend. Shame it ruined it for you and well done for dealing with it 👍
Yeah not the best camp Benny mate. I truly thought it would have been quiet due to it being a Wednesday. I was prepared to camp in the forest behind the Crag if there were others already there, it wouldn't have bothered me too much at all. Thanks buddy for you view on it 👍
Stunning views there Ant, bloody lovely. Tank
Hey Tank, yeah beautiful buddy. It cleared well in the morning 👍. Cheers pal
Sorry that happened.
I would not dare camp close to anyone I wasn't hiking with.
Thank you Maywyn, me either. Cheers for your comment and for clicking on the video, Ant 👍
15:07 Absolutely. I hate that so much. Drives me crazy. I wonder if they picked up their trash as well. Thanks for another great video, Ant. Looks like an incredible hike. The views are amazing, breathtaking. Still too cold here for wild camping here haha 😂
Hi Rick how's it going pal, good to see you on. How was that amazing eclipse yesterday pal?
To be fair the place looked tidy, I've heard bad things about the litter up there but it was good when I was there last Wednesday.
Thank you pal I always appreciate your comments as you know. It was a short hike but straight up it felt haha! Yeah once it cleared the views were amazing up there dude. Ahh go get um Rick! Get a 4 season tent and bag and hit the camp sites dude! I need to be over there eith you for a couple of weeks, get out and adventure. I'm determined to visit you guys haha
So sorry your camp was spoilt by the thoughtlessness of others Ant.
We're not wild campers (missus likes her creature comforts too much, even under canvas lol), but we do pick more basic sites, and always ask if we can have a quiet corner out of the way if possible.
Probably like you, our camping trips are an escape from everyday life, and we just want time and space on our own.
On a more positive note, the views were absolutely awesome, and we're go grateful for you sharing them with us..... Thank You
Hi Ivan, thank you pal. Yeah that's right, it's a way to release the stress from what's going on in the real world. Yeah just the same, nowadays on campsites there's notices all round saying quiet after this time, does n dont's which makes you feel at ease. With wild camping it's just unwritten rules and the hope that other campers are decent and have done their homework.
Yes, the views were stunning in the morning which made me feel more chilled matey. Ahh cheers for the kind words, all the very best to you both!
Urggh what's wrong with people Ant? Etiquette or no etiquette, just some flipping common sense would do. 🙄 Hearing them on the video alone was winding me up a treat.
I had an issue once when out in the Peaks, it was around 12am and a couple rocked up, walked right past my tent with their head torches on full beam, chatting away and then pitched up round the corner from me. They then proceeded to shout and laugh for the next 2-3 hours. 🤦
Anyway, if it's any consolation mate, I really enjoyed the video. 🤷
Oh no that sound downright horrible Tricky. It's hard because you don't know who your about to have a "conversation" with, what type of people they are, if there's a few, you know what I mean. Hope camps since have gone your way pal.
Thank you mate, I appreciate that. Big thanks for sharing your thoughts 🙏
Hi Ant, just discovered your channel and i look forward to catching up on your videos. The tent looks perfect, can you tell me what it is?
Hi there Chris, welcome matey. That's fab, I hope you enjoy the back catalogue buddy! Yes, the tent in question is the OEX Bobcat 1 man. There's a link in the bottom of my description of this video if that helps. Thank Smash for watching and commenting 👍
You have a good old rant my friend 😂 it will make you feel better 👍
Hi Ant, you drew me in with that title and I have watched you before mate. Interesting yes camping etiquette. We are getting older🤣 we’ve probably forgotten what being a young lad is like 😊.
I too would not have been happy and I don’t agree with fires in those locations.
I usually camp in the Peak District and I went by Alpert castles and there were 10 tents mostly young compared to me and for me I’m not going to camp there as it becomes camp site and I don’t like campsites but I do use them when necessary.
I camped about a mile on from there in a location most don’t use.
You definitely have to careful about your spot in the Peaks these days to feel that solitude.
Anyway Ant I loved your chat and great video.
ATB
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Hi Dave, good stuff mate. I don't do click bait videos, I express within a title what's going on in the video and this one was very important for me to get people to watch this video.
I'm sure they were top lads but my point was that if you're heading out for the first time, just do your research before heading out the door. I spent months preparing for my first wild camp which you can watch on the channel matey.
I need to head to the peaks mate, do some exploration but first I'll again do my research on location ls before heading out.
Yeah I would have been nowhere near 10 tents either matey haha.
Thanks so much for your thoughts on this Dave, cheers pal 👍
Etiquette - it ain’t for everyone. Tragedy of the commons: when everyone is in it for themselves where the resource is finite (an analogy of the world these days) - remember the ‘First Rule’ of wild camping - like mushroom foraging, it’s best not to share too much information about where the best places to pitch are….
I thought you were about to break into the fight club speech then Freeforester 😆.
@@AntSurviveTheNight got it in one first rule - don’t talk about ‘site’ club 🤣🖐🏻👍🏻
@freeforester1717 lol!! Haha!
Nightmare Ant. I’m sure they could have pitched elsewhere and as for the fire there is no need for that especially if it’s not a cold night. Positive side, great views in the morning and the bobcat standing strong 💪.
Yeah wasn't the best camping experience Geoff haha. Na, definitely a time and place for fires for sure. No, definitely wasn't cold enough for a fire. Yeah stunning views in the morning for sure buddy. The Bobcat is my go-to tent with no doubts. Thanks matey.
Gutted for you mate. That would do my head in! Glad you got some views in the morning!
Yeah the views were stunning mate. That Crag is done now, ticked off so would only go back for a day trip I reckon buddy
Hey mate what about if you have a fire pit up there ? Like one you bring your self raised off the ground ?
