Has Doctor Who gone too woke?
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
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Yes its woke and it sucks and its going to get worse
Sadly I think that will be the case even though I want Russel and Ncuti to succeed and make great episodes again.
It makes no sense and, with poor writing, they are going to have no "fans" at the end of the film.
@@rubix4195 woke dr who will go broke
If that is possible ?
Only if you tune in.
when I was a child I loved Doctor who.......now to be totally honest it's woke BOLLOCKS! 😮.........
Absolutely, it's just total "Woke box ticking bollocks!" now which is why Millions are switching off!!!🙄🤨🧐😠🤬💩
@@keithdukes5990 love the original and the new ones up till capoldi. Then it went into realms of wokeness . Dr who has always been political. Green death pollution. Mutants racism warriors gate slavery and the daleks were nazis. But the writing was a lot more clever than Chibs woke crowd
Doctor Who born 1963 died 2016
Doctor Woke born 2017 died...................... Well at this rate Never
Yes. Dr Who died 5 years ago. Its turned into a weird gender bending, preachy, political plop.
35yrs ago you mean.
So its bad for the doctor to be black or a female, but its ok if Missy is the Master and the Gallifreyan General was a dude once out of all the regenerations he ever had.
@@victorhale go the whole way.
The next Doctor should be an underage one-legged Chinese girl with Tourette’s, a Welsh accent, wearing a rainbow patterned burkha.
@@mikereger1186 ok good joke. But you get the point
@@victorhale lol no, it's bad when you use females and minorities strictly to write awful episodes hellbent on telling bad stories to make a political message.
Whittaker was genuinely awful as The Doctor. I’m done with Doctor Who as well as the BBC. I don’t even care who the the guy is.
The acting and story writing are the important thing here and they’re both crap. At least one needs to be good.
It’s just a case of another British cultural icon being deliberately subverted.
Just like James Bond
Why not give him a chance to show what he can do in the part?
@@chriswilkinson7636 yeah. To be fair it isnt his fault black people are token actors at the moment. He may do it justice. He deserves that chance when he may actually be a good actor. Otherwise we're unfairly cancelling the actor just because the show writers' did something that annoyed us. No point punishing someone else who is trying to make a career of it.
@@DarkAngel2512 Agreed. The only issue is, with the symbolic direction; it's hard to expect anything other than what we've come to expect from the last seasons. It does not make me want to watch what's to come.
@@RSAnimism I dont watch it so it wont effect me but for those who are avid followers it's a shame
When I was a kid in the 70s I used to watch it with my dad, I can tell you now he would not be seen dead watching it now.
The new Doctor just happens to be a Black homosexual immigrant. He just happens to tick not one, not two but three BBC diversity boxes.
He'll be identifying as nonbinary to meet the trans lobbying needs.
Maybe he has a disability to be revealed later.
@@Jezza_One I’m sure he could dig deep and find some debilitating anxiety! 🤣
The Doctor or the actor? 🤔
The actor isnt gay, he played a character who is gay....do you know what acting is? Do you think Johnny Depp is actually a pirate?
A black, gay doctor and a transgender, mixed race assistant......I think we have reached the saturation point of woke.
@@JohnSmith-it6hj woah! Ginger, that too woke even for the Nu Who
@@JohnSmith-it6hj 😅😅
@@Oldmanfnaf half my family is ginger, so that I would accept! 😂
Peak Woke
The fact that the Docs sexuality and the Assistant's gender expression are even mentioned makes your heart sink.
We can see their skin colour. But as long as they do the roles justice. That matters no more than the rest.
I wouldn't have known that either she's trans or that he's gay, until it was brought up. Yes, he's 'flamboyant' but the Doc's meant to be quirky. So that didn't have to mean anything.
Let them both turn in a great performance, and no one worth listening to will give a damn about the rest.
do the bbc , bad wolf or sony really think that is is going to bring back millions of lost fans to the show? they are delusional . i am now off to watch myself in the dark knight trilogy and then some tom baker classic stories ( real doctor who).
