Always wanted more Wallace, so I'm happy to report that him epically CUCKING Envy made me crawl on my ceiling with my head spinning 360 degrees. Still can't process it.
Does he not get much in the comics either? All of the characters were just so much better holy... I've only watched the movie to be fair and thought it was a fun watch. But enjoy the show muchhh more.
Honestly this might be my favorite version of the story. I think leaving Ramona to face her Exes since…I mean they’re HER exes, was an amazing choice and seeing them get extra moments to flourish as characters was fun as hell. Also I think Bryan Lee O’Malley actually confirmed the future timeline wasn’t actually a sequel to the comic or movie and is technically it’s own continuity that just happens to follow similar beats
I like to think that the future of older and even older scott is one where he never faced and accepted nega scott, so he end up repeating the same mistakes
As someone who is unfamiliar with both the comic and movie of Scott Pilgrim, I think this show did a good job providing a entertaining experiences. I was originally surprised with the lack of SP in the show but the supporting cast was strong and fun to see.
I just dont understand why people want the same thing over and over, same stories, same characters following the same arcs. Isnt that what everyone complains about these days? The lack of originality? I feel like this show breathed new life into the franchise, and stands seperate but side by side with the comics, movies, and video game
I really loved it, our thoughts on the anime are exactly the same. I prefer the more grounded human story of the books, but I thought a lot of what’s in takes off was well executed. I love Ramona being the mc, it definitely helped redeem herself alongside Scott, and I feel like they have a stronger connection here than the others versions of the story imo.
I felt like their connection in the anime was the least strong, I mean, they went on one date, and then Scott died, so it seems like Ramona didn’t have a good reason to care for Scott.
Me and some friends watched it over the course of two days and we loved it. I'm personally a fan of getting to see all of the Exes be people and do things like "normal" people. And Ramona getting a lot of this screen time to flesh out her character was great as well. Overall, I really enjoyed it
As someone who has never watched the original I really fell in love with the artstyle and vibes of the whole thing. I loved the slice of life aspects and cute romance. I also just liked Scotts character a lot especially in his date with Ramona. Kinda felt similar to Bee and puppycat which i also loved a lot.
That date is actually ripped straight from the comics! The entire first episode is. If you want more of that slice of life and a great story I'd def check out thr comics, and if you want some incredibly shot composition and directing I'd also watch the movie
@@marcusclark1339 you might deem it worse since it is very different from the original work but the side characters and villians do get more attention and are written way better
The anime was basically if UBW was about romance instead of his ideals. Tiny changes to the present timeline and the big fight is about changing the future to not lead to the bad end he saw himself. I watched the show without knowing much about Scott Pilgrim other than the fighting of the exes from the movies. I wasn't expecting them to actually remove the main character for half of the show. At the end, I loved it. Loved it so much I binged the comics the day after I finished watching the show. And then rewatched it again with the Jp dub. I may be late to the party, but it is an amazing story and an amazing cast. I might be biased, but I found the Anime as a sequel to be just the perfect follow-up to the series.
I truly thought we were gonna have an adaptation… which is kinda a let down It did not happen but it wasn’t that bad. A sequel is good and I liked this one
I hate that people are hung up on this so much. Yeah, marketing people lie, who gives a shit? Just watch the work and evaluate it based on what it is, not your expectations based on a trailer.
Because it's blatant false advertising They marketed a show that's an adaptation of the comics People were excited for a show that's an adaptation of the comics People spent money for Netflix because they were expecting an adaptation of the comics If you went to a restaurant and the menu showed you a cake and then once you ordered they gave you a pie wouldn't you complain that they lied to you about a cake I genuinely don't know why they didn't just say it was doing it's own thing and not get people excited for a product they wouldn't be getting @@jemmilam4388
I think the most off-putting thing, and this is a grievance that most people have, is the lack of Scott within his own story. In fact, there is a noticeable tone of cynicism or even malice towards Scott within this series from the other characters who are supposed to be his friends and family. Granted, in the comics, everyone in his life bemoaned him for his immaturity, obliviousness, and free-loading nature, but there was always a sense that they cared about him, enjoyed his company, and were willing to help him out as he struggled to make the leap from adolescence to adulthood. In the series, not only was everyone elated that he was presumed dead, but all of their lives were better off without him. The only characters who were upset over his death were Knives and Ramona - the characters who knew him the least. That didn't sit right with me the whole time watching.
This is an evident part of the original comic and even the movie though? Like he's kind of an unselfaware douche in the comic- him realizing that is like- his whole arc. I still got the vibe that people enjoyed him especially near the end but ig I do wish people cared a LITTLE more after the funeral. That may just be a minor pacing issue tho.
I haven’t read the comics or watched the movie, and Scott Pilgrim is one of my new favorite pieces of media I’ve ever seen. I was sold on Scott and Ramona’s chemistry immediately, the comedy was great, and eight episodes of emotional healing, character development, and silly action is the kind of stuff I would inject directly into my veins any day of the week. No show is flawless, but imo all of this show’s flaws are completely understandable and easily overlooked.
Personally I really enjoyed it. This was a really big lesson for me as a enjoyer of art that the source material will always be there. As much as I wanted the comic to be adapted into animation, I can still read the comic, and if they did adapt it I would’ve messed out on so much creativity. On a new story they filled in puzzle pieces I didn’t know were missing. I view it we a very strange B side/ sister piece to the comic and I don’t think I can read Scott pilgrim the same way again
The Wider Audience doesn't read Comic Books which is the main audience for the Anime to get them into the IP Faithfully adapt the Comics and than do takes off
@@murderman8578Highly disagree. I understand the point, but I don’t think artists should have to act like waiters for people like this. Doing something new and interesting is fun, and if people don’t want to read the comic in order to understand the new stuff, that is not the creator’s problem.
@NezumiVA That kinda is their Problem since this Show is relies on people having played the Game, watch the movie, or read the comics which your average person doesn't do either so you're alienating your viewers Get them familiar what the og story through an Adaptation and than have this
@@murderman8578 Again, all of that stuff's out there already. Viewers won't be alienated if they take the time to get familiar with that material, and if they don't want to, they're not required to, but that's their decision to make. An artist shouldn't be limited in what they can make solely because of audience expectations, it's _their art_
@NezumiVA Also, if the GENERAL audience is not familiar with that material, they won't get the nuanced of this supposed recontext of the OG material and most of the time they won't go outta their way to read it just so they can understand the Anime if the expectation was an 1:1 Adaptation of the comics which is no different from Anime Adaptations An Artist needs to be mindful on who their Audience is and how to market properly
I really loved the story, his IF-type storytelling, and the spin Brian gave on the story, born from the maturity he gained from the time passed by the end of the series. One of the elements i liked the most was the nuanced way they rappresented the conflict between older Scott and Ramona in the future. Yeah, Scott probably did make a mess of things in their marriage, and a lot of his suffering and grief was self-imposed, but part of that was caused by Ramona distancing herself fom Him and her problems, and falling back in her habits. She didn't say to him that she still loved him and that separation wasn't meant to be a divorce, making Scott think that all his efforts on being a better person and having a good relationship for himself and her lover were wasted, and making him having a worst break up fallout that the one he had with Envy. She expected him to make all the work to resolve their relationship problems, when the faults were shared between them. Damn, she didn't visit Scott for the 10 years he spent in his old appartment, making him go even more batshit crazy in the meantime. Infact, Older Scott's rage deflates almost instantly when Ramona tells him that they could have made their relationship work again in the past, and when Ramona rejects his proposal to get back together, he accepts it, bitterly, but he accepts it. Their problems were caused by terrible misundestandings from both parts. And their resolution relied in both of them trying to face their problems together, not apart form each other.
I think it’s apparent it’s a sequel to the comics, while you brushed off the robot, I think it’s apparent that it would have been used in the movie if it existed. Another thing is that it heavily implies that the screen play that Ramona sends back in time IS the movie screenplay literally having her say she condensed the plot and combined characters.
I hope not. It sort of robs the book of it's ending... which is currently the best version of the story we have so far with both Scott AND Ramona dealing with their issues in order to fight side by side with one another. Thus far the film sidelined Ramona too much to focus on Scott (and angling for a Knives ending that the comics already warned us would be 'bad for everyone') while this anime (Currently) sidelines Scott too much for Ramona's development, and only the book does BOTH at the same time with a particularly good sense of maturity... I honestly can't see how THIS timeline could POSSIBLY result in any better result since if older Scott comes from the timeline where he actually went through a character arc and learned lessons... what hope does he have in this timeline where he hasn't done ANY growing at all? Obviously a second season could really hone in on this and with the right direction could really hone in on showcasing Scott and Ramona TOGETHER, conquering their issues to be worthy of each other, but at this exact moment, while Ramona has dealt with her primary fault, Scott's still a newborn babe of issues.
