I don't have enough historical units to make it worth while I think. But I have done 4 other vids on Midway: ruclips.net/video/_BVbLnjzZbw/видео.html ruclips.net/video/vyjKgh7385k/видео.html ruclips.net/video/vF3AB2f7NwQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/GUH_XbavYrI/видео.html
The B-1 was able to hang around for a long time, carried a nice load, and could effectively replace several other aircraft at a time. They also had a habit of doing a show of force. That is, the bomber would do a low, fast flyby of an area where enemy was, but was hiding. That is pretty dramatic, and often convinced them to stay quiet.
There was a design proposal to turn the B-1 into a rapid response gunship as well. It would have a similar role to the AC-130 but would be able to get to where it was needed much faster.
Facts. Can attest that a low altitude supersonic pass is very effective at dissuading the Talibs from attacking, and in once case I can think of, breaking up an in progress attack.
@@likwidchrisI heard about that. A part of me would love to have seen that. I always had a bit of a love affair with the BONE. When I was a kid I used to fantasise about a BONE outfitted with forward- and aft-firing gun emplacements… like a trio of cannon in the nose, and perhaps one in the arse somewhere, so that it might tear up enemy fighters travelling at similar velocities. Of course, that was before I actually learned about basic ACM tactics, and before I learned that just because a BONE LOOKED a bit like the great-grandfather of all F-14s it couldn’t move like one, lol.
As one who participated in a few of these hot extracts in Afghanistan. The normal practice for the helo pilots were to land literally on top of the smoke source/ LZ marker to make sure you are not clipping trees/debris or possibly landing on an uncleared ied.
Should be PPCLI, not Royal Canadian Regiment. That's wrong. Operation Medusa. Canadian lead and NATO's largest battle ever. It's the incident where the US A10 straffed the PPCLI killing one and injuring 35.
That’s absolutely not wrong. It was one PPCLI Company (A) attached to the 1 RCR battle group. The company that did the assault on the 3rd was Charles Coy 1 RCR. Edit - oh if you mean who got hit by the A10, yes, it was A Coy from 2 PPCLI, not Charles Coy. And the CCP on the 3rd was in the river bed, not as far North as hey have it here.
Not to come over all milsim, but... [coming over all milsim]... Attempting to take off under the downwash of 4 x Mighty Wokka roiling the whole length of the runway ahead of you would be a one-way trip to the morgue for sure. A-10s should go first, then the Spectre, and the helicopters from their own apron if you need everyone to depart at the same time
The A-10 C in DCS does NOT automatically lower its gear at slow speed. It will beep and flash the gear lollipop to tell the pilot he needs to lower the gear if he's landing, but I think somebody was fibbing to cover for forgetting to raise his gear.
I've been commercially flying for 20 years and this is the first time I've heard it called the lollipop. My current jet, a Challenger, has it lol. Can't wait to use it with my copilot.
@@FlyingTexan I've never heard anyone else call it that, but they look like lollipops to me, especially the clear ones that light up, like in the Warthog.
Thanks for the video guys. Cap, on your comments about the 20 years of war and not being able to win due to the insurgency and the nature of this war. Absolutely agree, but I also suggest going to look at the stats for the full war. The total NATO losses for 20 years was matched by Russia before the end of March 2022 I believe (one month of that respective war). This is not to devalue the sacrifice or losses NATO countries and allies incurred, but to demonstrate how well of a job they did overall.
We won the war, it's nation building that killed us. Same thing in Iraq. Militarily we decimated them, nation building in a non Western country with an insurgency is near impossible.
How many of the GrimReapers regulars are/were pilots? Do you folks still fly? I think Simba and Matrix... anyone else. I have enjoyed the Afghanistan scenarios WAY more than I thought. It really shows the conflict very well. Hope you folks are not getting demonetized over it. Thank you!
@RPMZ11 2vp had a small element there at the time. Company sized I believe. I dint know what part they played in op MEDUSA but I know without a doubt the brunt of the fighting to include the friendly fire was RCR. Take care.
No one ever mentions Prince Albert’s Guard of the Royal Loon. Those guys never went into combat without ice in their pants. Their battle cry was, “Snowballs, eh!!”.