Tom Baker Ones, Classic 👍 No Disrespect To Peter Purves, Just Before My Time but i'd watch his ones too
All they care about is brainwashing kids mate
I've watched all of Tom Baker's Doctor Who and don't really understand the appeal. I think he's an OK Doctor, but Patrick Troughton and Jon Pertwee are miles better
@@SuperHitman55 i guess i am a little bias towards toms doctor as he was the one i grew up with , i have seen them all and i agree that all the classic doctors were very good. but i know that tom baker is still very popular among fans , they all bought something different to the role while still maintaining that they were the same timelord.
Black gay Doctor, and trans assistant.
It's called doubling down. Truly desperate stuff.
The BBC are on life support.
People can defend it all they want on the likes of twatter. The viewers will dry up.
@Henry Andrews maybe you need to read it also because it's true.
The problem is that gays etc now run entertainment they have stuffed up everything welcome to your pipe dream , shite
@Henry Andrews I´m confused, are you saying its not a trans person?
Dr woke 🤮👎🏼
No way will watch this mess,
This is not a mess
@@thedoctor3161 lol , it will go down faster than Owen Jones in a gay bar on a Saturday night 😁
Dr Who, is now perfect, who is he , you can pick from the 57 Heinz genders, lets just hope they get their pronouns right,
@@paulmuaddib3470 You haven't see the first episode with the 14th Doctor I wonder why you say this is a mess
@@paulmuaddib3470 Maybe you are racist ?
We'll solve racism with anti-racism which is just more racism...
Will never watch it again, pathetic casting by bbc. Weird in fact.
@Henry Andrews come off it, the woke bbc heavily influenced the casting, i'm sure you watch their crap programmes and news, the weirdness is they are trying to marginalise the majority in this country and as soon as the license is scrapped tthey are finished.
Maybe it should be named Dr Woke
I don’t care now. The BBC have totally buggered up Doctor Who, a series we used to watch as a family. It’s now less than very poorly written rubbish with a lefty, woke agenda. What’s next? Jodi Whitaker being cast to pay Martin Luther King? Christopher Biggins being cast to play Tina Turner?
Scotty, ready for beaming. 🍷😎
Now that I would pay my licence fee to see.
Nothing to do with identity politics?.Has he been living under a stone all this time. I cannot abide the bbc
I was happy to hear Russell T Davies was coming back but it sounds like more of the same virtue signaling and lecturing we’ve come to expect as of late. Totally agree with Connor. The retcon was a complete disaster. William Hartnell is the FIRST DOCTOR WHO. PERIOD!
RTD will write better stories but what kind ? My worry is that people remember him from 2005 that was before these woke times. Looking at his output in the intervening time, it's all about pushing social identity, sexuality, gay , lesbian, trans etc and I fear he will so to speak 'push our faces in it' to make his point. If he wants to make his point DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE not in MY Dr Who. Bill was brilliant and I've hated everyone since !!! because there weren't The Doctor HE WAS, then everytime THEY became by good acting and writing The Doctor, this is something Jodie never did. I disliked her and the writing from the start, EXPECTED TO, but then she Never Grew into the Doctor, that is almost ALL down to the ***** that is Chibnall, she had no chance ! so to this day it colours my view of her in the role.
God knows I'm fearful of what is to come for I fear Russell T Davies the saviour could very easily become The Destroyer Of Doctor Who, it's in the balance
Totally agreed! Hartnell was my first doctor when I was a child.
Always - the First Doctor will be ALWAYS William Hartnell regardless what "they" say.
Wokery wasn't around when rtd helmed the show. Its possible this guy is woker than chinbolox
@@booster330 of course it was! It just wasn't as powerful then
The real problem isn’t being too woke, it’s the writers who seem hellbent on changing the lore in the worst ways possible and making terrible stories and bad characters.
Well that, and it’s too woke.
What? The stories and characters are the way they are BECAUSE of the woke agenda.
No, they are changing the lore BECAUSE they are woke. If the rumours that the First Doctor isn't William Hartnell - besides causing a shed load of issues - they have alienated every single fan who understood the lore.
Woke or not, it's over for DR.WHO.
@@kitfrew9983 If they keep going on the path they are going on then it will truly be over for Dr Who. Make Dr who great again.
