Film Theory: The FALL of the Disney Empire (The Disney Theory)

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
  • Watch Part I of The Disney Theory Here ► • Film Theory: The DARK ...
    Theorists, today we're continuing down the rabbit hole of The Disney Theory, connecting all of the movies in the Disney animated universe (similar to Jon Negroni and The SuperCarlinBrothers Pixar Theory). To catch you up, last time we connected the early days of Disney with Frozen, Mulan, and Moana. And today we're continuing through the future of Disney where animals take over the earth! How do Zootopia, Lilo and Stitch, Tarzan, and the rest of the movies connect? Let's find out...
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Комментарии • 2,4 тыс.

  • @malachitehawk6337
    @malachitehawk6337 Месяц назад +1843

    I love how he was going to say the animal movies were on another planet but Chicken Little deconfirmed this. Like Chicken Little specifically had ramifications and affected the outcome of this. That’s just weirdly funny.

    • @Tyler-q3k
      @Tyler-q3k Месяц назад +90

      Totally, this guy has WAY more patience than I do, I'd lose my mind trying to mix magic and Sci fy elements.

    • @jakko_
      @jakko_ Месяц назад +131

      It's also like Chicken Little SPECIFICALLY tried to do this, because they're like: "Right HERE on EARTH! Specifically EARTH! There is no other planet it could be on!" which I find extremely funny.

    • @ShadowDemon_4
      @ShadowDemon_4 Месяц назад +22

      He said in the video that they're still on earth.

  • @mitwhitgaming7722
    @mitwhitgaming7722 Месяц назад +3725

    I am horrified to think what the galactic council from the Lilo and Stitch's opening will look like in "realistic graphics".

    • @osmosisjones4912
      @osmosisjones4912 Месяц назад +57

      Hercules series Earth was flat

    • @mitwhitgaming7722
      @mitwhitgaming7722 Месяц назад +57

      @osmosisjones4912 any theory like this is going to fall apart when examined more closely. It's just fun!

    • @osmosisjones4912
      @osmosisjones4912 Месяц назад +12

      What about the Lilo &Stitch Crossover

    • @nataliamundell6266
      @nataliamundell6266 Месяц назад +14

      "So it is a monster"
      "Just a little one "

    • @m3tamorphosissystem250
      @m3tamorphosissystem250 Месяц назад +14

      Stich himself looks cute though

  • @MaveriKat
    @MaveriKat Месяц назад +640

    21:49 You and me both. The problem was Disney wanted to close their Animation Department so they purposely set Treasure Planet up to FAIL. They gave it a release date that put it head-to-head against both Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets *and* James Bond: Die Another Day, not to mention The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers released less than three weeks later! Treasure Planet had NO CHANCE to get its fair share of the Box Office.

    • @blizzkinggaming6587
      @blizzkinggaming6587 Месяц назад +30

      An ironically this was one of my most beloved movies I watched as a child

    • @rainyrose2932
      @rainyrose2932 Месяц назад +13

      One of my favorite movies. And knowing that we were supposed to have 3? It always breaks my heart just how well Treasure Planet could've done and what it could've been.

    • @MaveriKat
      @MaveriKat Месяц назад +7

      @@rainyrose2932 Tim Curry was set up to be Metal Beard, the villain of the Second One, (granted a Direct to Video movie but STILL!)

    • @rainyrose2932
      @rainyrose2932 Месяц назад +4

      @@MaveriKat would've been too powerful. Disney would've never been able to live up to it again. They knew this 😂

    • @Vi_Vi_1
      @Vi_Vi_1 Месяц назад +3

      Truly one of the best movies they ever gave us, and sorely lacking the hype and legacy it deserves

  • @Nebhet
    @Nebhet Месяц назад +58

    I was initially skeptical of the timeline idea in the first video, but I watched them back to back and I'm so impressed with the work the theory team did here. This is one of the best and most fun videos. Thanks for the good work.

  • @achillicor
    @achillicor Месяц назад +290

    Weren't Elsa and Anna's parents going to find the source of Elsa's magic? It was confirmed in Frozen 2, and Elsa even finds the shipwreck in the movie.

    • @bookgirl-1
      @bookgirl-1 Месяц назад +31

      Maybbe the wedding thing was a cover? Or the magic thing could have been a stop along the way🤷‍♀

    • @mb-sb5ever
      @mb-sb5ever Месяц назад +26

      If I remember correctly the wedding explanation was just to help their theory on where the parents were going,
      Theory: Elsa Anna and Rapunzel are cousins
      Explanation: 3 years before the events of frozen rapunzel was getting married
      Conclusion: the parents were going to Rapunzels wedding
      Other theories were they were going somewhere (can't remeber where) and they got pregnant and stranded on an island (tarzan) meanwhile their ship sank to the bottom of the ocean (the little mermaid)
      All of which were made before frozen 2 and so either way yes Elsa and Anna (and probably everyone else who would need an explanation) would have been given a cover story as they didn't know that they were going to northuldra

    • @AndrewDavis-sj6mb
      @AndrewDavis-sj6mb Месяц назад +5

      Happy 2025!

    • @emilyberger48
      @emilyberger48 Месяц назад +8

      Yes, I think he forgot Frozen 2 when placing Tarzan

  • @EliBoi298
    @EliBoi298 Месяц назад +3797

    “Hello internet! Welcome to film theory! The fall of Disney all started when paramount partnered with SEGA.”

    • @I_do_stuff_99
      @I_do_stuff_99 Месяц назад +44

      Explain

    • @Sp3ctralI
      @Sp3ctralI Месяц назад +167

      @@I_do_stuff_99I think it’s to do with how successful the 3 Sonic movies have been, and the fact a 4th and maybe even more will come

    • @RealZerenaFan
      @RealZerenaFan Месяц назад +32

      This is Part 2 of the Ultimate Animated Disney Timeline, why are you commenting this?