@@lenajohnson6179 The book's author (who also wrote for the show) says the show's future world is its own separate thing, so the comic and movie's endings stand on their own.
My problem with this addition to the series is that it didn’t necessarily add character development to the series, it just replaces the development other characters would have normally gotten. Steven is still exactly the same and doesnt get his boyfriend, Envy Adams doesn’t go through her arc, Kims reconciliation with Scott doesnt happen, Gideon is effectively completely rewritten as a character, and Lisa STILL ISNT THERE for some reason. Ramona doesn’t even actually apologize for her behavior to anyone except Roxie, every other Evil Ex barely interacts with her in any meaningful way outside of Lucas Lee. The whole thing felt like side content they could have stacked ONTO the original to elevate it, but on its own/as an AU, it just falls flat. Like instead of eating Mac and Cheese, you just ate the shredded cheese by itself. EDIT: It also doesn’t make sense from a viewer/fan perspective to have a Scott that doesn’t learn from his mistakes be the antagonist. Every other version of Scott genuinely deals with his issues by gaining the power of self respect/understanding and the confrontation with Nega-Scott. The idea that either A. This isn’t either of those Scotts makes me question why Im supposed to care for him or B. It IS one of those Scotts and his other arcs amounted to nothing. Scott doesn’t even solve that issue in this one. He just fights him, he gets sent back to the future, and we’re supposed to believe that he learned despite having an even worse arc in this one than the other adaptations. I just don’t get the point.
It's simply character assassination of the Scott we know from the original books and movie. That Scott's and Ramona's growth is undermined by the new story, and the use of time travel destroys the idea that toxic/unhealthy people can learn to be better without a sci-fi intervention.
But that’s the thing. Scott DID learn from his mistakes, future Scott is a version of him that fell back on his old habits. Flaws that big don’t get fixed after one learning moment. You have to constantly work on them. And he seems to have done that, for a while. Note that he and Ramona only broke up after over a decade. But then she wanted to take a break and he didn’t get the memo.
@@joshuaannis7718 The problem being that doesn’t get resolved either. At the end of the fight when Ramona fuses with her future self, even older Scott just gets sent back to the future with no proper resolution for it. At the end of the day Scott still ends up an old dejected loser whose arc in the comics and movie ultimately amount to nothing.
@@ike804Ramona finally chooses herself and owns up to her shitty actions in her past relationships with hopes that she’ll be better with Scott. And the same goes for Scott, he sees the consequences of his actions and tells Ramona that his future self is not someone he wants to become. Ramona tells older Scott that it’s never too late to make things better and returns him to his timeline so that he can start working on that. I can understand being disappointed that people didn’t get the story they wanted, but personally I thought it was a great ending that did show growth and development
8:58 oh hey I can answer this! This was my first time watching anything Scott related, with my only knowledge of the series being garlic bread, the movie having cool comic effects, and that Scott was in a band. So pretty much completely blind. And I loved the show, I got a tad bit lost and confused in the latter half when I realised this wasn’t a direct adaptation, but I enjoyed it enough to have read the comics and watch the movie since then. I think I would’ve definitely enjoyed it more if I knew the story, and I definitely need to rewatch it, but I still understood mostly everything.
At this point I've come to appreciate how every single iteration of the story: The song, the comic, the film, the video game and now the TV series kind of goes a completely different way with the whole thing and interprets the characters differently to the point where I no longer think there is a definitive version of any character. I remember one of the things that bugged me about the film is that they didn't do Julie Powers justice but here she gets tons of screen time and she's kind of completely different from the comics. I got the impression towards the end that Julie was actually a pretty nice person but she's the only person who doesn't let Scott's bs slide but here she just seems to be kind of evil so I don't know, maybe I was wrong.
When you remember that the original story has already been told 3 separate times in 3 separate mediums, I'm perfectly happy they decided to do something completely new. Instead of getting a 4th reboot, we got a sequel!
As someone who only played the game it was nice to see some context for these characters, especially the exes. Even though it wasn't what I expected I was engaged throughout the whole thing. Didn't feel very complicated either, I think they did a good job making it cohesive so that you don't necessarily need all the extra context
the bait and switch ain't the problem, it's the poor execution. You have to be out of your mind to think any of the exes are "well developed" outside of maybe Roxy and Lucas, Ramona doesn't even get that talk with Gidian despite going out of her way to head over and Petel just fades into the background after claiming himself to be the main character, it's pathetic.
I just wish we got an actual adaptation. I don’t like that people are saying that people shouldn’t complain because of the comic and movie existing. I wanted to see events throughout the comic be animated and have things be more complex and thorough and not have to cut out so much stuff like the movie did. Then we got a bait and switch after getting bombarded with advertisements about the show being about Scott when it’s instead about Ramona. Then you have future Scott regress and seemingly forget all he’s learned to being a better person in the comics over a misunderstanding of all things. I’ll just ignore whatever the connections the movie has to this and pretend that it’s separate. It’s the best I’m gonna get now. This series, while good overall, was just a big “what could’ve been” for me. I’m tired of this incessant need to massively change things for the sake of it. Scott didn’t need to “take off” in order for the supporting cast to have more development. The comic being the way it was with how it treated characters was just due to bad writing. Maybe if this were 13 episodes and Netflix would stop making its shows shorter and shorter the creator could afford Scott being there I guess idk. I think that could be a factor. Season 2 maybe?
Dude you are so right. I noticed a while through the series that it was unlikely they'd show Steven's boyfriend, and I definitely miss Lisa, but damn what a rush getting to a have another first experience with Scott Pilgrim
as a fan of both the comics and the movie and now the anime, i love how none of the adaptations are a perfect replica of the comics, each piece of media feels almost like its own entity while still maintaining that scott pilgrim charm. exploring different things in each makes them feel like they actually have a purpose (rather than just being a cash grab like many sequels and live action movies now a days) it’s pretty cool too cuz it’s like we’re slowly getting our own scott pilgrim multiverse! and i love that with the anime we are able to see alternate ideas from the creator that r so new and fresh that we’d never get to see otherwise! as a longtime fan it feels like an even better treat than just an anime covering all the beats of the og-i just love love seeing the universe expanding and growing! it makes me so excited about what else the future has in store for scott pilgrim!!
What Even was? [TURNS PALPATINE VOICE] "Did you ever hear the tragedy of sequel remakes like Rebuild of Evangelion, Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni Gou?"
While I’m sure it must’ve been such a cool surprise as a long time fan seeing that they decided to change the story in this version, I wish they would’ve made that part a little bit clearer as I am a new fan who thought this would be an adaptation.
didn't watch the movie or read the comic before watching this and I still really enjoyed it. All the caracters and caracter dynamics are just super fun to watch
I actually interpreted the show to be a spiritual sequel the comics and not the film, for several reasons. Although there are a lot of similarities and call backs to the film, I think first and for most the Older Scott we meet in episode 7 acts a lot more like comic Scott than movie Scott. He still has that foolish confidence that the movie Scott didn’t really have in my opinion. And in the virtual reality scene, Regular Scott says “Is that our ex? Do we have to confront our past or something? That sounds terrible.” And Older Scott replies “I’m telling you the whole thing was terrible” which I don’t think applies much the movies events, which for the most part was just one eventful week for Scott. I think he’s experiences of reconciling with Envy, The Nega Scott, Lisa, and all the events in the comics would be garner that kind of reaction. And later in the episode, younger Scott asks Older Scott to tell him what they did wrong so he can do better, and Older Scott remarks “You immediately assume I messed up?!” I interpreted that as Scott being frustrated with still being perceived as in the wrong even after all the changes he’s made. I think it’s a very human reaction to feel as though all your efforts of self improvement were for nothing. And I’m sure from Scott was frustrated as Ramona at the pointed didn’t actual change like the anime Ramona did, so interpreted it as her doing what she always does. Granted Scott did massively over react, but that’s normal for Scott and people in general. I viewed Scott’s arc in the anime to be a succession to his arc in the comics of being a cautionary tale that even if you overcome your demons, you can still fall back into toxic behaviors
This show was like the Rebuild of Evangelion or Final Fantasy VII Remake but for Scott Pilgrim lol I watched this with a good friend of mine who's a huge fan of the comics, I've only seen the movie and know a few things about the comic thanks to her. While I was mostly on board with it, in great part thanks to the amazing artstyle and animation, as well as just how fun the show was in general, she felt a bit conflicted, loving a LOT of stuff but not being 100% on board with everything. It was a cool watch though, hope we get more just so that we can see more of this artstyle and animation.