Hi Mrunk, up there, on a Crag no way. It's like having a fire on moorland, no matter what time of year it is, I would not have one. Alot of this type of area are full of Peat which just loves a flame. Thanks mate for watching and commenting, Ant 👍
Enjoyed this video. Easy listening. Even with the moan 😂. New subscriber. ! 👍🏻
Haha! Hi Greg, thanks very much pal and welcome. I hope you enjoy the rest of my back catalogue. Take care, Ant 👍
Bit concerned about golden rule leave no trace with black hole from fire!!
Unfortunately Steven, there were loads up there pal
Good video mate. What kind of boots is that your wearing?
Hello mate, thanks very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it. The wellies are just from Aldi Solway. I use budget gear mainly and these are a part of the main cheap items I use.
Thanks again matey, Ant 👍
Well done for not loosing it Ant, the ignorance of some. 😢 Harry.
Hi Harry mate, they were bigger than me haha! Seriously though I would always be straight with people, if there was an issue or I didn't agree with something I certainly would have a word, as long as you're not aggressive when making your point then it's all good eh! Thanks as always Harry
And this is the reason I rarely camp in the lakes these days Ant , too many eejits for my liking . I like quiet and miserable on my own lol . Turned out at stunning morning tho 📷⛺️👍
Hi Dave, it's a real shame though isn't it pal, lovely up there and some great films you've made up the too man. You ain't miserable mate, you just like your own space as do we all. Thanks for commenting pal 👍
Use a bivy and tuck yourself away
Avoids visiting campers
Yeah I'm after a hooped bivi by Alpkit actually mate, it would have been perfect for up there. Thanks pal for watching and commenting, Ant 👍
Bang out of order those other two sets of campers Ant, fires and pitching too close are two of my pet hates. I was over Islay last year and got myself a perfect coastal park-up in my campervan, a 4x4 rocks up, parks right next to me (there were plenty of other places to park) and 4 lads got out and proceeded to pitch their tents in the front of my vehicle. WTF?? I went out and had a word and they were all like "Is there a problem? Where's the problem?" I ended up driving off and parking elsewhere. And for wild camping I always head somewhere I know no-one else goes to - and preferably midweek 😂 That area's been ruined with the fire pits, absolute bell-ends. atb DVS :)
Hello Donna, yeah thanks for that. That sounds horrible too what happened to you. Its not fair, you're there, they come a spoil it and I'm sure if you'd have stayed tge noise would have started. Sometimes best to just pack up. I was about to do that I can tell you.
Yeah it's was Wednesday when I went, it's one I wanted to tick off the list you see. Won't be going back.
All the very best Donna, thanks for watching and for your thoughts
Hi and if you can steer clear and try a goretex bivy, I used the Elan bivy on my first border wall camp video, it was drenched, see to believe, gone the Dutch army route since and been bone dry
Cheers
Thanks matey, cheers for the tips there. I'll have a butchers 👍
We had a camp last week when the same thing happened. Three lads appeared near us so I went to have a chat. "Is it OK to camp here?" they said. Noisiest set of *****s ever! Banging and shouting all night. We were packed up before they appeared and it was so tempting to start shouting ourselves in revenge - but of course we didnt.
See that horrendous isn't it Phil, if your there and pitched up then tough, they should move on, I wouldn't even ask. Totally not on that is it pal.
Just discovered your channel and subscribed. On my recent camp at Lambfoot dubs tarn, someone was there but did ask if I was ok to pitch? Obviously no where near him I was prepared to move on if not. We ended up chatting all night and he was a top bloke so things worked out. I visited Raven Crag on a day hike and what a lovely spot the views are amazing however look down from the viewing platform and the evidence of wild campers is obvious the amount of scorched grass where people have had fires was unbelievable. Does seem a place the younger campers go why they have fires is beyond me and I’m totally with you on that, it’s a shame the few spoil it, like you say camping etiquette seems to have gone some people just don’t respect there surroundings. ATB Karl
Hi Karl, thanks very much for the sub, I appreciate that mate.
Yes, all true what your saying pal. It's common decency isn't it to ask before pitching. If it's a rough night and there's tight spaces then sure, but it wasn't. Oh well...
Thanks mate for your thoughts, Ant 🙏
Just come across your video, new here. I totally get why you go up to a quiet place for the solitude and peace. I’m a mental health professional and spend as much time as possible in the countryside. Unfortunately I see lots of people disrespecting the great outdoors, but I also meet lots of wonderful people who respect their surroundings. I hike the Brecon Beacons (Bannau Brycheiniog) and people treat Pen Y Fan like it’s a park. One of my pet hates is the dog bags being left on a trail. Anyway, your view was beautiful and I’m not sure about you but just to get that perspective for a moment is worth the hassle.
Hi Treforest, welcome buddy and thanks for clicking on the video.
A hard profession you've picked I'm sure. Yeah it's a total reset isn't it when you go out and experience a wild camp.
A lovely part of the world to call your back yard mate. Yeah the busier places can be hard work and the dog bags are my pet hate also.
It's a place I wanted to tick off the list, I'm glad I've done it but won't be heading back in a hurry.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts bud 👍
Bloody shame to have your night spoiled like that. Two distinct groups of people that go camping at these locations. Those for solitude & those for the sesh
Hi Triz, yeah the majority think like us mate. A bit of peace doesn't hurt anyone. Thanks pal
Hi Ant
Cracking video mate.. been to Raven Crag myself quite a few years ago now..the views from there are just awesome...such a shame it was spoilt by some inconsiderate Ars..les... nevertheless at least you had a good camp...with more to follow with the other guys...👍👍 Enjoy !!
