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Conservatives: The Bible will be in every class!
Church of Satan: sup? 😈
*The Satanic Temple
CoS won't lift a finger
The Spirit of George Carlin empower the Children . George Carlin speaks Plain Truth of what you have to watch out in Religion, Government, People.
I think you mean the Satanic Temple. They're the activists
@@screechingwind114 George Carlins book "Brain Droppings" should be mandated in every classroom.
Can't. Wait.
Absolutely disgraceful! Ryan Walters office got at least one lengthy and rather disdainful message about this ridiculousness first thing this morning. As an Oklahoman, I'm fed up with his antics and that it has cost Oklahoma billions of dollars in new industry.
It is also costing oaklahomians quite a lot of taxpayer money for litigation that then isn't available for educating the students. Rather amazes me that people aren't seeing that.
Fun fact: The Puritans didn't celebrate Christmas because they interpreted the Bible literally, and Christmas is not in the Bible.
Another fun fact: from what I can tell of the Puritans, they were not fans of fun nor facts….
What I consider the funnest fact: Puritans left England for America to escape religious discrimination and persecution.
@@danieldickson8591 They went to the Colonies to Be the Persecutors.
The original War on Christmas.
Pagan origins yet my dad was yelling at clerks if they said "happy holidays" instead of "merry christmas" a couple decades before the War on Christmas was a conservative news talking point
I’m so sick of being saturated with the Christian mythology and hypocrisy!!
Me too. I truly believed we would have evolved past the need for this myth by now. When we created life in a petri dish, I thought science won. But I underestimated the intellectual limitations of our species.
A myth it is, a made up religious myth.
@@lisaahmari7199 A little bit of brainwashing goes a long ways.
It hasn't helped that organized religion is given special status and tax exemptions by the government. Religion was created for control and power over the people and folks will never willingly give that up. It doesn't help that it is a refuge for conmen and other megalomaniacs.
True. Some brains being more vulnerable than others.
I don't want to poke fun at it because I truly feel that biblical indoctrination is a form of child abuse. The most common form in America. They get a kid and terrorize them with threats of Hell as an infant and that kid is going to retain that foundational terror of ever questioning those teachings. Especially when it is pounded into your psyche that you can burn in hell for even questioning....just questioning....nothing else.
I broke free at age nine but no one in my Catholic family ever badly terrorized me into believing all that sick gobbledy gook. They pushed it on me but not with a fanatical frenzy, like Evangelicals do. I am thankful to them for that.@deathbytheblade6757
Another waste of taxpayer dollars fighting this through the courts.
they should sent the bill to the politicians trying to overthrow the constitution
What in the USA stopped following "Separation of Church & State" !? Thanks Beau
Thanks Beau and crew 😊.
Thanks!
This was the case where I went to school in rural Missouri in the 80's. Bible, prayer, hymns, all of it.
The dog has not learned to stop chasing the car!
They're watching their pews empty out as they get grayer and grayer. They're doing 25 funerals for every baptism. The plates are lighter and lighter. They are fighting at business meetings about how to get the bills paid. They pay their pastors nothing. They had to make the women clean the church when the janitor was let go. THIS IS THE EXTINCTION BURST OF A FAILED RELIGION.
Yes it is and the way to accelerate their demise even more is to forcibly foist their views on an unwilling public.
One can only hope. 🙏
Love that too! Thanks 😊
@jenna2431 Exactly, and they'e often paying out huge sums in lawsuits over s^x harrassment and abuse. And people are leaving because alot of churches have gone full maga and are preaching about their Orange savior instead of The savior.
It’s a failure of one radical sect of a religion don’t confuse these nut jobs with the rest of us
The parents are responsible for teaching their children religion, not the schools. INOW, they're the ones always going on about parental rights, but expect the state to do their jobs.
Republicans are the real groomers
Am I incorrect in saying the next step is appealing the state Supreme Court to the US Supreme Court where it gets summarily overruled while the state impeaches every justice who voted against it?
There is no ignorance as mightily self-assured as pious ignorance
Omg! DARIA!!!
Imagine Christian’s reading the Bible… the none population would double in 2 years.
Hey kids time to start planning walkouts!
