Looking forward to the rest of the review. I have ordered one of these along with the cobra x goggles as my first foray into FPV. Keep it coming. Thanks for the great video content and info.
hmm, is that screw that is holding the wing plastic or iron? if it is too heavy. Print a new one in LW-PLA and that problem is sorted. You can use those extra grams for something else.
For everyone looking at the FPV-version as a kind of Plug-And-Play model: Unfortunately ZOHD has made the baffling decision to ship this model with an ESC that does not have the JST connector for the camera presoldered. Previous models such as the Dart 250g had this so you could simply plug in the camera and everything just worked. When asking the support they stated that this was an intentional decision, citing weight reduction as the cause and recommending to get my own battery voltage from somewhere. Basically, I have to solder my own cables to the ESC to power the camera. I have no issues with doing that, really, but I find the marketing around it a bit dishonest then. If that connector and its cables were removed for weight reasons it was probably since they found out that with their recommended battery they could not stay under the 250g otherwise, so why sell a FPV version as a 250g version if its not possible to stay under 250g with their recommendations and their own hardware? I switched the ESC to one from another ZOHD model I had where I do not use a VC400 so it really is no issue for me but I would like to make people aware of this. Not everyone likes soldering ;)
If you weigh the FC, GPS and other parts you may still manage it with a much smaller battery. Check out the full INAV build I did on the Dart 250g.. Best of luck
Great video Lee. I’m anxiously awaiting my Baby Talon. Should be here any day now. Do you think the rear stabs could be taped on? I really like the idea of being able to get my ZOHD planes back in the box for storage and travel.
Was looking at a small long range fixed wing to fly. Coming from a FPV quad background, should I go for this or the dart? Was thinking of mating this with a iNav FC along with GPS, LiOn battery and crossfire to do some long ish range fly at my backyard (city LOL). What do you think about that? BTW thanks for the quick review. Hope to see more of this. Should I go yolo and go with AR Wing Pro? Is it too much for my first fixed wing and stick with the likes of this or dart (seems to be a bit strapped in compartment space).
In same situation.. I chose 250dart for first learner. Then going to bump up to wing pro. 250 is light and can take a crash better. My thinking.. lol heard on another channel as well. Can't wait! Fc here soon. How hard can it be? Love my Drones 💪👊💪💪
Hey Joel. Choosing the plane to learn to fly with is one of the MOST important choices a new pilot can make. Small 250g models can be twitchy and fly in only the calmest of days. ruclips.net/video/OaKqAng-BVE/видео.html covers most of the links to the tips and how to.. I hope that helps..
@@Painless360 Nice! Gonna check out the video. On the side note, is there any modern trainer model to recommend other than the biller or axe floater shown in the video?
Could you try to do one of those 3 sub250g models with a caddx vista? Even if the weight goes higher than 250g. Which of the 3 do you think would be better to do with a caddx vista?
The idea was that sub 250g are subject to slightly less laws and rules but in many places those limits change as soon as you add a camera to them so check you local laws to see if it makes any difference..
The design of the wing is bad as the wing is too flexi and it started to flatter in some wind like birds all I did is I put strong tape strips on top and bottom of the wing and all that bird flattering gone.
All of the 250g models are designed to be lightweight and sacrifice stiffness and crash resistance to get to that weight. See the issues I had in the video. Also, lightweight models don't cope with any wind so are poor choices for those flying days.. Happy flying
When a lot of the new rules were being created in various countries there were exemptions for sub 250g models. They are great for flying in smaller places in calm weather but I prefer something a little larger for how I like to fly... Happy flying
But in Europe we still have to register as its carrying a camera unless my interpretation of the rules is wrong, you give up so much to get under that 250g for really no benefit
30A ESC you say, is that Chinese Amps or Rest of World Amps?
That´s a realy nice model. I like the Talons , they all fly great. Thank´s for sharing :-)
I’m really glad you reviewed this mate - I’ve been looking at it this week 👍👏
Thanks so much for making and sharing 🤝
Looking forward to the rest of the review. I have ordered one of these along with the cobra x goggles as my first foray into FPV. Keep it coming. Thanks for the great video content and info.
The X goggles are brilliant 👍
@@bugsy742 yeah so say the reviews. Cant wait to get some aerial views and footage of the Canadian Westcoast. Cheers
@@alvandergoot7237 that sounds awesome mate 👍
Great review, nice looking kit. Looking forward to the maiden. Stay safe Lee.
Beautiful little airplane, Lee! Great review! 😃
Looking forward to the maiden flight!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
hmm, is that screw that is holding the wing plastic or iron? if it is too heavy. Print a new one in LW-PLA and that problem is sorted. You can use those extra grams for something else.
For everyone looking at the FPV-version as a kind of Plug-And-Play model: Unfortunately ZOHD has made the baffling decision to ship this model with an ESC that does not have the JST connector for the camera presoldered. Previous models such as the Dart 250g had this so you could simply plug in the camera and everything just worked. When asking the support they stated that this was an intentional decision, citing weight reduction as the cause and recommending to get my own battery voltage from somewhere. Basically, I have to solder my own cables to the ESC to power the camera. I have no issues with doing that, really, but I find the marketing around it a bit dishonest then. If that connector and its cables were removed for weight reasons it was probably since they found out that with their recommended battery they could not stay under the 250g otherwise, so why sell a FPV version as a 250g version if its not possible to stay under 250g with their recommendations and their own hardware?