Hi Phil, how's things matey? Hope your well. Thanks buddy. Oh nice mate, it's a cool spot and quick to get to, probably why it's so busy eh! Yeah the views in the morning were spectacular pal, loved that but won't be heading there again any time soon. Look after yourself and good to hear from you.
I remember getting annoyed when I was last there last November, such a beautiful spot but bloody campfires all over and a load of rubbish left as well, which I had to take back. I noticed you took the very steep route up, a route I never take especially after my friend broke her ankle coming down that way about a year ago. I would not fancy tripping over that guy line in the night if I needed a gypsy's, as it is a big drop over that edge. Shame about the visitors, shame about the night and that whole crag was set of fire a canny few years ago by idiots lighting fires and such a shame they are still about. It was great to see you got some great views in the morning mind. Cheers Alan
Hi Alan, yeah they were all over mate, such a shame and really no need at all, none at all. The rubbish thankfully was at a minimum, not much at all thankfully. Oh boy did I Alan, it was OK really, I stopped a few times but made it up in no time. Yeah I always take the walking poles now pal, they really are a life saver.
I know mate, I thought I had more room than that, thankfully I rarely need a wee once I'm in the tent so didn't come out after dark 😉.
Yeah Andy just commented about the fore on the Crag a few years back, disgraceful isn't it, no need at all.
Beautiful views come the morning yes mate, it was meant to be foggy so I was lucky!
Big thanks Alan for sharing your thoughts pal
Really good video 👍
Thank you very much Matt. All the best, Ant
Hi Ant, great video, love them kinds of apps that involve phone a friend. If you are heading somewhere like that you don’t expect a party going on next to you either. My daughter will love the tent, thank you for the competition, I have already been roped into taking my daughter and her friend for an other trial walk and camp, wonder if you can get 2 13 year olds in it! And any excuse for me to get out really. Thanks again.
Hi Iain, thank you buddy. Haha yeah me too!
Yeah they weren't shouting or playing loud music, they had a argument then were just talking but could hear every word and stuff like that I'm not wanting to hear you know.
Ahh brilliant matey, I'm sure she will enjoy it and definitely not, you barely get one person in haha! Enjoy the trail run dude
Me my self I don't drink at all I love going out camping and been dead quite get away from the everyday noise and my 2 favourite things to listen to is the rain and the bird song
I have Never started a fire in the outdoors but I do like making big fires that are controlled and safe
That's your ideal camp buddy and there's nothing wrong with that. All the best pal and hope you stick around 👍
New subscriber here. Love Raven Crag. Walked up there many times while staying at Sylvia’s at High Bridgend Farm campsite. Great spot but slowly being ruined by idiots. Great video. 👍
Hi Peter, thank you very much for subscribing I very much appreciate it and welcome to the channel. It seems a lot of people stop at Bridgend Farm mate, I must try it out.
Yeah unfortunately that's true. Big thanks pal, Ant 👍
Nice one Ant.
Stunning spot.
Unfortunately there are so many ignorant muppets !!
Atb Graham
Hi Graham, thanks buddy. Yeah a beautiful spot, well used though so it's kinda like, been there, done that now, you know... thanks pal 👍
Theres no way i would want to camp beside anyone while on a wild camp.As for fires i dont see a major problem especially in winter when theres not much chance of it spreading in the damp climate but it needs to be small and cleaned up properly when finished with the next morning. Personally i dont really bother with them but i do understand that camping and campfires kind of went hand in hand,but there is great off the ground fire pits now that i would seriously advice camper to use and keep the fire off the ground .Most of all we all should respect nature and people's space...
The whole side of the mountain burned to a crisp a few years back. Killing foliage and wildlife. Google it to see the damage. There’s a time and place for fires. Up mountains in the Lake District isn’t one of those places. EVER. Even in fire pits. There’s zero place for a fire up there.
Hi Derrick, thanks for your comment mate. Yeah for me I want to be well away from people like yourself.
I agree with Andy I'm afraid. There's definitely a time and a place for camp fires. I've see first hand the damage it can do. We live very close to the Pennine's, and the moorland changed forever a few years back due to a guy who decided it was a good idea to take a BBQ up there and lit the whole Moors up. It burnt for months, countless wildlife perished, farms lost money, the cost of the emergency services working day and night must have been through the roof! They were using a helicopter constantly to bring in water. Big thanks for watching and your thoughts matey I appreciate it 🙏
@AntSurviveTheNight well summer time fires are just silly and dam right dangerous in such an area.
@derrickmurphy9859 oh for sure Derrick
@@derrickmurphy9859 it is not permitted to light a camp fire or bbq in the LDNP unless at an approved camp site.
One pet hate is fire rings right in the middle of flat pitches. It totally ruins the itch.
I never have fires anyway. Don't want sparks on the tent.
Yeah I'm with you there, there were two slap bang on the flats where we camped in the second night (video out now) so yeah I get you there pal. Thanks for your thoughts and for watching the vid, Ant 👍
The irony is it is because of people making RUclips videos about how and where to camp Raven crag isn't somewhere you should be advertising as a place you can "wildcamp"
Hi Egdop, good point made. Thanks very much for watching and for your thought buddy, Ant 👍
I have no issue with wild camping, but the amount of people advertising it and making it accessible for the masses is ruining it for everyone else. Also, Raven Crag isn't really somewhere we should be pitching up; just look at the state of the place. A big part of wild camping for me is going to these locations, looking at maps, and finding places to camp. TikTok is full of people giving grid references and parking locations to uneducated people who turn up, destroy the land, and leave a mess. Sorry to rant on your video btw 😊
I know there are no written rules per say, but even as a newby it’s understood if someone has the spot, you move on to somewhere out of sight at least. As much so you don’t hear each other snoring 😂
That's it Chris, it's more of a gentleman's agreement, an unwritten rule. I certainly wouldn't want to be near anyone, there were other pitches an the a forest full at the back of the Crag. Haha, I snore like mad too lol. Thanks Chris.