4:32 Oklahoma state Supreme Court ruled in may 2023 that abortion is legal in Oklahoma if a doctor determines that the females life is threatened. State legislators ignore it as does state AG Drummond
What I want to know is who would be getting paid millions of dollars to print these Bibles and which denomination’s translation this is.
The current Head of Education in Oklahoma needs to be removed. He's tried to pull many similar things. Plus has caused multiple lawsuits, and is totally a tool of a handful of rich donors with agendas.
What was the "other thing" happening at the founding of the country??
Ah… the Law of Unintended Consequences….
Sick, Sad World
When "It's just a historical document" becomes "It's just a historical book". We go from "It's just a small poster on the wall" to "It needs to be taught as a foundation of the nation".
Freedom of is freedom from.
Back to 'Prohibition' days and the inevitable outcomes 😏
DON'T challenge it please! Let them teach this to young kids.
Let's start with Deuteronomy and Leviticus.
And are they gonna teach the actual content, incest, murder, genocide etc….
Or are they gonna cherry pick like they always have?
It’s time for all federal money to stop going to schools that pull this garbage.
Also may lead to more children learning at home. Like a turn around of the families that did so at home for religious reasons. Not sure but I think often attendance is tied to how much money the schools receive. It’s a big ole world out there outside of public education!
Genesis 2:17: "But of the tree of knowledge...thou shalt not eat", tells me everything I need to know about Christianity.
Foundation of our nation? Does this mean like Lot and his daughters?
That's right... A Bible in every class.... A copy of the ten commandments in the public arena... Because we're part of the public too and we demand our first amendment rights...
By using the word ‘too’ you imply you’re hunky dory with them also teaching Islam and Judaism and Buddhism and Hinduism.
What will teachers face if they refuse?
These people need to focus on children learning to read!!!😂😂😂
It’s like that “new math”.
I'd hand my students highlighters. Let them highlight the dirty parts.
Teach Leviticus 15. I dare them. Heck, teach all of Leviticus.
From the politicization of religion in the late 1970s and going back to the founding of this country, Baptists and other Protestants were firmly against mixing government and religion. Thomas Jefferson wrote to the leaders of the Danbury Baptists:
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
Definitely need four mandatory classes in all high schools:
comparative religions
taxes/debt/credit
your rights and responsibilities when dealing with the police
civics and how your state govt works
If you're right then the next best thing they would want is to upend the public schools in favor of charter schools.
I am a Christian! A real one! Jesus was not a politician! He had no interest in theocratic education other than teaching those who WANTED to learn about gods kingdom, the only government Jesus would approve of!
We already have a shortage of teachers in Oklahoma. This is likely to cause even a greater dip in them. Are they going to force corporal punishment on kids who don't want to study the Bible in school? What about non-Christians? Will they be forced out of public schooling? For a party of 'small government' they sure do stick their self-righteous noses into everyone's business.
I don't have any kids. But if I did, they would immediately be removed from school. I used to just consider myself atheist. But I've gone beyond that in the past couple years, and I now consider myself an anti-theist.
What is going to be their reaction when say Michigan wants to teach the Koran, or California decides scientology is the way and dianetics is the book being taught?
If it passes, then teachers should start purchasing copies of "Roots" for the classrooms.
One of the best ways to make them stop forcing you to teach people what's in the Bible is to teach people what's in the Bible.
Ironically*, these kids of performative acts of Faith are condemned by within Bible several times.
(*or not)
won't it still be several MONTHS at the very least with this in place?
I would teach the Bible like so: Given it has a mass of around 1kg, calculate the wind speed against the classroom door needed to overcome static friction when the Bible is placed next to it on the floor, propping the door open.
Ezekiel 23:19
It doesn’t take too much investigation into any religion (just as long as they are more interested in finding the truth than maintaining their belief) before the results start to shake anyone belief. This is especially true for any of the Abraham based religions.
I’m just a girl with my ecstasy and pills, don’t ask me any tough questions…
I heard this in a video on instagram. "What does the bible not inlcude?" Yt people. Imagine students researching and discovering this historical reference in the bible.
This is project 2025
The current evangelical church has lost its way so badly that as a follower of Christ, I no longer attend church. Was this what Jesus intended? I don’t think so.
The real Religious Perception and the beginnings of the End for the 1st Amendment. The Supreme's will rule in their favor. The favor is the key word as that is observedly false.