I'm surprised the A-10 model does not include the gun cooling/clearing cycle. The bursts portrayed are what is called "milking the master arm", where you hold the trigger and flip the master arm on and off, which instantly starts and stops the gun. Terrible for the system.
What boils my ass is all that sacrifice, all that heartache and pain of loss and it was all for nothing. We high tailed it out of there leaving the Taliban so well equipped and supplied with our best weapons. Crates of Barrett 50 caliber sniper rifles, NVGs, helicopters, strike aircraft and so much ammunition and spare parts to keep it all running. Makes me want to vomit every time I think about it
The B1-s were flying out of Al-Udeid Air Base in Qatar. I remember one starting it's take off run, afterburners kicked in then one of the engines went bang. Pilot managed to stop the aircraft and taxi it back in.
Hi Cap, now you’ve got the Wokka Wokka and Afghan in DCS thought I’d throw in a source book for ideas on reenactment missions. Immediate Response by Mark Hammond is POV account of the pilot author flying RAF Chinook ops in Afghan from 2003 out of kandahar and Bastion… interesting read if nothing else. The way chinook and apaches worked in tandem for supply runs and casevacs could make for some interesting GR’ing flying through the hail of rounds. Great vids, great team
Thank you for doing Afghanistan videos. You work really hard, and i appreciate it. Its interesting to hear your perspective i felt the same way when i was there. I was in a really poor place in afghanistan and the people didnt know who we were. It kind of shocked me. I was pretty ignorant, and I thought everyone had heard of 9-11. They were living like no technology had been introduced to them in 2000 years besides guns and cars.
The B-1B had a very long loitering time. As far as helicopters go. I've flown in a UH-1H Huey, a UH-60 Blackhawk, and a Bell 407 (civilian version of the Kiowa-D). I would like to fly in a CH-47 and CH-53. I could swear that there was at least an experimental gunship version on the Chinook.
Yeah regards the rear door - almost always open. The chap at the back commonly had a GPMG there to give troublesome locals the good news if so required.
Masum ghar was the name of the main mountain. Canada turned it into a major FOB after OP MEDUSA and is where the Canadians staged out for subsequent rotations. Also for those saying thst OP MEDUSA and thr dudes killed by the friendly fire were PPCLI thats not accurate. It was 100% RCR. 1 PPCLI kicked the proverbial hornets nest at the white school and the first battle of panjwai on 3 August and lost 4 dudes. 2 PPCLI had a company in country at the time of MEDUSA but were not part of the friendly fire incident.
I think it was the long loiter time provided by the B-1B. It could hang out above the AO for a long time. It might also be a little bit of politics, usually various units/squadrons or what have you find a way to keep themselves relevant. They find a mission they can fill and convince the powers that be to let them fill it.
@@saintuk70 Reports in mid-2011 suggested that a purchase of up to five P-8 Poseidons was under consideration,[53] while in January 2015 it was reported that attempts had been made to sell the Kawasaki P-1 as another possible replacement. Wikipedia
@@ivorharden yeah - that was all after the spending review, which was after the cancellation of MRA4. Such a shame are the MRA4 was a very capable machine. But us Brits are great a cancelling good projects
I was part of the J35 planning team working in the Brigade HQ out of Kandahar for this op. I remember the A-10 strafing the Canadian platoon, the pilot claimed their vehicles looked like a line of flatbed trucks in his IR camera. Also remember when the Nimrod crashed just outside the area of operations and we had to rush to secure the area and recover the wreckage. The Russians never managed to push the Taliban out of the area, despite their armoured vehicle advantage, due to it being mainly very rutted landscape from the crops they grew there. The Canadians managed it though but then switched to a highly defensive posture, which the enemy took advantage of on many occasions with IED suicide bombers. One dude had about 5 155mm artillery shells on the back of his bicycle and he simply rode right in the middle of a platoon harbour and detonated them. Nasty stuff.
