Behind the scenes description of how CWU's "Nick On The Rocks" team communicated with animators Donald and Ray at Newlands & Company in Portland, Oregon. nc3d.com/
This is honestly the best content. I live in London UK and I can't get enough of USA geography. I am so jealous of you guys. You're country is so beautiful it has every type of geography from deserts to glaciers to canyons to plains wow oh wow.
If interested, come visit me, I live in Eastern Washington and we will spend a day touring dry falls and many other areas left from the Missoula Floods.
Nick I have to say, if I would have had you for a geology teacher in high school, I would have enjoyed it more. & like you I grew up just off Hwy 12 in Mn (twin cities) Thank you for all the great shows you have shared on RUclips with us.
Ice age geology is facinating. Enjoyed seeing how Dry Falls may have looked during the Ice age floods. The fast moving RV was a fun addition. 😀 Keep up the good work!
This is not a criticism, but a suggestion. First of all, the animators did a great job and I congratulate them on that. Now all we need are some ice rafted boulders crashing over the falls, and some white frothiness added to the brown water.
One of the reasons I didn't like geology too much in school is the vast time scales and the difficulty imagining the causes, that animation is amazing, brings geology to life, I think this would be great for teaching tools at schools.
I have learned SO MUCH just watching your lectures, I wish you were closer so that I could attend some. Just by watching, I have been able to see different rock formations around Prineville, Oregon, Smith Rock, and Lake Billy Chinook. It's amazing. If I had known Geology was so interesting, I would have gotten involved at a younger age.
I just love the history of Eastern WA! Spent my summer months, for years, at Sop Lake and had some old timers tell me about the Columbia River and ice flows and so much more. It gave me a life long interest in soil, rocks, what came before us....this is WONDERFUL to watch!
Absolutely amazing Dr. Zentner! We are fixing up and gearing up for a trip to Dry Falls this coming weekend. I can't tell you how much I appreciate this background information as it makes it so meaningful! We live in an incredible place!
Love it! You talked in your lecture how this was made, and it's nice to see some background creation besides just the final cut. I still gasp and laugh at the RV though. Didn't know water was so difficult to animate...maybe explains the lack of ice and boulders in icebergs that would really show the massive and fast excavation of all that basalt.
I was just there yesterday and was thinking 'someone needs to do a CGI version...' and here it is. Also, RIP RV guy, he's barreling along the road DOWN into the coulee.
I think Randall stated that the flood water was over 300 ft deep. Animation is great but I think the animators were conservative on the amount of water shown. The falls would have been a minor bump! The shear magnitude of the floods were much larger than animated. Just my thought
Dude thank you, been fantasizing, trying to fathom or even imagine the size, and depth of the Missoula floods. And as u said very conservative considering the impact(s) theory which would flash melt even more ice, so more water. But wow this is stunning and I’m going to save it to like 3 different playlists 🤙🏼
Holy shite! I remember driving down the road and half way there my eyes popped out of my head, "OMG, will you look at that ?!" LOL! I thought it was going to be a lot smaller than I see this HUGE, gorgeous, beautiful, devastation! I think my mouth was open for a full 30 minutes~Ha! LOVED the animation! My mouth is hanging open again! Betsy and John xx
Wonderful stuff but I think maybe this would have been one of the smaller Missoula floods. The animation doesn’t look like the wave is 350 feet high as it breaches the falls.
Bruce (maybe) could have flown that drone up to at least 350 feet AGL, and modelers use a flood depth closer to that. How deep did the modeler's use? Maybe 100 feet? I still love the animation. The 'next version' (The Sequel) could show that the rim recedes under a deep layer of water, making the 'falls' more of a ripple, so I was told. Not an insignificant ripple, but not cascading water at the surface, allegedly. :)
Love the video, Nick. I wish they could have shown the movement of the erratics that came with the ice. I have a 3 ton erratic near my home in West Linn Or. They say it came from Montana.