So they will teach about slavery in excruciating detail, right? The moral, ethical and historical impacts that still exist within the US today. CRT, yeah?
Lesson plans:
- the slave bibles
- the Jefferson bible
- Incest in the bible
- Genocide advocated in the bible
- Rape advocated in the bible
- Instructions for slavery in the bible
....the list goes on.
More of the abortion, more of the commandments, when does it end? Is this real life? How do they sit there makings stupid decisions, and then expect you to go die in a war. When they’re too scared to walk into a bar.
What till they get to Genesis 19:30-38. The Song of Solomon is a favorite, too.
Can you imagine if there were Scientologists on the school board and they made the kids read L. Ron Hubbard books. Your beliefs no matter how important they are to you might not fit the belief system of others. Might I suggest home schooling.
Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
When it comes to Louisiana's Ten Commandments, I've heard it described as not being about endorsing a religion, but rather about providing access, as while governments can't endorse a religion due to the establishment clause of the first amendment, there's nothing in there about not providing access to religious materials.
This is such a BS claim though. When did it become governments job to provide access to religion? Did we not have access before? Is access to religion (and specifically Christianity) being denied somehow? Isn't it up to local churches and other religious organizations to provide that access? These questions and more show exactly what they are thinking.
I'm not religious. I don't attend. My kids go to church. I don't think schools should teach it. Free time reading a kid wants to do fine. But also they push pride in Cali so I'd rather religion than make believe.
If I was a teacher in Oklahoma the only Bible I would allow in my classroom would be the true Bible written by Hong Xiuquan, brother of Jesus Christ and ruler of the Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace
Oh! So the Bible is history but not African American History!!? That's some BULL!!!
3:51 Oklahoma Gov Kevin Stitt has had a war on public schools since he was elected in 2018. He withheld covid relief money for public schools to make modifications to allow schools to go back to in-person classes, but then demanded that public schools have exclusively in-person classes or he'd withhold state funds from schools that didn't. Patents and private business owners put in time, materials and modified classrooms, sanitize at night, etc so children could safely return to school. It was disastrous 🥺 teachers got sick, kuds hot sick, parents got sick. Many died if covid. Oklahoma has the 2nd highest deaths from covid per capita in the nation. We lost a lot of dear people. Everyone knows at least one person who died. Gov Stitt has never let up his attack on public schools. He's de-credited online schools, too. Only a few still operate in Oklahoma. Oklahoma state legislators passed laws that give $7,500/student/school year to parents who wantbto send theur kids to private religious or charter schools. It's a racket. He won't be happy until the entire public school system is dismantled. He'll still be unhapoy, but he'll find something else to take its place if he ever succeeds. Fun fact: anyone can be a publuc school teacher if they taje a weekend seminar that the state government offers. 😖
So they won't each real history about black people, won't teach about reality regarding the treatment of native Americans, but somehow the bible is more important than reality?
I just don't understand why things like this are just allowed to happen. Like, somebody just shrugs and say yep it's happening. Nothing we can do about it. WTF?
11th Commandment:
Keep Thy Religion To Thyself.
What's interesting is that the god of Israel declared that the Jews were his chosen people. A god for a particular ethnic group.
It took a lawyer that allegedly had a "conversation" with the ghost of Jesus, where this lawyer took Christianity international.
Yet, another dam lawyer screwing it up for everyone!
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If only they could.
It's worth noting that Oklahoma is among the lowest ranks in education.
That won't be changing anytime soon.
The Annie E. Casey Foundation's annual Kids Count report ranks all 50 states with four categories: economic well-being, family and community, education and health. This report used data collected in 2022. Oklahoma's lowest ranking, coming in at 49th, was in education.
@@erykaton170 It's a race to the bottom for Red States now.
I keep trying point out the fact, if the republicans are so star spangled at governing. Why is every republican controlled states socioeconomic statistics in the toilet? Can never get an answer on that one.
That just makes it the model for other Red states as they try to destroy public education.
One of the reasons religion was so successful in the USA is precisely because it was not state sanctioned.
People don't get that.
@@BeauoftheFifthColumn oh, they will if they make it mandatory! 😁
@@BeauoftheFifthColumn I think it was Christopher Hitchens who said that the quickest way to make an atheist was to get them to read the Bible thoroughly.
So the Law of Unintended Consequences might apply. But this species of ideologues don't seem to be smart enough to understand these sorts of things.