Cap was wondering why B1 bombers were used, instead of A-10s, F-16s, or F-35s… Well the first reason is simply intimidation. I mean, if you were one of the Taliban insurgents fighting to defend your home, which would scare you more, an F-16 or an A-10 flying your way with enough bombs to level a building or two, or a strategic bomber flying your way with enough bombs to level the entire town in a single pass? The other resaon is specific to the F-35…being that the F-35’s first flight was in 2006, and it didnt enter service until 2007, so it couldn’t have taken part because there wasn’t any, aside from the airframe that made the first flight. Also, can I say how much I love seeing the AC-130 being used? Granted, I may be biased a bit, given that my uncle was an AC-130 crew chief, but still…
How did you get the infantry to continue fire. A few patches back ED broke the ground unit reloading from trucks to they go empty after a couple of minutes
I support or service men 100%, but this war just like Vietnam the only way you can justify that we won is the enemy body count other than that it was a complete failure. In Vietnam We would fight and lose 100 men to take a hill top only to give it back 3 days later. With in 48 hours of us pulling out of Afghanistan the Taliban had gained full control over the whole damn country what we fought for 21 years and lost upwards of 4000 killed and 1500 lost limbs or worse. Makes me sick !
I'd like to make a proper comment but given there's a Chinook involved I'd probably have someone correct me about it. Oh well at least this is a comment. 😆👍
ISAF was a NATO led mission. NATO was asked to take it on by the UN and the Afghan government, and it was authorized by UN Security Council resolution 1386 and then like ten further ones. And it was a defensive operation; the initial US invasion was done under the authority of UN Charter Article 51 aka the right to individual and collective defence, and they also invoked NATO treaty Article 5. The reason they could invoke Art 5 is that 9/11 happened in the US, which is covered in the article. Art 5 doesn’t limit where NATO members can conduct operations, only which areas are covered by the treaty if there’s an attack.
Can you reenact the battle of midway. From the Japanese side
Way to much would go into that and there is no w2 Japanese carriers in dcs
I don't have enough historical units to make it worth while I think.
But I have done 4 other vids on Midway:
ruclips.net/video/_BVbLnjzZbw/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/vyjKgh7385k/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/vF3AB2f7NwQ/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/GUH_XbavYrI/видео.html
The B-1 was able to hang around for a long time, carried a nice load, and could effectively replace several other aircraft at a time. They also had a habit of doing a show of force. That is, the bomber would do a low, fast flyby of an area where enemy was, but was hiding. That is pretty dramatic, and often convinced them to stay quiet.
Can confirm that a flyby from a B-1 is horrifyingly loud.
There was a design proposal to turn the B-1 into a rapid response gunship as well. It would have a similar role to the AC-130 but would be able to get to where it was needed much faster.
Facts. Can attest that a low altitude supersonic pass is very effective at dissuading the Talibs from attacking, and in once case I can think of, breaking up an in progress attack.
@@likwidchrisI heard about that. A part of me would love to have seen that. I always had a bit of a love affair with the BONE. When I was a kid I used to fantasise about a BONE outfitted with forward- and aft-firing gun emplacements… like a trio of cannon in the nose, and perhaps one in the arse somewhere, so that it might tear up enemy fighters travelling at similar velocities. Of course, that was before I actually learned about basic ACM tactics, and before I learned that just because a BONE LOOKED a bit like the great-grandfather of all F-14s it couldn’t move like one, lol.
As one who participated in a few of these hot extracts in Afghanistan. The normal practice for the helo pilots were to land literally on top of the smoke source/ LZ marker to make sure you are not clipping trees/debris or possibly landing on an uncleared ied.
Roger, we'll struggle to land vertically like that.
Should be PPCLI, not Royal Canadian Regiment. That's wrong. Operation Medusa. Canadian lead and NATO's largest battle ever. It's the incident where the US A10 straffed the PPCLI killing one and injuring 35.
That’s absolutely not wrong. It was one PPCLI Company (A) attached to the 1 RCR battle group. The company that did the assault on the 3rd was Charles Coy 1 RCR.
Edit - oh if you mean who got hit by the A10, yes, it was A Coy from 2 PPCLI, not Charles Coy. And the CCP on the 3rd was in the river bed, not as far North as hey have it here.
