Our Clapped Out Honda CR500 Stretches its Legs (Sand Drag Racing)
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- Опубликовано: 2 янв 2024
- We take our 1985 Honda CR500 to Busco Beach ATV park to hit the track and drag strip. This will the the first time this short rod CR500 has been out of the CarsandCameras Motorplex, and riding the big bore 2 stroke on the sand is trickier than we thought! The CR500 dirt bike wants to wash out in the sand, and the drag strip is in not great condition, leading to slow launches at the drag strip. We put the CR500 up against our 263cc Mega Moto 212 mini bike, and the results were surprisingly close!
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The 500 is crying for a full rebuild boys give it what it deserves
Full restoration!!!!!
Why? Give it to someone who can ride the damn thing.. that was hard to watch
Yes!! I am sure that would correct many woes. That would be worth a lot, minted out, too.
It's only practice! I believe anyone has the ability to ride it with only practice
You foul the plug when You skairt. Jussayin.
Dudes! From a old guy that rode those back in the day. They do not like being putted, they foul out the plugs real easy. Keep it screaming! For sand, stick your butt out over the rear wheel, keep it hammered and steer with the rear!✊ keep up the awesome job guys!
Hell thats all 2 smokes tho.
@@k24civic not a lot of 2-strokes for the last 20+ years. So just throwing out the info. I love 2 strokes! I got to ride RZ 350’s on the street bake in the late 80’s early 90”s when you could still buy them really reasonable. Best power for the money back then!
If jetted correctly with the fuel mix correctly it doesn't matter.
@@k24civic incorrect
@@proudpennsylvaniaman7996 well, back in about 1990 ish, I rode a dead nuts stock CR500 on the Rampart Range trails in Colorado and with the stock sprockets you couldn’t keep the rpm’s up it tight spots because it will just jump like a madman with a twitch of the throttle. On trails in the mountains, that can kill you.
Full rebuild and a rider that's not afraid of it that's what the bike needs
They haven't even touched the power band yet.😂
I never heard the power valve open. They are just putting slow.
That CR500 is too much bike for you guys. That's not a dig on you guys, that bike is too much for most people. Get yourself's a CR 125 or even a 250. Get rid of that 500 before someone gets killed. Love that cross cart you've just built. Now you have to paint it.
Your right it's for a big heavy man,it scared me,I traded mine off for a truck
Somebody save that bike from these guys. Yikes.
😂😂😂 you are not wrong buddy
That bike has a few more notches at least 😅
Been watching yall since the very beginning, the 500 needs a bigger pilot jet to idle and start right up
I was thinking the same thing. When he was adjusting the idle screw then whacked the throttle it bogged then revved and you could hear the pitch of the engine change and start hunting. I sounded lean and unhappy for a short amount of time. Good call man
I concur. It hasn't sounded right in any video.
i love how you guys can rip a mini bike but its soo foreign to ride an actual dirt bike lol
🤔🤣😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
especially when it's basically the king of dirt bikes. this thing is a friggin monster
@@ghomerhust dude even when they had the kx 80 they were so scared to let the thing rip
And you think the 500 is fast. You should see my Honda xr650r on sand. I drag raced it a Silverlake Sand Dunes in Michigan and won three races against turbo and blower trucks and rails. Over a dozen at a time. Scared to fall as they were right behind me at the big end. But the funnest thing in the world to do.
I'm 67 years old, my main dune machine is a CR 500. You need to air down the knobbie in the sand and remember, in the sand speed is stability.
Always love to hear that sound … brings back memories thank you… always enjoy your videos 😎👍
Guys we really all need to rally around Charles’s bike RN. He just took it off that bike meth and it’s having a hard time staying strong 😂😂
Stop fighting the bike and ride is the best advice I’ve always been given.
I'm thinking hard starting maybe a crank seal starting to fail on the 500. I could be wrong but I'd check them.
You guys should sell or trade that cr500 for something usefull. I'm worried that it's going to hurt one of you guys, and we don't need that.
Man nothing like that two-stroke sound when they're getting it
great stuff guys thanks, looked like a fun day at work.