@@theblan1k0ne UBW is technically a route in the original FATE graphic novel though, so even though I like your analogy, it would be UBW but done much later than the original FATE story.
I really, really wanted to like this show, but the further into it I got the more disappointed I became. I think I was really looking forward to seeing more of Scott and Ramona actually being in a relationship and how it helps them grow past their flaws to become better individuals, even with all the messiness. I was also never sold on Scott in the live-action version and immediately fell in love with the animation's Scott, making it such a let down when he is whisked away in episode one. To me, this also hurt Ramona's character - why is she so hooked on this guy she went on one date with when she is someone who routinely leaves people when it starts to get real? He behavior is of a Romana who has already gone through her character development, which doesn't make sense in this version of the story. I think this video's point about how this is a response to the movie Scott who has not gone through the growth of comic Scott has softened some of my initial bitterness though, as the idea of Scott just growing up to be a obsessive man-child felt so mean-spirited to me. It's a helpful point of view and maybe I'll be able to watch it again in the future with that perspective in mind and maybe like it. But right now, I can at least say for certain that the production itself is incredible: I loved the animation, the music, the action choreography, voice performances and sound effects -- all of it was awesome. I even like how the mouth-flaps didn't always match with what they were saying, reminding me of old anime dubs. It was a good touch. But the story... not for me.
I read the comics, and saw the movie. I did NOT like the anime. I didn’t necessarily hate it, I just didnt like it. I found a lot of the stuff stagnant, and i think it took away from some of the momentum that I appreciated in the old one. Also found Older Scott to be corny, and felt empty and bored watching the show without Scott in it. Scott was the glue that got all the characters we see to meet and hang together basically so it just felt empty and weird to me. The animation was nice, the humor was cute, and the cast was great but it just wasn’t what I asked for. I can see why people like it, but I dont think it’s unreasonable to dislike it either as a fan of the movie and comic adaptations. Im glad Scott pilgrim is still being given attention at least and getting love but I would’ve appreciated something else a whole lot more personally.
As someone who watched this without experiencing the comic or movie first, I found it quite enjoyable! The most jarring things were little details like people bursting coins when they died tbh. Aside from that, I was along for the ride and loved every minute of it--it was captivating even without the greater context.
As someone whos only experience with scott pilgrim's story was the video game, i feel like this series was pretty easy to understand and was really enjoyable. Obviously knowing scott isnt supposed to be "dead" at the end if the first episode helps but overall i found it very easy to understand
its hard not to read Bryan Lee O'malley making it so his fully actualised characters repeat the EXACT SAME flaws they spent 6 books overcoming and then get a divorce after the main story as anything but some "love isn't real" recon in lignt of the fact the partner who supported him through writing those books and him got a divorce after. Trying to change the message to nothing lasts forever, be happy for what you got just because the irl marriage that it drew elements from failed when the story you wrote isn't about that and doesn't share those themes just seemed like squaring the circle.
This isn't a sequel. It's just a reimagining of the story. It's a proper adaptation that isn't trying to just lazily recreate either of the stories one for one. I really enjoy the ending. My only real issues are that Envy and Kim don't really end up being much of a character outside of the books and the Gideon Julie relationship just seems like a bland wouldn't it be funny if these two were together without much reasoning or desire to explore them.
All that stuff STILL happened in the comics. Scott has always been kind of dopey. And we know he is TERRIBLE at break ups. Ramona is bad with communication. He thought the space she needed was a divorce. So his dumbass BECAME a evil ex. It's hilarious and poetic. It's a sweet ass semi-sequel. The evil exes were 1 dimensional jerks, and Ramona was always sort of a bitch to them growing up. This is a really cool way to promote growth and show depth of all the characters and give them room to be humans. Instead of pissed off people who get murdered. I thought it was a super rad addition to the lore.
I always wanted a comic adaptation and was really excited for this. I was a little let down when i realized i wasnt getting that but i absolutely loved this sequel and loved that we got more in this universe I say its like going to your favorite restaurant because youre craving your regular and being ket down theyre out so you pick something new on the menu and find yourself honestly surprised that its super delicious Like you still wish you had gottwn your regular ordwr but you aren't regretful because you still left happy and satisfied as well as pleased with thevnew experience That is 100% this scott adaptation
Yeah, I still want the adaptation, but as live action series, sounds less like "the comic's drawing but in movement" and giving a much more nuanced way to adapt the story while expanding and being faithful to a degree!
I really loved it! Ramona confronting her failure to properly address her Exes. Knives growing on her own out of the relationship she had with Scott. The Exes being able to live past their fate with Scott and having both lovable and hilarious post Ramona lives. Scott being hilariously denied a fight by all thr Exes, but having to face his future flawed self and understand what he actually needs to change in himself on his own way. Yes. I would say that it _requires_ some familiarity with Scott Pilgrim's original story, otherwise I can imagine some people feeling absolutely lost in Takes Off, but it is really enjoyable to watch, pretty to see and nice to the ears. Also, Knives is the sweetest cinnamon roll and she needs to be protected at all costs!!!
each character is worse than their original versions Ramona never really shows that regret to her exes or atoning, sure she 'fixes" them but never actually grows same to Knives entire arc gone cause they removed Scott the fact Scott was gone at all highlights really the issue of this show at all, push him out to push Ramona
They only problem is with how the advertised it. I was really skeptical before i finished as I had read some reddit comments but people really can't appreciate how clever and excellent' Brian's writing is. I still want an adaptation of the OG, but i really love what we got here.
I watched the show without watching the movie and reading comic and I still really enjoyed it. I don’t think it needs prior context although I’m sure context may elevate the show but still is good
I loved the show. Big FLCL comparisons, with the wacky characters and insane fight sequences, along with it being a highly stylized study of a single character (Ramona) makes this so so good. As FLCL is my favorite show, the fact I wasn't around for its initial airing always makes me sad. But now it's like I get to experience the joy other people got back then with this show. It's also great to see such a public Japanese and American crossover. I think this one will age really well. It has all the hallmarks of a cult classic. I'm glad they did something new instead of a full on adaption. Wallace is my favorite variation of his character so far. Lots of feelings about this, but the short of it is that I love this, and I'm glad it exists.
As someone who had this anime as their first introduction to Scott Pilgrim, I feel it was executed well enough without absolutely needing that context from the original comics and movie. They'll be an amazing supplement, I'm sure, but it's totally doable to just watch the anime.
I’m not upset at the direction it took or the story like others, I just wish it didn’t advertise it as an adaptation of the original comics, granted that’s egg on my face for not doing any research before hand (if there’s any), but I would have appreciated it if they hadn’t gotten my hopes up like that
I think I was most disappointed since it was not an adaptation, but felt more like an alternative new game plus timeline in Nier. Then it just went to explore and change character areas on characters that got less screen time in the movie. I really disliked the episode of them making the movie as it felt like a parody than retelling or developing the story and universe of Scott more. While it was certainly nice to see Ramona take a more active role in the story, I did not feel like she had enough charisma to carry the show with her cold delivery. While I am happy an animated Scott Pilgrim exists, I am already looking to get the graphic novels to understand the real story.
I binged the whole thing yesterday. It was fine. Not bad at all but not amazing. It could've used more Scott and Ramona relationship building. Comics are still the best and the movie second.
Probably the best companion piece/sequel/adaptation we will EVER get. People are just mad that Ramona was the main character, but quite frankly her backstory is far more interesting and so is her character.
I really loved this show, I think I prefer it to the film just because of the world building (I haven't read the comics). One thing I really liked is that because it was Ramona trying to get Scott, it actually made it feel like she likes him too. In the film the relationship feels really one sided
My only issue and the circles i hang in have the issue is that it was sold as a adaptation of the comic. If they had came out and said This is Scott Pilgrim but where but about Ramona. I dont see as many people having a big issue with it.
my only thought was that the story was told from scott's perspective. so all the odd video game and pop culture stuff was how he saw the world. so if that is shifted over to Ramona then would it still exist that way? i thought like her traveling thru sub-space and her bag was just scott thinking she always on time and she well prepared. seen thru unmature eyes would be she move faster then light and her bag holds everything.....
This anime has the seal of approval from me, a lifelong Scott Pilgrim fan! I really want it to get renewed for a second season, so we can actually see Scott confront his baggage and learn to be a better guy to hopefully prevent himself from turning into a villain. We can also see what nefarious plans Gideon and Julie are up to, even have Lisa and Joseph come into the story.