@@reccecs4 Yes, you have it. Talking about the guys who got hit.
1 ppcli had nothing to do with this operation. They had left country by the time op Medusa took place. The A10 hit RCR.
1 PPCLI was the first battle Panjwai 03 August 2006.
There was also 5 killed and about 40 injured in the friendly fire incident not 1
Not to come over all milsim, but... [coming over all milsim]... Attempting to take off under the downwash of 4 x Mighty Wokka roiling the whole length of the runway ahead of you would be a one-way trip to the morgue for sure. A-10s should go first, then the Spectre, and the helicopters from their own apron if you need everyone to depart at the same time
But it looked cool
It did look cool!
@25:52 "Dats some good going, don't hit us eh..?!" That was quality 🇨🇦🇨🇦 rite bud.
The A-10 C in DCS does NOT automatically lower its gear at slow speed. It will beep and flash the gear lollipop to tell the pilot he needs to lower the gear if he's landing, but I think somebody was fibbing to cover for forgetting to raise his gear.
I've been commercially flying for 20 years and this is the first time I've heard it called the lollipop. My current jet, a Challenger, has it lol. Can't wait to use it with my copilot.
@@FlyingTexan I've never heard anyone else call it that, but they look like lollipops to me, especially the clear ones that light up, like in the Warthog.
Agreed
Thanks for the video guys. Cap, on your comments about the 20 years of war and not being able to win due to the insurgency and the nature of this war. Absolutely agree, but I also suggest going to look at the stats for the full war. The total NATO losses for 20 years was matched by Russia before the end of March 2022 I believe (one month of that respective war). This is not to devalue the sacrifice or losses NATO countries and allies incurred, but to demonstrate how well of a job they did overall.
Thanks J.
We won the war, it's nation building that killed us. Same thing in Iraq. Militarily we decimated them, nation building in a non Western country with an insurgency is near impossible.
How many of the GrimReapers regulars are/were pilots? Do you folks still fly? I think Simba and Matrix... anyone else. I have enjoyed the Afghanistan scenarios WAY more than I thought. It really shows the conflict very well. Hope you folks are not getting demonetized over it. Thank you!
Matrix, Ali, Chris were combat pilots. 5 more were airline pilots. Rest of use are just nerds.
Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry not the Royal Canadian Regiment.
@RPMZ11 me as well. I remustered to the Air Force when we left Germany in 88.
@@RPMZ11 VP.
Was absolutely not PPCLI. OP MEDUSA was RCR. The first battle of panjwai was 1VP
@@adventuresofskadi7277
Apologies all round 72.
You're correct ...it was 1 RCR mit elements of 2 CER, 2 RCHA, 2 Feild Ambulance..
Gog Bless em!
@RPMZ11 2vp had a small element there at the time. Company sized I believe. I dint know what part they played in op MEDUSA but I know without a doubt the brunt of the fighting to include the friendly fire was RCR.
Take care.
And to think the Canadians didn’t even use their top secret moose cavalry… Which totally exists and is something I didn’t make up. …😁
When the RSMC shows up, shit is going to kick off!
Fun fact, the Canadian Moose Calvary use wolverines instead of K-9s!! 😂😂
Canada still denies the existence of the top, top secret beaver special force team.
No one ever mentions Prince Albert’s Guard of the Royal Loon. Those guys never went into combat without ice in their pants. Their battle cry was, “Snowballs, eh!!”.
I Know that area very well. Great job boys
🇨🇦 Army Veteran
Saw an AC130 and A10 team downrange in 2012/2013 and in training both incidents was quite an experience
I have never not seen a chinook fly with the ramp closed
Jesus. This may’ve been the simulation that best illustrated what it’s like operating under proper battlefield conditions.
I'm surprised the A-10 model does not include the gun cooling/clearing cycle. The bursts portrayed are what is called "milking the master arm", where you hold the trigger and flip the master arm on and off, which instantly starts and stops the gun. Terrible for the system.
thx
Giggity 😂
What boils my ass is all that sacrifice, all that heartache and pain of loss and it was all for nothing. We high tailed it out of there leaving the Taliban so well equipped and supplied with our best weapons. Crates of Barrett 50 caliber sniper rifles, NVGs, helicopters, strike aircraft and so much ammunition and spare parts to keep it all running. Makes me want to vomit every time I think about it
Plus, you know the Chinese went in and bought up at least one example of every piece of military kit that was left over there.
