Yes indeed a brilliant investment. It effectively makes an 18 year old car compleatly modern. Without taking away its classic retro look. Well done Joe🇮🇪
Sorry, it really doesn't look factory fit. For starters, it doesn't fit, it's sticking out. If you're going to take the parts out and have them sprayed, get them sprayed black,not silver. Silver will look terrible.
Defo food for thought Joe. I was going to add a PCCM+ to mine to make it more desirable to the next owner, but as long as the unit has all the modern apps, does it really matter? I could be parting with an extra £1100-£1200 for no actual reason.
I had the PCCM Plus unit installed earlier this year and straight away, no glare on the screen compared to the unit you installed. If there is glare, it hasn’t caught my attention but now I’m going to look for it. 😅 And of course, Porsche’s unit looks absolutely straight from the factory.
This is my experience as well. I installed the Porsche PCCM+ unit in my Cayman, with the Bose system. It was an easy install and blends in with the dashboard and works perfectly, so no regrets.
This is a no brainier, I will be looking for similar unit for my 981 Cayman, hopefully there is something for this Porsche model, thanks Joe for sharing some cost saving tips!
Interesting to know if you have front to rear fade feature working as with my experience I had to run another RCA from the sub out to the amp and splice wires to get this to work. Equally I've tried turning up the amp on the old PCM before disconnecting without any difference, I'd wager the AliExpress unit isn't as loud as your old PCM. The only way I improved this was to add in a line driver from the RCA out into the optic box, which increases the gain. I'd bet you can sit in the car full blast volume and it's no where near loud enough.
I used a Sony head unit with an Echomaster back-up cam and a matching Volcano Gray bezel. Also installed the Bose adaptor. It looks factory. Definitely makes the car 15+ years newer. I didn’t need the PCCM+ because I don’t have Sport Chrono or any other fancy stuff that it integrates with. I refuse to put that Aliexpress stuff in my car.
Most don't know about the fiberoptic cabling in Porsche cars. I thought they would go much further with the fiberoptic cabling in place of the copper wiring, due to communication speed and zero chance of shorting out in modern cars. Hope things work well with the unit you've installed, as the quality is actually something that can be controlled by the written specifications.
I have the Pioneer. I got prior to my 997 before becoming classic and having the PCCM+ option. I’ve always been a Puoneer fan and have them in my Jeep, Merc Sprinter, 3500 Silverado and could not be happier. I don’t however like it in my 997. It sounds like crap because I have the Bose. The Fiber optic is to blame I’m told. Different adapters work or don’t work. I’ve learned a quality compatible adapter is $$. I’m going to switch to the PCCM+ because of the Bose, the link to auto info, the ability to connect to my 6 disc changer, the Porsche display at start up and a factory finish is a added plus. The only thing I don’t like is the PCCM+ does not have WiFi connection and the USB is in the face. Not like Porsche to be so design impaired.
Sounds good! This is probably a similar story but it sounds good enough to me, guess to others it may sound terrible 🤣 the PCCM+ is meant to be amazing but agreed, seems a strange move to put the USB on the front.
Not sure either, on a photo they look identical. Mines getting sprayed so not overly bothered at the moment. It does support a camera but I’ve not bothered with one.
I completely agree with this mod. I don't have an ali-express, about 2 years ago I installed a Kenwood unit, far more desirable than porsche tax on the pccm+ etc.
Sorry Joe, I missed this one but I don’t understand the criticism. I had a 08 Lexus ISF and I would have loved CarPlay. Really brings your car up to date and helps you too especially when you go on the NC500.
Seems a good fit. It’ll look even better once the other fascia panels are the same colour. Is it automatically and immediately on as soon as you turn the key? I have an android screen in my old merc and there’s a bit of a wait for start up (I got the most ram I could get). It’s not bad but wonder what this system is like in a Porsche.
Hi Joe I’ve had my pioneer unit for about a year now and its fantastic although I do not have the Bose speaker system, so I’m looking at swapping out the old units for better quality ones because they sound crap.
Brah, you're super cute and great vids Although, all guys watching are thinking wash the car before shooting your videos, and yes the PCCM+ is totally worth it. It allows for adjustments options on your Porsche. Sub'd.