Well done Connor for telling the truth.
They say they want diversity and now the whole new doctor who cast is black .. the doctor and the assistant. They will make the daleks supporters of blm and if the daleks try kill them they will pull the race card 😂 “if you kill me you are racist”
You’ve clearly never watched doctor who
It’s not one of the UK’s most loved television shows anymore, as stated it’s ratings are through the floor and still falling … wonder why? 🤔
This is because of Chibnall. His writing was awful. But Russell T Davies is back so Doctor Who will be fantastic again
No, it's not. Ratings are down across the board. It's chart position is still healthy.
@@CromCromCrom But when RTD will be back, there will be a boost in the viewing figure.
We need Stephen Moffat back, if nothing else but to keep RTD in check, let’s not forget, Stephen wrote some brilliant stories too. The two writers bounced off each other, each one pipping the other to the post. I think there are smarter ways of introducing black time lords and alien assistants, Romana was a fantastic character and a time lord. There was also Kamelion, an android who was never fully realised due to ( as Peter says ) poor special effects. It’s a science fiction show, a show that allows us the time to forget about all the earthly problems and was an healthy distraction! prove us wrong!
tv is dying in general
Connor is right, and tells some interesting truths.
But the camp black person (didn't catch their pronouns) said he had his knickers in a twist, so it doesn't count. Yet again the left goes on the attack because they have no arguments to support their ideology.
don't care if they cast a black or white person in a role, in fact I'd go as far as saying I like more black actors cast in roles that portray a positive image. I mean Idris Elba as Luther was great and is a positive image of a black man on television. But if you are suggesting that in a 90% white country that you must have 49% ethnic minorities, 49% LGBTQ people and 2% white straight people then I think you're just being ridiculous.
I agree with you but I must say that we really have moved on now, from black actors only being cast in negative roles, for you to feel the need to still espouse it.
I don't mind being inclusive as long as its because the said actor is the best choice for the roll and not just cast because of their gender,race,or sex
Which he's not as far as I know
The Doctor is British - it should have been a British actor. The fact that Adrian Lester and Paterson Joseph passed on this or weren't asked - both excellent actors with universal appeal - indicates the "best actor" for the role wasn't selected. Maybe the "best we can afford" but definitely not the best for the role.
@@rubix4195 oh I never said he was the best for the roll I just ment I'm okay with diversity If the actor is the best for the roll
@@rubix4195 How can you say that the Doctor is British, he isn't even from the planet Earth. He is from Gallifrey.
like many other bbc programmes, dr who has gone from great to unwatchable and has been ruined by very dodgy storylines and box ticking nonsense
It's all about normalising woke and trans issues to younger people. Older people don't tend to watch it.
Plus I've never heard of these "actors".
I agree with Connor, it will be a miracle if the show pulls itself back after this.
Doctor who died in 2017. What took its place was a load of 💩 what with the poor acting by its lead actress and the piss poor writing of pure wokeness. Admittedly I did give it a few episodes at first to change my mind. But it didn't seem like Doctor who to me.
Likely most people will tune out just because it went woke.
@@DarkAngel2512 Yep and they probably wont care either, as we the customers have no say in the matter! 🙄
@@johnnyhollis9977 if enough tune out they will. Netflix did tell its workers to find new jobs if they felt offended by anything they chose to air. That was in response to the Chapelle outrage.
@@DarkAngel2512 🤞👍
I don't watch TV especially the BBC so I refuse to buy a license. If Dr Who was still good it would be worth buying a license to watch it but no way am I paying to watch the rubbish Dr Who has become.
The retcon was absolutely appalling. William Hartnell will forever be the First Doctor in my book, no matter how the Woke BBC want to spin it. The Doctor isn't even a Timelord anymore according to the retcon. It was designed to alienate old viewers of the show and in that it was very successful. It's almost like they hate the old fan base and want them to get lost.
Which is self-defeating because we're the ones with the cash to buy the goodies, memorabilia, collectibles.
That's exactly what the retcon was designed to do. BBC want a new audience, old fans haven't figured that out yet
@@booster330 Not saying you're wrong because that seems to be the status quo in modern entertainment, but from a business standpoint, it's a really stupid business strategy.