Well done for remaining so calm Ant. I would have been fuming. I'm sure I would have had to pack up and abandon. First one of yours I've seen. I'm now subscribed and looking forward to your next camp. Well done.
Hi there John, welcome to the channel mate, and thank you for subscribing.
Oh mate, I was starting to pack up trust me, it was chatting with Chris that stopped me from leaving.
Big thanks for clicking on the vid and for your comment buddy.
I'm subbing too
Thank you very much Phil, I appreciate you pal
You mentioned a drone,I appreciate the weather was pants and no aircraft would fly, but I am wondering about the rules of drone flying in a Low Fly training area?
Hi, hopefully I can help as I have been flying drones for years. The rules around flying a drone here are the same as anywhere else. It's not restricted airspace. It's prudent to check with NOTAMS to ascertain if there are any low level manoeuvres planned and at that times, but other than that - the normal CAA rules apply.
Thanks Chris for taking the time to answer pal, I appreciate it.
@@AntSurviveTheNight ruclips.net/video/x_xXAjsxsVM/видео.htmlsi=aqeoNCIXiQ1ibtZE. interesting.
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Always bring your own Raven!!
Excellent vid (intro music bit much). Comes in waves. No-goods turn up, leave a bad smell. But hopefully most of us, stay polite and anonymous. ❤
Yeah Sorry Leveller, I was OK for me but I'm the one who said and edited everything so apologies about the sound at the beginning pal. Exactly mate, stay polite and anonymous, I like that. Thanks pal
Sorry to hear bout that experience mate.Thats toung generation fr you..unfortunately..
Awesome views views though, great spot... Thats what i love about the Oex bobcat, I can sit up in it and enjoy the views ,whilst having coffee and cooking,eating 🙂. Even better when coastal camping .Have you done any coastal camps?
As a Army veteran ,now 60,still suffering with ptsd, i too take myself to these remote beautiful scenic places . Its very therapitic ,calming and relaxing for me.
Thats why now i completely avoid those well known,well used camping spots . And get off the paths/trail using compass,and find more remote spots.
I tried getting you coffee, wont let me,so will try later mate.
Yeah thanks Mik, yes, beautiful up there, that's why I wanted to go and thankfully that did work out haha.
Yeah me to pal, the Bobcat is reliable isn't it, a tent you can trust is the way I see it.
I've done coastal camps yes but not in the Bobcat. I'm heading to the coast soon in the new one which I can't wait for!
Thank you for your service Mik, you have done us proud and kept us safe so thank you pal. Yes, it's a place to just get your head back isn't it buddy.
Ahh no worries pal, it should be me buying you a coffee haha, thanks though for trying
part of the crew, part of the ship, all rules should be followed.
Just saw part of your last post Lee. I wasn't funny with them, I was honest. There was no reason to pitch so close apart from the views but they even pitched in cold wet mud which makes no sense. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
A ring of burnt stones complete with a load of broken bottles and tines ! Wonderful just so british .
The rubbish was at a minimum if I'm honest Septic but there was definitely way too many fire pits pal. Thanks very much for watching and commenting, Ant 👍
Unfortunate your camp got spoilt ant , but it's a good topic to bring up. Still a good video, love a good time laps shot 👍 thanks for doing what you do
Hi Neal, yeah we all have bad camps I'm sure buddy. I just wanted it out there so newbie wild campers do a bit of research first. Thanks matey for both watching and your comment 👍
I can’t understand the obsession with fires while camping. It makes everything stink of smoke and fills your gear with holes, and that’s before the big burnt holes on the ground.
I'm a lover of Bushcraft and survival. You never know when you might need a fire. I also enjoy a fire but I'm very, very careful on how I make it and break it down, where I have one and also when I have one.
Thanks Joe for watching and for your thoughts matey 👍, Ant.
You must've been annoyed, no tales from the tent! 😅 To me if there's limited space and it's not due to bad weather etc then it's well off you pop mate! And definitely turning up late is a case of snooze you lose! Should have said to them, since being released from prison my angers not as bad as it used to be, but I still carry my axe just in case...
Haha! I know right! I just felt uncomfortable, I couldn't speak so stuff like that go out the window mate. Yeah that's the thing there was other pitches and a full forest at the back of the Crag. I wouldn't pick a fight but I'd certainly say like I did about wanting peace and quiet. Haha, I'll remember not to pick a fight with you then Phil lol. Thanks buddy for the watch and your views on this subject 👍
Bummer, relatable. People in the outdoors with low self awareness are a pain. At least it pushes us further into the wilderness to escape them 😂
It does John, normally I'm away from people but unfortunately this was on my list to visit and as I when mid week I though it would have been quiet, how wrong was I 😆 thanks pal
A good video with an absolute right to moan about what you had to put up with.
Stonking view though in the morning. What a pleasure!
Hi Bourne, thanks pal. I thought so also mate, why should we have to put up with stuff like this when there's no need, just go find a pitch further away and everyone is happy eh!
Thanks mate, the view were stunning in the morning. Big thanks for watching and commenting 👍, Ant
@@AntSurviveTheNight It beggars belief that they pitched right next to you but,,, I suppose it’s like parking in the furthest away bay from the supermarket door, and the car park is nearly empty.