Haven’t won a war since WW2…but MIC and banks got rich, so all is well 😡
Watching your channel is like an inspiring adventure that never ends. Keep leading us into the wonderful world of your creativity!🛼🔥🏖
The B1-s were flying out of Al-Udeid Air Base in Qatar. I remember one starting it's take off run, afterburners kicked in then one of the engines went bang. Pilot managed to stop the aircraft and taxi it back in.
thx
Hi Cap, now you’ve got the Wokka Wokka and Afghan in DCS thought I’d throw in a source book for ideas on reenactment missions. Immediate Response by Mark Hammond is POV account of the pilot author flying RAF Chinook ops in Afghan from 2003 out of kandahar and Bastion… interesting read if nothing else. The way chinook and apaches worked in tandem for supply runs and casevacs could make for some interesting GR’ing flying through the hail of rounds. Great vids, great team
Thanks Jonny
Doing some great content GR. Thank you.
Funny, I recall that almost every plant around KAF was grown on a farm, almost looked in the sim like trees.
Thank you for doing Afghanistan videos. You work really hard, and i appreciate it. Its interesting to hear your perspective i felt the same way when i was there. I was in a really poor place in afghanistan and the people didnt know who we were. It kind of shocked me. I was pretty ignorant, and I thought everyone had heard of 9-11. They were living like no technology had been introduced to them in 2000 years besides guns and cars.
The B-1B had a very long loitering time.
As far as helicopters go. I've flown in a UH-1H Huey, a UH-60 Blackhawk, and a Bell 407 (civilian version of the Kiowa-D). I would like to fly in a CH-47 and CH-53.
I could swear that there was at least an experimental gunship version on the Chinook.
Way more fun to watch than 8bit,watchin all ya vids
Yeh 8-bit not so good.
Back in simpler times.
Yeah regards the rear door - almost always open. The chap at the back commonly had a GPMG there to give troublesome locals the good news if so required.
Masum ghar was the name of the main mountain. Canada turned it into a major FOB after OP MEDUSA and is where the Canadians staged out for subsequent rotations.
Also for those saying thst OP MEDUSA and thr dudes killed by the friendly fire were PPCLI thats not accurate. It was 100% RCR. 1 PPCLI kicked the proverbial hornets nest at the white school and the first battle of panjwai on 3 August and lost 4 dudes. 2 PPCLI had a company in country at the time of MEDUSA but were not part of the friendly fire incident.
Thanks!
I think it was the long loiter time provided by the B-1B. It could hang out above the AO for a long time. It might also be a little bit of politics, usually various units/squadrons or what have you find a way to keep themselves relevant. They find a mission they can fill and convince the powers that be to let them fill it.
Nimrod was a great but old aircraft, they would of still been flying as a maritime patrol role but the program was cancelled for the P8 poseidon.
Nimrod wasn't cancelled for the P8, the P8 was eventually purchased, five years after cancellation, to fill the MRA4 gap.
@@saintuk70 Reports in mid-2011 suggested that a purchase of up to five P-8 Poseidons was under consideration,[53] while in January 2015 it was reported that attempts had been made to sell the Kawasaki P-1 as another possible replacement. Wikipedia
@@ivorharden yeah - that was all after the spending review, which was after the cancellation of MRA4. Such a shame are the MRA4 was a very capable machine. But us Brits are great a cancelling good projects
@saintuk70 yep.... tsr2, cva01, p1154, just to name a few.
So much daka, what is mankind to do against such flashy bits
I was part of the J35 planning team working in the Brigade HQ out of Kandahar for this op. I remember the A-10 strafing the Canadian platoon, the pilot claimed their vehicles looked like a line of flatbed trucks in his IR camera. Also remember when the Nimrod crashed just outside the area of operations and we had to rush to secure the area and recover the wreckage. The Russians never managed to push the Taliban out of the area, despite their armoured vehicle advantage, due to it being mainly very rutted landscape from the crops they grew there. The Canadians managed it though but then switched to a highly defensive posture, which the enemy took advantage of on many occasions with IED suicide bombers. One dude had about 5 155mm artillery shells on the back of his bicycle and he simply rode right in the middle of a platoon harbour and detonated them. Nasty stuff.
