Difference Between 8th and 16th Note Strumming - Guitar Lesson Tutorial [QA-001] - JustinGuitar
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- Q&A: What's the difference between 8th and 16th note strumming? I get this questions very often, so here's the answer. Much more on strumming on the web site and also on my Really Useful Strumming Techniques DVDs.
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1st guy I watched teach when I got my guitar. Thanks for the great instructions,and being cool as a Michigan winter!
exponential!
that's the word I was looking for!! :)
***** It is exactly like in binary counting. 8th note played (=1) or not played (=0) gives 2^8=256 possibilities (^ symbolizes exponentiation, ^2 means square, ^3 cubed, ...).
16th note gives 2^16=65536 (quite a few more :-) possibilities for one bar.
I never thought I would get to see math in the comments to one of these videos. Very nice! I think I use to refer to this as a type 1 permutation, that is, where you have n distinct objects and repetition is allowed. I think type 2 was with no repetition (which deals with factorials), and type 3 is where you don't have distinct objects (like counting all rearrangements of the word mammal).
Hitch Waters, he stated that there are 65,536 note possibilities for 16th (fretboard)* notes that are played or NOT played, in every possible combination. Checkmate!
For instance, consider the famous Chessboard wheat reward.
By the time that the fifth square is reached on the chessboard, the board contains a total of 31 grains of wheat.
The wheat and chessboard problem (sometimes expressed in terms of rice grains) is a mathematical problem expressed in textual form as:
If a chessboard were to have wheat placed upon each square such that one grain were placed on the first square, two on the second, four on the third, and so on (doubling the number of grains on each subsequent square), how many grains of wheat would be on the chessboard at the finish?
The problem may be solved using simple addition. With 64 squares on a chessboard, if the number of grains doubles on successive squares, then the sum of grains on all 64 squares is: 1 + 2 + 4 + 8 + ... and so forth for the 64 squares. The total number of grains equals 18,446,744,073,709,551,615.
Don't know how much that is in weight, but consider that 1 cent doubled every day for 30 days is 10 Million 700 thousand dollars.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem
*The fretboard notes begins a whole new discussion.
I had just tried a 16th note pattern and was havin a hard time making it different from just a fast 8th pattern. The concept of thinking of all downs in an 8th note strum made all the difference. Thanks.
This helped me out big time.
I know this is an old video but thanks for breaking it down.after 30 plus years of playing i am trying to break sone bad habits and learn new things and concepts ..be blessed
the number of probabilitys of a 16th note patern is 2^16=65536 possibilities, because we have 16 "places" to decide to hit or not (2 posibilities) the strings. if it's not enough for you add accents, melody and a little bit of harmony :)
btw thanks justin great work!
Best description ihave ever heard about difference thank you
Great tutor and guitar player, humble and always great enthusiasm.
Very basic and oh so essential to get this lesson down. Great lesson Justin!!
I love the transitional piece of the lesson describing the all downs on the eighths. Thanks for this explanation. Thus far, I've always struggled with trying to do double speed eighths and struggling with muscle memory.
Clean explanation. 👍
I Wasn't kidding when I said this was an important concept to learn. I've watched it 4 times now!
I wish more people explained this in detail like you just did. It seems everywhere I've looked there's only a passing explanation . And only once I've seen someone say the 1& e phrasing and I thought that was just that one guys way of counting...not the standard so I payed it little mind. I'am glad to know I wasn't really wrong in my interpretation on my own. I was more thinking in 1/8 &1/16 meaning 8 to make a whole and 16 to make a whole like in mathematics not 8th & 16th . I know this is more or less the same thing but I wasn't 100% on the difference and the" one E and" thing til now. Thanks for posting this.
There are many methods of counting 16s: one/ee/uh is only one of two or three popular methods. Pick a way that works for you.
For those who are curious, 4:05 are not sixteenth notes!
Great lesson Justin, You have a real gift for teaching mate, thanks.
Played saxophone for 4 years.. I got this shit ;D thanks Justin. This will be a helpful series
If you get Justin Strumming 1 & 2, you will be all set. These are the best "Get you really strumming video's / Tab that I've ever seen or purchased
Inaccurate. 4/4 always has 4 beats to a bar just as the other time signatures use the top number to refer to the beat amount. It is the subdivisions that you are referring to. Doing all downstrokes has NOT changed anything, the time is still strummed/measure, but the sound to note order strummed on the neck. 16th note strumming would be 16 notes per measure. The main difference between the 8th and 16th note strumming is that the strokes follow the same down/up but the 16th note strums are twice as fast.
TheFutureVirtuoso I know about the different strums and beats to the bar. I've been playing for over a year. I'll admit I've a long way to go yet. But Justin did explain it on the video. Thanks for the tip I'll give it a go later.
Excellent lesson!! understand the sixteenth note strum...Thanks!!
Yes it made sense sir
Very helpful
Thank you 👍👍🙌nice info
thank you, this is really helpful! :)
Do you have a lesson like this but for playing scales?
There are loads of scale lessons here: www.justinguitar.com/classes/scales-modes
Cheers 😊
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Listen the the Verve acoustic guitar version only and Lucky man. That is easier to see the 1/16 pattern. It follows the snare drum.
Hey Justin! Great idea. My question is if you have any tips for figuring out intervals and chords when working out a song. For that matter, are you planning to resume the transcribing series? It's a shame it wasn't as well received as you'd hoped, but I sure found it helpful.