As someone who hasn't seen the movie, nor read the comics (I had vague knowledge of the plot, ya know, Scott is a weird dude in his young twenties dating a high schooler and then has to defeat Ramona's 7 evil exes to be with her), I genuinely really loved the show, even without the backstory of the movie or comics. Yes, it took me until like episode 3 to realize they weren't all the same story, but I enjoyed the story that played out nonetheless. Realizing it was going to be Ramona confronting her exes instead of Scott was a very neat take on the narrative, and the show as a whole made me WANT to go read the comics so I could get to know all these beloved characters better and spend more time with them. I think as a stand-alone show it still works, but it does compel you to go back and read/watch the other material :)
I'm here wondering if this fixes the "Scott Pilgrim ruined a generation of women" complaint that was rampant around the internet back when the series first got popular. You know, since Ramona is the lead basically.
wait they showed the gideon cahin scene with ramona and showed the fight in the halloween party julie had with robot 01 in the virtual guy so i think this is comic scott not movie scott
The difference between the Comics and Movie, and SPTO series is that the Comics and Movie it shows how a teenager would deal with such problems. While in the SPTO series it shows how an adult would deal with such problems. A nice subtle touch at the end. The franchise has Romana running away from her problems, with her delivery job symbolizing that. In SPTO she finds she likes stunt work and she becomes a stunt woman, thus her job is to face danger for a living.
I literally don't care about him in any other version, his song in the movie is my least favorite scene but he is SOOOO GOATED in the anime. I love him to death. Seriously glowup of the millenia
Clearly, the anime takes place in a parallel universe. It was supposed to be like the movie, until the futuristic Scott captured the present Scott, during battle with the 1st evil ex. So the anime focuses a lot more on Ramona and her exes, which is very cool. However, I did miss Scott throughout the series.
Speaking as someone who read around 15-16 chapter of the comic and seen the movie 2 or 3 times this show I feel has a good first half and meh second half. The first half gives us an interesting new dyamic to look at for these characters (Lucas and Roxy especially) and Ramona trying to reconcile with her exes is great, but the second half feels like more stuff happen that Ramona is in the background of. Episode 5 drops the reconcile aspect and makes some decent joke, but I feel become a bad way to characterize Todd leaving him a mess. Episode 6 is really just the fun opening and then a drag out with Gideon behavior change (which is fine), context on the twins backstory and then the mystery is solved poof, it honestly not that good imo. Episode 7 is just speedrunning Scott to be developed which doesn't feel earned and has a hook mystery which you can eaisly figure out. Episode 8 is fine with an epic battle, but I feel the way Future Scott is handled doesn't solve the problem which the previous episode brought up. The whole aspect of Ramona not trying to run away from her past feels so contradictory when she solves the Future Scott problem by poofing him away and instead combing with pass Ramona to help a Scott who hasn't gone dark side. Again I think there could have been a decent what if, but I can't call it great due to the condense series second half.
I’ll watch the video in a sec, but I freaking loved it. Just everything about it was amazing and I’m not gonna gush here. My only real complaints were that I wish it had more Scott, and that the resolution felt a bit like it came out of nowhere(Not to say I disagree with it, the execution was just questionable). I swear man, anime originals need to keep happening because they’re consistently the best shows. Haven’t read(Yet for whatever reason own) the comics, but I definitely plan to after this. Also, someone already said it, but Unlimited… BLADE WORKS!
Biggest flaw to me is just that Scott and Ramona end up unchanged by the movie, but I appreciate how they used that to show both of them are willing to fight for each other and are still together even after seeing versions of them that failed. I loved this show though. It's so nice just seeing the characters grow and interact, even if it was at the cost of not having Scott for most of it. I've seen some pretty bad takes though.
Scott Pilgrim is one of my favorite things of all time, after watching the movie I moved to toronto to study for a bit and I was just 15, the impact this series has had in me as a whole is massive and even though I was sad about not having an actual adaptation of the comic (Lisa fans will never recover) I am so happy to have scott takes off since it gives me more of something I really wanted and that is just to get to see more of scott pilgrim characters outside of scott since he has already been explored twice, and having a critic of movie scott since he really never learned his lesson, having Ramona also get more development was great since she should always have been the one that fixed things with her exes. I do dislike the whole "Sparks" since I hate that depiction of Love in Media but I understand it was due to time and also feel like if you are new to scott pilgrim and see this series the enjoyment you would get is greatly diminished. With all that said I loved every second and it made it even clearer that scott pilgrim is my favorite thing of all time.
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I think this was a good idea. Instead of giving us an adaptation, we get to see our characters grow. Ramona and Scott story is already over, so its better to let their characters grow.
I heard info well unfortunately I do not have the source, but I think you can google on what bryan lee o'malley stated since he wrote the plot for scott pilgrim takes off did stated that he wanted to change up the characters and make them grow or at least make them somewhat likeable.
I liked it, was a little disappointed it wasn't a more faithful adaptation. I almost wish it has a season per book and the content from this included as a form of adaptation expansion. Either way, it was a good Scott Pilgrim content regardless.
Still a bait and switch. Glad their is a part of the audience that enjoys, yet their is no denying that there is also a segment that feels cheated or lied to about this being a proper adaption of the source material. This being some extention of the live action was such a weird choice, when the easiest path was to do follow the source and add some character development around the exes and Ramona. This would have lead to new audience going back to the source material, the established audience being happy and sharing with their buds and other, merchandise sales rise, all is good in the neighborhood, like they wizards in Japan do with their comic tales moving to other mediums. But this is what we got, so be it.
I was pleasantly surprised by the anime. Scott Pilgrim is my favorite comic series and I was excited to see a more faithful adaptation of it but I'm really glad they did something new. Even Older Scott is the Scott from the comic years after the series ends so they turned the anime into a sequel in an interesting way. I like the idea that Scott and Ramona's character arcs span two different timelines
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@@mistapeper1283 lol
Always wanted more Wallace, so I'm happy to report that him epically CUCKING Envy made me crawl on my ceiling with my head spinning 360 degrees. Still can't process it.
On the ceiling, head spinning 360?
I see you are a Wallace _fan._ 😏
Envy fuckin deserved it
This is the realest comment I’ve ever read
Tbh, he is my favorite character as he is grounded and does have his fair share of quips for me to laugh. Good scenes on his end
Does he not get much in the comics either? All of the characters were just so much better holy... I've only watched the movie to be fair and thought it was a fun watch. But enjoy the show muchhh more.
Honestly this might be my favorite version of the story. I think leaving Ramona to face her Exes since…I mean they’re HER exes, was an amazing choice and seeing them get extra moments to flourish as characters was fun as hell. Also I think Bryan Lee O’Malley actually confirmed the future timeline wasn’t actually a sequel to the comic or movie and is technically it’s own continuity that just happens to follow similar beats
Best one by far
I think Scott version works as well but i get it
My fav is still the comics by a good amount but I enjoyed the anime
I like to think that the future of older and even older scott is one where he never faced and accepted nega scott, so he end up repeating the same mistakes
You have never read the comics then I'm sorry. And why is everyone it a sequel I guess NOBODY reads the comics
As someone who is unfamiliar with both the comic and movie of Scott Pilgrim, I think this show did a good job providing a entertaining experiences. I was originally surprised with the lack of SP in the show but the supporting cast was strong and fun to see.
Yeah, he really *took off* for half the damn show there.
Definitely pushed me to want to read the comics though, and it was fun in its own right.
Really love this spinoff series, but it just makes me want the original series to be adapted like this even more
I just dont understand why people want the same thing over and over, same stories, same characters following the same arcs. Isnt that what everyone complains about these days? The lack of originality? I feel like this show breathed new life into the franchise, and stands seperate but side by side with the comics, movies, and video game
I really loved it, our thoughts on the anime are exactly the same.
I prefer the more grounded human story of the books, but I thought a lot of what’s in takes off was well executed.
I love Ramona being the mc, it definitely helped redeem herself alongside Scott, and I feel like they have a stronger connection here than the others versions of the story imo.
I felt like their connection in the anime was the least strong, I mean, they went on one date, and then Scott died, so it seems like Ramona didn’t have a good reason to care for Scott.
The comics were never grounded this take makes no sense to me
Me and some friends watched it over the course of two days and we loved it. I'm personally a fan of getting to see all of the Exes be people and do things like "normal" people. And Ramona getting a lot of this screen time to flesh out her character was great as well. Overall, I really enjoyed it
Love the title of the vid - also sorry to hear about ur Grandpa my man.
Hello swoozie!