You come back and some pillock has parked next to you.
Some folks just can’t be on their own 😁
Have a blimmin good weekend 😉👍🏼
Yeah it may well be a comfort thing mate but they were two grown lads. I truly believe they were new to camping and just wanted the best views but camping in wet mud without the correct warm gear and pitching right next to someone else wouldn't do it for me mate
Nice location…Have fun stay safe.
Thank you Kenneth, you too pal!
Just discovered your channel dropped a sub. Christ some people have no bloody common sense or respect do they! We camped over Cannock chase last year doing a ghost hunt and the state of it fire patched everywhere no fire pits made no stones put round, litter and rubbish everywhere we cleaned up best we could of the bits we saw but carrying all the ghost hunting gear and tent in etc it’s hard going ruins it for people like yourself who just like the peace and quiet of it all. Now you get some right insert nasty word here people wild camping in particular sometimes you feel unsafe now with it. Awesome content tho gunna watch a few more I’ve subbed on me personal account too
Oh thank you mate and welcome, I appreciate the sub.
Ahh cool, I like the ghost camps, we did one last Oct at a haunted Well House which was fab! It's on the channel if you look back matey.
Cannock Chase is meant to be very spooky, Dogmen, ghosts Sasquatch...
Did you manage to see anything strange?
Yeah some people don't know how to be outdoors, leaving all sorts, glass, rubbish and scorched earth, no good.
Thanks again buddy and all the best with the ghost hunts, Ant 👍
@@AntSurviveTheNight Ow Brill ill have a look back for it. Cannock chase was very odd weve stayed there twice now first time deathly silent really windy hiking in soon as set up no wind at all no bugs nor birds no animals in sight that were really weird second time we had a ton of movement around us but with flash lights and night vision couldnt see anything also had a odd bell that was moving around us like a cat collar but we were really in deep very odd. Checking a place out locally friday night shant say name atm with how people are cant be to safe but thats going to be a real creepy one ideally want to get a weekend camp up bodminmoore at some point in the summer! Hopefully your next camp is less stressful and no tents flooding in not long watched your latest one unbelievable that weather was! All the Best Brad
Oh nice Brad, sounds like you had a couple of good trips there then. My mate lives in Stafford right near the Chase and me and Leon keep meaning to head down there for a camp, sounds right up my street that haha!
Oh nice, have fun then on the weekend pal, fingers crossed you'll see something eh!
@@AntSurviveTheNight if you do manage to get up this way ant check out the german war memorial we had some solid stuff by there emf was hitting reds the contact balls where lighting up etc,and the woods themselves are creepy as all hell itd make for a great video for you. Were pretty new to all the youtube but that video has done 1.2k views for us youd get some solid hits on it. Ive got a couple of maps of the chase were all the creepy sightings are etc ill have to send it you over, if you have a email for your channel at all. theres tons on there from aliens to occult worship ghosts and strange creatures
Raven Crag when I did the Wainwrights was one of my favourite fells, fabulous for not a lot of height, the only downside it’s too short a walk in, it saddens me deeply that Wild Camping is getting bad press for people not following Leave no trace.
It’s also very disappointing not to get the solitude, it’s the main reason I don’t wild camp much in the Lakes as I don’t know if I will be alone, in the yorkshire dales I know that I’m 99% likely to have it to myself which is why I mainly go there.
Real shame they didn’t do the right thing and give you some space.
Better luck next time.
Give you a sub, hope you can do likewise 👍
Hi Tito, yeah a beautiful area isn't it. Yeah pretty much straight up that way I did it, but didn't take long at all. That's it, people only see the negative press regarding wild camping not the good it brings. The majority of us do what's right and going back to the young lads, they did leave no trace because they must have packed up in the night and left because I was up at 5.30am and there wasn't a sign of them.
I need to hit the Yorkshire Dales, lots to see around there.
Thanks very much for your thoughts and support mate.
New subscriber 👊
Hello Teff, welcome to the channel mate. That's very good of you. I hope you enjoy the back catalogue pal 👍, Ant.
hey up ya moanin bugger lol. I can see your point mate. I once camped up near a llyn with my grandson Jack, and had it all to ourselves in the middle of nowwhere ( so we thought ) and over the next few hours had steams of people passing us ( this was in the middle of winter, and dark) they where either looking for a pitch or trying to get to a bothy ( which was the wrong way to get to it anyroad) one or our `visitor's` dogs tried pinching our food 😱. cheeky bugger !! Fires !! no need for one . I can see someone's had a fire behind where you where venting your frustrations.. 🙁We camped on the edge of deerstones ( pendle hill )a while ago . that was a fair drop indeed. now for the good news.......... Im out with the mighty bobcat tomorrow. ( sunday ) first time aswell. Lets see how it goes 😀. All the best mate. Keep smiling !!
Haha hi Billy! Great news about the camp out tonight pal! Let me know what you thought of it will ya mate.
I don't mind if they are passing you by it's the pitching up right next door when there's a problem. Oh gosh! I couldntxhavexa dog nicking my food, you know how much I love my food 😆. Thanks matey as always for popping on and commenting. Have a top night tonight buddy.
Really totally respect you and your channel but I could not hear the first minute or so of your vlog as the music was obliterating your speech. Finally worked out that I can see the words on screen if I press the correct button and then switch the sound off. Obviously am a newbie to this you tube stuff.