Great video guys.....I almost peed my pants when Isaac said...."we better find this water problem "....after beating the everloving crap out of it numerous times....lmao....I see that alot....it's funny material
You guys really gotta find someone that has the skills to ride that CR500 so you can actually see the potential, I used to race a CR500 in the late 80's through the 90's ,I just love the CR500's,what a great bike but it's a bit heavy for supercross racing
Yes it’s very annoying injustice wanna be there so I can rip it throw roosts 20ft dnt squeeze the grips let it ride you but be in control faster the easier to get threw that sand
Preach!
@@MC-kd3yb yea man I think besides the rad it’s needs carb rebuild breaks up 1 n 2 but a opens up in 3 my rm 250 did same and as a bad float only could pull start
it's like trying to learn to shoot on a .50 cal. Haha. shoulda started with a CR125!
@@CarsandCameras yea def and learn how 2strokes handle that power band can be deadly lol but once you get used to it it’s a hell of a adrenaline rush
John says you really have to be built different to ride this hard, actually you can't be afraid it. It take big balls to send this kind of bike as fast as it goes an better suspension increases confidence, I'm 6'2 and been riding since 1975. These big bore bad boys have been throughout my life
This bike was given to mankind to humble us
Ike's right at the end of the video, a good running 500 isn't that hard to start. I have a '97 KX500 that starts third kick every time. There's definitely a technique to it, but it running right helps a ton. Hope you guys work out the gremlins. I'd look at reeds, check the jets, and rebuild the bottom end with new seals at a minimum.
I have a kx500 1990 it'll start on the second kick
Yeah I don't know about the 500s but my neighbor had a 87 CR250 and he rebuilt the top end after every hard weekend
@@joshuaolander201 He probably did it just to be safe and to make sure the bike was always fresh. My younger brother always tore the top off of his 93 CR250 after we did a day of riding the trails back when we were still in high school. Of course he never put a new parts in since we had no money. It was mostly to check and see if the bike was wearing properly on whatever oil mix he was running.
Fellers I've had mine for 10 years before I had to rebuild it the first time I still have it today I bought it brand new and I'm 53 and I'm still ready the same bike..
@@Slane583 I don't know he was a rich kid he might have been replacing Parts every time on a 1980 xr200 that was mildly worked over
If you're going to run it on sand anymore you guys should get a pair of sand tires or at least a paddle tire for the rear. The 500 just has too much power to get traction on sand with knobby tires.
You could also lower the tire pressure by a few psi to help with traction also. 👍👍
2am and this Old Man from Washington NC enjoying with my coffee ☕. As always really enjoy your videos. A head I see a rebuild to get it right. Love You Guys 🛵🧔💝💝💝
Glad to see another video about the 500.
I had a Honda 350 4 barrel and my friend had the 2 barrel! His was faster in the low end but I'd blow him away on the top. I rode the bike all through my teen years it was awesome!!
You cant go slow in sand because itll wash out way to easy, keep up the momentum through ruts and shell glide right over everything
I love your guys videos I’ve been watching them for years you guys come up with the perfect ideas you guys made me wanna start posting now
YESSIR THE 500 BACK AT IT
Nice quote from Austin Powers btw
You guys should get a 1.8 bar radiator cap temp gauge for the 500. I had a issue with my crf250r and my yz125 spitting coolant for a minute and that seemed to fix it. Along with knowing what temp the bike is at is nice
Reminds me of the first time i took my uncles "widowmaker" for a rip. Scared shiftless hahaha. Much like a carnival ride, that perticular model should have come with height and weight restrictions. Lol. Nice run guys. 🕶
Every manufacturer should strive for Honda build quality.
We found this old engine at the bottom of the ocean, but since it's a Honda, I'm sure it will start right up.
Please don't ever stop making videos. I remember when y'all were burning up a trail along the property line at john's parent's house 🤣
Great video guys! The hard part with the 500s is they need to be rode hard to be happy. I would say a bigger pilot jet would help with the start up too. John, you. Need to find a big open pasture or field to get comfortable getting after it. I had one years and years ago, I feel your pain. Later on I ended up with a KTM 250sx and was much happier. And they are still violent bikes, just not quite as bad as a 500. Lol
I was lucky, I grew up with a with the great YZ 80 and then a 250 the transition was very natural. Years later I ride my friends 500 and it just felt so natural. Man I miss those days 😊
I loved my Penton/KTM 250 and 400 bikes too, but that was 45 - 50 Years ago! Not as rowdy as the CR 500 but plenty fast for me.
