The Religion of the God Emperor | Dune Lore
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- The most dramatic example of the dire consequences of blind faith and unquestioning belief can be found with the rise of the mighty and terrible God Emperor who successfully forced a religion of his own design upon the known universe. In this video I examine the religion of the God Emperor and the vital role it played in saving humanity from its otherwise inevitable destruction. Spoiler warning if you are unfamiliar with Frank Herbert’s Dune saga.
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Even tho i dont believe in the globe model i still love some of the novels and movies propagating it. Same goes for this channel what a breath of fresh air. thanks for all these years of stellar content. Wouldnt mind a audiobook for all the books with some nice graphics. hope that will come at some point
Man, this Bene Gesserit witch just keeps making the best content
Its interesting that more and more people are willing to let government leaders make decisions for them and not think for themselves. The very things illustrated in Herbert's saga. He was as much a historian and visionary as an author. Great video.
It's not more and more. This is a constant throughout human history. Education and wealth are prerequisites to actually engage with governing. Beware those who would deny you education or want you poor.
That's why the American Expirement is so mind-blowingly advanced. Intended to be just short of anarchy, it allowed a wonderful laboratory for individual, familial, community, county, and state expirementation in EVERY facet of life: religious, belief, speech, self-defense, privacy, law, business, contracts, trials, punishment, technology, and, as Amendment IX illustrates, EVERY RIGHT was intended to be retained by the people unless expressly granted, in a very limited manner, to the Federal or State governments.
I pray we get back to the Anti-Statist roots of our Republic that made such miraculous progress, development, and prosperity possible. When I hear Nancy Pelosi and other Corruptocrats incorrectly quoting the Bible to make a convenient moral argument to support their own authoritarian policies, I immediately think of Dune. Hell, we have already seen fake emergencies lead to authoritarian over-reactions that deprived individuals of innumerable sacred rights to self-determination. And Covid wad only a precursor to what is coming next. Dune should be required reading in every High School along with 1984 and A Brave New World (amongst others).
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Society is getting stupider all the time. It's only going to get worse.
@@specialnewb9821 but the problem is that they teach falsehoods, both outright and from their incorrect information.
@Elizabeth Jansen I'm not saying any given set of information is 100% correct. But part of a good education is critical thinking and continuing education so you can learn more about a topic and determine if new info means what you thought before is wrong or it supports what we know.
Always enjoy the Dune videos so much, especially when you delve into the novels beyond the first one.
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These Dune videos are always interesting to watch, keep up the great work!
Once Again Elaine used the "voice" to call us here to worship the religion of the cookies. Great video :P
Love your videos, but I was wondering if you've done one on the pitfalls of prescience, how it becomes more of a trap than a tool. If not, I think it would make an interesting topic.
Great suggestion! Thanks! I've only done two so far explaining prescience. "Dreams Are Messages From The Deep" and " How Does Paul See the Future? | Prescience Explained" At least I think those are the titles lol...
@@NerdCookies thanks, I'll be sure to check the out!👍👍👍
@@NerdCookies the issue you will find looking into it as a whole is which are which as we see with the forming of the schools each was ment to fill a role and to be able to adapt to what was needed but due to Prescience the ones that could see more of what might happen started to force the future down set paths thus making that one path that they feared the most come to be if they had just stayed true to what they were first formed to do then the entire events of the story would not of gone the way it did as the great houses would of stayed united as they had been during the Butlerian Jihad at that time they were fighting for a common cause and it was only after the end of that conflict and the forming of the schools that they started to return to the old human problems and start minor wars and fight among themselves
What I never thought about until I got into the next four books was WHAT is the danger that humanity faces. Why is the Golden Path necessary to save humanity? Then, I eventually understood the two things it was designed to achieve.
Lines from Monty Pythons Life of Btian keep running through my mind.
Clearly, Villeneuve is a great fan of both Frank Herbert AND Monty Python, and those nods to Life of Brian were quite deliberate :-)
The real mastery of the movie was to weave those comic relief moments in in such a subtle way that it didn't subtract from the seriousness of the subject matter - on the contrary, in fact, as satire can be a powerful tool to convey serious topics, and it was used very effectively.
Your videos are always outstanding!! Thank you for posting!!