Great vlog just shows that the words 'wild camping' can have many meanings. Really glad you had the moan get it off your chest then reboot fer't next adventure. 😉Steve
Hi Stephen, thank you pal and sorry about that. I edit with headphones on you see, and then watch it back on the TV. I'll bare it in mind on the next edit buddy.
I'm glad you still managed to enjoy the film though mate and big thanks again for your comment Stephen 👍
Don’t get it my self mate, if you tipped up and saw a tent there, you wouldn’t even put your bag down, you carry on and find your own quiet space, all the hills and woodland in the Lake District and they plonk their gear near you. Disrespectful to you and the other guys disrespectful to the surroundings, bet if you’d checked they’d of not squared the fire away. Gutted for ya matey
Hey Steven, all true matey, all true. They was plenty a space back behind the Crag platform, the forest was beautiful and that's where I would have headed if I'd have got there late. There were a lot of scorched fire pits around there. I'd have at least hoped that they might have had the fire in a firebox or a trough but who knows. Thanks Steven for the comment dude 👍
I think sometimes some people don't plan for alternate pitches ,and are locked into to where they had planned in there head where they are camping
Quite possibly true that mate but to camp in wet cold mud, if that was me and even if I had my heart set on a spot, if it wasn't suitable for pitching I wouldn't pitch. Thanks matey for your watch and also your thoughts, cheers, Ant 👍
Agreed, it's difficult enough in this country to find peace away from other people. I'd be cheesed off too. You'll have to get Les her own tent to pitch at the side of yours! 😉
I was really hoping that because it was a week day I'd have it all to myself. Least I've got it done now, won't be back camping that in a hurry. Would do the forest behind for sure. Haha! You really think she would?
I go camping and my pitch is almost a mile from a public footpath. If the conditions are very still and damp I can hear every word from those on the path. People don't realise how far sound travels. This has embarrassed me a few times.
Lol Steven, I take it it's in the morning when the old stomach starts eh! Lol. Yeah wind can be a definite give away pal. Thanks buddy
Nesbits. It's why i don't wildcamp in any known spot 'anywhere' not just the lakes.
Hi Neil, good to hear from you. Hope you're well. Yeah the busy places and easier ones to get to are now off my list to the seasons change I reckon pal.
Well Ant,I am with you on everything you say and as for fires up a mountain,That's a no no and hope people like that don't spoil it for the wild campers who enjoy that time out and solitude. Glad that view was there for the morning to cheer you up fella. Leon,You need to get out with him,he is getting all moany on us but Ant,Glad you raised that issue pal. Great camp pal. Atb Andy
Oh,as for that talking map,I can't find it. 😂
I was in the mountains of Egypt getting a tan and drinking cocktails, pitching my sunbed next to others and not having a care In the world to ask if it's OK to sit next to them 😂😂 we will be out soon, just got a lot on, eg renewing my vows next month, and a few family birthdays etc. Busy busy haha.
@@Conny79🤣🤣🤣 sounds like a better option pal.. hope everything goes well fella and it does sound like a busy time.Looking forward to your adventures in the new mansion tent ⛺. Atb Andy
Thanks Andrew mate, had yo be said I think eh. Definitely don't want the Lakes clamping down on us folks do we.
Yeah the views in the morning were amazing pal, well worth it.
Haha! I know right, get him told Andrew lol.
Haha, get on to Chris mate, the app must have broke down haha!
Lucky bugga
He's always busy Andrew, sick of him having a life!
Nice views good vid shame about the idiots..having a go myself on Exmoor tomorrow...very inspiring👍
Hi Tony, thank mate. How did your trip go on Exmoor pal?
@@AntSurviveTheNight Hi..I had a great time thanks very hilly but good fun.
Found a spot with views and pitched..could see nothing for mies at dusk ..then a car pulled up below on the road and two guys dragged their kit up the hill so I stood up so they could see me , spotted me and claimed to my level and set a tent up 100yds away I thought here we go but to be honest apart from hearing some music they were quiet ..I packed at dawn and left👍
There are plenty of 'the high profile' RUclips wild campers who can't seem to camp without having a fire & are unable to leave the place as they found it so the fire you saw could quite easily have been lit by someone who really should know better. With the young lads pitching beside you they may have done so in a comfort/safety sorted of way & perhaps you would of been better on this occasion welcoming them & giving them encouragement & sharing advice & experience with them? We've all encountered the same thing I'm sure,last year myself & the Mrs were up in the Arrochar Alps in Scotland, literally the middle of knowhere & a guy pitched up beside us not two feet from our tent,we found it very strange to say the least but the young guy was really nice & was on a bike packing trip & admitted he didn't feel really safe camping on his own away from other's,yes he could of went to a campsite I guess but like I said we were in the middle of nowhere, perhaps these young lads were of the same thinking? Etiquette is a rare thing these days in all forms of life let alone wild camping so I'd not lose too much sleep over it matey.
Hi Andy, to be fair every high profile youtuber I know (and I'm not bragging) look after and take care of the outdoors just like I do. They know how to square everything away and leave it just how they found it.
For me, the two lads had their hearts set on pitching up on the edge no matter what, it didn't matter to them if there was someone else there, they just wanted the views but that's when etiquette comes into play and the whole point of this video really. It shouldn't be up to me to make them feel better, they asked me a question and I gave them an answer. They weren't fussed about my answer and stayed away.
For me it's,just a bit of common decency really. Big thanks pal for watching and for commenting, Ant 👍
Hi Ant , I'd be giving you a "Hi ok ?" and I'd be asking you first " Can I pitch here or du want to be on your own ? "
before I even pulled so much as a peg out..but i'd be on my own anyway if I was asking , if I was accompanied , I'd pass you by automatically as I hate noise from others as well if I'm alone
Tom, Oldham
Perfect Tom, that way I could have pointed them in the direction of other suitable spots mate, you can't do that after they had pitched up, hopeless eh!