    • @AliceBaudoin-e5i
      @AliceBaudoin-e5i Месяц назад

      J

    • @dominicyeomans8107
      @dominicyeomans8107 Месяц назад +10

      Does anyone really believe this?

  • @realsanmer
    @realsanmer Месяц назад +322

    I feel like when Jane's dad mentions Darwin and Kipling, he meant that Tarzan should meet their work, not the actual men.

    • @darkhorsedouglas4789
      @darkhorsedouglas4789 Месяц назад +34

      But to be fair both men would be very interested in meeting a person like Tarzan. Jungle Book and Tarzan have a similar set up and Darwin had a lot of theories that would be adjusted with a case study like Tarzan.

    • @manupm9161
      @manupm9161 Месяц назад +4

      I feel the same

    • @nehpets216
      @nehpets216 Месяц назад +6

      Wish magic based on the Stars means that someone wishing they were healthy could have made them healthier thus living longer.

  • @dylancsgames54
    @dylancsgames54 Месяц назад +1005

    Meet the Robinson is an actually a good movie with the full themes and funny jokes like a dog is wearing glasses

    • @PL45VYR
      @PL45VYR Месяц назад +25

      Lucille bakes cookies too

    • @starchildofthesun
      @starchildofthesun Месяц назад +8

      I think you got the wrong movie /jk

    • @jamessirot854
      @jamessirot854 Месяц назад +27

      It's a good movie, but seeing Wilbur literally being sucked out of existence FREAKED me out when it premiered.

    • @callmethecommentcountess9329
      @callmethecommentcountess9329 Месяц назад +1

      Boring

    • @dylancsgames54
      @dylancsgames54 Месяц назад +14

      @lonebattledroid4474 this guy get it

  • @thekrakenexperiment280
    @thekrakenexperiment280 Месяц назад +16

    Imagining how all of the Disney movies would fit in a timeline via Easter eggs and historical references was an idea I was obsessed with when I was younger. I’m so happy to see this channel exploring this idea with all of this great research.

  • @Thebacklogofthoughts
    @Thebacklogofthoughts Месяц назад +34

    I've been thinking, if you're going to take a Pixar thing and make it a Disney thing, why not take a Disney thing and make it a Pixar thing. Please make a Pixar death count!

    • @Thebacklogofthoughts
      @Thebacklogofthoughts Месяц назад +3

      I've been thinking, that too much thinking. Will start me sinking down... But, oh my oh my god the entertainment's here now, suddenly it's amazing here.

    • @BrendaTheguy-jo3dx
      @BrendaTheguy-jo3dx 28 дней назад +1

      Good idea

  • @elrick44
    @elrick44 Месяц назад +90

    THANK YOU so much for not buying into that Tarzan/Frozen headcanon, that theory had more holes in it than Tarzan's parents after their deaths

    • @mushroomfusion245
      @mushroomfusion245 Месяц назад +2

      What about the theory that it’s the sunken ship Ariel is exploring at the beginning of The Little Mermaid?

    • @elrick44
      @elrick44 Месяц назад +3

      @mushroomfusion245 not likely given the difference between Scandinavia and the Mediterranean

    • @Charmlethehedgehog
      @Charmlethehedgehog Месяц назад +3

      agree. not to mention the beard style tarzan's dad had was/is a VERY british one and not just "oh elsa/anna's dad just let it grow out a bit too much for a bit there"

    • @AndrewDavis-sj6mb
      @AndrewDavis-sj6mb Месяц назад

      Happy 2025!

  • @calebcostrini
    @calebcostrini Месяц назад +410

    I’m just happy to see the Big Hero 6 show acknowledged

    • @nannyducky3368
      @nannyducky3368 Месяц назад +18

      We need movie sequel NOW

    • @Timeless56_No.256_a
      @Timeless56_No.256_a Месяц назад +16

      obake is probably the best villain disney has gotten for a LONG while

    • @Aqutic_flare
      @Aqutic_flare Месяц назад +4

      It must be sacrid

    • @ThatGirlOliva
      @ThatGirlOliva Месяц назад +7

      Yes that show is so underrated it’s soooo gooodddd

    • @cranedraws7778
      @cranedraws7778 Месяц назад +4

      I feel validated that I didn't watch the show for nothing 🥲

  • @GJames-Legend101
    @GJames-Legend101 Месяц назад +562

    This is probably my most favorite Film Theory Video, the idea of Star Magic Starting and Connecting everything in the Disneyverse is so interesting, they should honestly make a Disney movie where theirs a Star God or something who’s responsible for all the wishing magic.

    • @mariolucario493
      @mariolucario493 Месяц назад +51

      Yes, it’s too bad that such a movie never happened. There is no Wish movie in Ba Sing Se.

    • @Countryball2400
      @Countryball2400 Месяц назад +8

      Yeah

    • @ItisJasmine27
      @ItisJasmine27 Месяц назад +1

      Yea

    • @elizabethlacy8869
      @elizabethlacy8869 Месяц назад +8

      Man too bad they missed the mark with Wish then, that could've been the big one we were hoping for WE COULDA HAD STAR BOY >:(

    • @arkinjadhav1868
      @arkinjadhav1868 Месяц назад +2

      they did, technically. if you choose to count wish

  • @fina_Soma
    @fina_Soma Месяц назад +14

    As a person who lives in louisiana i am proud of princess and the frog for its food representation. Beignets taste amazing tbh i like then with powdered sugar and syrup oh and hot chocolate or chocolate milk is good to drink when you have it.

  • @PurelyDavis
    @PurelyDavis Месяц назад +11

    I never forgot ‘Meet the Robinsons’. That movie was a staple part of my childhood.

  • @mraltoid19
    @mraltoid19 Месяц назад +1105

    I don't see how anything in this video is about " The FALL of the Disney Empire", but it was interesting none the less. Click-Bait title in my honest opinion, but video was genuinely good. It's like someone luring you in with a Pizza, then presenting you with a Kobe Steak Meal. Yeah it's a bait and switch, but....the Steaks really good.