As someone who has never watched the original I really fell in love with the artstyle and vibes of the whole thing. I loved the slice of life aspects and cute romance. I also just liked Scotts character a lot especially in his date with Ramona. Kinda felt similar to Bee and puppycat which i also loved a lot.
That date is actually ripped straight from the comics! The entire first episode is. If you want more of that slice of life and a great story I'd def check out thr comics, and if you want some incredibly shot composition and directing I'd also watch the movie
@@irrelevantonyt ^this
But with a little warning: Don't be surprised if you don't like Scott in the comic.
@@HyperGamer14for sure. Scott is a complete douche. But he does get his redemption arc when he is forced admit he was wrong the way he acted
its just a worse version of the original work
like of the three its the lowest one
each character is worse than their original self
@@marcusclark1339 you might deem it worse since it is very different from the original work but the side characters and villians do get more attention and are written way better
The anime was basically if UBW was about romance instead of his ideals. Tiny changes to the present timeline and the big fight is about changing the future to not lead to the bad end he saw himself.
I watched the show without knowing much about Scott Pilgrim other than the fighting of the exes from the movies. I wasn't expecting them to actually remove the main character for half of the show. At the end, I loved it. Loved it so much I binged the comics the day after I finished watching the show. And then rewatched it again with the Jp dub.
I may be late to the party, but it is an amazing story and an amazing cast. I might be biased, but I found the Anime as a sequel to be just the perfect follow-up to the series.
His future self is even a tanner, buffer, (Arguably) more badass version of him; literally UBW Archer Pilgrim
God, he even has the white hair. Honestly wouldn’t doubt it’s a reference but I guess weirder coincidences have happened
Scott Pilgrim, more like - I am the king Gamer
True!
ur silly 😹
Scott Pilgrim Takes Off is a 0/10 because he didn't play a PSP Go
I truly thought we were gonna have an adaptation… which is kinda a let down It did not happen but it wasn’t that bad. A sequel is good and I liked this one
Well, it was kinda stated in the series that it is a different reality
This is not a sequel
Im not gonna watch it
Alternate timeline
@@Kai-ow9gi Still makes it somewhat a sequel since it basically has some new stuff going on.
I loved the show i just wished the marketing was more open about it being a sequel/spin off thing
I hate that people are hung up on this so much. Yeah, marketing people lie, who gives a shit? Just watch the work and evaluate it based on what it is, not your expectations based on a trailer.
No I liked it this way as a big surprise to the fans and throw us a big twist is pretty cool.
@@MidnightNostalgiaPod Yeah I think the big twist at the end of ep1 is kind of the point
Because it's blatant false advertising
They marketed a show that's an adaptation of the comics
People were excited for a show that's an adaptation of the comics
People spent money for Netflix because they were expecting an adaptation of the comics
If you went to a restaurant and the menu showed you a cake and then once you ordered they gave you a pie wouldn't you complain that they lied to you about a cake
I genuinely don't know why they didn't just say it was doing it's own thing and not get people excited for a product they wouldn't be getting @@jemmilam4388
How is it a sequel?
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I think the most off-putting thing, and this is a grievance that most people have, is the lack of Scott within his own story. In fact, there is a noticeable tone of cynicism or even malice towards Scott within this series from the other characters who are supposed to be his friends and family. Granted, in the comics, everyone in his life bemoaned him for his immaturity, obliviousness, and free-loading nature, but there was always a sense that they cared about him, enjoyed his company, and were willing to help him out as he struggled to make the leap from adolescence to adulthood. In the series, not only was everyone elated that he was presumed dead, but all of their lives were better off without him. The only characters who were upset over his death were Knives and Ramona - the characters who knew him the least. That didn't sit right with me the whole time watching.
This is an evident part of the original comic and even the movie though? Like he's kind of an unselfaware douche in the comic- him realizing that is like- his whole arc. I still got the vibe that people enjoyed him especially near the end but ig I do wish people cared a LITTLE more after the funeral. That may just be a minor pacing issue tho.
@@HidinginPublicBut if everyone is better off with him gone, why should he even return? Ramona could probably find someone else.
I haven’t read the comics or watched the movie, and Scott Pilgrim is one of my new favorite pieces of media I’ve ever seen. I was sold on Scott and Ramona’s chemistry immediately, the comedy was great, and eight episodes of emotional healing, character development, and silly action is the kind of stuff I would inject directly into my veins any day of the week. No show is flawless, but imo all of this show’s flaws are completely understandable and easily overlooked.
Personally I really enjoyed it. This was a really big lesson for me as a enjoyer of art that the source material will always be there. As much as I wanted the comic to be adapted into animation, I can still read the comic, and if they did adapt it I would’ve messed out on so much creativity. On a new story they filled in puzzle pieces I didn’t know were missing. I view it we a very strange B side/ sister piece to the comic and I don’t think I can read Scott pilgrim the same way again
The Wider Audience doesn't read Comic Books which is the main audience for the Anime to get them into the IP
Faithfully adapt the Comics and than do takes off
@@murderman8578Highly disagree. I understand the point, but I don’t think artists should have to act like waiters for people like this. Doing something new and interesting is fun, and if people don’t want to read the comic in order to understand the new stuff, that is not the creator’s problem.
@NezumiVA That kinda is their Problem since this Show is relies on people having played the Game, watch the movie, or read the comics which your average person doesn't do either so you're alienating your viewers
Get them familiar what the og story through an Adaptation and than have this
@@murderman8578 Again, all of that stuff's out there already. Viewers won't be alienated if they take the time to get familiar with that material, and if they don't want to, they're not required to, but that's their decision to make. An artist shouldn't be limited in what they can make solely because of audience expectations, it's _their art_
@NezumiVA Also, if the GENERAL audience is not familiar with that material, they won't get the nuanced of this supposed recontext of the OG material and most of the time they won't go outta their way to read it just so they can understand the Anime if the expectation was an 1:1 Adaptation of the comics which is no different from Anime Adaptations
An Artist needs to be mindful on who their Audience is and how to market properly
1:56 , Lisa DOES appear in the show, During one of the scenes in the Opera you see her in the background watching it
I really loved the story, his IF-type storytelling, and the spin Brian gave on the story, born from the maturity he gained from the time passed by the end of the series. One of the elements i liked the most was the nuanced way they rappresented the conflict between older Scott and Ramona in the future.
Yeah, Scott probably did make a mess of things in their marriage, and a lot of his suffering and grief was self-imposed, but part of that was caused by Ramona distancing herself fom Him and her problems, and falling back in her habits.
She didn't say to him that she still loved him and that separation wasn't meant to be a divorce, making Scott think that all his efforts on being a better person and having a good relationship for himself and her lover were wasted, and making him having a worst break up fallout that the one he had with Envy.
She expected him to make all the work to resolve their relationship problems, when the faults were shared between them. Damn, she didn't visit Scott for the 10 years he spent in his old appartment, making him go even more batshit crazy in the meantime.
Infact, Older Scott's rage deflates almost instantly when Ramona tells him that they could have made their relationship work again in the past, and when Ramona rejects his proposal to get back together, he accepts it, bitterly, but he accepts it.
Their problems were caused by terrible misundestandings from both parts. And their resolution relied in both of them trying to face their problems together, not apart form each other.
@8:55 is that Domique from the comics? The girl with the yellow scarf on her head.
I think it’s apparent it’s a sequel to the comics, while you brushed off the robot, I think it’s apparent that it would have been used in the movie if it existed. Another thing is that it heavily implies that the screen play that Ramona sends back in time IS the movie screenplay literally having her say she condensed the plot and combined characters.
I hope not. It sort of robs the book of it's ending... which is currently the best version of the story we have so far with both Scott AND Ramona dealing with their issues in order to fight side by side with one another. Thus far the film sidelined Ramona too much to focus on Scott (and angling for a Knives ending that the comics already warned us would be 'bad for everyone') while this anime (Currently) sidelines Scott too much for Ramona's development, and only the book does BOTH at the same time with a particularly good sense of maturity... I honestly can't see how THIS timeline could POSSIBLY result in any better result since if older Scott comes from the timeline where he actually went through a character arc and learned lessons... what hope does he have in this timeline where he hasn't done ANY growing at all? Obviously a second season could really hone in on this and with the right direction could really hone in on showcasing Scott and Ramona TOGETHER, conquering their issues to be worthy of each other, but at this exact moment, while Ramona has dealt with her primary fault, Scott's still a newborn babe of issues.
I refuse to believe the anime is a sequel to the comic.
@@lenajohnson6179 The book's author (who also wrote for the show) says the show's future world is its own separate thing, so the comic and movie's endings stand on their own.
@@RailwayScholar The showrunner agrees.
