One thing that stood out for me was that amongst these urban housing estates and developments there are some real gems. I spent a couple of decades just walking past them and taking no notice, I really missed out didn't I. Excellent John and Joel, a great watch.
@3.14, that row of green pillars on the left.. the last two down there are the supports for our flat where we lived with the kids in the early 80's, their bedrooms were over them and the entrance was up the stairs in Kerbey St... It was a great place to live and the kids had the run of the market! btw it's pronounced Chris' St .... Thanks for showing it John :)
That was fabulous, what an amazing piece of social history, imagine people in the future wanting to know what it really felt like to walk in London and being able to watch and listen to this. I loved it
@@brianjrichman Ive been exploring barking for the last few years, i love it; it feels very authentic, Beckton Creekside Nature Reserve is an absolute gem.
@@JohnRogersWalks The old King George Hospital (now gone) at Newbury Park, and the old Odeon and Valentines pub at Gants Hill (now both gone). As you say, the suburban architecture from the 1st half of the 20th century. A walk around the side streets around Barkingside reveals both council house designs as well as private developments that are archetypal.
@@IlfordRetro "Somehow"??? You can't rip out the architectural inheritance of an area and replace it with plastic hotels and apartments "somehow". No accident...
I walked the cut on a walk about twenty years ago ending at the basin. Then the Barley Mow still existed and you could listen to the jazz or sit out by the river.
Happy memories of visiting my Nan who lived in Osterly House on the Lansbury Estate. I used to get the bus from Upton park to visit her. Interesting that you mentioned the alternative economy via the docks John. Many people that lived nearby had a Mu Du brand watch, they were never officially sold in the UK and we're just "passing through" the docks, available via an "unauthorised route" in local pubs! No warranty tho. 🤭
John... That was an amazing video!!! I love the the river Lea walks and quite often start from the Limehouse cut from the Limehouse basin. The audio and narration was incredible. i cannot begin to say just how brilliant that was! Cheers Nigel and Christine
Another great video John. This is an area very familiar to me yet you still invigorate the landscape with your wonderful narrative. The ambient soundtrack is so effective in giving life to the images and enhances your narrative brilliantly. I have been inspired by you over the last 2 weeks traversing London and its margins - this week; Elstree, Amersham and Chesham and today, the delightful Hainault Forest.
Perfect timing! 41 degrees outside here and have just come in the house to cool down... Sat here with a Feast ice lolly and a glass of Coke with an ice cube the size of my fist! Cheers John!!
John and Joel, the sonic perambulation is a really interesting project. I quite enjoyed it. I am a regular viewer of John's videos and I appreciate both his discussion/contextualization of the places he walks and his visual style of documentation. The collaboration with Joel gives more voice to places themselves, not that they are silent in John's videos, but obviously the emphasis is on the captured sounds. I have seen videos of people just capturing the walk along with the ambient sounds, no commentary. Those types of videos can be very relaxing especially when combined with some calm/ambient music and for me are a time to checkout. The addition of John's commentary pulls me into soundscape and makes me pay a bit more attention bringing the soundscape out of the background and into the foreground. I just sit up and pay that bit more of attention and I am more engaged. Both approaches have a place for me. John asked if there is interest in him and Joel doing more of this type of sonic perambulations and exploring the possibilities presented by this project, yes indeed.
I really enjoyed that. Very relaxing. Loved the sounds - great quality audio - especially the sound of kids playing. Was thinking of you earlier whilst strolling by the Bev (sadly polluted recently).
This was amazing.My real niggle is would I have noticed the change in Audio if you hadnt forewarned us?Sharper but not intrusive and with just the right amount of unknown to permit us to imagine what is being said/discussed.Very Clever and not easy to learn,well doneJohn and Joel
I love Fullwell Cross library, it's only 20 or so minutes walk from where I live. I didn't know anything about Gibberd until now although I do recognise several of the buildings he designed, so thank you for that little nugget of information. Great walk as always.
Great to see the video version John… you may have noticed there were some birds tweeting away in a bush next to you while you talked about the imposing Canary Wharf towers towering over suburban poplar - their tweets gave a suitable juxtaposition to the towers... let’s do another one soon
Love all the history you find about London, so Interesting , and especially the housing estate that was bombed during the second world war unrecognized from before ww2 .thanks for showing john. 😊
Love this! I had no idea the say architect who designed the RC Cathedral in Liverpool also designed Harlow and Barkingside Library! Not far from where you walked, just up the Channelsea is Abbey Creek and Long Wall Ecology Garden. As part of our Children’s Forest London project I planted some trees with some children at the ecology garden. The history of the river and surrounding area is so interesting. Apparently Gandhi visited there.