    • @tia7520
      @tia7520 Месяц назад +178

      True. I was expecting something more about how Disney keeps playing it safe with their new movies. Like Moana 2 and mufasa both apparently being disappointing. I still ended up watching this though.

    • @TGK-uk6op
      @TGK-uk6op Месяц назад +78

      I think they meant to name this video "A Disney timeline" but they named it this by accident.

    • @theemeraldking3251
      @theemeraldking3251 Месяц назад +60

      @TGK-uk6op How do you type The FALL of the Disney Empire when you mean to type A Disney Timeline by accident?

    • @a_raconteur
      @a_raconteur Месяц назад +35

      Yeah I expected a deep dive into wishes and entropy potentially expanding into multiversal consequences but what we got was well a timeline

    • @TGK-uk6op
      @TGK-uk6op Месяц назад +25

      @theemeraldking3251 what I'm saying is maybe they got it mixed up with another video they were making

  • @brantjustilian3791
    @brantjustilian3791 Месяц назад +209

    Lilo and stitch as a TV series, which crosses over with Kim possible, recess, the proud family, and the American Dragon, Jake Long. The recess also had a movie where dude want to cancel summer by blasting the Earth into an eternal ice age. Add that to your timeline too, please. 🥺

    • @jaythejinzo
      @jaythejinzo Месяц назад +5

      im glad someone had said it. i was awestrucked that he mention them due to them having an connected universe through their animated series. my guess is that it would've complicated things, but who knows.

    • @erubianwarlord8208
      @erubianwarlord8208 Месяц назад +1

      @@jaythejinzo not really complicating anything since none of the crossovers effect this master timeline do they?

    • @mb-sb5ever
      @mb-sb5ever Месяц назад +1

      In part 1 he said he wouldn't include direct to video sequels and/or tv series unless he needs them to establish timelines and considering he already got the year from the movie he won't include them in the cannon timeline

    • @AndrewDavis-sj6mb
      @AndrewDavis-sj6mb Месяц назад

      How was New Year's eve?

  • @gabbodelaparrawrites
    @gabbodelaparrawrites Месяц назад +179

    The battle amongst the original princesses could be about who has more control over the woodland creatures. That could be interesting.

    • @amity.mp3
      @amity.mp3 Месяц назад +3

      I feel like Pocahontas would win at this!

    • @gabbodelaparrawrites
      @gabbodelaparrawrites Месяц назад +2

      @@amity.mp3 Perhaps if we turn it into a Pokemon tournament. 🤣

  • @Spiteful_Tene
    @Spiteful_Tene Месяц назад +34

    Lee started talking about doing more experiments pitting Disney princesses against each other and somewhere in the back of my head I heard a very faint "SUPER AMAZING END CARD TOURNAMENT!"

  • @eleanorkeith2235
    @eleanorkeith2235 Месяц назад +23

    6:17 Um, isn’t Frozen 2 basically telling us Elsa’s parents are sailing to Ahtohallan? To find an answer to Elsa’s powers? Instead of… Rapunzel’s wedding? It also told us they died on the ship instead of having a second life elsewhere. It’s a sequel, sure, but this should count because saying they were going to the wedding is just untrue.

  • @mitchellkiteley8688
    @mitchellkiteley8688 Месяц назад +112

    22:27 Fortunate for Lee and the Disney Theory, 3 of the upcoming Disney movies announced are sequels: Zootopia 2(takes places after the first one), and then Frozens III and IV(most likely will take place after Frozen II)

    • @joshpetzoldt6344
      @joshpetzoldt6344 Месяц назад +12

      Surprising absolutely no one, they are sticking to sequels to successful movies after the failure of Strange World and Wish.

    • @sable-king2066
      @sable-king2066 Месяц назад +6

      There’s also the fact that Zootopia 2 will revolve around the arrival of semi-sapient reptiles, which based on this theory would’ve already been present in society.

    • @Countryball2400
      @Countryball2400 Месяц назад

      Whatttttttt

    • @iambadatnamingthings3547
      @iambadatnamingthings3547 Месяц назад +7

      Did they seriously announce a Frozen 4 before even releasing a trailer for Frozen 3?

    • @mitchellkiteley8688
      @mitchellkiteley8688 Месяц назад

      @@iambadatnamingthings3547 Yep. They announced it at D23, I think. Frozen 3 is scheduled for 2027, and a Frozen 4 was announced to be in development.

  • @Cheesemanrules
    @Cheesemanrules Месяц назад +168

    18:56 to solve the gap, think of Wally, it was a waste land but the bots probably cleaned earth while everyone was in space making animals rise

    • @Pellimori
      @Pellimori Месяц назад +24

      Except most of the robots went defunct, eventually leaving just WALL-E as the only functioning robot by the movie's advent. Mountains of trash went nowhere until the humans came back to clean things up themselves.

    • @Cheesemanrules
      @Cheesemanrules Месяц назад +9

      @@Pellimori Well I’m guessing when the humans came back, they recleaned it it and left again

    • @rexdawn7
      @rexdawn7 Месяц назад +7

      Wall-E

    • @LARADEKA
      @LARADEKA Месяц назад +5

      There were no animals in the movie, as far as I remember.
      No sentient talking animals, no Chicken Little, no Zootopia.
      Just a barren unrecognizable wasteland.

    • @ramtailthebattlertr2066
      @ramtailthebattlertr2066 Месяц назад +22

      Also that's the Pixarverse, its own timeline

  • @camerongaul261
    @camerongaul261 Месяц назад +70

    Gargoyles: Awakening 1 and 2 was a Disney video movie so it counts! It honestly deserves so much more.

  • @BLTvariety
    @BLTvariety Месяц назад +9

    The Lilo and stitch adoption paper isn’t actually an adoption paper. It is recognizing the people who made the movie and acknowledging them. This could be a flaw in your theory, but otherwise this is a really cool idea.