What happened to your "Beastars is(n't) a Race Allegory"? That was one of the best videos on Beastars I've seen.
Oh... I see. Hopefully you'll be able to make that video (and others) public again once the strikes subside (the copyright strikes are such BS).
My problem with this addition to the series is that it didn’t necessarily add character development to the series, it just replaces the development other characters would have normally gotten. Steven is still exactly the same and doesnt get his boyfriend, Envy Adams doesn’t go through her arc, Kims reconciliation with Scott doesnt happen, Gideon is effectively completely rewritten as a character, and Lisa STILL ISNT THERE for some reason. Ramona doesn’t even actually apologize for her behavior to anyone except Roxie, every other Evil Ex barely interacts with her in any meaningful way outside of Lucas Lee. The whole thing felt like side content they could have stacked ONTO the original to elevate it, but on its own/as an AU, it just falls flat. Like instead of eating Mac and Cheese, you just ate the shredded cheese by itself.
EDIT: It also doesn’t make sense from a viewer/fan perspective to have a Scott that doesn’t learn from his mistakes be the antagonist. Every other version of Scott genuinely deals with his issues by gaining the power of self respect/understanding and the confrontation with Nega-Scott. The idea that either A. This isn’t either of those Scotts makes me question why Im supposed to care for him or B. It IS one of those Scotts and his other arcs amounted to nothing. Scott doesn’t even solve that issue in this one. He just fights him, he gets sent back to the future, and we’re supposed to believe that he learned despite having an even worse arc in this one than the other adaptations. I just don’t get the point.
It's simply character assassination of the Scott we know from the original books and movie. That Scott's and Ramona's growth is undermined by the new story, and the use of time travel destroys the idea that toxic/unhealthy people can learn to be better without a sci-fi intervention.
the main character is a straight white male and the show was signed off by Netflix - there is your reasoning behind it.
But that’s the thing. Scott DID learn from his mistakes, future Scott is a version of him that fell back on his old habits. Flaws that big don’t get fixed after one learning moment. You have to constantly work on them. And he seems to have done that, for a while. Note that he and Ramona only broke up after over a decade. But then she wanted to take a break and he didn’t get the memo.
@@joshuaannis7718 The problem being that doesn’t get resolved either. At the end of the fight when Ramona fuses with her future self, even older Scott just gets sent back to the future with no proper resolution for it. At the end of the day Scott still ends up an old dejected loser whose arc in the comics and movie ultimately amount to nothing.
@@ike804Ramona finally chooses herself and owns up to her shitty actions in her past relationships with hopes that she’ll be better with Scott. And the same goes for Scott, he sees the consequences of his actions and tells Ramona that his future self is not someone he wants to become. Ramona tells older Scott that it’s never too late to make things better and returns him to his timeline so that he can start working on that. I can understand being disappointed that people didn’t get the story they wanted, but personally I thought it was a great ending that did show growth and development
8:58 oh hey I can answer this! This was my first time watching anything Scott related, with my only knowledge of the series being garlic bread, the movie having cool comic effects, and that Scott was in a band. So pretty much completely blind. And I loved the show, I got a tad bit lost and confused in the latter half when I realised this wasn’t a direct adaptation, but I enjoyed it enough to have read the comics and watch the movie since then. I think I would’ve definitely enjoyed it more if I knew the story, and I definitely need to rewatch it, but I still understood mostly everything.
At this point I've come to appreciate how every single iteration of the story: The song, the comic, the film, the video game and now the TV series kind of goes a completely different way with the whole thing and interprets the characters differently to the point where I no longer think there is a definitive version of any character. I remember one of the things that bugged me about the film is that they didn't do Julie Powers justice but here she gets tons of screen time and she's kind of completely different from the comics. I got the impression towards the end that Julie was actually a pretty nice person but she's the only person who doesn't let Scott's bs slide but here she just seems to be kind of evil so I don't know, maybe I was wrong.
When you remember that the original story has already been told 3 separate times in 3 separate mediums, I'm perfectly happy they decided to do something completely new.
Instead of getting a 4th reboot, we got a sequel!
This show blew my mind. Your commentary about it it exactly what I was thinkin. Great video
As someone who only played the game it was nice to see some context for these characters, especially the exes. Even though it wasn't what I expected I was engaged throughout the whole thing.
Didn't feel very complicated either, I think they did a good job making it cohesive so that you don't necessarily need all the extra context
My 12 year old daughter liked . She’s never seen the movie or heard of the comic . But in her words
“Mmm it’s ok , demon slayer is better”
the bait and switch ain't the problem, it's the poor execution. You have to be out of your mind to think any of the exes are "well developed" outside of maybe Roxy and Lucas, Ramona doesn't even get that talk with Gidian despite going out of her way to head over and Petel just fades into the background after claiming himself to be the main character, it's pathetic.
“I dont like it so people will give me attention for not liking it”
Not the temu ad after everything thats come out about it....😭
I just wish we got an actual adaptation. I don’t like that people are saying that people shouldn’t complain because of the comic and movie existing. I wanted to see events throughout the comic be animated and have things be more complex and thorough and not have to cut out so much stuff like the movie did. Then we got a bait and switch after getting bombarded with advertisements about the show being about Scott when it’s instead about Ramona. Then you have future Scott regress and seemingly forget all he’s learned to being a better person in the comics over a misunderstanding of all things. I’ll just ignore whatever the connections the movie has to this and pretend that it’s separate. It’s the best I’m gonna get now. This series, while good overall, was just a big “what could’ve been” for me. I’m tired of this incessant need to massively change things for the sake of it. Scott didn’t need to “take off” in order for the supporting cast to have more development. The comic being the way it was with how it treated characters was just due to bad writing. Maybe if this were 13 episodes and Netflix would stop making its shows shorter and shorter the creator could afford Scott being there I guess idk. I think that could be a factor. Season 2 maybe?
Dude you are so right. I noticed a while through the series that it was unlikely they'd show Steven's boyfriend, and I definitely miss Lisa, but damn what a rush getting to a have another first experience with Scott Pilgrim
Even if the show was good I'm pretty sad that we won't get the original story adaptation in these gorgeous visuals...probably ever
RIP Hiding in public's grandpa
I hope you and everyone of your close ones are doing well
as a fan of both the comics and the movie and now the anime, i love how none of the adaptations are a perfect replica of the comics, each piece of media feels almost like its own entity while still maintaining that scott pilgrim charm. exploring different things in each makes them feel like they actually have a purpose (rather than just being a cash grab like many sequels and live action movies now a days) it’s pretty cool too cuz it’s like we’re slowly getting our own scott pilgrim multiverse! and i love that with the anime we are able to see alternate ideas from the creator that r so new and fresh that we’d never get to see otherwise! as a longtime fan it feels like an even better treat than just an anime covering all the beats of the og-i just love love seeing the universe expanding and growing! it makes me so excited about what else the future has in store for scott pilgrim!!
What Even was?
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I had it on my plan to watch list, let me know if it's ever up again.
While I’m sure it must’ve been such a cool surprise as a long time fan seeing that they decided to change the story in this version, I wish they would’ve made that part a little bit clearer as I am a new fan who thought this would be an adaptation.
didn't watch the movie or read the comic before watching this and I still really enjoyed it. All the caracters and caracter dynamics are just super fun to watch
I actually interpreted the show to be a spiritual sequel the comics and not the film, for several reasons.
Although there are a lot of similarities and call backs to the film, I think first and for most the Older Scott we meet in episode 7 acts a lot more like comic Scott than movie Scott. He still has that foolish confidence that the movie Scott didn’t really have in my opinion.
And in the virtual reality scene, Regular Scott says “Is that our ex? Do we have to confront our past or something? That sounds terrible.” And Older Scott replies “I’m telling you the whole thing was terrible” which I don’t think applies much the movies events, which for the most part was just one eventful week for Scott. I think he’s experiences of reconciling with Envy, The Nega Scott, Lisa, and all the events in the comics would be garner that kind of reaction.
And later in the episode, younger Scott asks Older Scott to tell him what they did wrong so he can do better, and Older Scott remarks “You immediately assume I messed up?!” I interpreted that as Scott being frustrated with still being perceived as in the wrong even after all the changes he’s made.
I think it’s a very human reaction to feel as though all your efforts of self improvement were for nothing. And I’m sure from Scott was frustrated as Ramona at the pointed didn’t actual change like the anime Ramona did, so interpreted it as her doing what she always does.
Granted Scott did massively over react, but that’s normal for Scott and people in general. I viewed Scott’s arc in the anime to be a succession to his arc in the comics of being a cautionary tale that even if you overcome your demons, you can still fall back into toxic behaviors
You wrote a lot.