Thanks for your comment/thoughts pal 👍
I must admit i think id have had to ask them to move. Not like its a small region with nowhere else to go.
Hello Novice, welcome pal. Personally I prefer not to get into a confrontation. I did tell them when asked but I'm not into arguing on a Crag ledge lol 😆. I truly didn't know they were pitching up as I thought they were sat behind my tent after coming from the other side of the Crag. They were arguing so I left them to it and turned on the radio.
If I'd have come out when they were starting to pitch I'd have said something.
Thanks mate for popping on and cheers for your thoughts, Ant 👍
Hi mate, I've been watching your vids putting the bobcat through its paces. Oex shld put you on the pay roll mate! lol, Think you've put their sales through the roof! Enough for me to buy one!
I've seen a few ppl making modifications. Have you done/thought of doing this or wld you say theres no need?
Cheers mate 👍
Hello Gordon, thank you mate that's very kind. Haha, if OEX are reading this then I'll take that job 😄 long as its no weekends haha.
That's great that you've bought one on my merit and recommendation. How are you finding it? Yeah I've looked into the mods and as yet not tried anything, I'll look into it later in the year as the temps start to drop again I reckon matey. Big thanks for your kind words Gordon 🙏
Loving it! It really is a great tent 👍
I'll wait for your take on the mods.
Keep dropping the vids mate
All the best 👍
@gordonowens080406 brilliant, I'm glad you enjoy the Bobcat mate. Thanks pal, will do!
Another lad I watch did a walk around this area in the summer during the day and the amount of rubbish etc that was left around the area you pitched up from campers was quite sad.
Yeah I've heard that Weller, there is just no need to leave your rubbish up there when you take it up, madness... just take it home with you!
Thanks mate, cheers for your comment and for having a watch. Ant 👍
Those views are spectacular and all over social media, unfortunately it attracts some reprobates, I often stay at Bridge End Farm down below and take a walk up there. There is always signs of wildfires and you would think rangers would address the problem.
That's it Michael, if the Lakes decide wild camping is out of bounds its game over. Rangers would be out in force. Rubbish thankfully was at minimum but the fire pits were ridiculous mate. Thanks for your comment Michael 👍
Why would you set up right next to someone with all that space🤦♂️
It's only got a certain amount of pitches to be honest VW but there were pitches to choose from instead of pitching with me. Thanks mate and I hope you enjoyed it. I appreciate your thoughts 🙏, Ant.
You be amazed at how many people see a tent in the middle of nowhere and pitch nearby, I've had a few do that over the years, never had a problem like but was just amazed why they would pitch so close.
Maybe they thought I knew something they didn't 😂
There's too many folks lighting fires lately, hopefully once the drier weather comes they won't be setting fire to the fells.
Hi Crag, sorry for the later reply.
Yeah it's very strange isn't it. The last place I'd want to be in I was wild camping (and this goes for being new to it) is anywhere near anybody else.
Fires in the right places are totally fine just not on a Crag or moorland, very dangerous.
Big thanks pal for commenting and for watching, Ant 👍
Hi new sub here. I personally believe these were not wild campers . Probably camping on camping sites where you pitch every so many metres apart. As wild campers always want to be away from others why it's called WILD CAMPING. Not public camping lol . Sorry they ruined your camp but you made a great video from it either way. Fingers crossed for you next time. I respect you stayed i would of packed up and found a private spot further away. Although i could almost bet you were tempted to. Great content.
Hi Luke, that's very much for subbing ti the channel and welcome mate.
Oh for sure mate, the definitely weren't but that's my point, people need to do some research before heading out the door.
Hopefully people who are new to wild camping will see this and look more in-depth into it.
No worries matey, it was a beautiful morning that's all I'm focusing on haha!
This was a two day camping session, let me tell ya, camp two wasn't any better haha!!
Thanks for your thoughts Luke and big thanks for watching pal
Love the bod cat tent
Me too buddy 👍
Had mine 10 years still going strong
I really feel for you, and it's a fine example of what respectful wild campers are coming across more often. What may seem trivial to some, your whole experience was ruined by inconsiderate people. Your video was shot at the notorious hotspot of Raven Crag, which a few years ago was in flames due to irresponsible campers.
Your right Richard, COVID brought a lot of amateur campers out of the woodwork, some learned the proper way, others just went out to get drunk and party. I hope they are few and far between now pal
I miss camping and I have to get a waterproof cot tent easier to get into 🤞
Hi again Phil. Least your getting out still mate, that's great!
Thank You
You’re right to be annoyed Ant…..What they did goes completely against what wild camping is all about! One lot pitching right next to you and the other having a fire on the crag, what are they thinking!? Diabolical behaviour! It’s people like that that give wild campers a bad rap. They have no thought of anyone else or the preservation of the environment. It’s a Shame it spoiled what could have been a nice quiet solo camp. ATB mate ⛺️
Hi Joe mate. Yeah I was not happy pal. I definitely think it was their first wild camp as they had t shirts on when they arrived, they did put a light rain type coat on after but I think the seriously underestimate the cold in the night as when I got up at 5.30am there wasn't a sign of them pal. They must have packed up in the night. Big thanks as always for watch Joe
It’s not wild camping is it really? Not like the old definition? Above the tree line. It’s fly camping. And with fly camping you run the risk of anyone coming to join you these days. Really well put together though pal. And fingers crossed for a better camp next time. All the best
If you have to dig a hope to have a poo it's wild camping in my book. But seriously, it's each to their own, i class wild camping when your out there and looking for a pitch to camp for the night a pitch that isn't a campsite. Thank you though Paul for your time in commenting and your time watching my video. These comments are all there for people to see who are maybe just starting out. Cheers, Ant
@@AntSurviveTheNight it's great to see so many people getting out though. All the best
💯 Paul
Shame your camp was spoiled mate, cracking views the next morning though hopefully that makes up for it. My go to comment for “are we alright here or I’m not too close am I?” Is park where you like but fair warning I snore like a bear with a blocked nose…😂
Haha Martin, the funny thing is I do snore like a bear, there many a time the wife is downstairs when I wake in the morning due to that lol. Maybe that's why the packed up in the night and went 😆.