  • @jeremymorris345
    @jeremymorris345 Месяц назад +4

    1:38 Guess people don't know how strong Rapunzel truly is.

  • @haro_yemon
    @haro_yemon Месяц назад +88

    "Yeah, i- I forgot about this one too" how dare you imply i would forget one of my comfort movies i used to fall asleep to. But honestly it have me a line I still say to this day. "I have a big head and little arms"

    • @pkmntrainermark8881
      @pkmntrainermark8881 Месяц назад +2

      I'm not sure how well that line was thought through.

    • @haro_yemon
      @haro_yemon Месяц назад

      @pkmntrainermark8881 the big head and little arms? How come?

    • @pkmntrainermark8881
      @pkmntrainermark8881 Месяц назад +1

      @@haro_yemon
      I was paraphrasing the next part of that quote.

    • @haro_yemon
      @haro_yemon Месяц назад +1

      @@pkmntrainermark8881 oh man, sorry it went right over my head...time to rewatch the movie and refresh myself on all the lines! Hit it frogs!

    • @valathor95
      @valathor95 Месяц назад

      It’s also one of my wife’s favorites.

  • @thehybrid3947
    @thehybrid3947 Месяц назад +143

    Treasure Planet is always going to be one of my favourite Disney films with it's great animation, the music and how they adapted it from the original and I hope I get to share it with my future kids one day and hope they pass it on.

    • @kr0w1123
      @kr0w1123 Месяц назад +6

      Disney did this movie so dirty. They ruined the big reveal in the marketing and pushed it out with little Fanfare in favor of Toy Story getting all the attention. Treasure Planet is one of the best Disney films

    • @AndrewDavis-sj6mb
      @AndrewDavis-sj6mb Месяц назад

      ​@@kr0w1123Happy 2025!

  • @LocalMaple
    @LocalMaple Месяц назад +143

    14:42 Perfect time to bring up Kim Possible, Recess, The Proud Family… and shapeshifting dragons in American Dragon Jake along. No issues with those either.

    • @masedaace5473
      @masedaace5473 Месяц назад +11

      Maybe that can be the next part of the theory. We linked the movies and the shows tied to those, now let's see the other shows. I know that Recess, Jake Long, Kim Possible, and the Proud Family crossed over with Lilo and Stitch, so we have a good start.

    • @AndrewDavis-sj6mb
      @AndrewDavis-sj6mb Месяц назад

      How is your Graceful Sunday?

  • @JPopJewels
    @JPopJewels Месяц назад +6

    Absolutely amazing work on this theory. As a die hard Disney kid from the 90’s this was so satisfying to watch

  • @asher6810
    @asher6810 Месяц назад +2

    When I clicked on this, I thought it was going to be about how Disney is falling as a company. Still, this is interesting

  • @zacharymoss2994
    @zacharymoss2994 Месяц назад +29

    19:33 WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT Question. Why would humanity leave earth? Was it pollution like in walle? A ice age, super volcano, climate chaos,nuclear warfare? Why would humans want to abandon earth like it went through a apocalyptic disaster?

    • @benfuentes2118
      @benfuentes2118 Месяц назад +6

      Wall E explains it perhaps ?

    • @gallantblade1825
      @gallantblade1825 Месяц назад +6

      Well, it was mentioned in the vid that humanity probably mixed in with the UGF, so perhaps they thought their planet had no more to offer and left it? It might be a "depleted of resources" issue that caused them to abandon the planet, and then Earth evolved and replenished itself over millions of years.
      And since the Disney movie-verse always has a mostly optimistic view on the world, maybe humans decided to leave Earth due to said resource depletion, wanting to preserve what natural beauty remained after their advanced technological advancements? Maybe they had talks with the UGF who scientifically determined the current state of the planet and were a large force in determining abandoning Earth.

    • @CuriousNeon
      @CuriousNeon Месяц назад +4

      ​@@benfuentes2118 that's Pixar tho...

    • @mrmplay2212
      @mrmplay2212 Месяц назад

      We have a cross over baby😅​@@CuriousNeon

    • @romanpackham8471
      @romanpackham8471 Месяц назад +2

      i thought it was because of the galactic federation's stance on gene editing and so they ditched the planet to basically cover it up as "see, they're naturally like that, we didn't do a thing!"

  • @gamesonrobloxman
    @gamesonrobloxman Месяц назад +61

    22:47 LETS GOOOO

    • @caseykraven4414
      @caseykraven4414 Месяц назад +8

      MatPat returns!

    • @AnyPersonMusic
      @AnyPersonMusic Месяц назад +8

      Fr he’s back and I watched the deadliest Disney movies theory by him yesterday!😂

    • @mynamekloudy7034
      @mynamekloudy7034 Месяц назад +1

      @AnyPersonMusichow

    • @Delphox_5000
      @Delphox_5000 Месяц назад +4

      Legitimately though, what is going on here? Every single time he makes one of these end cards and says "coming up next" it is a video we already have. At first I thought that it was just that the first few were coming out in a different order than the editors made them in, but then it kept going. Now I'm just confused. Is there some ARG going on that I am oblivious to and there's a clue in the videos? Maybe one to show us a time stamp that applies to the video that they promote in the "Up next on Film Theory" segments?

    • @NoVaPika61
      @NoVaPika61 Месяц назад

      Its just them plugging a video they want you to watch thats of a similar topic​@@Delphox_5000

  • @SIZModig
    @SIZModig Месяц назад +19

    I love the idea that Disney is just making biopics in the Disney-verse.