Really enjoyed this one John, the sounds were amazing and how peaceful some parts of East London can be, I must get over there more from my side of the river...ATB Chris.
Fabulous!! A great walk and the surround sound experience brought it vividly to life. Would love to see and hear an Epping Forest walk with the sounds of the forest swirling around in the background.
Great video John. Speaking of income disparity in London, been reading a book you may really enjoy. The Victorian City: Everyday Life in Dickens London by Judith Flanders. Does a great job of addressing the rapid pace of change in that period. Really get the feeling that a large part of the British empire wealth was built on the backs of the working poor.
Love this one, as my Granddaughter was living in Bromley by Bow and we walked this area a lot before she moved to Canning Town. I love how it's proper urban edgeland, yet teeming with wildlife. She still works in The Galvanizers pub, which looks like a sh*thole but is actually a really friendly boozer.
Love the soundscape hope there will be more please , was Angela Landsbury the film and TV star the daughter of the Labour MP ? That pedestrian street shopping centre is as old as me ! Lovely to see you again John , all the best 💞
Granddaughter. His son married an irish american young lady in showbiz. When he,the son died young leaving her with several small children the young and beautiful widow took her family back home and thus Angela grew up in a neighbourhood close to Hollywood. I did always feel there was something vaguely Socialist about Angela Lansbury though being one of Hollywood royalty as she deservedly became I guess "vague" is the right term.
Another very interesting insight into where old London has been adapted to modern day living for better or worse. I do have a comment you mentioned that Startford maybe developed or relied on the docks for employment?. Have you considerd an in depth look at Startford in the late 1800s early 1900s because I think you would find a wealth of infrmation about the loco works which survived into the late 1900s. This must have given a lot of emplyment to the area. But what survives today if anything?
This is one of your very best films touching as it does on so many local and political issues. The selling off story of Balfron Tower, taking it from the poor to give to the rich, is shocking and disgraceful.
Bow Locks - a location I first became aware of via the Big Breakfast TV show on Channel 4 in the early 90s, as it formed part of the show's postal address! I remember Three Mills being a bonded warehouse in the late 80s - I think that they bottled Bacardi there.
I was struck how like Trellick Tower the block of flats looked in Poplar. Google tells me they are Balfron Tower also built by Goldfinger but now privately owned. Sad that they’re not still social housing
Great vid, John. Am off to visit the market; last Friday of the month is a mini food-fest. Incredible to think that the Blitz killed 30,000 Londoners. In Gaza, the death toll is a third more than that, at least, in less than 11 months in an area the size of east London.
An interesting walk and video. However, I wouldn't do it when it's getting dark which is maybe why you did it on a summer sunday! You'd probably be ok but there's no point putting yourself at a risk unnecessarily.
The trouble is, Those towers are not where the money is actually kept. I heard a great phrase once, An Islamic man asked where the Queen kept her wealth, And the proud Brit replied, "its in the leagues" As in it was all kept in the betting rackets around Football. Offshore wealth is an interesting subject. Bitcoin is the great equalizer. Many people could be seen as poor, But are actually just cheap. Poverty in the west is around 14,000$ a year, While real poverty is around 5$ a day, And extreme poverty is 1.50$ per day. Child labour in the Democratic republic of the Congo is really the heart of the extreme poverty problem. There is no Electronic Vehicle revolution or Sustainable development without the exploitation of child labour in the DRC. Imagine being 12 and working everyday for 200$ a month hauling sacks of coltan. Technology has a mess to clean up.
A real Sunday treat! I love the added texture that you were able to add with Joel's input - hoping there will be more of these!
Wow! I can’t imagine anything being more right up my alley than a soundscape combined with a London history walk! Thanks so much!
One thing that stood out for me was that amongst these urban housing estates and developments there are some real gems. I spent a couple of decades just walking past them and taking no notice, I really missed out didn't I.
Excellent John and Joel, a great watch.
My first borough I lived in back in 2004 when I came to the UK. I lived in Grundy Street. Feels nostalgic..
@3.14, that row of green pillars on the left.. the last two down there are the supports for our flat where we lived with the kids in the early 80's, their bedrooms were over them and the entrance was up the stairs in Kerbey St... It was a great place to live and the kids had the run of the market! btw it's pronounced Chris' St .... Thanks for showing it John :)
That was fabulous, what an amazing piece of social history, imagine people in the future wanting to know what it really felt like to walk in London and being able to watch and listen to this. I loved it
Thanks very much Kim
So pleased you decide to edit and post this video. These are places near to where I live but I seldom explore.