I'd love to see what more modern technology such as realtime raytracing and the newer tech that could simulate the actual head of the flood and the debris in it.
Dry falls started out not much different than a creek type of depression just uneven ground is all, and it spread big time really fast getting wider an deeper. Just softer soil.
Amazing! I agree, the animation looks very conservative, but It looks like both limits of the animators and tools they were using. It just doesn't look 350 feet high at the point just before it spills over. It starts tapering from the start point but really I would think you would need to do a full simulationfrom the dam to that area to get a idea of what it would have looked like. Given the sheer size of that you might have a better chance if you made it much smaller and then rendered out that small section. That said, truly remarkable animation as is! Just from casually studying what it takes to render bodies of water, I can't even imagine how hard this would have been.
The problem with this, is that the animation is taking place over the post-flood landscape - so it's hardly a representation of how it might have been.
Well played. I love this area and the history. I am heading back to Dry Falls tomorrow for the first camping trip since the virus lockdown. How about that for some history also?
I'm still wondering how those cliffs were formed in the first place. Were they there before the floods started happening? Or are those sheer cliffs a product of flood after flood?
It's cool and all, maybe could do a better job these days, but you're modeling the water flow off the current geological features which weren't there when these floods came. These floods supposedly carved out these features so I think it should look different, with an element of timelapse added in to show the force of the water and the erosion carving out the landscape until it looks like it does today. Maybe even include the water receding and drying up. No I'm not a programmer or anything but I do know they've come a long way with water simulations. It doesn't have to be as good as say the VFX in some movies that use that program, but it's a lot easier to do overall. It's a bit misleading though because it's based off current geological features.
the floods did carve out the falls but since you had dozens of floods sweeping through the area the position and shape of the falls changed. what we see today is the last "footprint" of the floods. if we had another additional flood sweep through dry falls would not look the same as it does toady.
Ok, the animation is flawed from the beginning. The surface of the ground was relatively flat. The water surging down is what created the landscape. DUH!
Series of floods from the puny lake missoula my rear end. It was a comet impact and it happened in a few short months. Anyone saying otherwise has their head in the sand.
But that's not at all how it happened! The falls were not there until the flood remember? I must say it's a rather useless animation. Also you do not know if it was multiple floods! It may very well have been only one. Nobody knows.
This is honestly the best content. I live in London UK and I can't get enough of USA geography. I am so jealous of you guys. You're country is so beautiful it has every type of geography from deserts to glaciers to canyons to plains wow oh wow.
And here I am having seen the ripples still left behind from glacial lake Missoula thinking, man I would love to explode the foreshore in London
If interested, come visit me, I live in Eastern Washington and we will spend a day touring dry falls and many other areas left from the Missoula Floods.
Nick I have to say, if I would have had you for a geology teacher in high school, I would have enjoyed it more. & like you I grew up just off Hwy 12 in Mn (twin cities) Thank you for all the great shows you have shared on RUclips with us.
Truly amazing. I have tried to imagine the wall of water many times. Thank you.
Love Mr Zentner. miss watching his lectures. Hope he starts posting more of them
Well, there are quite a few already. :)
@@ivarhusa No such thing as too much Mr Nick though!
@@joebainter You probably already know this but Mr. Zentner has basically every video he's ever been a part of posted on his website :)
Ice age geology is facinating. Enjoyed seeing how Dry Falls may have looked during the Ice age floods. The fast moving RV was a fun addition. 😀 Keep up the good work!
Yeah, I love how the RV provides proper scale to the speed (and size) of the advancing floodwater.
This is not a criticism, but a suggestion. First of all, the animators did a great job and I congratulate them on that. Now all we need are some ice rafted boulders crashing over the falls, and some white frothiness added to the brown water.
Good job Nick. Good to see you back.
One of the reasons I didn't like geology too much in school is the vast time scales and the difficulty imagining the causes, that animation is amazing, brings geology to life, I think this would be great for teaching tools at schools.