  • @coolstingray6325
    @coolstingray6325 Месяц назад +12

    14:26 nah bro 9/11 was 11 days before that

    • @Joshua429
      @Joshua429 Месяц назад

      Fr

    • @krio1267
      @krio1267 3 дня назад

      they actually changed a part of the movie due to 9/11

  • @blakethebeast3174
    @blakethebeast3174 Месяц назад +5

    Real happy about the Tarzan integrations (thought the animated series would be ignored entirely), not entirely happy at the Meet The Robinsions diss as it was one of the few DC movies that hit me in the feels, but letting it slide, i.e. not sending the talking frogs after Lee to toss him into the back of car. Regarding Treasure Planet and the state of the galaxy, it's told in the movie's backstory that it takes place in a location called the Etherium where space has a breathable atmosphere and my theory for the timeline is that a catastrophic happened that created the Etherium and made the sort of space travel used by the Galactic Federation unusable and lead to the creation of the solar ships used in TP. It would be poetic if like with Atlantis and the Catastrope, it was from someone messing with Star Magic again.

  • @jamesmartin5927
    @jamesmartin5927 Месяц назад +57

    I'd like to hear his thoughts on how Bed Knobs and Broomsticks establishes a link between the live action and animated universes.

  • @charleslee8313
    @charleslee8313 Месяц назад +26

    That's brilliant.
    By sitting through all of those films, and piecing together what goes where (or when, in this case), you've truly earned a break.
    I'm with you, in wanting Gargoyles to be a part of this theory.

  • @LoreCreator-r7h
    @LoreCreator-r7h Месяц назад +10

    Glad you didn’t put Tarzan near Frozen and Tangled! When I saw the sibling theory, Frozen 2 had came out and I was like “uhhhhh that theory is dead-“ so from a Disney kid, great job!

  • @Wallflowerkitten
    @Wallflowerkitten Месяц назад +2

    11:06 I used to believe that gargoyle was just a fever dream that I had made up until one day when Disney+ was a thing I saw that it was on Disney+, and I realized I had in fact not made it up and it made me so much happier in life

  • @lunecker
    @lunecker 18 дней назад

    I absolutely ADORE the art style used in 101 Dalmatians. It looks so nice, I wish they had used it more often. The backgrounds were especially nice.

  • @valmid5069
    @valmid5069 Месяц назад +62

    Disney Empire: (falls)
    Everyone: *(Star Wars ROTJ's celebrations across the galaxy)*

    • @geoffreyrichards6079
      @geoffreyrichards6079 Месяц назад +4

      What’s all this talk about the company falling coming from?

    • @generaljimmies3429
      @generaljimmies3429 Месяц назад +2

      @@geoffreyrichards6079 When the company went "Woke" aka hyper far-left politically. Most folks prefer Disney to stay politically neutral.

    • @geoffreyrichards6079
      @geoffreyrichards6079 Месяц назад +3

      @@generaljimmies3429 And by “neutral”, you mean ‘bland’ and ‘safe’.

    • @generaljimmies3429
      @generaljimmies3429 Месяц назад

      @@geoffreyrichards6079 The results speak for themselves.

    • @geoffreyrichards6079
      @geoffreyrichards6079 Месяц назад +3

      @@generaljimmies3429 I thought them playing things safe is what nearly got them bankrupt in the years after Walt passed away. It wasn’t until they started taking more risks that they entered their Renaissance era.

  • @applejackx97
    @applejackx97 Месяц назад +37

    3:15 technically there wasn't a donkey potion in The Emperor's New Groove, Kuzco was turned into a Llama. But it's entirely possible that Yzma would have one.

    • @AndrewDavis-sj6mb
      @AndrewDavis-sj6mb Месяц назад

      Happy 2025!

    • @Corydon811
      @Corydon811 Месяц назад +2

      Maybe the empire found a way to make the spell airborne

  • @Temans_the_temleton
    @Temans_the_temleton Месяц назад +416

    Disney is the EA of movie making

    • @TCPSOfficial07
      @TCPSOfficial07 Месяц назад +14

      Yeaaaaa.....but they haven't been original since then.

    • @crystal_194
      @crystal_194 Месяц назад +13

      Can they make a new movie that's GOOD

    • @Llamaboy_M
      @Llamaboy_M Месяц назад +2

      Ong bro

    • @Temans_the_temleton
      @Temans_the_temleton Месяц назад +10

      @@crystal_194rarely nowadays

    • @he1274
      @he1274 Месяц назад +10

      I feel like they're more like ubisoft. They made so much slop people stopped wanting to see their stuff.

  • @Little_Editer
    @Little_Editer Месяц назад +3

    I had a ad about ‘giggleland’ and tbh it looked cute but at the end it kinda traumatised me:)

    • @LoganPelikan
      @LoganPelikan Месяц назад

      bro which ad did you get i got two

  • @santiagoruiz7490
    @santiagoruiz7490 Месяц назад

    I love Lee starting the video with "this was my most commented video ever" and later disagreeing with an old Film Theory video (Tarzan as Elsa's Sibling)

  • @SwampyFrendoX33
    @SwampyFrendoX33 Месяц назад +67

    This is such a good video idea

    • @RealZerenaFan
      @RealZerenaFan Месяц назад +5

      Yea!

    • @greygaston1263
      @greygaston1263 Месяц назад +4

      Considering that the earliest of promotions described zootopia as a world where humans (and primates in general) never happened, I’m pretty sure the “animal films” are just apart of alternate timelines, or films within the show n universe Disney, and don’t actually take place within the Disney universe, same going for treasure planet.

    • @SaachiVyas-q3g
      @SaachiVyas-q3g Месяц назад

      yeah.

  • @clynn1995ny
    @clynn1995ny Месяц назад +30

    18:01 HOW DARE YOU SPEAK AGAINST THIS MOVIE.
    No but seriously, this is one of my favorites and I love it so much.

  • @kingzach74
    @kingzach74 Месяц назад +21

    21:54 I wholeheartedly agree with you. It was and still remains in my eyes the most beautiful and amazing Disney film of all time. Treasure Planet...oh how you deserved so much better.