It's certainly a part of east London I should explore and this video has pushed me to do it
Glad you mentioned Barkingside Library. It used to be my "local" one when I was a schoolboy from the mid 1960's on...
Such a great building Brian - there's some fantastic architecture around Barkingside and Newbury Park
@@brianjrichman Ive been exploring barking for the last few years, i love it; it feels very authentic, Beckton Creekside Nature Reserve is an absolute gem.
@@JohnRogersWalks The old King George Hospital (now gone) at Newbury Park, and the old Odeon and Valentines pub at Gants Hill (now both gone). As you say, the suburban architecture from the 1st half of the 20th century. A walk around the side streets around Barkingside reveals both council house designs as well as private developments that are archetypal.
@@brianjrichman a good list of architecture which Redbridge as a population and an administration somehow failed to preserve.
@@IlfordRetro "Somehow"??? You can't rip out the architectural inheritance of an area and replace it with plastic hotels and apartments "somehow". No accident...
Always enjoy seeing a bit of Limehouse! The basin is one of London's rare hidden gems!
I walked the cut on a walk about twenty years ago ending at the basin. Then the Barley Mow still existed and you could listen to the jazz or sit out by the river.
Happy memories of visiting my Nan who lived in Osterly House on the Lansbury Estate. I used to get the bus from Upton park to visit her. Interesting that you mentioned the alternative economy via the docks John. Many people that lived nearby had a Mu Du brand watch, they were never officially sold in the UK and we're just "passing through" the docks, available via an "unauthorised route" in local pubs! No warranty tho. 🤭
Ha, brilliant! My Dad used to collect wood from the docks for the furniture factories in Wycombe and told me a few stories
Really enjoyed this! Interesting as always and lovely to hear the atmosphere in the background!
The enhanced audio is a nice touch, thank you.
What a fantastic audio soundscape! Really immersive experience - more of these please! Well Done Joel!
John... That was an amazing video!!!
I love the the river Lea walks and quite often start from the Limehouse cut from the Limehouse basin.
The audio and narration was incredible. i cannot begin to say just how brilliant that was!
Cheers Nigel and Christine
Ah thank you- it was a real pleasure working with Joel on this
Another great video John. This is an area very familiar to me yet you still invigorate the landscape with your wonderful narrative. The ambient soundtrack is so effective in giving life to the images and enhances your narrative brilliantly. I have been inspired by you over the last 2 weeks traversing London and its margins - this week; Elstree, Amersham and Chesham and today, the delightful Hainault Forest.
Thanks so much Mark. Brilliant to hear about your ventures into the hinterlands
Lovely - as has been already said - a Sunday treat - and fresh inspiration for walks in this fascinating part of east London.
The beautiful scenery catches my eye. I'm envious of the people there.😀
A great Sunday Tea time video,thanks John
Nice one John, wonderful walk...
Cheers Ralph
Perfect timing! 41 degrees outside here and have just come in the house to cool down... Sat here with a Feast ice lolly and a glass of Coke with an ice cube the size of my fist! Cheers John!!
What a wonderful picture- thanks for that
A very good video and sound picture! Thanks to you and Joel!
More please! Joel's sounds really enhance it.
Brilliant Sunday video. 👌
Thanks Paul
Really interesting video John, I take your point about the wealth gap. I really like your start and end points too. Sharp photography.
Thank you John for another very interesting and informative video. Best wishes from the East Riding of Yorkshire. 👍
This video was the absolute Bow Locks.
😂
Lovely xxx
Thanks Morrigan
Thank you fella….. I really enjoyed that. 👌🏼
Thanks for watching Robert
✨A fine video by JR spitting historical facts of London Town and sounds by JC...wish it longer...💚💛❤️N15🇲🇺
Really great., onto the full length now.
John and Joel, the sonic perambulation is a really interesting project. I quite enjoyed it. I am a regular viewer of John's videos and I appreciate both his discussion/contextualization of the places he walks and his visual style of documentation. The collaboration with Joel gives more voice to places themselves, not that they are silent in John's videos, but obviously the emphasis is on the captured sounds. I have seen videos of people just capturing the walk along with the ambient sounds, no commentary. Those types of videos can be very relaxing especially when combined with some calm/ambient music and for me are a time to checkout. The addition of John's commentary pulls me into soundscape and makes me pay a bit more attention bringing the soundscape out of the background and into the foreground. I just sit up and pay that bit more of attention and I am more engaged. Both approaches have a place for me. John asked if there is interest in him and Joel doing more of this type of sonic perambulations and exploring the possibilities presented by this project, yes indeed.