Thank you! I plan to this year, had so little time for filming so it was always a case of clean or film. Now I’ve got more time it will get better, appreciate the comment and sub!
Very tempted to swap my Kenwood unit in my 987 for one of these. My Kenwood is ancient with a very basic display. I'd love it to have DAB. Joe, out of interest - what's the call quality like on them?
Are you required to plug in your phone or does it connect seamlessly every time you ever the car? I have an alpine unit and I have to plug it in via USB every time. I find it annoying.
“I haven’t got any experience using it (Porsche PCCM+),” but I’m gonna thumbnail / title my vid “PCCM+” so I can tell you how happy I am with a cheap chinese aftermarket, which has glare, doesn’t match the console design, is the wrong color bezel, delays while CarPlay boots up… but I really like it cause it’s cheap. Sounds like you got what you paid for.
It has glare but never bad enough to annoy me, the silver matches but I picked the wrong one, doesn’t matter tho as it’s getting sprayed as we speak. There is 0 delay booting up I can assure you. Yes I like it more as it’s cheap, glad I didn’t go for the real one.
Hey Joe, I may have missed it, but will this unit work with my CD changer in my 997? The PCCM Plus doesn't support a factory CD changer. Thanks a lot! -Tom.
I just ordered mine without choosing a colour. Then got asked what colour in the communion from the seller. They were very helpful:) delivered quick too
I have just about the same car as you and I bought the official PCCM+ unit. It cost $1300 US. I installed it myself. I think it looks better, more official, and I'm good with that. It matches the grey trim. I don't trust the aliexpress unit and the graphics on it look generic, as they are. When I was looking for my Cayman, I rejected any car that had an aftermarket head unit because I wasn't sure what wiring hacks were done. The PCCM+ unit is plug and play. Ultimately, I'm very happy with it. I mainly use it for navigation, which makes it seem like a high price to pay, but I like to keep things stock for the most part. I don't miss the money and as you said the technology makes the 17 year old car feel brand new.
I have the kenwood. Not a fan. I’m upgrading to the Ali express unit :). My kenwood only connects via cable. From what I understand it connects seamlessly to android but I’m an apple user so this thing frustrates me. I also think it looks dated.
I have the Pioneer. I got prior to my 997 becoming classic and having the PCCM+ option. I’ve always been a Puoneer fan and have them in my Jeep, Merc Sprinter, 3500 Silverado and could not be happier. I don’t however like it in my 997. It sounds like crap because I have the Bose. The Fiber optic is to blame I’m told. Different adapters work or don’t work. I’ve learned a quality compatible adapter is $$. I’m going to switch to the PCCM+ because of the Bose, the link to auto info, the ability to connect to my 6 disc changer, the Porsche display at start up and a factory finish is a added plus. The only thing I don’t like is the PCCM+ does not have WiFi connection and the USB is in the face. Not like Porsche to be so design impaired.
Yes indeed a brilliant investment. It effectively makes an 18 year old car compleatly modern. Without taking away its classic retro look. Well done Joe🇮🇪
Sorry, it really doesn't look factory fit. For starters, it doesn't fit, it's sticking out. If you're going to take the parts out and have them sprayed, get them sprayed black,not silver. Silver will look terrible.
Spray it silver it’ll be look cool!
Defo food for thought Joe. I was going to add a PCCM+ to mine to make it more desirable to the next owner, but as long as the unit has all the modern apps, does it really matter? I could be parting with an extra £1100-£1200 for no actual reason.
I had the PCCM Plus unit installed earlier this year and straight away, no glare on the screen compared to the unit you installed. If there is glare, it hasn’t caught my attention but now I’m going to look for it. 😅 And of course, Porsche’s unit looks absolutely straight from the factory.
This is my experience as well. I installed the Porsche PCCM+ unit in my Cayman, with the Bose system. It was an easy install and blends in with the dashboard and works perfectly, so no regrets.
This is a no brainier, I will be looking for similar unit for my 981 Cayman, hopefully there is something for this Porsche model, thanks Joe for sharing some cost saving tips!