  • @kaycobakugou143
    @kaycobakugou143 Месяц назад +3

    8:24 are we justt gonna skip over the fact that you left out Anastasia? That should be placed before princes and the frog since it was placed in 1916

    • @RuthlessBoot3455
      @RuthlessBoot3455 25 дней назад

      Because even though it's like a disney movie Anastasia is not made by disney but 20th century Fox

  • @tayyoung8002
    @tayyoung8002 Месяц назад

    Hearing MattPat's voice still reminds me of the first days of Film Theory and its sister channels. Hope to see you agin MattPat, in the meanwhile, you're doing great with the channel. The loyal theorists are still here.

  • @cosmicalnight
    @cosmicalnight Месяц назад +7

    10:32 GARGOYLES MENTIONED. I AM HAPPY.
    I quite literally gasped when I heard it. It is so underrated. My beloved dark Shakespearean show full of stone warriors 🙏

  • @QuarterCal
    @QuarterCal Месяц назад +15

    I'm so glad you're continuing this series. My favorite one of yours so far

  • @JenRut-kz9vx
    @JenRut-kz9vx Месяц назад +72

    Can’t believe how awesome this is, you rock!

  • @LordBloodySoul
    @LordBloodySoul 3 дня назад +1

    I love this Timeline. I would say that the Animal Main Cast Movies would probably be a split from a Timeline where Wall-Y happens. When Humans never return to earth and the cleanup had been finished.

  • @ToadetteTails6969
    @ToadetteTails6969 Месяц назад

    I love how the Goat from Wish specifically talks about dreaming of a utopian metropolis where animals walked and talked; and wore clothes. Bro was directly hinting at Zootopia/Zootropolis specifically; and that's actually one of my favourite Disney movies, so I consider him a real GOAT for that reference.

  • @Gory-fp4wb
    @Gory-fp4wb Месяц назад +67

    So impressed by this, you always do it so well!

  • @gamingneerd
    @gamingneerd Месяц назад +35

    Part 2 FINALLY

  • @legogenius22
    @legogenius22 Месяц назад +25

    Absolutely phenomenal theory, love this timeline so much. Also Treasure planet is definitely top 3

  • @GhostV04
    @GhostV04 Месяц назад +3

    @6:07 has to be false, bc In LITERALLY ONE SCENE in Frozen 2 they show us that water has memory and shows the parents FINAL moments and their demise

  • @girlofanimation
    @girlofanimation Месяц назад

    I love SuperCarlinBros theories! Their early HP theories are sooo good, my AP English teacher would appreciate all the literary elements they analyzed.

  • @ryanenzokana3584
    @ryanenzokana3584 Месяц назад +6

    22:50 i like how MatPat made a very quick cameo at the end

  • @althealee9375
    @althealee9375 Месяц назад +11

    The Great Mouse Detective is an absolute favorite of mine from my childhood, I feel like it was very underrated

    • @katherinealvarez9216
      @katherinealvarez9216 Месяц назад

      Beauty and the Beast is mine. We'll see what happens with Disney next.

    • @Roshiyu
      @Roshiyu Месяц назад +1

      To this day, 'Let me be good to you' is one of Disney's most memorable songs, to me at least. ^^

    • @teleisha249
      @teleisha249 Месяц назад

      the ratigan champagne scene still plays in my mind iconic

    • @teleisha249
      @teleisha249 Месяц назад

      @@Roshiyu the change of outfits amazing

  • @boomboomgaming5309
    @boomboomgaming5309 Месяц назад +34

    20:39 maybe a star war

    • @gregmorantz4522
      @gregmorantz4522 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah

    • @ChillingRat
      @ChillingRat Месяц назад +1

      Real

    • @FishBoi4242
      @FishBoi4242 Месяц назад +4

      Funny but unlikely what happens in Star Wars because that happens a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Also the “Humans” in Star Wars don’t originate on Earth the general consensus is that they originate on Coruscant.

    • @Countryball2400
      @Countryball2400 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah but still it could be so fun

    • @itskevinjustkevin
      @itskevinjustkevin Месяц назад +3

      I like to think that when they say "a long time ago in a Galaxy far far away," they mean the early days of the galactic federation. During the rise and fall of the old Republic, the machinations of the first galactic Empire ect ect

  • @wrestlersmith97
    @wrestlersmith97 Месяц назад

    This is my first film theory since matpat left. The vibes are immaculate. Well done sir

  • @byTrafiken
    @byTrafiken Месяц назад +1

    Meet the Robinsons is a great movie! So underrated!

  • @AydenJosephRogers-m4i
    @AydenJosephRogers-m4i Месяц назад +7

    I miss MatPat so much. I wish MatPat would not retire from RUclips.

    • @JTtheOctoling
      @JTtheOctoling Месяц назад +5

      Yeah but he chose good replacements

    • @AydenJosephRogers-m4i
      @AydenJosephRogers-m4i Месяц назад +1

      ​@@JTtheOctoling, I wish MatPat comes back one day and return. 😢

    • @jjosiah0615
      @jjosiah0615 Месяц назад

      @@AydenJosephRogers-m4i
      He stills streams on GT live

  • @Umwhatthesigm
    @Umwhatthesigm Месяц назад +10

    Finally a new Disney theory!🥳

  • @relish1386
    @relish1386 Месяц назад +11

    I'm so Glad film theory didn't fall off 🙏

  • @CarterCane0
    @CarterCane0 Месяц назад

    I'm glad to see there are other Treasure Planet enjoyers out there, it also stands as one of my favorites alongside Atlantis: The Lost Empire.

  • @Dr_Idiocracy
    @Dr_Idiocracy Месяц назад

    "That movie was... it sure was something." Yeah, a masterpiece. I'll fight you over that, Lee!

  • @ChazM2410
    @ChazM2410 Месяц назад +17

    He did Bolt so dirty.... 😭

    • @LadyTes10
      @LadyTes10 Месяц назад +3

      Noooo i just realized that 😭I love bolt!