@@missopowers Penn Jillette made the same observation, but specified to read the bible cover-to-cover the way you would a novel.
@@johnsteiner3417 unfortunately there are so many translations of it that you can from a 3rd grade reading level & up
The same politicians turned down federal aid for summer lunch programs for the same poor and working-class kids. Hipocrates in my books.
Are you saying that isn't what Jesus would do?? Shocking.
"Hypocrites." "Hippocrates" was a very different kind of guy. 😉
@@danieldickson8591 Yes, even Hippocrates would be appalled. "First, do no harm."
Lets create an edible bible, and make them provide it to the kids for lunch!!!!
Hypocrites in _their_ book, too.
Religion should be kept out of public schools, period. Yes, I said it and I’m a Christ follower.
Welcome! And thanks for speaking up 💜
So am I and I think that public schools are not qualified to teach the Bible. That is what Sunday school is for.
So am I and I think that public schools are not qualified to teach the Bible. That is what Sunday school is for.
Exactly as a Christian who went to public school for kindergarten through elementary school and private school for middle/high school the separation of church and state is paramount to a free society
I agree with that and keep the rests of you lgbtq and any other indoctrination bull shit out of there heads . Just let them be fuckin kids like the rest of us where
Want your kids to have religious instruction? Take them to church or mosque or synagogue. Easy. Simple.
I live in Oklahoma.
Undoubtedly this will be challenged in court.
Undoubtedly the money spent on the court case could have gone to our public schools.
Republicans; breaking government to prove the government is broken, since 1981 (at least).
As an Oklahoman, I can say we got the government we deserved by falling for governor Shit-for-brain's lied and tactics en masse.
@terrypetersen2970 Ya and it's going to be a hefty bill y'all OK taxpayers are gonna be stuck with. They will take this to the SC after they likely lose in state court. As you said alot of good money that could have actually improved OK schools. And where are the so called fiscal cons? They were saying "I can't wait to be sued, bring it on." He can't wait to waste Oklahoma tax payers hard earned money for his BS is what he should say.
That is how we constantly feel in Tennessee.
Actually, I want this ruling to go a different way. I want the court to require and equal amount of time given to teach about all the religions in the school, not just the Christian religion (which clearly the state can’t pick one religion over others). This would be the perfect ironic ruling to those Christian nuts that want their teachings in school. Just like when religious groups push for something in court, get it and Satanist get the exact same thing. The statue of the devil next to the 10 Commandments at the Arkansas Capital for the win
We spend more on incarceration than education.
It shows
Let's you know where the priorities are for the "common folk".
I’m glad to hear that the churches want to pay taxes finally.
It’s about time!
One of the sad things about religion is that faith often replaces common sense! It would be logical to improve the state’s math, science and reading curriculum, but I’m sure that “God” is telling them otherwise!
@@Leonaza7 ❤️❤️❤️
Our government cant even make rich people pay taxes. what makes you think they will make churches pay?
If Trump wants to give tax breaks to his rich friends he can more than offset that by taxing the churches. He could start with the one his spiritual advisor, Morris, just stepped down from after his SA of a 12 year old just came out. 😒
As a follower of Jesus, I don't want any government to tell me about religion
Right, it should be kept in the churches. Why do they want it in the schools?
What a waste of taxpayers' money. It's unconstitutional, period.
Until this corrupt SCOTUS declares otherwise. That is the race. To get a case in front of them so they can change precedent and decree it legal.
Gotta keep throwing it against the wall to see if it passes … little change in wording, throw it again, and again and again, till it works. And watch other states too, maybe they got it passed.
and Who decides what is taught to whom and when. We have so many different kinds of churches in this country precisely BECAUSE we can't agree on what the Bible actually means! Going to be a lot of money spent on lawyers if this happens.
Religion 🤮
Jesus , protect me from your followers .
They don't follow him, they worship money and evil.
Amen.
Hahaha 😂 ima use dat 🙌🏻
That made my day. 😂
Jesus: "They ain't mine!"
The Republican playbook is entirely about controlling you.
They want to control your gender, your sexual orientation, whether or not you can have children, where those children can go to school, what they are allowed to learn at school, whether they are allowed to get married, whether they are forced to serve in the military, whether they are allowed to choose their own profession, whether you are allowed to get a divorce, whether the law protects you, and eventually it is going to come down to whether or not you are a free citizen or not.