@@booster330 new fans it didnt even pull in new fans either
That doesn't matter when production is funded by the public. BBC don't care how big the new audience is, only that it's the right audience
Pure box ticking from the BBC
Doctor Who as bin a dead franchise for some time now
Nope. RTD is back
Who remembers when Dr. Who was fantastic Sci-Fi for children and not spoiled woke 20 somethings … !
That's who the children grew up into! The BBC has been grooming children for centuries with this tripe starting with that "Wiliam Shaked Spear" rubbish.
Remember the 70s episode "The Green Death" that tackled issues such as climate change or Daleks - Nazi based villains? Or when the writers wanted the 80s companion Ace to be bisexual? Guess Doctor Who has always been for "woke" 20 somethings.
@@jimii.doctor in the 70’s and 80’s there was no such thing as a ‘woke 20 something)
@@andyxox4168 that's exactly the point
@@jimii.doctor sorry, misread the sarcasm 🤪
Well done Peter purvis, nothing like sitting on the fence and pandering to the woke brigade...Dr who R.I.P
Peter purvis hasnt being anything since the original doctor
The guy is just trying to stay relevant lol. I wasn't a huge fan of Steven anyway
@@DavidTyler He was on Blue Peter!
He sounded like a low IQ dithering Namby Pamby . trying not to upset anyone, fact dodging and generally being a soft touch, It's sickening watching a traitor pandering to the enemy. a disease that has captured many.
Dan, Peter Purves's surname is pronounced Purvis, not pervs.
The Doctor was always a white male. If he were to be regenerated, logic tells us he would be regenerated as a white male. It is regeneration, not transformation. Some animals can grow new limbs or even be cut into pieces and regenerate. They regenerate into what they were before. They don't change colour or change sex.
The writers of Doctor Who have taken huge liberties with the overall story. They have made it political, espousing left wing ideology and all manner of perversity (remember the inter-species marriage in the episode with Ardal O'Hanlon, of Father Ted fame, and the lesbian relationship between a human woman and a lizard female). The last series got a rating of 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. I have to admit, it was the first series I couldn't bring myself to watch. I didn't care any more. I doubt if I'll watch it ever again. It's too far gone.
Sadly, I won't watch it either, after watching it since I was 10..
I started watching at 11 in 2005 and stopped after the Timeless Children destroyed the foundations and haven’t seen it since, and from the reactions to the decline in viewership it looks as though I’m glad I didn’t waste my time. Initially I was hoping RTD would bring it back to how he had made it, but it’s clear he’s carrying on the same narrative from the Chibnall/Whittaker run, the 2 best outcomes for the programme now is for it to either go on a long hiatus or it gets cancelled.
The only time I’ll ever watch Dr Who again is when the Timeless Children is erased and acknowledge William Hartnell as the First Doctor.
@@smithyblue your experience is the same as mine! I was sad to discover that my son who was initially as annoyed by the Timeless Child as me, now loves it.
I agree with you about best outcomes!
Pwecko, well there are rumours, they are about to ruin Bond by doing very similar.
@@blueband8114 nooooooooooo !
Of course it's gone woke - the writing has been awful, casting is dubious - that's why doctor who fans don't watch it anymore - the quality has gone in favour of a BBC agenda.
Not watch it since Peter Capaldi! I've been a WHO'VIAN Fan since I was a kid, watching the 60's 70's 80's but the BBC As destroyed the franchise. Disgusting how they destroyed a fantastic show for preaching identity politics 🙄
I definitely won't be watching and I hate to say but this is all heading to a black James Bond
The next Doctor Who is rumoured to be Gary Glitter.
Nope.
@@thedoctor3161 Jonathan King?
Ru Paul fkin stick on 👳
@@mezzoca8110 Nope
@@thedoctor3161 Stewart Hall?
Only the BBC could even imagine Brexit was the reason there hadn't been a female Doctor.
I'm a female and I only saw 15 minutes of the programme, I say the programme because it is no longer Dr Who, it's become a political programme of Dr Whoever.
Cant wait to see Tom Hardy cast as John Shaft .