I ended up getting a KTM 300 with electric start, the best thing I ever did lol
Agree, something is off with the carburator.
Charles's mini bike is surprising fast for being half the displacement and a 4 stroke.
He wasn't even on methanol. If he was he might have won or tied. Literally takes a CR500 to beat a mini bike lol
But it also makes you wonder how tired the engine on that CR500 is@@WyFoster
and the fact Charles weighs 90 lbs might help it a teensy bit lol
Who else caught the joke about the pump that Charles said and what movie was it from 😂nice one chuck
Ike's modeling at the end is hilarious.
You're going too easy on it. Two-strokes like violence!
Don't clutch the up shifts.
Nice find on the cb350 four. Hoping to see some videos of that
westport wa.stat here. thank you for bring me along sirs.
Love you guys glad ike got on the bike and partlyopend her up
Don't be scared of that 500, but build your self up to a strong grip. ;)
Idk how someone rides a dirt bike with the clutch in 90% of the time it's crazy how foreign an actually dirt bike is to them
Yessss gents!!!!
Just what the doctor ordered 😁😁😁
Happy New Years!!
I love these videos. Need more dirtbike vids!
You may want to pressure test the crankcase on the big Honda.
They did several episodes ago and it had a bad seal but I can't remember which one.
@@majorwedgie8166 I'm thinking the hard starting is a leaky crankcase, so kick starting doesn't push the fuel charge into the cylinder well. But pulling the bike causes the fuel to be forced into the cylinder. Because they are turning the engine much faster.
@@grizsgarage good point, not to mention that it's an antique and really needs a rebuild. A lot has to be right before she will cooperate.
To help the CR500 start, adjust the idle screw out a total of 2 to 2 1/2 out. Also I can tell that somebody has moved the Kickstart backward, in the up position the Kickstart should almost touch the jug
You are better with a long kick than a short stab. I rode one for 10 years, also start out in second or third gear to keep the front end down
Cant wait for the next video of the cr 500 lovw these videos keep up the good work
I've heard stories about those CR 500's, but never rode one. But, in the mid 70's bought a 71 Suzuki TM400, & rode it for quite a few years (& A 68 Kawasaki Avenger SS 350 twin 2 stroke, among many others. Honda 400 4 cyl super sport). & being a bigger guy, A tach can be your friend. Learn by playing below the power band (next gear), till ya get the hang. We used to cut off every other set of lugs for a cheap sand paddle in the dunes. But those thumpers could be widow makers in a heartbeat! Get it running better, then get some hours on it, you'll love the ride! Great work trying to keep that one alive, looking forward to more adventures! Thanx !
Yup em tm400 was a demon the real widow maker
I think you'll do a lot better if you had a paddle tire it would be much easier to ride in that sand PS I love big bore two strokes! So much fun
You would have 3 busted up bloggers trying to make vids from wheelchairs lol
Very true
@@willattwood8303 after watching a bit further, Ike knows how to ride... John scared me just watching him and even he admitted that he needs more practice but then Isaac gets on it and proves your point.
Check the water pump to make sure it hasn’t rotted through and pisses the water into the gear box. The side case is Mag. One more thing launch it in 4th gear and click 5th ASAP
Suspicions confirmed. Just let Isaac and Charles ride the real bikes. Let John film lol
I see what you did there, Charles... Austin Powers reference didn't go unnoticed!
If you get the chance to get one, a 70's era Bultaco is a heckuva experience. Everything on the wrong side and the engine might be running backwards when you start it. Awesome ride - once you master it. I grew up on one back in the 70's. Now, in my 60's I'd probably kill myself on one... ROFL!
Thanks for the fun videos!
... but what a way to go!😊
Need to let a little air out of the rear tire! It’s gonna spin no matter what but with a little less pressure it’ll hook up better
them are a furious ride man lol. great vid🤘
I have always been afraid of the 500! The throttle response is crazy and it just wants to blast out from under you. I think a 250 is plenty for anyone but a pro with huge balls and a lose screw or two! 😂
I'm no pro but I've got the other parts covered 😂
@@jakeparks1 😂
A 500 2 stroke is not something you just get on and go, most people I know worked their way up to it, I got on my uncle's 500 years ago after only being attuned to a 250 Suzuki I was not ready for it
You guys need to remember that if you change altitude you need to check the jetting. If you go up in altitude you need to lean it out, lower in altitude you need to richen it up. The air gets thinner as you go up altitude.