I am so glad that you're continuing with your Dune lore vids! Especially since you're focusing beyond the original trilogy now! Can't wait til you do some deep dives on Moneo vs Malky or move further and share your thoughts on Odrade or the MIGHTY MILES TEG
Awesome! This is the reason I argue with other people that both Paul Muad'Dib and his son Leto II (III) were in fact real unsung heroes, and it was in purpose by them. Yes, Paul was flawed, because he was thrust into the machinations of the Bene Gesserits, so as he rebelled from them, developed his Prescience powers and became Emperor, he saw the extinction of humans be Stagnation.
Pau'ls role in the "Golden Path" to save human kind was too horrible to take. He would have had to lose his humanity, physically and internally, as such the Pre-born Twins of Paul Muad'Dib, His children Leto II and Ghanima were the best candidates, since they were seen as non human because of their Pre Born status, and it was worrisome that they were susceptible in becoming "Abomination", either could lose their humanity for this most important move.
Ghanima had accepted though that Leto II was stronger, since he could resist the possession from the Genetic Personas inside them both and avoiding in becoming "Abomination', since Ghanima was susceptible to their parents personas inside her, in particular their mother Chani, with the latter trying to take over her daughter and Paul's Persona scolding her to relinquish their daughter from inside Ghanima and from inside Leto II. So the latter took on the responsibility and with their father's persona, would embark on this horrible but necessary path, with Paul's Persona inside Leto II suffering sadness at the "necessary evil" things that his son had to do for the Golden Path to succeed. So Yes, Paul Muad'Dib and the "horrible" god Emperor Worm, Leto II were real heroes saving human kind from extinction.
Frank Herbet had such weird ideas, but it's a pretty interesting read.
One note I think you missed was Leto II also thought all male armies tended toward homosexuality. Frank Herbet to my understanding saw that as negative because he believed that reproduction was so vital to the species that homosexuality was an evolutionary dead end.
I wish he was still alive to regret that sentiment, because homosexuality in a species helps it from overpopulation, and in human cases encourages adoption. It's exists for a reason, it's not a defect like p*dophelia
@Tuckernutz well yeah, clearly it's not because it happens in animals and doesn't lead to extinction. But it's still in the books and Leto's thoughts, so bringing it up is relevant to the topic.
It’s pride moth somewhere!
Yeah, I love Herbert and the Dune series but he did have some bad ideas here and there throughout the series. But, as much as I respect him, I don’t worship him and have my disagreements. Which is kind of the point of the series anyway.
@@tuckernutter The simpler explanation is that evolution isn't perfect.
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Well said ✌
Another entertaining and thought provoking episode thanks NC for your time and efforts. Cheers.
Im currently reading god emperor, as it stands, its probably my favorite book in the series
The desire to believe in something greater than ourselves seems very human no matter what universe. I think as consciousness in humans develops this may change. Not that believing in a god is a bad thing but it's can bring about more inner peace and less wars due to religions. Great commentary as always.
This has always been an interesting dynamic. Don't follow powerful charismatic or powerful leaders, but being a tyrant for 5000 years...dats cool.
That's the great thing about Dune, it has so many layers and examines so many of the forces that affect societies.
Love these overviews! Great to be reminded of how theories csn translate into reality.
I hoped there'll be a movie or a TV series about Leto Atreides II in his time as God-Emperor.
I most enjoy your studies upon the subject of Dune and Rings of Power. Thank you.
Imagine my surprise when I learned that "the golden path" does not refer to the water he spilled on the sand.
A message in don't hear much from God Emperor is the need for the long view in order for humanity to survive. Is that survival worth the cost of the individual suffering? Who could be trusted with such a long view?
Thanks for the vid. Nice analysis.
Paul did not become a John the Baptist like figure. He just affected the external style of John in living a spartan life in the desert crying out warnings.
Johns job was 'making straight the way of the lord'. In other words, preparing people to be ready to meet and serve Jesus.
Paul's role was in warning the Fremen to reject the royal Arteries household.
So Paul's style was similar to John the Baptist but his focus was the exact opposite.
Unless that is, you consider the Atriedies family to be akin to that of King Herod, in which case, John spoke out against them and was killed by them for his troubles.