This show was like the Rebuild of Evangelion or Final Fantasy VII Remake but for Scott Pilgrim lol
I watched this with a good friend of mine who's a huge fan of the comics, I've only seen the movie and know a few things about the comic thanks to her. While I was mostly on board with it, in great part thanks to the amazing artstyle and animation, as well as just how fun the show was in general, she felt a bit conflicted, loving a LOT of stuff but not being 100% on board with everything. It was a cool watch though, hope we get more just so that we can see more of this artstyle and animation.
I’d personally say that it’s more like UBW with how it tackles Scott(s) and puts Ramona in the limelight.
@@theblan1k0ne UBW is technically a route in the original FATE graphic novel though, so even though I like your analogy, it would be UBW but done much later than the original FATE story.
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Gasp I love toradora and I haven’t seen those vids. I second your comment
8:24 Ah yes! Matthew *Mattel!* Loved him in the Barbie movie!
Wondered if anyone would catch that
I really, really wanted to like this show, but the further into it I got the more disappointed I became. I think I was really looking forward to seeing more of Scott and Ramona actually being in a relationship and how it helps them grow past their flaws to become better individuals, even with all the messiness. I was also never sold on Scott in the live-action version and immediately fell in love with the animation's Scott, making it such a let down when he is whisked away in episode one. To me, this also hurt Ramona's character - why is she so hooked on this guy she went on one date with when she is someone who routinely leaves people when it starts to get real? He behavior is of a Romana who has already gone through her character development, which doesn't make sense in this version of the story.
I think this video's point about how this is a response to the movie Scott who has not gone through the growth of comic Scott has softened some of my initial bitterness though, as the idea of Scott just growing up to be a obsessive man-child felt so mean-spirited to me. It's a helpful point of view and maybe I'll be able to watch it again in the future with that perspective in mind and maybe like it. But right now, I can at least say for certain that the production itself is incredible: I loved the animation, the music, the action choreography, voice performances and sound effects -- all of it was awesome. I even like how the mouth-flaps didn't always match with what they were saying, reminding me of old anime dubs. It was a good touch.
But the story... not for me.
The sparks bro.
Well said.
The preview missled us in thinking that it would be an adaption of the comics so a lot of people felt that we were hit by a Bait and Switch
It's alternate history, O'Malley wrote it himself and didn't want to adapt the comic, he wanted to create a new narrative.
I read the comics, and saw the movie. I did NOT like the anime. I didn’t necessarily hate it, I just didnt like it. I found a lot of the stuff stagnant, and i think it took away from some of the momentum that I appreciated in the old one. Also found Older Scott to be corny, and felt empty and bored watching the show without Scott in it. Scott was the glue that got all the characters we see to meet and hang together basically so it just felt empty and weird to me. The animation was nice, the humor was cute, and the cast was great but it just wasn’t what I asked for. I can see why people like it, but I dont think it’s unreasonable to dislike it either as a fan of the movie and comic adaptations. Im glad Scott pilgrim is still being given attention at least and getting love but I would’ve appreciated something else a whole lot more personally.
As someone who watched this without experiencing the comic or movie first, I found it quite enjoyable! The most jarring things were little details like people bursting coins when they died tbh. Aside from that, I was along for the ride and loved every minute of it--it was captivating even without the greater context.
As someone whos only experience with scott pilgrim's story was the video game, i feel like this series was pretty easy to understand and was really enjoyable. Obviously knowing scott isnt supposed to be "dead" at the end if the first episode helps but overall i found it very easy to understand
its hard not to read Bryan Lee O'malley making it so his fully actualised characters repeat the EXACT SAME flaws they spent 6 books overcoming and then get a divorce after the main story as anything but some "love isn't real" recon in lignt of the fact the partner who supported him through writing those books and him got a divorce after.
Trying to change the message to nothing lasts forever, be happy for what you got just because the irl marriage that it drew elements from failed when the story you wrote isn't about that and doesn't share those themes just seemed like squaring the circle.
sad to hear about your granddad, hope you are doing OK, i lost my grandma years ago so I get what you going through
This isn't a sequel. It's just a reimagining of the story. It's a proper adaptation that isn't trying to just lazily recreate either of the stories one for one.
I really enjoy the ending. My only real issues are that Envy and Kim don't really end up being much of a character outside of the books and the Gideon Julie relationship just seems like a bland wouldn't it be funny if these two were together without much reasoning or desire to explore them.
All that stuff STILL happened in the comics. Scott has always been kind of dopey. And we know he is TERRIBLE at break ups. Ramona is bad with communication. He thought the space she needed was a divorce. So his dumbass BECAME a evil ex. It's hilarious and poetic. It's a sweet ass semi-sequel. The evil exes were 1 dimensional jerks, and Ramona was always sort of a bitch to them growing up. This is a really cool way to promote growth and show depth of all the characters and give them room to be humans. Instead of pissed off people who get murdered. I thought it was a super rad addition to the lore.
I always wanted a comic adaptation and was really excited for this. I was a little let down when i realized i wasnt getting that but i absolutely loved this sequel and loved that we got more in this universe
I say its like going to your favorite restaurant because youre craving your regular and being ket down theyre out so you pick something new on the menu and find yourself honestly surprised that its super delicious
Like you still wish you had gottwn your regular ordwr but you aren't regretful because you still left happy and satisfied as well as pleased with thevnew experience
That is 100% this scott adaptation
Yeah, I still want the adaptation, but as live action series, sounds less like "the comic's drawing but in movement" and giving a much more nuanced way to adapt the story while expanding and being faithful to a degree!
on your other video i said i expected this series to be bad, but i came here to say that it is cool™️
I really loved it! Ramona confronting her failure to properly address her Exes. Knives growing on her own out of the relationship she had with Scott. The Exes being able to live past their fate with Scott and having both lovable and hilarious post Ramona lives. Scott being hilariously denied a fight by all thr Exes, but having to face his future flawed self and understand what he actually needs to change in himself on his own way.
Yes. I would say that it _requires_ some familiarity with Scott Pilgrim's original story, otherwise I can imagine some people feeling absolutely lost in Takes Off, but it is really enjoyable to watch, pretty to see and nice to the ears.
Also, Knives is the sweetest cinnamon roll and she needs to be protected at all costs!!!
each character is worse than their original versions
Ramona never really shows that regret to her exes or atoning, sure she 'fixes" them but never actually grows
same to Knives entire arc gone cause they removed Scott
the fact Scott was gone at all highlights really the issue of this show at all, push him out to push Ramona
I'm sorry to hear about your grandpa and send you and your whole family my condolences.
They only problem is with how the advertised it. I was really skeptical before i finished as I had read some reddit comments but people really can't appreciate how clever and excellent' Brian's writing is. I still want an adaptation of the OG, but i really love what we got here.
I watched the show without watching the movie and reading comic and I still really enjoyed it. I don’t think it needs prior context although I’m sure context may elevate the show but still is good
I had a passing understanding of the show and never read the comics and I think I understood all that stuff pretty decently.
I loved the show. Big FLCL comparisons, with the wacky characters and insane fight sequences, along with it being a highly stylized study of a single character (Ramona) makes this so so good. As FLCL is my favorite show, the fact I wasn't around for its initial airing always makes me sad. But now it's like I get to experience the joy other people got back then with this show. It's also great to see such a public Japanese and American crossover. I think this one will age really well. It has all the hallmarks of a cult classic. I'm glad they did something new instead of a full on adaption. Wallace is my favorite variation of his character so far. Lots of feelings about this, but the short of it is that I love this, and I'm glad it exists.
As someone who had this anime as their first introduction to Scott Pilgrim, I feel it was executed well enough without absolutely needing that context from the original comics and movie. They'll be an amazing supplement, I'm sure, but it's totally doable to just watch the anime.
I’m not upset at the direction it took or the story like others, I just wish it didn’t advertise it as an adaptation of the original comics, granted that’s egg on my face for not doing any research before hand (if there’s any), but I would have appreciated it if they hadn’t gotten my hopes up like that
I think I was most disappointed since it was not an adaptation, but felt more like an alternative new game plus timeline in Nier. Then it just went to explore and change character areas on characters that got less screen time in the movie. I really disliked the episode of them making the movie as it felt like a parody than retelling or developing the story and universe of Scott more. While it was certainly nice to see Ramona take a more active role in the story, I did not feel like she had enough charisma to carry the show with her cold delivery. While I am happy an animated Scott Pilgrim exists, I am already looking to get the graphic novels to understand the real story.
yeah its such a dichotomy to go from silly bubbly scott to the dry, reserved and almost montone ramona
Nah, we had wallace to make us not feel the cold lol
2:04 my ass my genuinely perdicting that lisa would be a the person who kidnapped Scott lol
I binged the whole thing yesterday. It was fine. Not bad at all but not amazing. It could've used more Scott and Ramona relationship building. Comics are still the best and the movie second.