I have learned SO MUCH just watching your lectures, I wish you were closer so that I could attend some. Just by watching, I have been able to see different rock formations around Prineville, Oregon, Smith Rock, and Lake Billy Chinook. It's amazing. If I had known Geology was so interesting, I would have gotten involved at a younger age.
I just love the history of Eastern WA! Spent my summer months, for years, at Sop Lake and had some old timers tell me about the Columbia River and ice flows and so much more. It gave me a life long interest in soil, rocks, what came before us....this is WONDERFUL to watch!
GREAT job, to all who worked on it.
It would be cool to stand at the view site and see this animation with 3-D glasses. That could actually work in a Museum
Great idea!
Fantastic re-creation. I’m gonna go up there this Spring-Summer and check these magnificent markers of geological history.
Absolutely amazing Dr. Zentner! We are fixing up and gearing up for a trip to Dry Falls this coming weekend. I can't tell you how much I appreciate this background information as it makes it so meaningful! We live in an incredible place!
Holy shit. I guarantee this video has 1 mil views by the end of the year.
Like 10x the power of all rivers.. Truly beyond conception..
I live in Portugal it is amazing ti see this videos of geology in Washington
Now that's awsome good work you can see the till at the basin that ripped of the edge
Love it! You talked in your lecture how this was made, and it's nice to see some background creation besides just the final cut. I still gasp and laugh at the RV though.
Didn't know water was so difficult to animate...maybe explains the lack of ice and boulders in icebergs that would really show the massive and fast excavation of all that basalt.
I was just there yesterday and was thinking 'someone needs to do a CGI version...' and here it is.
Also, RIP RV guy, he's barreling along the road DOWN into the coulee.
Happy New Year, Nick- - that animation is freakin' _awesome_ . Drive faster, little RV, faster!!
Awesome!! Thank you, Nic. I appreciate all the videos clips that you have done for us.
I think Randall stated that the flood water was over 300 ft deep. Animation is great but I think the animators were conservative on the amount of water shown. The falls would have been a minor bump! The shear magnitude of the floods were much larger than animated. Just my thought
People don't realize how much water was backed up and for how long, over and over, and over, and over, etc
I'd have shown both dirty water and clear water just for depth perception. Absolutely insane.
This was so dope 😩
This is the stuff that keeps me awake at night and it is amazing
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Dude thank you, been fantasizing, trying to fathom or even imagine the size, and depth of the Missoula floods. And as u said very conservative considering the impact(s) theory which would flash melt even more ice, so more water. But wow this is stunning and I’m going to save it to like 3 different playlists 🤙🏼
Holy shite! I remember driving down the road and half way there my eyes popped out of my head, "OMG, will you look at that ?!" LOL! I thought it was going to be a lot smaller than I see this HUGE, gorgeous, beautiful, devastation! I think my mouth was open for a full 30 minutes~Ha! LOVED the animation! My mouth is hanging open again! Betsy and John xx
That was really neat 😁👍🏻
I sure wish that I was younger and smart enough to do a animation that nice because I sure could use it in my RUclips channel
You rock Nick
Never too late sir
@@Mano.G well thank you. I'm 61 and software well some have become smarter then me. At least Nick had someone else do his lol
@@Mano.G Also he has a ton more videos up if you're interested
I would have liked to have seen this full animation of not only going down this but then also going down the Columbia Gorge
I've been watching and re-watching all your lectures. Please post more📚and thank you for doing so. I love rocks💛
Loved the visuals. You guys are amazing.
Nice animation and thank you!
lol i thought the RV was a tiny sedan pulling a huge camper in reverse!
Excellent animation.
Wish I could like this twice.📚
It needs a few erratics tumbling along with it.
This would be awesome disaster film footage!
Wonderful stuff but I think maybe this would have been one of the smaller Missoula floods. The animation doesn’t look like the wave is 350 feet high as it breaches the falls.