Leto II is one of my favorite characters in fiction
Thank you for these videos. It’s so hard to remember which ones I watched. It’s a good problem to have.
“When I need to identify rebels, I look for men with principles.”
― Frank Herbert, God Emperor of Dune
Cheers.
Love the video
The Worm is interesting but I just don't think that mankind is capable of Herbert's apocalyptic stagnation
These films are going to be some of the most entertaining and important ones in the coming years.
Each time I hear of the “golden path,” I am instantly reminded of the “sendero luminoso.” 🤷♂️
Or Alistair Crowley.
Is it just me or is the only sci fi race that you can think of that consistently passes the Dune test is the Orks from 40k.
I think Leto II is my favorite character in fiction
Great Leto II art!
This is both bizarre and fascinating at the same time.
Fascinating topic....
I really hope they make a really good Dune: Messiah film and then find another visionary director to tackle Children and God Emperor. This is the core of Dune for me. The failure of Paul and the success of Leto II in saving humankind.
It's always most interesting to me that Leto hated what he was doing and didn’t believe in it, but he did it all anyway in order to help the rest of humanity internalize the antithetical lessons that would ensure the liberty and survival of the species.
As repulsive as I find all of the artists’ representations of the god-king Leto, I find it so difficult to imagine worshipping it. It looks silly, turd-like, or just plain gross. Shai-Jeloud (sp?) inspires worship by its massive size and total invulnerability. Paul Atreides inspires because he is always depicted and cast as an absolutely gorgeous specimen of human-kind, and he has mystical powers. Worshipping some big Jabba the Hut-looking turd monster is very difficult to conceive.
great video 👏
Thanks Elaine
The lesson ? Be careful what you wish for , you just might get it . .
Can you imagine if we get a god emperor movie as good as part 1 and 2 😻 🐛 🙇♂️
I wish I was like leto
So, what exactly literally happened when he made voices emanate from her urn? Trickery? Ventriloquism? Her ghost? All a fabrication?
I wonder what Duke Leto would do if he were to find out what his predecessors do after he was killed
"Where, oh where has all that vigor gone?"
Call me a party pooper, but I'm not interested in watching a half human, half sandworm on screen.
Unless, it's played up for body horror. Like some cronenberg creature.
I'm not a part of the 'Im spiritual, not religious.' crowd. The two are together not separate. Herbert must have had serious World Religion prejudicial issues. Sad. After Dune, I don't understand much as there is too much material to ruminate over. The same with John Tolkien's work, which is my personal favorite. The Silmarilion 's epic and episodic scope I greatly admire, but it too is too much. Game of Thrones? I don't want my mind and heart ruined with vain excessive imaging more than it has to be. I have to draw a line of demarcation with never-ending series that I care nothing about.
All of Them
The Religion of the God-Emperor. The only method to establish the Pax Lumbricusia.
I like calling his rule the great boredom before the time they wish and romanticized the time they where board.
Did Herbert contradict his main theme of being critical of messianic heroic figures as humanity needed a God Emperor in order to avoid extinction?
i disagree a lot with the concept leto saved humanity, this is just something he told people was true, the entire golden path was just self-delusion for tyranny.
Forced Worm Evolution of entire human race ? 😆
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Everyone who thinks God emperor is not for Hollywood. How about a God emperor movie directed by Tarantino. Imagine Leto monologs written by Tarantino(and all the flipper shots🤣🤣)
what do i think of the religion of the god emperor? BIFAR lol
i love your videos .. but I fell you may be overly concerned with the wrong God Emperor
I cannot miss parallels with the woke politically correct cultism of our times
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At what?
Sadly, after the first novel in Herbert’s DUNE series, most of the subsequent books concerned with “The Golden Path” of “The God/Worm/Emperor” simply LACK the basic element of compelling narrative dramatic tension. No one is ever a true “threat” to the “God/Emperor,” and the books become as sluggish and flaccid as the monotonous “thousand-year-peace/tyranny” of the God/Emperor” itself. The books are *not* AT ALL compelling reading with their pseudo-philosophical “lectures,” and *not AT ALL* adaptable for successful film versions.
They certainly chane
Content so fascinating. Voice intonation so annoying.