    • @chaoticpan333
      @chaoticpan333 Месяц назад +2

      At least he didn’t forget it I love BOLT sooo much

    • @Numbuh900
      @Numbuh900 Месяц назад +1

      I mean, Bolt makes a cameo in Big Hero 6, a picture of him is shown on a desk at the police station

  • @thedeltastrat
    @thedeltastrat Месяц назад +15

    15:05 :( How could you?
    All jokes aside, I loved Meet the Robinsons as a kid.

  • @Hirukaiser
    @Hirukaiser Месяц назад +4

    I'm so disappointed in the vote from the last theory between the three princess choices. Toupee's capacity for destruction far outshines the other two. The only thing that could compare is Te ka's rampant chaos from Moana's movie.

    • @Jettfighter
      @Jettfighter Месяц назад

      That’s what I’m saying I don’t think enough people watched the tangled series to understand the full power of rapz much less Elsa getting 5 times the votes than the other two rapunzels power levels make her one of the strongest characters in the Disney universe.

  • @EpicGamerHumphreyiloveminers
    @EpicGamerHumphreyiloveminers Месяц назад

    PLEASE DO A THEORY ON JOHN CAPARNTER'S "The Thing"3 characters perish off screen, but you encounter 2 of their dead bodies you must conduct a theory upon this practical masterpiece

  • @henry_alphonse
    @henry_alphonse Месяц назад +6

    I've been waiting for this episode! Y'all did a great job piecing everything together, it honestly feels more cohesive than the pixar theory, much thanks to the star magic being an overarching theme. It really feels like a worldbuilding project with a magic system and monster races and everything!

  • @QuantumMal
    @QuantumMal Месяц назад +4

    Rapunzel getting last in that fight seems wrong, especially if you factor in her extra incantations from Tangled: The Series/Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure. That made her hair nigh indestuctible, and gave her things like solar manipulation, levitation, emotional manipulation, decay, destruction, and likely a prolonged death touch. 1 second of contact with her using the Decay Incantation caused an atrophied limb. I can see Elsa winning with range and versatility but Raps definitely beats Moana.

    • @Jettfighter
      @Jettfighter Месяц назад

      Not only that but it’s confirmed by the creator of the series she is so much more powerful than you think making her one of the strongest characters in the Disney universe. She has the powers of two gods Chernabog and Belobog. She has resurrection hax time manipulation. She literally no diffs all the princesses and most of the verse.

    • @blizzkinggaming6587
      @blizzkinggaming6587 Месяц назад

      Its just hair man

    • @Jettfighter
      @Jettfighter Месяц назад

      @@blizzkinggaming6587 definitely not just hair, the hair can destroy anything can’t be destroyed can disintegrate anything it touches.

  • @aceproductions43
    @aceproductions43 Месяц назад +15

    6:13 Are we just going to forget that the Frozen parents were heading to atahallen and NOT rapunzel's wedding as confirmed by frozen 2

    • @Ghost_caat
      @Ghost_caat Месяц назад +5

      I was going to say just that

    • @Jettfighter
      @Jettfighter Месяц назад +3

      In a book it was proven that they were secretly going to the wedding.

    • @Jade_isbadatart
      @Jade_isbadatart Месяц назад

      @@Jettfighterit might have been changed

    • @Jettfighter
      @Jettfighter Месяц назад +1

      @@Jade_isbadatart the book came out after the 2nd movie

    • @Jade_isbadatart
      @Jade_isbadatart Месяц назад +1

      @@Jettfighter wait what this frozen lore…

  • @MediaMashup-m5z
    @MediaMashup-m5z Месяц назад +2

    This has nothing to do with this video, but could you guys do a theory on the movie The Thing? The ending really confuses me and I wanted to see what you guys could come up with.

  • @Geo-yb9jz
    @Geo-yb9jz Месяц назад +1

    Film theory series about FROM on MGM+? such a good show lots of mysteries that need answers and I feel like its a good show that you’d enjoy if u havent watched it yet

  • @George-xe3yo
    @George-xe3yo Месяц назад +4

    That surprise matpat jump scare at the end got me

  • @vegladex
    @vegladex Месяц назад +24

    Treasure Planet is ABSOLUTELY one of the best animated movies out there. Big part of my childhood, *criminally* underrated and unknown. Anyone who hasn't seen it yet, should.
    But Lee..... I dunno if we needed any more of it, Disney hasn't exactly the best track record of sequels. I really think it's just good enough on its own.

    • @lukassmith9863
      @lukassmith9863 Месяц назад +1

      Completely agree. I had just rewatched Treasure planet with my little ones. It’s such a good movie with simple yet strong themes, a fun story and beautiful animations and music.

    • @komi___
      @komi___ Месяц назад

      What about a live action though?

    • @pinkfoxboi1331
      @pinkfoxboi1331 Месяц назад +1

      It's sooooooo good idk how it failed considering

  • @Auburnfrost
    @Auburnfrost Месяц назад +6

    So glad you brought up big hero six the series and Gargoyles! Love those, glad they could the fit in this theory.

  • @musemuro
    @musemuro Месяц назад +1

    If I may be so bold as to put my own two cents in this timeline: Instead of having all of humanity leave earth in order for it to be populated entirely of animals why not instead say that thanks to things such as Yzma's potions or the advanced science coming out from star magic, that not only did the animals use said technology to become more human like but that also the humans who remained on earth used the same tech to turn themselves more animal like thus creating a world populated by hybrids. Great Video by the way!

  • @Skibidi-unc
    @Skibidi-unc 23 дня назад

    “We’re gonna see a MASSIVE time jump” but you know what else is MASSIVE?😂😂

  • @breeze91606
    @breeze91606 Месяц назад +5

    Babe drop everything, New Film Theory dropped

  • @WannabeDancer72
    @WannabeDancer72 Месяц назад +4

    FINALLY! Vindication for that crackpot Frozen/Tarzan theory 😂

  • @osmosisjones4912
    @osmosisjones4912 Месяц назад +7

    We see ancient Greeks in the Aladdin series . It's a bit of alternative history we don't know when Aladdin takes place

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman Месяц назад +4

      They referenced that in the last video, saying that it can just be that Genie is messing with time travel (since Genie makes a lot of references to future things).

