I just think when the triangle started, viewers began to watch two different shows. Lucas rooters had Lucas goggles on, Nathan rooters had Nathan goggles on. I personally saw something extremely deep with Nathan that was hindered and halted by Elizabeths fear of losing another mountie, PLUS she did find love with Lucas obviously, but she has never addressed the deep feelings she avoided out of fear...which is why season 10 makes sense to me. I enjoy hearing your take on it though...I hope im welcome here. Lol
And I found season 8 to have extremely poor writing...especially the finale. Just interesting how the different viewers have black and white perspectives. Lol
@@amygarza4564 of course you are welcome. I’m not ia Nathan or Lucas team. I wasn’t even on social media paying attention to the triangle. I didn’t even know that one existed. After the season ended, I stumbled upon the accidentally. I teach literature. And I’m a writer. And I look at it from that perspective.
I agree with her comment about the journey being wrong. It is a shame that we were given the tired old storyline involving Elizabeth,Lucas and Nathan. Everything else is great.
I love how Roxanne says she is Team Elizabeth. I think I am Team Hope Valley with a sprinkling of Team Lucas (he is very nice to look at). Here is my 2 cents worth. As Roxanne says WCTH is about the growth and journey of Elizabeth, I would like to add that it is also about the growth and journey of Hope Valley. There is the name change from Coal Valley, the storylines concerning the railroad, the lumber mill, striking oil, foundry, motor vehicles, hot springs, etc. the changes of the town parallels Elizabeth's journey. With that said, I think eventually we will see both mature and gain an independence away from each other. I so love your podcast! Thank you!
Im not a writer by any means, but I think some of rhe storylines have been awesome and some not so much. I am definitely intrigued by this Lucas running for Governor scenario. My opinion is that Lucas gets hurt (cliffhanger at the end if next episode, or middle of last episode) He ends up being ok and the wedding will be small and immediate.
They will not get married ladies!!!! They would not get Nathan to fall in love with her again only for her to reject him again. They would not do that!! This time she will break up with Lucas and there will not be a wedding. I don’t think she will end up with Nathan right away- but she will eventually. That’s what it looks like to me - and I am totally #teamlucas. I think this is so wrong after how close they were in season 9!! But she won’t marry him
I have watched this show from the very beginning . I even watched the Pilot episode. Many people don't realize that a different actress played Elizabeth. I am so glad to hear that you feel the exact same way that I do about this season!!! The writing/storyline, whatever you want to call it, is horrible!!! To revisit the triangle is ridiculous!!! I agree with you. I could have been happy with E picking either N or L. However, once she made her choice, please move forward with THAT choice. This season was NOT at all what I thought it would be. It has been totally disappointing!!! I really hope there is still "hope" in Hope Valley. If not, this may be the end of a really good series!!!
Thank you ladies for a wonderful podcast . You always make me feel better after each episode. My favorite part this episode was Lucas’ speech .Just loved it.I agree with you 2 on everything you said . For me it’s exhausting watching episode after episode. We shall see what will happen.
I heard one theory that said she would't get married but rather go with nither and focus on being a single mother on the frontier like she wrote about in her book. but i think that would be trying to get rid of the problem of Nathan and Lucas teams but end up satisfying nobody.
@@EverythingAboutHallmark said what? sorry I'm confused, Sorry if you thought i was trying to say Erin had said this I didn't say erin had said this it was just a theory I heard of someone trying to explain why they've been doing strage things this season😊
as an asian female, i know about parental pressure to go into an “acceptable” profession is common … often asians go into professions that are “respectable/financially stable”…. you often see more happiness and true personality when they are doing things they enjoy instead of what they are expected to do… almost all secod/third generation asian american females , especially as kids, have had bangs at some point…
I have been Team Nathan from the start and was so disappointed when she chose Lucas. I like Lucas but not for Elizabeth. All that to day this has given me a ray of hope that she will realize she has loved Nathan sll along. Are we watching the same show?? 😂
They are not revisiting the triangle - they are changing the outcome! I keep saying that it’s as if Season nine ever happened. Not one storyline was continued except for the proposal and Rosemarys baby. It’s like they made #teamlucas fans happy for a season and now they want to make the other fans happy. I guess they wanted to rectify what many heartiest didn’t like. Or maybe Chris Macnally doesn’t want to stay on the show- who knows - it’s just so disappointing. Other people online think this is the best season ever and that the writing is amazing. 🤷🏻♀️
I wonder if Elizabeth's worry is if she is robbing Lucas of "the bigger stage he is destined for" that Aunt Agatha talked about by tying him to her small town life. But she herself made it to a bigger stage with her book and will probably do it again; maybe they find a way to stay in Hope Valley and yet impact lives beyond HV. Besides that there's also her worry of leaving behind memories of Jack who is the father of her son ( her hesitation to move out of the row house etc signify that) Elizabeth needs to find her courage and take the final leap. In the courtship period not much changes but a marriage to Lucas will change things about their life that she will have to embrace.