I've never consumed any Scott Pilgrim media and I followed the world building and story just fine. It's a good show. I have no problem with it.
Probably the best companion piece/sequel/adaptation we will EVER get.
People are just mad that Ramona was the main character, but quite frankly her backstory is far more interesting and so is her character.
I really loved this show, I think I prefer it to the film just because of the world building (I haven't read the comics). One thing I really liked is that because it was Ramona trying to get Scott, it actually made it feel like she likes him too. In the film the relationship feels really one sided
about the part with people coming into this anime blind, the movie is also on netflix. i watched it right before watching takes off
The only problem with this series is there isnt enough scott to properly develop his arc
My only issue and the circles i hang in have the issue is that it was sold as a adaptation of the comic. If they had came out and said This is Scott Pilgrim but where but about Ramona. I dont see as many people having a big issue with it.
my only thought was that the story was told from scott's perspective. so all the odd video game and pop culture stuff was how he saw the world. so if that is shifted over to Ramona then would it still exist that way? i thought like her traveling thru sub-space and her bag was just scott thinking she always on time and she well prepared. seen thru unmature eyes would be she move faster then light and her bag holds everything.....
This anime has the seal of approval from me, a lifelong Scott Pilgrim fan! I really want it to get renewed for a second season, so we can actually see Scott confront his baggage and learn to be a better guy to hopefully prevent himself from turning into a villain. We can also see what nefarious plans Gideon and Julie are up to, even have Lisa and Joseph come into the story.
Roxie did nothing wrong and I hope she matches with the video store girl.
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As someone who hasn't seen the movie, nor read the comics (I had vague knowledge of the plot, ya know, Scott is a weird dude in his young twenties dating a high schooler and then has to defeat Ramona's 7 evil exes to be with her), I genuinely really loved the show, even without the backstory of the movie or comics. Yes, it took me until like episode 3 to realize they weren't all the same story, but I enjoyed the story that played out nonetheless. Realizing it was going to be Ramona confronting her exes instead of Scott was a very neat take on the narrative, and the show as a whole made me WANT to go read the comics so I could get to know all these beloved characters better and spend more time with them. I think as a stand-alone show it still works, but it does compel you to go back and read/watch the other material :)
I'm here wondering if this fixes the "Scott Pilgrim ruined a generation of women" complaint that was rampant around the internet back when the series first got popular.
You know, since Ramona is the lead basically.
wait they showed the gideon cahin scene with ramona and showed the fight in the halloween party julie had with robot 01 in the virtual guy so i think this is comic scott not movie scott
The difference between the Comics and Movie, and SPTO series is that the Comics and Movie it shows how a teenager would deal with such problems. While in the SPTO series it shows how an adult would deal with such problems.
A nice subtle touch at the end. The franchise has Romana running away from her problems, with her delivery job symbolizing that. In SPTO she finds she likes stunt work and she becomes a stunt woman, thus her job is to face danger for a living.
Left when i saw the temu placement. I dont think i need to explain
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Love what they did with Matthew Patel as well. Man what a glow up, from beginner boss to Star of the show
I literally don't care about him in any other version, his song in the movie is my least favorite scene but he is SOOOO GOATED in the anime. I love him to death. Seriously glowup of the millenia
Clearly, the anime takes place in a parallel universe.
It was supposed to be like the movie, until the futuristic Scott captured the present Scott, during battle with the 1st evil ex.
So the anime focuses a lot more on Ramona and her exes, which is very cool. However, I did miss Scott throughout the series.
referred to Science SARU near the beginning as "Yuasa's studio," but I think Yuasa stopped being the leader ~3 years ago
Speaking as someone who read around 15-16 chapter of the comic and seen the movie 2 or 3 times this show I feel has a good first half and meh second half. The first half gives us an interesting new dyamic to look at for these characters (Lucas and Roxy especially) and Ramona trying to reconcile with her exes is great, but the second half feels like more stuff happen that Ramona is in the background of. Episode 5 drops the reconcile aspect and makes some decent joke, but I feel become a bad way to characterize Todd leaving him a mess. Episode 6 is really just the fun opening and then a drag out with Gideon behavior change (which is fine), context on the twins backstory and then the mystery is solved poof, it honestly not that good imo. Episode 7 is just speedrunning Scott to be developed which doesn't feel earned and has a hook mystery which you can eaisly figure out. Episode 8 is fine with an epic battle, but I feel the way Future Scott is handled doesn't solve the problem which the previous episode brought up. The whole aspect of Ramona not trying to run away from her past feels so contradictory when she solves the Future Scott problem by poofing him away and instead combing with pass Ramona to help a Scott who hasn't gone dark side. Again I think there could have been a decent what if, but I can't call it great due to the condense series second half.
I’ll watch the video in a sec, but I freaking loved it. Just everything about it was amazing and I’m not gonna gush here. My only real complaints were that I wish it had more Scott, and that the resolution felt a bit like it came out of nowhere(Not to say I disagree with it, the execution was just questionable). I swear man, anime originals need to keep happening because they’re consistently the best shows. Haven’t read(Yet for whatever reason own) the comics, but I definitely plan to after this.
Also, someone already said it, but Unlimited… BLADE WORKS!
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Biggest flaw to me is just that Scott and Ramona end up unchanged by the movie, but I appreciate how they used that to show both of them are willing to fight for each other and are still together even after seeing versions of them that failed.
I loved this show though. It's so nice just seeing the characters grow and interact, even if it was at the cost of not having Scott for most of it.
I've seen some pretty bad takes though.
Scott Pilgrim is one of my favorite things of all time, after watching the movie I moved to toronto to study for a bit and I was just 15, the impact this series has had in me as a whole is massive and even though I was sad about not having an actual adaptation of the comic (Lisa fans will never recover) I am so happy to have scott takes off since it gives me more of something I really wanted and that is just to get to see more of scott pilgrim characters outside of scott since he has already been explored twice, and having a critic of movie scott since he really never learned his lesson, having Ramona also get more development was great since she should always have been the one that fixed things with her exes.
I do dislike the whole "Sparks" since I hate that depiction of Love in Media but I understand it was due to time and also feel like if you are new to scott pilgrim and see this series the enjoyment you would get is greatly diminished.
With all that said I loved every second and it made it even clearer that scott pilgrim is my favorite thing of all time.
W vid and I use temu as well but just from a moral standpoint I probably wouldn’t endorse is… I mean get that bag I guess but there’s a reasons everything is so cheap
I think this was a good idea. Instead of giving us an adaptation, we get to see our characters grow. Ramona and Scott story is already over, so its better to let their characters grow.
I heard info well unfortunately I do not have the source, but I think you can google on what bryan lee o'malley stated since he wrote the plot for scott pilgrim takes off did stated that he wanted to change up the characters and make them grow or at least make them somewhat likeable.
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I liked it, was a little disappointed it wasn't a more faithful adaptation. I almost wish it has a season per book and the content from this included as a form of adaptation expansion. Either way, it was a good Scott Pilgrim content regardless.
I really hope we get a second season even though it doesn't NEED one
The creator said they want to just be 1 season since Netflix cancels after one
@@littlesparrow303 I'm aware, that's why I said it doesn't NEED abother season. just that it would've been nice
I never seen anything scott pilgrim related befor I watched this, I had no idea what is going on plot wise, I liked the animation tho
Still a bait and switch. Glad their is a part of the audience that enjoys, yet their is no denying that there is also a segment that feels cheated or lied to about this being a proper adaption of the source material. This being some extention of the live action was such a weird choice, when the easiest path was to do follow the source and add some character development around the exes and Ramona. This would have lead to new audience going back to the source material, the established audience being happy and sharing with their buds and other, merchandise sales rise, all is good in the neighborhood, like they wizards in Japan do with their comic tales moving to other mediums. But this is what we got, so be it.
Their is possessive. "That is their cat"
There is locative. "It's over there"
They're is a conjunction "They're my friends"
Hope this helps
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I was pleasantly surprised by the anime. Scott Pilgrim is my favorite comic series and I was excited to see a more faithful adaptation of it but I'm really glad they did something new. Even Older Scott is the Scott from the comic years after the series ends so they turned the anime into a sequel in an interesting way. I like the idea that Scott and Ramona's character arcs span two different timelines