I really enjoyed that. Very relaxing. Loved the sounds - great quality audio - especially the sound of kids playing.
Was thinking of you earlier whilst strolling by the Bev (sadly polluted recently).
Excellent John. Thank you. I hope that you can continue the walk along the river some time.
I’d love to see a map of all the old rivers of London. Thanks for the stroll n sound!
This was amazing.My real niggle is would I have noticed the change in Audio if you hadnt forewarned us?Sharper but not intrusive and with just the right amount of unknown to permit us to imagine what is being said/discussed.Very Clever and not easy to learn,well doneJohn and Joel
Thanks so much for saying you liked the Bartlett Park information panel 😊 and the rest of the walk was great too.
Thank you Alison - we need to do Part 2 of my Whitechapel video
I love Fullwell Cross library, it's only 20 or so minutes walk from where I live. I didn't know anything about Gibberd until now although I do recognise several of the buildings he designed, so thank you for that little nugget of information. Great walk as always.
A joy as usual 😊 thank you
Thanks Helen
Superb walk, John. The ambient sounds made a great addition to the story.
A classic afternoon on a sunny day in London. Wonderful.
Thanks Sean
Thanks John for this video 😢
This is beautiful! Thank you for finally getting it made and sharing
Great to see the video version John… you may have noticed there were some birds tweeting away in a bush next to you while you talked about the imposing Canary Wharf towers towering over suburban poplar - their tweets gave a suitable juxtaposition to the towers... let’s do another one soon
I loved that bit Joel. Yes definitely up for more
The sound adds a lot. I don't usually like walk-around😊 videos with sound but they have no narration, so this format provided a pleasant discovery.
What a fantastic sound! I'm listening through a good stereo system, and it's just unbelieveable how good it is, especially the kids in the playground.
Love all the history you find about London, so Interesting , and especially the housing estate that was bombed during the second world war unrecognized from before ww2 .thanks for showing john. 😊
What a gem of a film John, just lovely.
Thanks Robert
Love this! I had no idea the say architect who designed the RC Cathedral in Liverpool also designed Harlow and Barkingside Library! Not far from where you walked, just up the Channelsea is Abbey Creek and Long Wall Ecology Garden. As part of our Children’s Forest London project I planted some trees with some children at the ecology garden. The history of the river and surrounding area is so interesting. Apparently Gandhi visited there.
BRAVO! ENCORE! MORE!
Delightful so see and hear this video, thank you John and Joel. Yes I would love to see more of these olease. 💕🇦🇺
Always great to see Chrisp st market. An old haunt of mine.
John thank-you again nice video
Thanks Lee
Thank You John, Home sick again so I am Stay safe.👍
Cheers Dave
Really enjoyed the heightened sounds of the walk. Look forward to more sonic perambulations.
Great stuff thanks
Thanks George
I like the start of the video, with the confused man looking at the camera, wondering what's going on - not you John, but the guy behind you at 0:28 !
Ha, yes I noticed that in the edit
Beautiful sound, thank you
Really enjoyed this one John, the sounds were amazing and how peaceful some parts of East London can be, I must get over there more from my side of the river...ATB Chris.
Fabulous!! A great walk and the surround sound experience brought it vividly to life. Would love to see and hear an Epping Forest walk with the sounds of the forest swirling around in the background.
that's a great idea Andy
Bow locks too you to m8😂😂😂 another gr8 vid
I loved it! Especially the use of sound!
WOW!! Liverpool Catholic Cathedral and this!!
Great soundscape - hope you will explore more possibilities - parkland, forest, river.... Thank you.
Yes. We like the sound tech. Very cool.
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Excellent perambulation Mr Rogers! I'm pretty sure I happened to catch some of the Resonance 104.4 broadcast at the time too 🙂
Thoroughly enjoyed post on a rainy night in Connecticut. Please do some more. Though I love your choice of music for your other posts.
This was a different walk with a more immersive feel to it.
With the deeper background sounds … 👍🏻
Great video John. The great Beer flood of 1814 would be another attractive topic for a video. 🍺👍
Super walk, John! Cheers!
Thanks Ashley
Super video-never been there. I am a great fan of Fu Manchu books and movies-a great villain based in Limehouse.
The non conformist " Booth" was salvation army John, great video as usual.
Amazing to see a part of still-ramshackle street in London. Had to be in the east, I'm guessing?
Lovely!
Number 99 with its flowers could be an impressionist painting.