Bruce (maybe) could have flown that drone up to at least 350 feet AGL, and modelers use a flood depth closer to that. How deep did the modeler's use? Maybe 100 feet? I still love the animation. The 'next version' (The Sequel) could show that the rim recedes under a deep layer of water, making the 'falls' more of a ripple, so I was told. Not an insignificant ripple, but not cascading water at the surface, allegedly. :)
great work! and just imagine adding VR view to this!
I enjoy your videos. I moved to Moses Lake from south MS. The geology of the area fascinates me
This video is insane.. 😮
AWESOME!!!
Been awhile, Nick. Happy New Year!
Love the video, Nick. I wish they could have shown the movement of the erratics that came with the ice. I have a 3 ton erratic near my home in West Linn Or. They say it came from Montana.
Well done, so realistic!
I slowed this down to half speed, and it is even more realistic!!!
And now we know why salmon don't hang around for summer ice age floods :)
Great animation! Now do an interactive elevation map anyone can use to look up their theories about sea levels and timelines , or archeology...
Very cool
very nice
This is an awesome video recreation of the flood, but where is all the galcial ice that would have been on the leading edge?
I'd love to see what more modern technology such as realtime raytracing and the newer tech that could simulate the actual head of the flood and the debris in it.
If anything, that's not enough water. Was much much higher.
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That animation had to be from one of the lesser floods. Maybe the last one that came through there via glacial Lake Columbia.
Quality content
Dry falls started out not much different than a creek type of depression just uneven ground is all, and it spread big time really fast getting wider an deeper. Just softer soil.
Amazing! I agree, the animation looks very conservative, but It looks like both limits of the animators and tools they were using. It just doesn't look 350 feet high at the point just before it spills over. It starts tapering from the start point but really I would think you would need to do a full simulationfrom the dam to that area to get a idea of what it would have looked like. Given the sheer size of that you might have a better chance if you made it much smaller and then rendered out that small section.
That said, truly remarkable animation as is! Just from casually studying what it takes to render bodies of water, I can't even imagine how hard this would have been.
Cool!
The problem with this, is that the animation is taking place over the post-flood landscape - so it's hardly a representation of how it might have been.
This is great but in a few years simulations like this will be modeled much more accurately.
I've always wanted to know what it looked like...
Well played. I love this area and the history. I am heading back to Dry Falls tomorrow for the first camping trip since the virus lockdown. How about that for some history also?
You Rock
WOW!!!
I'm still wondering how those cliffs were formed in the first place. Were they there before the floods started happening? Or are those sheer cliffs a product of flood after flood?
It's cool and all, maybe could do a better job these days, but you're modeling the water flow off the current geological features which weren't there when these floods came. These floods supposedly carved out these features so I think it should look different, with an element of timelapse added in to show the force of the water and the erosion carving out the landscape until it looks like it does today. Maybe even include the water receding and drying up. No I'm not a programmer or anything but I do know they've come a long way with water simulations. It doesn't have to be as good as say the VFX in some movies that use that program, but it's a lot easier to do overall. It's a bit misleading though because it's based off current geological features.
Central Washington university, Harvard of the Pacific Northwest
Didn't the flood make the falls??? Were there falls there from previous events maybe?
the floods did carve out the falls but since you had dozens of floods sweeping through the area the position and shape of the falls changed. what we see today is the last "footprint" of the floods. if we had another additional flood sweep through dry falls would not look the same as it does toady.
Ok, the animation is flawed from the beginning. The surface of the ground was relatively flat. The water surging down is what created the landscape. DUH!
Series of floods from the puny lake missoula my rear end. It was a comet impact and it happened in a few short months. Anyone saying otherwise has their head in the sand.
Your ignorance is truly legendary.
You should read more and post less.
The land was flatter.
That's a later food
The Geologist who first came up with this idea was ridiculed by the Geological Community and I'm not sure but he was proven correct after he died?
But that's not at all how it happened! The falls were not there until the flood remember? I must say it's a rather useless animation. Also you do not know if it was multiple floods! It may very well have been only one. Nobody knows.