Interesting to know if you have front to rear fade feature working as with my experience I had to run another RCA from the sub out to the amp and splice wires to get this to work. Equally I've tried turning up the amp on the old PCM before disconnecting without any difference, I'd wager the AliExpress unit isn't as loud as your old PCM. The only way I improved this was to add in a line driver from the RCA out into the optic box, which increases the gain. I'd bet you can sit in the car full blast volume and it's no where near loud enough.
I used a Sony head unit with an Echomaster back-up cam and a matching Volcano Gray bezel. Also installed the Bose adaptor. It looks factory. Definitely makes the car 15+ years newer.
I didn’t need the PCCM+ because I don’t have Sport Chrono or any other fancy stuff that it integrates with. I refuse to put that Aliexpress stuff in my car.
Amazing addition, looks great!!
Thank you! So happy with it
Most don't know about the fiberoptic cabling in Porsche cars. I thought they would go much further with the fiberoptic cabling in place of the copper wiring, due to communication speed and zero chance of shorting out in modern cars. Hope things work well with the unit you've installed, as the quality is actually something that can be controlled by the written specifications.
I have the Pioneer. I got prior to my 997 before becoming classic and having the PCCM+ option. I’ve always been a Puoneer fan and have them in my Jeep, Merc Sprinter, 3500 Silverado and could not be happier. I don’t however like it in my 997. It sounds like crap because I have the Bose. The Fiber optic is to blame I’m told. Different adapters work or don’t work. I’ve learned a quality compatible adapter is $$. I’m going to switch to the PCCM+ because of the Bose, the link to auto info, the ability to connect to my 6 disc changer, the Porsche display at start up and a factory finish is a added plus. The only thing I don’t like is the PCCM+ does not have WiFi connection and the USB is in the face. Not like Porsche to be so design impaired.
Sounds good! This is probably a similar story but it sounds good enough to me, guess to others it may sound terrible 🤣 the PCCM+ is meant to be amazing but agreed, seems a strange move to put the USB on the front.
Color options look like UIS8581A-2-32 or UIS8141E-2-32 not sure which one is the right one. Edit: also does it have backup camera compatibility?
Not sure either, on a photo they look identical. Mines getting sprayed so not overly bothered at the moment. It does support a camera but I’ve not bothered with one.
Think it actually will take up to 4 cameras 👍
I completely agree with this mod. I don't have an ali-express, about 2 years ago I installed a Kenwood unit, far more desirable than porsche tax on the pccm+ etc.
Sorry Joe, I missed this one but I don’t understand the criticism. I had a 08 Lexus ISF and I would have loved CarPlay. Really brings your car up to date and helps you too especially when you go on the NC500.
Yeah I’m not paying nearly 2k for CarPlay when I’ve got it albeit not quite as good for £150.
Looks fantastic Joe, liked the introduction 😂👍
Thank you:) took some time
Like the video Joe. 1 question, how do you work out the different colours of the fascia’s when ordering? Cheers
I didn’t actually. The guy messaged and asked which one. Steel grey or silver grey. I should have gone steel. Steel is the darker of the 2.
Seems a good fit. It’ll look even better once the other fascia panels are the same colour. Is it automatically and immediately on as soon as you turn the key? I have an android screen in my old merc and there’s a bit of a wait for start up (I got the most ram I could get). It’s not bad but wonder what this system is like in a Porsche.
Great idea. Thought about doing this when I had mine but never got round to it. I was quoted around £700 to have it done at a specialist
Really interesting video, thanks very much 👍
It looks great, well done
Thank you
Hi Joe I’ve had my pioneer unit for about a year now and its fantastic although I do not have the Bose speaker system, so I’m looking at swapping out the old units for better quality ones because they sound crap.
Your link for the bose adapter not very clear which one to go for.
From what I can tell, some of the options include the fiber optic box (bose), its a dizzying amount of options on aliexpress.
Brah, you're super cute and great vids Although, all guys watching are thinking wash the car before shooting your videos, and yes the PCCM+ is totally worth it. It allows for adjustments options on your Porsche. Sub'd.
Thank you! I plan to this year, had so little time for filming so it was always a case of clean or film. Now I’ve got more time it will get better, appreciate the comment and sub!
Very tempted to swap my Kenwood unit in my 987 for one of these. My Kenwood is ancient with a very basic display. I'd love it to have DAB.