Kandahar is an international airport and funily its initials are KIA
lols
Air Superiority doesn't win wars.
🇻🇳 🇦🇫
Yup, Vietnam, Korea, Gulf, Houthis (recent),…but at least Lockheed make a sh*t ton of $$
Cap was wondering why B1 bombers were used, instead of A-10s, F-16s, or F-35s…
Well the first reason is simply intimidation. I mean, if you were one of the Taliban insurgents fighting to defend your home, which would scare you more, an F-16 or an A-10 flying your way with enough bombs to level a building or two, or a strategic bomber flying your way with enough bombs to level the entire town in a single pass?
The other resaon is specific to the F-35…being that the F-35’s first flight was in 2006, and it didnt enter service until 2007, so it couldn’t have taken part because there wasn’t any, aside from the airframe that made the first flight.
Also, can I say how much I love seeing the AC-130 being used? Granted, I may be biased a bit, given that my uncle was an AC-130 crew chief, but still…
Awesome thanks!
'free' practical training
Wasn't the Nimrod based on the De Havilland Comet?
Yup.
All b52s where being upgraded 2006 to 2010
Just imagine night being pinned down by fire and seeing cap and the boys and that gaggle come over the mountain ridge bahahahhahah
And then accidently crashing... oof
at the risk of being accused of pedantry, Battalion is abbreviated as Bn not Btl
So how does the chinook do the collective? I'm asking as a curiosity about real life. It's it all automated?
They don't call it collective. It's thrust in the Chinook. It's a handle instead of a lever action.
@@WyvernFalken so they pull a lever back and it goes up? How is it controlled like when it tilts forward to accelerate or back to slow?
B1 flying out of Qatar during Afghanistan war.
thx
First time on a CH 47 that day deploying from KAF to the Nimrod crash as part of 34 sqn RAF Regiment.
How much time is required to be put down in order to fully enjoy DCS? I know that you can spend alot of money and what not on it. But time wise?
How did you get the infantry to continue fire. A few patches back ED broke the ground unit reloading from trucks to they go empty after a couple of minutes
BRRRRT!
That is all.
Way to start a video!
Operation freedom? Hell yeah
I'm 10th mountain 132 aco 1st plt
:)
Re B1 and many other choices is there some factor of we want to use our toys and see how they work in the real world?
I support or service men 100%, but this war just like Vietnam the only way you can justify that we won is the enemy body count other than that it was a complete failure. In Vietnam We would fight and lose 100 men to take a hill top only to give it back 3 days later. With in 48 hours of us pulling out of Afghanistan the Taliban had gained full control over the whole damn country what we fought for 21 years and lost upwards of 4000 killed and 1500 lost limbs or worse. Makes me sick !
It would be nice to have an AI AC-130 in game.
Agreed
Afghanistan war was Britain's Vientam, much like it was Soviet Union's Vientam in the 80s. And America's Vientam Part Deux.
I'd like to make a proper comment but given there's a Chinook involved I'd probably have someone correct me about it.
Oh well at least this is a comment. 😆👍
Don't worry, I know nothing about it either.
Its what was available on loiter at the time when your in the doodoo anything will do
Nato? It says isaf on Wikipedia? How can it be Nato when not in european theatre and Nato is purely defensive alliance?
ISAF was a NATO led mission. NATO was asked to take it on by the UN and the Afghan government, and it was authorized by UN Security Council resolution 1386 and then like ten further ones. And it was a defensive operation; the initial US invasion was done under the authority of UN Charter Article 51 aka the right to individual and collective defence, and they also invoked NATO treaty Article 5. The reason they could invoke Art 5 is that 9/11 happened in the US, which is covered in the article. Art 5 doesn’t limit where NATO members can conduct operations, only which areas are covered by the treaty if there’s an attack.