Yeah stunning views weren't they pal.
Big thanks for the watch Martin
Overall fair points! I personally don't agree with the whole fire thing though. If there is no fire ban and if the people are responsible with the fire and the surrounding area while having a fire - there is nothing wrong with that. Whether you're in a woodland or on top of a crag.
Hi Ruhrev, thanks for your thoughts pal. Yeah, the fire ban was in effect up there, there was umpteen signs stating it. It's been set on fire badly q few years ago I believe.
Thanks pal for watching, Ant 👍
some absolute weapons about mate. I would have got up and moved to be honest. Its the main reason I hate going to well known locations. ATB Steven
Hey Steven, I appreciate the watch matey. Yeah thankfully it's the first time this has happened, probably why I moaned alot 😄. I thought about packing up and heading to the car but thinking about it I'd have headed to the forest behind mate as it was massive!
Yeah, it was a place on my hit list to tick off but that's it, won't be going again, we'll not for a camp anyway.
Cheers again for popping by Steven, Ant 👍
Thanks!
Oh boy! Thanks so much Olan, I'm very flattered mate. You are the first ever to give me a Super Thanks!! Thank you so very much mate! All the very best, Ant 👍
@@AntSurviveTheNight You're welcome Ant, it takes a lot of time and effort and takes away from your trip making footage for others ,thats why i put very little effort into it hahaha ...i appreciate the entertainment and even when i am out out i always watch outdoor stuff when i have a signal ATBM
@Olan... well, very kind like I say Olan. For me the recording and editing of the trip is as good as the adventure. I have a lot of stress in my life and this helps easy the pain.
Yeah I constantly watch outdoor stuff on RUclips haha! Thanks again buddy.
@@AntSurviveTheNight Me too Ant thats why i enjoy the solitude, fortunately i choose to work the weekends then get out when theres less people around and its easier to park 👌
I'm totally with you. My blood was bubbling while you were talking about them. Maybe a lot are getting the idea to wildcamp from social media and don't know the etiquette? In the other hand, most channels mention "Leave no trace". Maybe they are just selfish, inconsiderate.¥^$¥¢s? I Wildcamp to get away from people. Hopefully I'll be okay tomorrow. 🤞 Well done for trying to educate them through your video.
Morning Life Outdoors, thank you matey. Yeah who knows really but hopefully this video has gained enough traction to help with people finding it before the head out for the first time, fingers crossed eh!.
Hope your camp out as gone well budd, and thanks for watching and commenting 👍
It was a good one. Great views of the Lake District, Dales and Lancashire Moors. A hint of an Aurora. I first rebuilt a dry stone wall that had been pulled down to use as tables I think? Ended up carrying a carrier bag of rubbish. What's so difficult for people to leave no trace?
Sounds like a good one then matey. Least you brought it out with you, best way if you can fit it in your rubbish bag, thumbs up to you pal 👍
First time subscriber here. Must say I really enjoyed your camerawork. I wouldn't have been quite so polite and would have taken the Mr. Rottweiler approach (do you remember Brian Glover in Bottom?). "Why don't you two *&^^ off or you'll up down bottom of crags".
Morning David, thank you sir for the sub, I really appreciate it and I do hope you enjoy the back catalogue.
Yeah, I'm not one to cause a ruckus. They asked me if I was ok with them camping there I said I wanted to be on my own, they didn't take the hint, nothing I could do matey. Never mind, plenty more camps to be had eh! Thanks again David, all the best, Ant 👍
@@AntSurviveTheNight cheers pal all the best
There are a few honeypot sites in the Lakes where there is more chance of other people being there than not - I think Raven Crag is one of those. I personally wouldn't wild camp there because of this and if I did, I wouldn't be surprised if others turned up. I can understand your frustration mate but I'm not sure any young lads are going to sit there quietly all night because someone got there first (we were all young once!) Not good that they pitched so close to your tent though - better luck on the next one buddy!
Hi Jason, oh definitely mate and yep this is one. It's one that's been on my radar and just wanted to tick it off. I minimize my chances of seeing any other campers by going in the week rather than weekend. 3 groups of campers is better than 20 at the weekend haha. There were more pitches to choose from but I guess they wanted to be at the front so bad that they pitched at the side of my in cold wet mud which I couldn't understand.
Big thanks for taking the time to watch buddy and for your thoughts 🙏
Unfortunately in certain parts of the world the arse/countryside ratio is just too high
Lol Wallace, that's funny 😁 😂
@@AntSurviveTheNight nice of you not to object to that it wasn’t a national comment despite my name 😃👍 Had a similar but less extreme near Ben More. Due lack of self control AC/DC was deployed at full bung in departure. My bad.
@wallace-bv4rl 😆 no problem. Oh haha! Bet that woke the dead lol
Is wild camping allowed on Raven's Crag ?
Wild camping isn't allowed anywhere apart from Dartmoor and Scotland 👍