    • @homerman76
      @homerman76 Месяц назад +3

      We know time shenanigans tend to happen in that side of things, so we don't really need to overthink it 🤔

  • @FriesmanRBLX
    @FriesmanRBLX Месяц назад +1

    This was really cool! Good job film theory team!😀

  • @HiAndAHalf
    @HiAndAHalf 29 дней назад +1

    Now we gotta connect all the National Geographic Documentaries

  • @MonsterPrincessLala
    @MonsterPrincessLala Месяц назад +6

    6:37 we also see that they were actually sailing north in Frozen 2 and that they did die at sea when their ship sank up north

    • @Jettfighter
      @Jettfighter Месяц назад

      @@MonsterPrincessLala actually the book frozen 2 Dangerous Secrets: The Story of Iduna and Agnarr says that they were going to a wedding

    • @Jettfighter
      @Jettfighter Месяц назад

      @@MonsterPrincessLala CHAPTER FORTY-EIGHT
      Iduna
      "DO YOU HAVE TO GO?"
      Things had moved quickly from the night I had told
      Agnarr the truth in our secret room. Our story was simple: we were going on a two-week trip, to attend the wedding of a faraway princess by route of the Southern Sea. We would trust only the captain of the ship and his skeleton crew with the truth-and even then, not until after we'd set sail.
      No one wanted us to go, of course, the seas being notoriously dangerous at this time of year. But no one was more adamant about this than Elsa.

  • @marcelopaulo446
    @marcelopaulo446 Месяц назад +4

    22:35 most efficient jumpscare in film theory history

  • @betafurret1503
    @betafurret1503 Месяц назад +3

    8:50 OBJECTION! Fox and the Hound 2 cannot be used as proof as it is very definitely non canon. Tod and Copper only spend 1 day together in the original film. Yet the sequel is set over the course of multiple days.

  • @HomeSchooledWizard
    @HomeSchooledWizard 28 дней назад

    Meet the Robinsons is one of my favorite movies of all time, I remember getting the dvd from Netflix and watching it all day on repeat I loved it so much. I rewatched it recently and just got flooded with nostalgia and the story is better than I remembered. It’s legitimately a very good and sweet movie.

  • @lunecker
    @lunecker 18 дней назад

    the 19th century and the early 20th century is such a cool time for animated movies. They have such nice atmosphere.

  • @EditorHeart
    @EditorHeart Месяц назад +8

    Unlike Tom this video is not an Hour Thanks Film Theory 0:26

  • @ChuckE.CheesesIllinois
    @ChuckE.CheesesIllinois Месяц назад +5

    For me, I always believed Zootopia, and the Disney ride Splash Mountain had a connection. Especially with how similar Zootopia's Judy Hopps, and Splash Mountain's Br'er Rabbit look and act, almost as if they were related.
    Only thing that could be seen as a continuity error is if you consider the animated segments in the film they come from featuring a live actor interacting with Br'er Rabbit. However it doesn't have much of an influence on the plot so I tend to ignore it

    • @MrBlue6
      @MrBlue6 Месяц назад +1

      The original splash mountain was based off of a racist older live action Disney movie that they have disowned

    • @m3tamorphosissystem250
      @m3tamorphosissystem250 Месяц назад +1

      Oh, so… you like Song of the South? 🤨

    • @ChuckE.CheesesIllinois
      @ChuckE.CheesesIllinois Месяц назад

      @@m3tamorphosissystem250 mainly the animated segments. But tbf, the live action parts which are considered controversial, are tame compared to other works that are deemed offensive, i.e the censored 11 from the Looney Tunes.
      But I'm more of a fan of Splash Mountain over Song of the South, I just have knowledge on the film too

    • @ChuckE.CheesesIllinois
      @ChuckE.CheesesIllinois Месяц назад

      @MrBlue6 i can tell you don't get the movie that much outside of what people on Twitter told you

    • @MrBlue6
      @MrBlue6 Месяц назад

      @@ChuckE.CheesesIllinois I’ve seen the movie. You can have your own opinions though and I won’t stop you.

  • @michael-cw7nx
    @michael-cw7nx Месяц назад +11

    I don't really watch film throry too much anymore. I'm not saying the new narrator does a bad job, in fact he does a great job! But it's just not the same as when mat pat was the narrator, but I do still enjoy the occasional episode.

    • @Chris-rg6nm
      @Chris-rg6nm Месяц назад +2

      It's not the same great content, energy, jokes. It's like these are all corporate generic theories.

    • @homerman76
      @homerman76 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@Chris-rg6nm​ Really? I think it's the opposite, you can tell that Lee has a lot of care and interest in the things he's doing theories on. MatPat was great, but he was a lot more limited in his knowledge (something he noted many times when he'd mention topics he wished he could cover) because he didn't have the time to get invested in various shows. Lee is knowledgeable because he's spent a lot more time with movies, anime and other shows, and that translates to passion, at least, that's how I see it 🤔

  • @ChrisEdelweiss
    @ChrisEdelweiss 2 дня назад

    Treasure Planet is an underrated GEM, definitely part of my childhood

  • @nickroy8387
    @nickroy8387 Месяц назад

    For the whole Hawaii not reacting to aliens thing, remember that Hawaii is usually ranked 1 or 2 in happiest and most kind states, that's just what they do, plus the Gantu Samoan scene was hilarious

  • @Fireborn-o4v
    @Fireborn-o4v Месяц назад +26

    The thumbnail made me think that stitch destroyed disney

    • @Black_Out_Edits
      @Black_Out_Edits Месяц назад +1

      This comment is why he changed the thumbnail to the girl from encanto

    • @Justatroopernamedhank
      @Justatroopernamedhank Месяц назад +3

      I hope that's not a red flag for how the supposed live action Lilo and Stitch will do in the box office