I cant wait till we see The Rock as wonder woman
@@DavidTyler Hell yeah😂
My two kids used to adore this show. Even they are now completely apathetic regarding it’s existence. And if anyone believes that the collective hiring of a black gay actor and a black trans ‘woman’ isn’t woke and a box ticking exercise, they’re delusional.
Nice lie, but you don't have kids.
No, actually you're delusional. Being black and trans are just facts about her, you thinking anyone hired her for such a prestigious shows as Doctor Who for anything remotely related to her skin color or gender orientation and not her acting talent alone is delusional. You people claim it's box ticking EVERY TIME a person who isn't white or straight is cast in ANYTHING and I'm so sick of it, it's simply not true, and you actually genuinely are delusional if *you* think otherwise.
@@lexruptor Abigail and Isaac are two of the most socially aware teens I know and are 15 and 19 respectively. Weirdo.
@@lexruptor As the great man said 'everything woke turns to Sh1t3. You are the delusional one.
@Dejias bigot or racist😬 or just say everything because it's against a 👳😶
I think you know, it is. This is the final straw. Watch the ratings plummet, now. They simply do not, learn.
rattlesnakes 🍷😎
Rip Dr who
No scare's in it and lots of stuff about Trump and bexit, so i stopped watching it. Its awful and most fans have stopped watching it.
just to add to the boxticking debate, even rtd , moffat and chibnall were boxticking choices, these people were handpicked especially for the show by the elite at the bbc.
The BBC chased Chinbollocks for about 5 years to be showrunner and he turned it down many times but when they gave in and gave him complete control he took the job unfortunately.
I have rarely encountered a facial expression as smug as the contributor on the far left (ironic), before his even opened his mouth.
Peter Purvis was one of the Blue Peter presenters of my childhood. So we should be able to rely on him knowing the value of these Great British shows.
Albie Amankona, is as much a conservative as Kier Starmer... Frankly he is a little to much of a political racial opportunist for my liking.
I’ve never heard of him but this clip tells me all I need to know.
he's a woke liberal in disguise..
i wont be watching the new doctor as i have given up but i will watch the classic show first doctor hartnell to mccoy last classic doctor.
Just a little info on falling rating, When the companion Bill was bought into the series in 2010 there was barely an episode when she didn't announce that she was a Lesbian (Identity Politics) Steven Moffat was told by the BBC to add in WOKE nonscience and they pushed Capaldi out he wanted to carry on but they wanted a FEMALE Doctor .
Moffat and Capaldi were the last line of defence against the woke bullshit. Unfortunately, they couldn't hold the line forever. At least Moffat made sure all the loose ends were tied up and brought the series full circle. The fanbase at large agrees that Capaldi was the final Doctor.
I don't remember an episode where we had her going on about her sexuality. It was used in Pilot, Extremis and the Doctor Falls. 3 times, is that too much? Edit: do you research it was 2017 not 2010.
Watching a BBC nature programme about the disappearance of butterflies from the countryside they managed to work the Notting hill carnival into it
"nonscience"? About a two hearted alien from another world who travels regularly through a time vortex and is effectively immortal through regeneration? I think you might find that's science fiction. Also, when asked on the matter, the Doctor points out "we’re billions of years beyond your petty human obsession with gender and its associated stereotypes."
Bill Potts was a lesbian. That, however, was never the main point of the character. It was just one part of her identity and contrary to what's been implied above it wasn't rammed down the audience's throat just for the sake of making sure we didn't forget who she was. There was much more to the character than simply being gay, just as there was more to any straight character than simply being straight. Bill Potts wasn't presented as being "better" because of who she was, Bill Potts didn't lecture anyone on why there is something wrong with you if you're not like her. In fact, during Bill's tenure as the Companion, it was the Doctor who started getting lecture-y in what proved to be a softening up of the audience for the vicious attack on white hetero maleness that followed. Pearl Mackie did a fantastic job with Bill Potts, who was a genuine strong female character with NO agenda, and that's precisely why she was killed off the moment the Chibnall monster took over.
And if it wasn't obvious before, the writing was most unmistakably on the wall in Capaldi's final story, when the First Doctor was outrageously re-written as a misogynist, just so the Big Brother Corporation's virtue-signalling department could berate him for it.