She is not showing Love for Lucas this season she is too busy trying to change him into the kind of man she wants rather than appriciating who he is! She was Mean about Not understanding his want for a proper wedding (having never had one before) Her mean Comment about him not overdoing the cake and then Her selfish determination not to move out of her house (its normal to move when you get married Elizabeth!) and then Her mean Comment about his Grand Gestures, If she doesn't like him as she is I would rather she Married Nathan! She's holding Lucas back from having any fun and showing his love in the way he like to show it! and also holding him back from any big dreams and ambitions he has, Its not Fair on Lucas, He deserves someone more fun and Innovative like Fiona!
If the writers are good, who tells them what to write for the storyline? I thought they discuss it as a group with the showrunner. I guess they may be good writers but are not coming up with good storylines. Maybe they all have writer’s block. Lol
The only way it makes sense for Elizabeth to change her choice is if Chris McNally is leaving the show. But in an interview he said the show was perfect as he has the rest of the year when not filming to spend time with his daughter. I think his interview gives me hope things will hopefully work out . "And so you get to find these two people who are newly engaged, they're in love with each other.. and they feel like there's other things that are kind of pulling them apart. And there's this desire and need to kind of fight to...(he stopped himself from saying something here and ended with )..plan the wedding."
The best WCTH podcast. Thank you ladies
Thank you for the kind words. We enjoy what we do and we really enjoy chatting with other Hearties.
I just think when the triangle started, viewers began to watch two different shows. Lucas rooters had Lucas goggles on, Nathan rooters had Nathan goggles on. I personally saw something extremely deep with Nathan that was hindered and halted by Elizabeths fear of losing another mountie, PLUS she did find love with Lucas obviously, but she has never addressed the deep feelings she avoided out of fear...which is why season 10 makes sense to me. I enjoy hearing your take on it though...I hope im welcome here. Lol
And I found season 8 to have extremely poor writing...especially the finale. Just interesting how the different viewers have black and white perspectives. Lol
@@amygarza4564 of course you are welcome. I’m not ia Nathan or Lucas team. I wasn’t even on social media paying attention to the triangle. I didn’t even know that one existed. After the season ended, I stumbled upon the accidentally. I teach literature. And I’m a writer. And I look at it from that perspective.
I agree with her comment about the journey being wrong. It is a shame that we were given the tired old storyline involving Elizabeth,Lucas and Nathan. Everything else is great.
❤️
I love how Roxanne says she is Team Elizabeth. I think I am Team Hope Valley with a sprinkling of Team Lucas (he is very nice to look at). Here is my 2 cents worth. As Roxanne says WCTH is about the growth and journey of Elizabeth, I would like to add that it is also about the growth and journey of Hope Valley. There is the name change from Coal Valley, the storylines concerning the railroad, the lumber mill, striking oil, foundry, motor vehicles, hot springs, etc. the changes of the town parallels Elizabeth's journey. With that said, I think eventually we will see both mature and gain an independence away from each other. I so love your podcast! Thank you!
Thank you so much for the kind words. And for sharing your insight. I agree along with Elizabeth’s growth. The town has definitely grown.
Im not a writer by any means, but I think some of rhe storylines have been awesome and some not so much. I am definitely intrigued by this Lucas running for Governor scenario. My opinion is that Lucas gets hurt (cliffhanger at the end if next episode, or middle of last episode) He ends up being ok and the wedding will be small and immediate.
Thanks for sharing
Lively recap! Still hoping for a wedding on the bridge this season.
I think small wedding with a big reception later.
I agree, an intimate wedding vow exchange the end of e12 and a reception S11 e1.
@@JudiBond sounds about right
They will not get married ladies!!!! They would not get Nathan to fall in love with her again only for her to reject him again. They would not do that!! This time she will break up with Lucas and there will not be a wedding. I don’t think she will end up with Nathan right away- but she will eventually. That’s what it looks like to me - and I am totally #teamlucas. I think this is so wrong after how close they were in season 9!! But she won’t marry him
Interesting
Bumpy ride! Thanks ladies!
Let’s see what Episode 11 brings .
Interesting listening tonight! Tuesday night, packing for a business trip!
Thanks for tuning in
I have watched this show from the very beginning . I even watched the Pilot episode. Many people don't realize that a different actress played Elizabeth. I am so glad to hear that you feel the exact same way that I do about this season!!! The writing/storyline, whatever you want to call it, is horrible!!! To revisit the triangle is ridiculous!!! I agree with you. I could have been happy with E picking either N or L. However, once she made her choice, please move forward with THAT choice. This season was NOT at all what I thought it would be. It has been totally disappointing!!! I really hope there is still "hope" in Hope Valley. If not, this may be the end of a really good series!!!