The gop have been planning this since the early 70's... They received the 'leader' they have been waiting for in trump.... They are ALL IN! This era today? Its huge! I had no kids, so..... Let Darwin do his job..
@@jasonwiedeman4825are you really that dense?
The idea that the Republican Party once claimed to be for small government and for law and order has become a joke at this point.
"The party of small government" 🙄
The Groupies of Putin are doing their best to turn the US into their Christo-Fascist dreamland.
How would having a gun on your hip prevent ANY of what was stated above?@@jasonwiedeman4825
Let's see what happens if just one teacher shows how the Bible was used to justify slavery
I'm thinking a few rogue teachers will do exactly that.
The defense I've heard was He didn't make slavery that was a human creation
The bible contains stories about incest, bestiality, prostitution, genital mutilation, fellatio, dildos, r_pe, and even infanticide. Clearly it should be banned if we are to believe their excuses for banning any other type of reading material.
@@coffeebux Nah, slaveowners used the Bible to justify themselves. I think there's even a few of the sermons addressed to slaves preserved (in addition to the plethora of self-soothing ones addressed to people-owners)
@@coffeebux "The defense I've heard was He didn't make slavery that was a human creation"
That defense is a lie, straight up. Even if someone argued that God didn't "create" slavery, which is weird because he created literally the whole universe from nothing, he still explicitly agrees with it. There's no "thou shalt not enslave" or "you shall stone to death everyone who owns a slave" in there, which he has no problem doing for other behaviors. But when he gets to slavery, he approves and provides a few rules and regulations.
Tax the revenues of churches & fund public education...
Amen 🙏
It's a win - win.
Woah, there, partner, you are making sense. Let's not be crazy now
Take the time and effort to find out why churches are "tax-free", instead of spouting off that nonsense about taxing the churches because you have a beef with religion. Actually, churches and any other non-profit institutions are not totally tax-free. There are several conditions under which non-profits(churches included) are required to pay taxes.
Tax ignorance to fund enlightenment? I like it!
"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil
But for good people to justify evil - that takes religion” -Steven Weinberg
Never forget that in the 16th century protestants committed genocide against women
underrated comment
@@castrinecubique983 agreed
Eh... technically it takes 'ideology'. You see it now with the quasi-religion of Unfettered Invisible Hand Capitalism that gets encouraged these days -- sometimes good (or at least passable-but-gullible) people _really, truly fall for it_ and try to emulate the behaviour of those who use it as a justification for evil they wanted to commit all along. If it wasn't a 'real' religion, the same fools would fall for a 'quasi-religion' ideology. Then again, many of them can hold one _actual_ religion and one cultural ideology at the same time, so actual religion gives an additional 'layer' of ideological justifications for evil. I just want to point out that it's not unique in that factor.
Religion was created to keep the poor from killing the rich.
Comstock Act anyone? Can't mail that bible, it contains obscene material.
Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Yeah, all those book banning commisions were awfully quick to make exceptions to obscene material for that one particular book they proclaim to enjoy.
Hypocrisy may know no bounds but it sure as hell knows the GOP
the bible is a banned book in schools in Utah.
I’m thinking that guy needs to get tuned up ?😊
kids should only be reading Our smut
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
Thank you.
A nice quote, but I'm fairly certain that Gandhi never said that.
@@musingjoke7061 sorry bud, but he did
January 11, 1927
"I like your Christ, but not your Christianity." In these words of Mahatma Gandhi, Dr. J.H. Holmes summed up the Indian leader's view of Christianity in a recent interview with a CRIMSON reporter. Dr. Holmes, professor of Philosophy at Swarthmore College and a member of the Society of Friends, has just completed a tour around the world, during which he spent some time in India. He had several opportunities of conversing with Gandhi. He was present at the meeting of the All-Indian Congress and had the honor of being the only westerner ever allowed to speak from their platform.
Continuing in Gandhi's words, Dr. Holmes said, "I believe in the teachings of Christ, but you on the other side of the world do not, I read the Bible faithfully and see little in Christendom that those who profess faith pretend to see.
"The Christians above all others are seeking after wealth. Their aim is to be rich at the expense of their neighbors. They come among aliens to exploit them for their own good and cheat them to do so. Their prosperity is far more essential to them than the life, liberty, and happiness of others.