Whittaker's Doctor is clearly just a vehicle for the sexual frustrations of Chris Chibnall - a straight, white man who is so creepy and ugly he can't get a girl and is so desperate for a shag he pretends to be a militant feminist in the hope that one of the man-haters he seeks to mollify will take pity on him.
I laughed when Dan pronounced Peter's surname "Perves" and not "Pur-viss".
That's your take away from this?
Yes they have so glad I cancelled my licence… keep going bbc and cancel your own future.
Connor is absolutely correct and perfectly described the BBC and its current woke stance.
Actually, both you and Connor are so incredibly wrong you make the rest of us collectively groan at your ignorance. You call anything that has a shred of integrity "woke", but woke doesn't mean what you think it does, what's woke is what's hip, what's with it, what's goin down, you know, what's cool, or it was, until you racist pigs took it and perverted it. Now if someone is "woke" it means they aren't stupid, and they have integrity, which is apparently a problem for your kind, as pathetic as that is.
What makes you think Doctor Who is just now "woke" and political? Remember the 70s episode "The Green Death" that tackled issues such as climate change or Daleks - Nazi based villains? Or when the writers wanted the 80s companion Ace to be bisexual?
@@jimii.doctor This woke indoctrination of children is Child abuse
@@philipbaker6567 teaching kids to accept others is child abuse?
@@jimii.doctor Yeah but then it was subtle now it's rammed down your throat
It’s not because they are black & trans, it’s because they are the best British actors in the last 2 years. Ummm yeah ok right, I’ll fall for that one. I wonder how many straight white actors they interviewed?
RTD is gay so it Gatwa and you olny put two and two together and you know why he got the job
The ratings have fallen steeply since a woman took over the role. Now a black man is not going to do much better. I therefore believe it has gone too woke. I used to love Dr. Who, but now its not watchable.
Why would a black man do worse than a white man?
But Russell T Davies is back so it will be watchable again :)
I finished with Peter Capaldi. Hopefully this will flop, don't want politics shoved on me thanks and people are sick of it
The BBC are patting themselves on the back.....every box ticked at a stroke.
Next on GB News: 'Pope rumoured to be Catholic'.
Yes. Stopped watching the new series altogether after Capaldi, it’s completely lost it.
Back to Classic Who for me :)
Nope RTD is back :)
Agreed! To me it ended with Capaldi..
@@Victorina32 But David Tennant and Catherine Tate are back with Bernard Cribbins. And Russell T Davies too. Doctor Who is not dead
@@Victorina32 And Ncuti Gatwa is a fantastic actor to be The Doctor
@@thedoctor3161 that remains to be seen
They don't make this show for people like me anymore.
They don't for me either.
I'm a mixed race, adult straight female.
Dr Who ended for me when Tom Baker left . the first four Drs were the best . its gone downhill ever since now its just political nonsense
This whole damn planet is a political nonsense
lol as usual
I'm a Darlek .I used to be terrified of the Doctor but now I am laughing my head off.I just watch out where he/she/ God knows what sticks his sonic screw driver.
Was.. exterminate exterminate
Now.. triggered triggered
Dr Who, love it or hate it, it IS what it IS. If you change it to something else, its no longer Dr Who. For me, that is exactly what has happened, it is now Dr Who in name only.
I disagree with Peter Purves. Casting an actor as the Doctor, is not just giving someone a job, its not like saying "my doctor is black". The Doctor is a CHARACTER, having been played by more than a dozen different actors, all playing the SAME character, albeit with varying eccentricities, but basically the same person. Its not like the companion who is a different person and can be anything or anyone. Its not like being a newsreader ho can be whatever you want, as its a NEW person. And science fiction is no excuse for doing "anything you like". There is a "Whoniverse" in which the rules are well established.
Its the BBC, does that answer your question
It went woke many year ago.
WAY TOO WOKE stopped watching it when he butchered himself into a woman. The first Dr was the late great sir Peter Cushing RIP
Peter cushion isnt The Doctor and wasnt part of the show he wasnt cannon to the show it was William hartnell who was the first doctor the original you might say
I stop watching when they made a woman the Dr. Certainly will not be watching this one either. When the focus is on being woke with casting and story lines then it is over for me.