Thanks for sharing
I’ve watched from season 1
It’s always been Erin Krakow .
Maybe the pilot was someone else
Do t think I ever saw it.
@@lucyrosinina5505 the movie (which we recapped) had a different actress
Oh I didn’t know that
I never saw it
@@lucyrosinina5505 it may be the pilot which you referenced
Agree with you about the characters!
I’m so invested in them and they are not their usual selves
Thank you ladies for a wonderful podcast .
You always make me feel better after each episode.
My favorite part this episode was Lucas’ speech .Just loved it.I agree with you 2 on everything you said .
For me it’s exhausting watching episode after episode. We shall see what will happen.
Awww thanks. Myah hope is next season we get to relax a bit
Thought that about the hotel scene!
???
Y’all talked about the hotel scene being shot in the church.
@@carolglover3582 it was fun to see how clever production can be
I want to hear powerful vows from them especially Elizabeth.
Me too
I heard one theory that said she would't get married but rather go with nither and focus on being a single mother on the frontier like she wrote about in her book. but i think that would be trying to get rid of the problem of Nathan and Lucas teams but end up satisfying nobody.
Erin never said this
@@EverythingAboutHallmark said what? sorry I'm confused, Sorry if you thought i was trying to say Erin had said this I didn't say erin had said this it was just a theory I heard of someone trying to explain why they've been doing strage things this season😊
@@jemimapeach483 ok
as an asian female, i know about parental pressure to go into an “acceptable” profession is common … often asians go into professions that are “respectable/financially stable”…. you often see more happiness and true personality when they are doing things they enjoy instead of what they are expected to do… almost all secod/third generation asian american females , especially as kids, have had bangs at some point…
not that we liked them (the bangs!) lol😂
Thanks for sharing
I have been Team Nathan from the start and was so disappointed when she chose Lucas. I like Lucas but not for Elizabeth. All that to day this has given me a ray of hope that she will realize she has loved Nathan sll along. Are we watching the same show?? 😂
I most definitely am. You may wish that’s how they wrote the story but that is not how they wrote it.
We all hope things get better and we all hope they end the innuendos about Nathan and Elizabeth. Lets give that a wrap.
So agree
He and Mei were so good
With Mike?
They are not revisiting the triangle - they are changing the outcome! I keep saying that it’s as if Season nine ever happened. Not one storyline was continued except for the proposal and Rosemarys baby. It’s like they made #teamlucas fans happy for a season and now they want to make the other fans happy. I guess they wanted to rectify what many heartiest didn’t like. Or maybe Chris Macnally doesn’t want to stay on the show- who knows - it’s just so disappointing. Other people online think this is the best season ever and that the writing is amazing. 🤷🏻♀️
Poor writing
Bill needs to be with the new lady or go back to the cute redheaded lady
I wish he always was with Molly and the land deal was executed with someone else’s land like who bought Joseph’s cabin?
I wonder if Elizabeth's worry is if she is robbing Lucas of "the bigger stage he is destined for" that Aunt Agatha talked about by tying him to her small town life.
But she herself made it to a bigger stage with her book and will probably do it again; maybe they find a way to stay in Hope Valley and yet impact lives beyond HV.
Besides that there's also her worry of leaving behind memories of Jack who is the father of her son ( her hesitation to move out of the row house etc signify that)
Elizabeth needs to find her courage and take the final leap. In the courtship period not much changes but a marriage to Lucas will change things about their life that she will have to embrace.
She is not showing Love for Lucas this season she is too busy trying to change him into the kind of man she wants rather than appriciating who he is! She was Mean about Not understanding his want for a proper wedding (having never had one before) Her mean Comment about him not overdoing the cake and then Her selfish determination not to move out of her house (its normal to move when you get married Elizabeth!) and then Her mean Comment about his Grand Gestures, If she doesn't like him as she is I would rather she Married Nathan! She's holding Lucas back from having any fun and showing his love in the way he like to show it! and also holding him back from any big dreams and ambitions he has, Its not Fair on Lucas, He deserves someone more fun and Innovative like Fiona!
Very interesting
If the writers are good, who tells them what to write for the storyline? I thought they discuss it as a group with the showrunner. I guess they may be good writers but are not coming up with good storylines. Maybe they all have writer’s block. Lol
The showrunner creates the storyline and the writers write it. They writers are not the problem.
The only way it makes sense for Elizabeth to change her choice is if Chris McNally is leaving the show. But in an interview he said the show was perfect as he has the rest of the year when not filming to spend time with his daughter.
I think his interview gives me hope things will hopefully work out .
"And so you get to find these two people who are newly engaged, they're in love with each other.. and they feel like there's other things that are kind of pulling them apart. And there's this desire and need to kind of fight to...(he stopped himself from saying something here and ended with )..plan the wedding."
I remember the interview