I switched the ESC to one from another ZOHD model I had where I do not use a VC400 so it really is no issue for me but I would like to make people aware of this. Not everyone likes soldering ;)
Mine is in the mail. Looking forward to the maiden. Good to know you can make 250g with lithium ion. Bonus.
Always having fun, Lee
Cant wait for the maiden!!
Hi. Just bought one. Waiting for your maiden flight. I’m new to this.
would like to see a "full" build under 250:
fpv
flightcontroller
gps
If you weigh the FC, GPS and other parts you may still manage it with a much smaller battery. Check out the full INAV build I did on the Dart 250g.. Best of luck
original XUAV MT is one of the best in its class for mid range flyers there is
Great video Lee. I’m anxiously awaiting my Baby Talon. Should be here any day now. Do you think the rear stabs could be taped on? I really like the idea of being able to get my ZOHD planes back in the box for storage and travel.
I've glued mine. They are not designed to be removable. I wish they had... Happy flying
Was looking at a small long range fixed wing to fly. Coming from a FPV quad background, should I go for this or the dart? Was thinking of mating this with a iNav FC along with GPS, LiOn battery and crossfire to do some long ish range fly at my backyard (city LOL). What do you think about that?
BTW thanks for the quick review. Hope to see more of this. Should I go yolo and go with AR Wing Pro? Is it too much for my first fixed wing and stick with the likes of this or dart (seems to be a bit strapped in compartment space).
In same situation.. I chose 250dart for first learner. Then going to bump up to wing pro. 250 is light and can take a crash better. My thinking.. lol heard on another channel as well. Can't wait! Fc here soon. How hard can it be? Love my Drones 💪👊💪💪
Hey Joel. Choosing the plane to learn to fly with is one of the MOST important choices a new pilot can make. Small 250g models can be twitchy and fly in only the calmest of days. ruclips.net/video/OaKqAng-BVE/видео.html covers most of the links to the tips and how to.. I hope that helps..
@@Painless360 Nice! Gonna check out the video. On the side note, is there any modern trainer model to recommend other than the biller or axe floater shown in the video?
Not that I've flown. The vendors don't seem to see the demand for a great little, cheap trainer 'plane..
The mini-AR wing is the way to go. Very robust and more forgiving aerodynamic than the dart250. Haven’t flown the drift.
Between this and the dart sub 250. Which one would you choose 🤔
Neither. I'd go with the larger models for both.. See my kit picks 2021 video. Happy flying!
Great review 👊👊💪💪
Is the plane suitable for beginners?
I wouldn't recommend it for a new pilot. I cover that in the video.. Happy flying
Could you try to do one of those 3 sub250g models with a caddx vista? Even if the weight goes higher than 250g.
Which of the 3 do you think would be better to do with a caddx vista?
The caddix vista is 27g so it is possible with the right battery...
Why is 250g limit important?
The idea was that sub 250g are subject to slightly less laws and rules but in many places those limits change as soon as you add a camera to them so check you local laws to see if it makes any difference..
try it in wind. its probably ok.
We'll see. Heaver models are less affected but the maiden will show how she handles... happy flying
does the esc have a jst cable to power the camera?
Sadly not. It few missed features I'd have expected. Maiden and full review coming soon..
@@Painless360 cant wait for the maiden :)
On the channel on Friday! :D
Nice review as always. This 250 grams is only for quad copters and not for model aircraft. Happy Flying
For all countries around the world? Laws vary hugely in different places. Happy flying
In most countries (UK, USA, Aus, NZ etc.) there is no distinction between quads and model aircraft.
Canada also makes no distinction. Only exemption is for MAAC certified RC club flying fields.
The design of the wing is bad as the wing is too flexi and it started to flatter in some wind like birds all I did is I put strong tape strips on top and bottom of the wing and all that bird flattering gone.
All of the 250g models are designed to be lightweight and sacrifice stiffness and crash resistance to get to that weight. See the issues I had in the video. Also, lightweight models don't cope with any wind so are poor choices for those flying days.. Happy flying
Oh no, they should named it "Baby Talon" 😄
What exactly is the obsession with getting models to weigh less than 250g????
its means not having to register the aircraft and you can fly it just about anywhere if its 250g or less
When a lot of the new rules were being created in various countries there were exemptions for sub 250g models. They are great for flying in smaller places in calm weather but I prefer something a little larger for how I like to fly... Happy flying
But in Europe we still have to register as its carrying a camera unless my interpretation of the rules is wrong, you give up so much to get under that 250g for really no benefit
Suppose just fly it without a cam and it's all good 😁
@@reynolds81 go fpv mate - los is so pedestrian in comparison ( imho ) 👍
...thats one ugly flying object...!!!...