A good example of a 16th note strumming variation is the guitar intro to 'Wake Up' by Arcade Fire.
Great video! My question would be an overview of amp tone settings. How do you find the right tone using treble, mid, and bass?
"Right tone" is subjective. Simplly experiment and use you ears!
tMattLZ
That's like if someone asks you which spices you used in a dish saying "just whatever you have laying around put it in to taste." I mean, you can at least say "Most rock uses distortion" like saying "Most dishes use salt and pepper."
Dear Justin, I have a hundred quid question: when I play "Coffee and TV" the pick slides out from my fingers after about one third of the song. Question: give me a professional advise: how to correct the grip of the pick without stopping the song?
great question! this is the kind of thing I meant... questions, not song requests :)
Nice lesson....could you please make a lesson for Syncopated rhythm... I'm stuck in this
A Q&A on dynamics would be good.
so... The 1 2 3 4 are the full beats, the 'and' are the between the beats notes? and then the "e" are the in betweens of the in between?
Hi Justin. Thanks for your allways excellents explanations. I would like to ask you for something that I can't find in internet. How to set guitar (pickups and tones) and amplifier to achieve the STANDARD sounds of blues, rock, funk, jazz, etc ... I just find how to set the amp but nothing about how I should adjust my Strato (five positions pickups and two tones selectors, too much for me :-/ ). Thanks in advance!
Thank you so much.
and plz can you explain me,
beats of the guiter , whole note to 16th, Plz
Hey Justin, what make of guitar is that? I played an Australian made guitarin Hong Kong recently, but I can’t Romberg the name. The design around the sound hole is supper similar.?? Thanks for the lessons 😁
you are a god.
Super explanation! Just what I needed. Thanks for all the good work, Justin!
How do you strum a 16th-8th-16th. Learnt the gallops ( down-down-up) but havent found any info on 16-8-16... haaalp plz!
Your sixteenth note about metro is wrong interms of application in 4:05
Please help me.. What kind of pattern is this ddu uddu uddu? Is it 16th note pattern? And how to practise this on metronome to improve timing for this?
I now need to know how to sing the lyrics and I will be ready to write my first first song.
Hey Justin, on 16th note strumming, how many strings are you hitting on the and beats? Very difficult to see especially on some guitar tutorials I heard coldplay's Yellow when you played the C chord.
if you're counting 16th notes, it means for each beat you should count 1e+a. So for a full bar it's 1e+a 2e+a 3e+a, etc. SO...it's not really talking about the number of strings you can hit. You can decide that based on the chord you're strumming. e.g. for a c chord, it's the same as usual--don't hit the low E string. A good way of practicing 16th note strumming is to simply mute the guitar with your left hand (so no chord will sound) and just practice the counting and hitting the strings, and then throw in the chords. 16th note strumming is basically what they use in funk music. Most of the time in funk music you only hit a couple strings of the chord, and you don't hit the chord on every strum. You mute on some strums and hit on the others.
Make the whole bar 16th notes. Strum up/down on all the beats. Change the notes you need to be quarter notes and follow the strum pattern left.
How do we right lyrics in measures?
hi. wonder if you could help me. As a beginner I'm trying to learn a solid picking technique. my question is, if playing a 4/4 bar that contains mainly 8th notes with just one or two sixteenth notes thrown in, do I down pick all the 8th notes? basically what I mean is once 16th notes are present do I switch to sixteenth note strumming/picking rules? thanks for any advice. j
Count them out using down/up for the bar. I was taught to treat them as if counting them as quarter note count
Its amazing I pick well,, well enough on leads. And play metal rhythm (pedal bass notes with 5th chords or 4th or 3rd ala Megadeth/Anevnge7 etc etc) rocket fast, but I cant strum open chords worth heck??? Unless I point the pick "and I mean point it with first finger pointed strait out" and really flick the wrist. Oddest thing
I have this concept down pretty well, but when the denominator is not a 4, then I run Into trouble. Like how would you count 4/5 or 5/6 for example?
Neither of those are valid rhythms.
The same way. The only change is the beats per bar. 3/4 time is called swing/waltz time. Just strum for every beat count and follow the down/up for the pattern. Is no different than quarter notes except for faster strums on 16th notes. There are 32nd, 64th, 128th, and 256th notes that even Satriani does not typically use.
The term you were looking for was "exponentially". "Logarithmically" is something that grews up quite slowly.
Justin you face is similar to Thomas Shelby 😂
Btw thanks for information about 8th & 16th 🔥
Can you use 8notes on scales
How to identify if a song needs an 8th note or 16th note strumming pattern?
Guitar tutorial for at last by etta James please xx
exponential would be the right word, not logarithmic :)
What I want to know is where the other 7/8 of the note went
getting quantum with the mathematics there
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2:35 tht expression 😀
It would be exponential instead of logarithmic
Lol
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What's that tattoo of Justin?
I always thought 16th was one-e-and-a. two-e-and-a
He literally says that in the video. Perhaps you should watch it before you comment next time.
Yes very ignorant of me. I did continue watching and realised afterwards.
I must be tone deaf because I cannot for the life of me differentiate and play 1/8 notes….. Like no matter how many times I tried my ears, and fingers do not align and I’m sick of having to practice with a metronome
I like 8notes better they sound better
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Fail ;)
That hat is not a goid look
Played saxophone for 4 years.. I got this shit ;D thanks Justin. This will be a helpful series