What makes you think they changed altitude in eastern NC?
You boys gave us a great 2023! Keep up the great work in 2024!
Man, those old CR500's are beasts!
Probably crank seals on the 500. And a fresh reed valve.
It could possibly be bad grounding locations as well. LUND MX just got his hands on a 85 CR500 and his wouldn't even attempt to make sparks. Even with trying the stators, coils and cdi boxes he knew worked that came from his other 500's that would start in two kicks.
Way to much bike for you, y’all gonna hurt yourselves
excited to see that cb350 restored the cars and carmeras way!
The big CC two strokes are a different animal..... Owned many TM 400 Suzuki among my favorite....I had Honda 350 four when I was a teenager....fun 😊 four days no pun intended....open element air cleaners and four into one kerker makes for fun noises...
You guys have to collab with a pro rider to come treat that 500 right.. 🏍Let us see what it can do !! It's def. not made for low rpm & leisurely Sunday cruises =)
You don't even need a "Pro" Rider just some one who races Dirt bikes can rip on that 500
I think the 500 qualifies as "Anger Management"!!!😅
@@jmax2083 Would you consider a "dirt bike racer" to be a pro ?? I sure would.
dude, get your ELBOWS up when you ride a bike,, like you're doing a push up. NEVER ride elbows down, you have zero control and it forces you back on the seat, your chin should be almost over the bars
No clue how I ever rode one of those as a kid and survived… my cousin had one and it was a fun time
Might need to come Superman with my cr 500 , I’ll show you how to ride and start one 👍
Weak sauce, at least get the bike out of second gear......
It’s more like get the bike into the power band
Who knew CR500 stood for Can't Run 500? 😂
Anyone who owned/owns one. 🤣
For some odd reason I can't comment on the regular comments is that being said since I can comment here I'm going to let you know my thoughts can you imagine putting that motor on a go-kart have fun guys stay safe and let's all try to have a great New Year even though we still have Biden in office🤣✝️😇🙏❤️🇺🇲💯👍
PS I have a carburetor that would probably work on that is brand spanking new how do you still have a 400 Yamaha and a CR 250R that ran about is good as your CR500
CAN'T RIDE. lol
A cr500 would start if you knew how to start her properly 😂
Fuel and choke on, tilt her over to the side till the float bowl overflows, put her in gear and rock her back and forward, then tdc and a good kick she'll run first/second kick, that starting process never fails
@@rabbyredpath3598 exactly who kick starts something with the littlest baby kicks possible I have ridden 3 different cr500s you gotta find that spot and blast it down
daang that minibike keeping up with the cr500 is crazy. what a sweet mini. ill have to watch the build on that one
This right here my favorite channel for when I'm laying logs in the old watering hole
You know you guys don't have to mess up the frame to put that engine on something on 4 wheels that you will feel comfortable giving it the stuff
You need to fix the honda properly and step away from China guys. You mean well but you are going in the wrong direction
Okay John your starting to scare me lol. Once you get the hang of it it's a blast to ride!! Also, you gotta tell IT who's riding who! Peace and Love y'all ---17---
There are only a handful of men on the planet who can handle everything that bike is willing to dish out.
Stay away from the big boy bikes, your way out of your league. Keep building mini bikes... your kinda of good at that!
Cross kart just looks so legit! It's a awesome design!
Cool video guys
I love the way it quickly counters the riders anger and frustration from trying to start it by terrifying them.
Yaaaaaahooooo! Loved it :) One small word of complaint though... I CHOKED on my lamb bhuna and then couldn't stop laughing when your "model" was showing off the build week t-shirt... reminded me of every 1980's home shopping catalogue or Man at C&A advert... classic! ;)Into the vault of Saved C&C /Isaac it'll be fine videos to watch on the days when live is a little bit meeeeh :) x
😂😂😂 Ike missed his calling! He belongs on the catwalk!