"The Christians are the most warlike people.
From the Harvard Crimson Newspaper
@@musingjoke7061No, he may not have. But according to a Rev. Pattison, Gandhi did say "If it weren't for Christians, I'd be a Christian." According to Pattison Gandhi studied the Bible and Qu'ran and was impressed by the teachings of Jesus. He went to a church but was turned away because he was not a high cast Indian, nor Caucasian. He never tried again.
Whether Ghandi said this or not doesn't detract from the truth thereof in so many instances, e.g. most sadly, so many 'Christian' churches, as well as of course virtually the entire GOP.
They don't care about The Bible, they just want to waste our time.
They also want to wear you (collectively) down, make you stop caring about what they do.
Nothing makes people turn atheist faster than reading the Bible.
Did y'all know that there is a day in November that we as a collective society can choose who gets to govern for us or rule over us. Vote accordingly.
Oklahoma is SO Gerrymandered, Democrats can't win. At ALL. We had a primary the other day. Only Republicans had it because no Democrats are willing to waste thousands of dollars with no chance of winning.
Remember Remember the 5th of November (2024)!
Tax the churches, NOW.
🤣🤣🤣Good one
💯
Especially in TX where religion is a business.
@@saafewolf69 If one studies Religions they will find that they are quite fond of killing each other off as well as others. Biu the do exist so perhaps they are s necessary downside for our species
@@saafewolf69 I think they're all businesses everywhere.. businesses that pay no taxes yet clearly influence/lobby in politics.
Performative nonsense at its worst: "Oh, look what a great Christian I am!" Truly taking God's Name in vain.
As another commentsler said: They don't love Jesus, they love claiming that they're redeemed and whatever sins they have/are committing are forgiven.
The Sermon on the Mount stuff is woke garbage to Republicans.
Be not like the hypocrites. Prey in your closet.
Jesus would be a socialist if he was alive today
I have not responded, "yes" to the question, "Are you a Christian" in many years. Not because I do not believe in Jesus, but because I do not want to be associated in any way with those who have hijacked the name.
@@justanamerican9024 I still say "yes", but I quickly follow up with the info that I'm not like them at all. It is often warmly received.
Sounds a lot like something the Taliban would do
It is💀
You know, like the taliban, but christian.
Christian Taliban
The Talmud, the Bible, and the Quran are to a considerable degree the same book. Many of their passages are nearly identical, they share many of the same figures with similar stories. The teachings in all of them can be abused by extremists in comparable ways.
@@danieldickson8591 Which is why, in the Qu'ran, Muslims, Jews and Christians are referred to as People of the Book. One Muslim commentator likened Muslims, Jews and Christians as siblings loudly declaring Daddy loves us best!!!!!!
The key to understanding evangelical Republicans is understanding that Jesus is just the team mascot, not the coach.
Well said.
Jesus is neither these days. Both have been replaced by Trump. And their “tenets” as it were filtered from q boards on 4chan You get to see the genesis of a particularly stupid and strange religion.
Imagining a Jesus with the massive mascot head and one of those big “number 1” hands jumping about doing mascot things…. Bout lost my coffee 😂😂
Brilliant!
Ouch.
As a Pastafarian, I would love to open the door to theological discussions. Be careful what you wish for.
A colander on every desk! Legalize marinara!
Thy noodle come, Thy sauce be yum, on top some grated Parmesan. Give us this day, our garlic bread…and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trample on our lawns. And lead us not into vegetarianism, but deliver us some pizza, for thine is the meatball, the noodle, and the sauce, forever and ever. R'Amen.
EDIT: Thanks for all the responses! Now I wish I was smart and snarky (smarky?) enough to have written this myself. If you like this daily invocation be sure to check out the Pastafarian code of conduct, "The Eight I’d Really Rather You Didn’ts" which I also didn't write :) And remember, if you're truly a devout FSM follower you'll be in your priestly pirate garb today.
Bookmark Numbers 31:17-18 in all the books and see how quickly they pull them out of those classrooms.
Judges 1;19 teaches that Yahweh can't handle open-field mobile warfare.
Matthew 6;5-15 teaches that Yehoshua doesn't like virtue signaling or public displays of devotion.