When is a white man going to play Malcolm X, Pele or Muhammad Ali?
RTD mentioned diversity, being anti government and all the woke bs in his interview at the BAFTAS.
For me it started losing its way when Matt Smith's doctor started snogging his companions. The problem isn't the actors, it's the weak, insipid, politically loaded story lines with poorly constructed characters. The writers only seem to care about placating the Guardian TV critics.
It should be sci-fi. Not political fantasy sci-fi
Doctor Who (and Sci-fi in general) has always been incredibly political. Have you seen 70s Doctor Who? Or generally all of Doctor Who. Very political.
@@jimii.doctor Political commentary, political ideas or woke politics?
@@edmundtrebus4084 All, as Doctor Who tried to have "woke" politics in the 80s, with the companion Ace, though the BBC didn't allow it. Political commentary in the 70s with the episode "The Green Death" for example, talking about climate change and stuff. And political ideas with the Daleks.
@@jimii.doctor still not the same as the woke rubbish now.
I hung out and was ready to give the new doctor a go but when they announced full on alphabet cast l gave up - they can keep it.
The BBC's next production is 'Their Finest Hour' starring Lenny Henry as Winston Churchill.
Ha ha
Yet more woke garbage i won't be watching.
You obviously haven't seen new Star Trek, they just wanna get on US streming platforms they dont care if people watch it.
I read the original Dr Who book at school over 40 years.
It never once mentioned that the doctor was a black bare arsed boxer.
The ratings demonstrate clearly what people think. I wish DW the very best of luck.
Peter Purvis may not see Gender/diversity substitutions etc as an obstacle to us being entertained...Because he is a nice bloke wanting to appear as open minded.... But 90% of viewers are sick of light entertainment being used as a medium for lecturing by a select few who see themselves as our moral superiors.... Russell Davis is essentially acting like Moses remaking the world for "his people" using his uniquely privileged and influential position.
Peter Purvis like most actors has to work in the business. If he's seen to say anything negative, doors that were open will soon be closed permanently. Cancel culture is in full flow
dr who is now dead to me 😕
The bbc are worker than woke. I used to love Dr Who, I’m afraid I won’t be watching it again. It’s just so weird what they’ve done to our iconic program.
What makes you think Doctor Who is "woke"?
@@jimii.doctor That echo chamber you use as a bomb shelter is one hell of a secure bunker 🤣
@@jimii.doctor 👳 that enough pumpkin 😶
Of-course it has, that's why the viewing figures have gone through the floor, bad enough they used a woman last time (breaking with over 50 years of convention)and what a shite job she made of it too, now, full of box tickers, and RTD'S CRAP scripts, overall appalling.
Yes plain and simple but I have nothing against the new actor just don't think he suits the role, just like the new resident evil on Netflix which has had a huge back lash # go woke go broke
Switch off, total trash now.
Been a life long fan of Dr Who 53 yrs old my favourites being Jon Pertwee Tom Baker Matt Smith and David Tennant gave up on it due to its virtue signalling and wokeness, just a thought I wonder just how woke the Bbc would be if it was a subscription only service and had to rely on viewing figures?
The tennant era had gay folk all over the place, what the fuck are you talking about?
Time to switch off the BBC
Been a Lifelong fan of Dr who and I'm in my 40s but unfortunately its time the show closed its curtains again at least until all the wokeness is taken out of it.
just admit youre racist. The guy is a terrific actor and isn't qualified in the racist eyes of GB news and Dailymail readers on the basis of his hue
What's woke about it?
@@Dan_Therapist feeble to try pulling the slanderous racist card but I lost interest when capaldi was on 🖕
@Henry Andrews yes all the wokeness haven't you heard? Ask Google if you dont watch it, wouldn't waste my time arguing with someone who pretends wokeness isn't a thing.
@Henry Andrews if you read my comment which I'll stand by you'd understand I've watched Dr who over 40 years so if you have more knowledge than me about Dr who that's something you'd have to ask yourself. I won't argue with someone who promotes what the bbc are doing so I'm wise enough not to waste my time doing so. Good day.