I own one of them 350 fours and its so awsome it has a powerband like a 2 stroke its wicked cool
The way the CR500's front end is floating I'd suggest a full seal rebuild and fresh oil
Happy new year lads 💪
Ole man Honda once said out of all the engines he designed he was most proud of the 350 4 cly. I would love to have one.
one day you have to try and get an professional dirt bike rider on this to see what they can do on it, and maybe some other minibikes you have lmao
Before I learned how to start my cr500 I had to get pulled/bump start to get it running as well. Once I learned the technique I can get it to start on the first kick almost every time, even after sitting all winter. There's a handful of little details to doing it, I can make a video demonstrating if you'd like.
My first bike as a kid was a 1983 XR100. Beautiful bike, but it's hard to believe that Honda was developing the CR500 that same year and was selling them the next. The 2 bikes are complete opposites in almost every way apart from color and number of wheels. A mighty sixty horsepower versus... six. I miss that XR100.
It's been fun watching this series, hope you guys have a few more planned for this bike. Do a rebuild! Take it to a track and do a collab with someone who'll jump it! You guys need to keep making videos though, so don't hurt yourselves lol take care and thanks for the fun content.
- Matt
Ike looks like bubbles on the CR
Ike, you missed your calling. Sears models - eat your hearts out!! 😂
Once again a good video guys be careful on that 500 also the Quadzilla 500 four-wheeler had problems starting when they got hot I used to ride a 250R 85 last of the leaded bikes mine was a little beast good video
Cool cb350. The cylinder bore on that can't be more than 2 in.lol my scariest ride on a motorbike was the 750 triple. I had enough for life after a mile. Lol
My only time on one of those suicide 500s was when I swapped my Suicidal 200x (Big Bore Cam and head work 30 mil carb super trap Extended swingarm and 8-in over Dura blue axle. ) for a short time when riding.
I survived but it scared the crap out of me. I'm 6 ft and my feet were still 8 inches from the ground. Wasn't a big deal until I ended up on a long 2 ft wide Ridge. Lol Being new it was scary fast although handled quite nicely.
Same couldn't be said for two of my friends. I didn't realize the one I swapped with had never been on a three-wheeler. He was going to show off ended up nailing the side of the van hard with the driver and all the beer he just picked up in between. He ended up with a broken arm and almost lost his eye plus it totaled the side of his van. Or rather company van which got him fired.
My three wheeler was just a little Dusty.lol
Still have it still runs.
Now if only I still could. Seven decades of trashing my body has taken its toll.lol
🤠🏞️🐂
Charles mini bike is fast. The way that 500 was idling i suspect it is lean on the bottom maybe pilot jet or change the clip on the needle. great content guys.
Good job guys, im no CR500 expert, just one of the fortunate /unfortunate people to of owned one back in the 90s. It could be a number of issues, from the impeller bearing seal letting bottom end pressure through and the cap is designed to release over pressuring coling fluids, but normally there is a pressure release hole in the impeller casing that would piss coolant first.
Bad head and or head gasket. A hole in the rad. Or cracked boar into the cooling sleeve and that's over pressuring it. Good luck with it, that bike wants to live, and they are getting a bit thin on the ground now.
Happy New Year to all the Cars and Cameras subscribers from the UK.
Brings back many memories me and a couple of friends had an 84 rm 500 we were 16 and scared of it but we needed see what she was capable of so with a cutout cereal box and liquid gasket bodged the blown gasket and cranked the head bolts down and sent it into orbit we sold it after a very near death my friend lifted it to far and flipped God was looking down on him that day the back of the bike snapped of and had heavy damage
pressure check the coolant system and engine included, an blown head gasket or warped head will aid in hard starting, fouling of plugs and in cars it causes water to flush out of the system because it builds up steam.
"What's Pro Bono?" That made me laugh for some reason. 😄
That was a good three seconds of off throttle to shift 😂
Oh yeah loved it I have an 2017 kx450f that would love to have fun next to that bike my dad have some fast bikes just sitting
Just a FYI, I'm an amputee, lost my right arm in a motorcycle accident (street bike).. It look over a decade but I rode again, started on my kx-125, then I bought a cr-480, yes I rode that bike with one arm and you guys need to let the back wheel steer.. too many mini bikes with no power, big bore power you steer with the back tire..