Joe, out of interest - what's the call quality like on them?
Nice upgrade Joe think I'll have a go at that thanks
Are you required to plug in your phone or does it connect seamlessly every time you ever the car?
I have an alpine unit and I have to plug it in via USB every time. I find it annoying.
Have already fitted on of these to mine too. Been good whilst I've had it!
Can you check the link for the bose adaptor? I can't see it on the URL given, cheers
The link is odd and opens up about 20 things. If you scroll through it’s there. £57.59 I think
Do you have install instructions?
No I didn’t fill it. It wasn’t too bad, if you have Bose a little wiring is needed but without Bose it’s plug in and play.
Wow a lot of choices on Aliexpress, what color was your unit? I'm guessing the other color is 7862 as part of the model code?
My PCCM was 1300 direct from Porsche.
@@gotoylc fair enough! Still a lot of cash!
“I haven’t got any experience using it (Porsche PCCM+),” but I’m gonna thumbnail / title my vid “PCCM+” so I can tell you how happy I am with a cheap chinese aftermarket, which has glare, doesn’t match the console design, is the wrong color bezel, delays while CarPlay boots up… but I really like it cause it’s cheap. Sounds like you got what you paid for.
It has glare but never bad enough to annoy me, the silver matches but I picked the wrong one, doesn’t matter tho as it’s getting sprayed as we speak. There is 0 delay booting up I can assure you. Yes I like it more as it’s cheap, glad I didn’t go for the real one.
Hey Joe, I may have missed it, but will this unit work with my CD changer in my 997? The PCCM Plus doesn't support a factory CD changer. Thanks a lot! -Tom.
Why would you need to keep the CD player if you are connecting a smart phone to Apple CarPlay or android auto head unit?
went to buy one, only it didn't ask me the colour I wanted which was the iron grey?
I just ordered mine without choosing a colour. Then got asked what colour in the communion from the seller. They were very helpful:) delivered quick too
@@JoeTalksCars ok cheers Joe, I will give it ago
can you connect your Iphone to it
@@JoeTalksCars Now ordered
I have just about the same car as you and I bought the official PCCM+ unit. It cost $1300 US. I installed it myself. I think it looks better, more official, and I'm good with that. It matches the grey trim. I don't trust the aliexpress unit and the graphics on it look generic, as they are. When I was looking for my Cayman, I rejected any car that had an aftermarket head unit because I wasn't sure what wiring hacks were done. The PCCM+ unit is plug and play. Ultimately, I'm very happy with it. I mainly use it for navigation, which makes it seem like a high price to pay, but I like to keep things stock for the most part. I don't miss the money and as you said the technology makes the 17 year old car feel brand new.
Is there a link anyone to the item Joe bought ?
a.aliexpress.com/_EHHTa0x
What code is the steel gray?
Excellent!!! 👍
Joe - now that you have saved so much money on the head unit - you can buy a new set of jeans!
Not quite 🤣 car takes all my money.
Nothing weird about Android Auto. Just sensible users who don't waste loads of money on a stupid iPhone.
You should have fitted a Pioneer or Kenwood.
I have the kenwood. Not a fan. I’m upgrading to the Ali express unit :).
My kenwood only connects via cable. From what I understand it connects seamlessly to android but I’m an apple user so this thing frustrates me. I also think it looks dated.
I have the Pioneer. I got prior to my 997 becoming classic and having the PCCM+ option. I’ve always been a Puoneer fan and have them in my Jeep, Merc Sprinter, 3500 Silverado and could not be happier. I don’t however like it in my 997. It sounds like crap because I have the Bose. The Fiber optic is to blame I’m told. Different adapters work or don’t work. I’ve learned a quality compatible adapter is $$. I’m going to switch to the PCCM+ because of the Bose, the link to auto info, the ability to connect to my 6 disc changer, the Porsche display at start up and a factory finish is a added plus. The only thing I don’t like is the PCCM+ does not have WiFi connection and the USB is in the face. Not like Porsche to be so design impaired.
1:04 😮 but it doesn’t fit nor match the colour of the rest of the facias. When was your last eye test? 😂
I did mention it doesn’t match 🤣
This guy has no eye for detail. Enjoy! 👍😊
Sorry what?