Yes it is to do with what they are, that's what the the BBC do!
Peter Purvis saying that Jodie Whittaker was very good says all you need to about him.
He is getting on a bit .He was probably thinking of Jodie Lawrence.
Exactly what I thought. The idiot clearly wouldn't know a decent actor if they punched him in the face.
Bye Bye doctor who …..
RTD is mayor of woke, he is completely deranged now, not the same guy who bought the show back with a bang in 2005.
Yes he is. He's exactly the same guy; but now instead of being subversive within the mainstream BBC, he's part of the Twitter-pandering, Guardian-reading management.
The woke stuff has always been in there, from Episode 1: Rose, but it just flew under the radar for most, then when he left it went away largely in the Moffatt era (unfortunately the writing also took a downturn) before the BBC management shifts and general wokery started to push the agenda more in Capaldi's run.
Just take a look at Mickey, at Donna's fake husband (then her real one after her memory loss), the copper in Blink and the eventual husband of Sally - all have one thing in common... Then look at the "best actor for the role" new Doctor. All RTD's time.
Noel Clarke perhaps was just considered a standout in terms of casting - could easily be understood, but two of the others are just pictures on a mantel and in a wallet; so they are deliberate, conscious choices by the producers to portray those relationships.
We need to stop funding the BBC until they give us what we want and that includes stopping buying their magazines. Would you go to a shop that sells nothing that you want and still buy what is sells? Of course you wouldn't so stop funding the BBC until they give us what we want.
Wonder why they don't make a totally different program with these same actors instead of hijacking other programs..
Put it thus way if they made Mr T white in the 80s A-team I would of been really annoyed !!
Switch off BBC full stop !!
Dr Who reached peak woke in an episode in the series before last, where they had a black male character, Ryan, an Asian female character, Yaz, and of course a female Doctor in a storyline revolving around two main characters who were gay men. I can't think of any more boxes to tick apart from trans.
That didn't bother me near as much as the forced transgender, doctor already has to deal with being male and female enough did they have to scream "were woke BBC?!?!"
@@Michael-yx3np By forced transgender you mean Yasmin Finney, a relatively small actor picked up because she just had her big break and isn't even confirmed to be a trans character? Good fucking god the amount of straw men in this comment section could supply a farm for an eon.
@@gruntskome366 no i wasn't actually, I was referring to next incarnation, but an lgbtq has played a major part in dr who since Jack Harkness. Represented by a small very very whiny portion of the population.... too woke!
@@Michael-yx3np What the fuck are you on about? It took you two months to come up with this incoherent babbling where the only thing that makes sense is you spewing out Woke because you have no other fucking argument?
Hmmm, Bond is going to go the same way. This is just Cultural Appropriation, Downton has already succomed
Used to watch dr who with the whole family then cappaldi left and we watched one episode with Jodie Whittaker then sadly no more.
Its time to rest WHO for a while
The next person to be cast as the Doctor will be disabled. In a wheelchair.
I'm not even joking.
Will be great to see them battle Davros . . . evenly matched . . .
Will the next Doctor have a severe learning disability as well? perhaps a non English speaker?
It'll be a russian transgender.in the bag
a handicapped small person asian thats transgendered with a lisp
Davros and Doctor in wheelchairs would be awesome if they duel like the wheelchair scene in Scary Movie 2
Has there been a left handed Doctor Who ??? If not then its important this is brought to the publics attention .
Why woke decide another uk classic gone
What makes this "woke"?
Why are so many of you illiterate
Dr.Who is gone.
Went too woke with Chibnall, Whittaker and Walsh.
Acting like Moffat didn’t make the master into a female with Missy series 8-10 so why is it any different if Chibnall made the doctor a female too?
Walsh was the best part of it
yes it's gone totally woke don't watch
Excellent discussion. I remember William Hartnell, terrified me as we all huddled on the settee as kids. I agree totally about the script, Connor is spot on in his comments.
I remember him, I was 11 years old, I identified with Susan, and my grandfathers had both died before I was born, so I wondered if grandfathers were always grouchy!