Great video John. Speaking of income disparity in London, been reading a book you may really enjoy. The Victorian City: Everyday Life in Dickens London by Judith Flanders. Does a great job of addressing the rapid pace of change in that period. Really get the feeling that a large part of the British empire wealth was built on the backs of the working poor.
Love this one, as my Granddaughter was living in Bromley by Bow and we walked this area a lot before she moved to Canning Town. I love how it's proper urban edgeland, yet teeming with wildlife. She still works in The Galvanizers pub, which looks like a sh*thole but is actually a really friendly boozer.
Great video John. I've just left The East End for Lewisham.
😊 evening
evening Danny
Love the soundscape hope there will be more please , was Angela Landsbury the film and TV star the daughter of the Labour MP ? That pedestrian street shopping centre is as old as me ! Lovely to see you again John , all the best 💞
I need to look into the Angela Lansbury link
Granddaughter. His son married an irish american young lady in showbiz. When he,the son died young leaving her with several small children the young and beautiful widow took her family back home and thus Angela grew up in a neighbourhood close to Hollywood. I did always feel there was something vaguely Socialist about Angela Lansbury though being one of Hollywood royalty as she deservedly became I guess "vague" is the right term.
I think the spoken word/ info with the extra audio and your normal backing tracks would be perfect
Love it john, as the great philosopher david Beckham said, "you are in my manor....
I recommend, Alien romulus, waz decent 🎉
brilliant - thanks Kyran (and also from the movie tip)
More with Joel would be very enjoyable.
More???? Is there more???? Yes please.
Beckton Alps - City Airport runway - Woolwich Ferry would be a nice walk
Another very interesting insight into where old London has been adapted to modern day living for better or worse. I do have a comment you mentioned that Startford maybe developed or relied on the docks for employment?. Have you considerd an in depth look at Startford in the late 1800s early 1900s because I think you would find a wealth of infrmation about the loco works which survived into the late 1900s. This must have given a lot of emplyment to the area. But what survives today if anything?
Fantastic video John! Such a shame what they did to Balfron, the new windows look ghastly.
This is one of your very best films touching as it does on so many local and political issues. The selling off story of Balfron Tower, taking it from the poor to give to the rich, is shocking and disgraceful.
Bow Locks - a location I first became aware of via the Big Breakfast TV show on Channel 4 in the early 90s, as it formed part of the show's postal address!
I remember Three Mills being a bonded warehouse in the late 80s - I think that they bottled Bacardi there.
Hello 👋
Hi Caroline
Hi just to let you know in this area we don't pronounce the P in Chrisp Street. great video btw ,.
Wonderful. Those Lansbury's eh? prolific family. Bagpuss, murder he wrote...
I was struck how like Trellick Tower the block of flats looked in Poplar. Google tells me they are Balfron Tower also built by Goldfinger but now privately owned. Sad that they’re not still social housing
The folk that live in those houses below the tower John could sell up and live like Kings elsewhere , they'd be the lucky ones
Great vid, John. Am off to visit the market; last Friday of the month is a mini food-fest. Incredible to think that the Blitz killed 30,000 Londoners. In Gaza, the death toll is a third more than that, at least, in less than 11 months in an area the size of east London.
That’s such a tragic and shocking stat Louis
@@JohnRogersWalks Yes, ongoing pain. But we live and do what we can, and yes, celebrate this diverse city. Much love.
Have you heard about the redevelopment of the HSBC Tower that they hope to do. Keeping the building but pulling chucks out of it.
An interesting walk and video. However, I wouldn't do it when it's getting dark which is maybe why you did it on a summer sunday! You'd probably be ok but there's no point putting yourself at a risk unnecessarily.
Wasn't Balfon Tower twinned with the other Goldfinger tower in Notting Dale?
i.e. Trellick Tower. Both are Grade 11 listed, I think.
The trouble is, Those towers are not where the money is actually kept. I heard a great phrase once, An Islamic man asked where the Queen kept her wealth, And the proud Brit replied, "its in the leagues" As in it was all kept in the betting rackets around Football. Offshore wealth is an interesting subject. Bitcoin is the great equalizer. Many people could be seen as poor, But are actually just cheap. Poverty in the west is around 14,000$ a year, While real poverty is around 5$ a day, And extreme poverty is 1.50$ per day. Child labour in the Democratic republic of the Congo is really the heart of the extreme poverty problem. There is no Electronic Vehicle revolution or Sustainable development without the exploitation of child labour in the DRC. Imagine being 12 and working everyday for 200$ a month hauling sacks of coltan. Technology has a mess to clean up.
Very true- thanks for pointing that out David