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I have to admit I'm not familiar with that faith, I'm Catholic myself, but I'm all for Interfaith solidarity and religious diversity, and like I said in my other comment I'm for it. "If this was part of a curriculum on tolerance and appreciation of diversity, in this case religious diversity specifically, I'd be for it."
And while we are on diversity, teach more on Neurodiversity, I'm Autistic myself, and back when I was a kid we weren't taught about that at all.
Bibles, but no lunch. Hypocrites!!
The original Constitution of the United States that was ratified in 1789 had only ONE REFERENCE TO RELIGION: [Article 6] No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any Office or Public Trust under the United States.
The de facto motto of the United States, adopted as part of the Great Seal of the U.S. by an Act of Congress in 1782, was E. Pluribus Unum (Out of Many, One). Congress changed it 174 years later (1956) to "In God We Trust".
The ORIGINAL 'Pledge of Allegiance' was written in 1892 by Baptist Minister Francis Bellamy who DID NOT INCLUDE the words "Under God". Those were added by Congress 62 year later (1954).
The U.S. didn't issue Paper Currency until 1861, & 'In God We Trust' didn't appear on it for 96 years (1957).
“As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion" ~ Treaty of Tripoli; initiated under President George Washington, 1796, signed into law by President John Adams, 1797, ratified unanimously by the Senate, 1797, published in full in all 13 states, with no record of complaint or dissent.
"I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another."
--Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799
“Christianity neither is, nor ever was part of the common law.” Thomas Jefferson
“Religion and government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together.” James Madison
“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” John Adams
"In every country, in every age, the priest has always been hostile to liberty...He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection of his own."
Thomas Jefferson
Founding Father Thomas Paine on Christianity. “The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race, have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion…”
AMERICA WAS NOT FOUNDED ON "CHRISTIAN VALUES", IT WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A CHRISTIAN NATION, IT NEVER WILL BE A CHRISTIAN NATION. AMERICA IS A SECULAR COUNTRY. YOUR "FREEDUM OF RELIGION' ENDS WHERE MY CONSTITUTIONAL & BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS, LIBERTIES & PRIVLEGES BEGIN. DON'T LIKE IT, D!3 MAD ABOUT IT.
Only one reference to God, too: in the year of our Lord.
That was such an excellent summation! Seems like all the god crap was added during the red scare/McCarthy/anti-communism period. Just like all those Confederate statues and whatnot went up in response to desegregation. America will never be able to live up to its promises as long as 'these people' keep breeding and perpetuating their hate and ignorance and refusal to evolve.
This is an awesome post! One of the best I've read all year. 🥰😊
I hope you won't mind that I make a text file with this to share in the future.
Thank you for the best collection of statements from Founders and two presidents (who both died on July 4th 1826).
Damn, you're good! Love and light ✨️ 💛 💕
Have they actually read the Bible? Because there's a lot of things in it that directly contradict current Republican policies.
They don't care what's in the Bible. They only care about how they can use it to justify imposing conformity and obedience.
The Bible is such a massive book, they can (and of course would, and in other places do) just cherry-pick passages that align with their indoctrination goals. I received an academic education of the book from private institutions, and it really frustrates me how flagrant it is. Historical J.C. was a pretty cool guy, actually, but instead the so-called Christian nationalists just wield the Bible as a bludgeon to keep their followers in line.
There's also a lot of things in there that they would ban, in any other book. Sex, violence, incest, murder, bestiality, torture, pedophilia...
@@danieldickson8591As Gary Oldman's character in The Book of Eli said "it's not a book, its a weapon" and they want to turn that weapon on everyone not like them.
@@carsonm7292 : True. Jesus did not write his story. Nor did anyone who so much as met him once.
Our State Superintendent is beyond incompetent and cares more about politics than the education of our children. 😒🤬
That is really sad, but not surprising.
Dude looks like a 🐍, I get bad vibes from him everytime I see him talk.
If Christ came back and saw what's happening in Oklahoma, he'd rage against his followers on how they fight tooth and nail to get the ten commandments into classrooms, but end programs to give poor students free meals.
And then they'd label him a woke marxist communist fascist enemy of the people
That's because my state's government don't follow Jesus, they follow Republican Jesus.
If christ came back and went to the US he'd be deported, or pulled over by a cop and shot.
Yup. Love is a verb ❤