It's amazing to see the "tiny" Pany combo did a great job. It's absolutely amazing compact for the focal length it covers at F2.8 with image stabilization. For me the Pany won in this shootout.
Chris, you and Jordan consistently make the most watchable, interesting, and entertaining photography videos on RUclips. This one in particular was hilarious. Really enjoy the banter and the chemistry you two have together. Keep em coming with more of Jordan in front of the camera with you!
Great job guys.. I actually just picked up the Olympus 40-150mm f4-5.6 for $50 on Craigslist from someone who never used it. I am shocked with the shapness, its better than it is suppose to be..not 2.8 but for $50?
So really late to the party. I just picked up the Panasonic 35-100 f2.8 mkii for my Olympus e-m1mkiii. It's a great size and weight. Very sharp with fast focus. Plus cheaper than the Olympus.
Just stumbled onto this comparison, awesome video guys. I too was deciding between the two. Ultimately I ended up choosing the panny 35-100 due to more portable size. Paired with the oly 12-40, most versatile combo for travelling 😃
Hi, in 2024 i use my lumix lenses with my olympus em1x. I have the 12-35 f2.8 and 35-100 f2.8. Its a great compact lens set up if you do portraits or dont want to tote around a big boy lens like a ff 100-400. @nguyentrieuphuc4007
Great chemistry, even the scripted bits. Awesome job. As a video guy, I'd love to see more of Jordan, even if his hair isn't nearly as majestic. Sorry Jordan.
you didny mention that the Oly is a varifocal lens (compared to the Panny, where it loses focus as you zoom in or out). I'm switching the Oly (from my Panny) for this reason. I'll use to film dance recitals. On a tripod so no need to OIS.
Great choices. I've used the Panasonic 35-100 f 2.8 on an Olympus E-M1 and it is a great combo. The E-M1 handles beautifully. I look forward to using that 40-150mm.
I enjoy the videos...some people aren't meant to be on camera but you are. Anyway...I was looking into the 150 for the focal length, but then came across the 35-100. I ended up getting it versus the 150 because of its size. The main reason I got the micro 4/3 camera was because its size...not being able to take pro-gear into casual pro sporting events. SOOOOO that 35-100 is smaller than my hand and I've used it on 3 outings now...photos are pretty damn nice. Maybe some day I'll look the longer telephoto, but am pleased with my choice. thanks for the review.
I agree with how Jordan rapped it up at the end, the Pani 35/100 is more in line with what micro 4/3 systems are all about, small size, once you get into lenses the size of the 40/150, you start to question the portability factor, but the Olympus is a really nice lens, and it is still small compared to a full frame equivalent, but if I was to buy a micro 4/3 camera, for me it would be to get away from the size and weight of my full frame camera, so I would want to keep my lenses small, but like Jordan said, if 4/3 is your only system, then I could see getting the 40/150 lens, now that I think about it, I think Jordan made more good points than Chris in this video haha, but I find it funny that Jordan doesn't know how to use a camera for still photography, but no funnier than me not knowing to much on the video side, as far as a review goes, I think the two guy thing works well, you two are like the Siskel and Ebert of cameras
The Siskel and Ebert feel is exactly what we're going for, thanks for catching that! For the record, I do know how to work a still camera, Chris was just breaking balls because I shoot a lot more video than stills. Jordan @ TCSTV
Then don't get a longer focal length. Your argument doesn't hold the water as m4/3 system is always smaller than small format camera with same focal length. And the difference only grows when longer focal lengths comes in play with equivalent angle of view and light density. The smaller 35-100mm is 50mm shorter than 40-150mm and that brings the size difference, that is negligent between those two but looks different because other had hood and tripod collar.
photographerjonathan Once you factor in the compromise in DoF a smaller sensor incurs, you come to see the greater size and weight of the Olympus with a greater range as a compromise worth the while. Not to mention its delightful physical constriction.
I have started using the Pany 35-100mm on my G6 and it is great so far. That Olympus looks tasty as well; not much to choose between them. Mine has great sharpness and detail.
This is the best video you guys have ever done. The chemistry between you too is uncanny. Every video should feature you two having shootouts like this.
You guys are the best! This is the best video I've seen from you guys. Very funny!! I have the Panny 35-100mm and nothing can beat it! It's tiny and the contrast and colour rendition is off the charts!! If i wanted a lens as big as the 40-150mm i would just go full frame...
Love the banter! I'm with Jordan though - even though the Olly 40-150mm is smaller than an equivalent DSLR lens it still looks like a beast. Love the compact nature of the Panny G/GX series with the 35-100.
Great comparison guys, thanks! One other thing I would be curious to see compared is the effectiveness of the oly IBIS vs the panny OIS at longer focal lengths. I'm thinking the Lanny may have the advantage there. That said, the availability of a teleconverter for the Olympus is very appealing, provided the IBIS can keep up.
Great video, thanks ! Considering the price of the Olympus I was more hesitating between the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 40-150mm f/4-5.6 and the Panasonic 35-100mm F2.8 which one would you recommend ?
I can't believe that Chris said that stablisation only matters for video. I want a fast telephoto so I can take photos in darker indoor locations such as school halls. Even at f2.8, I often want to slow the shutter speed down, so stabilisation is very important.
simianinc I can't believe that either, as I didn't hear him say so. So I trust you that he said so. But the IBIS is extremely helpful on still photography, especially the Olympus 5 axis (that is superior to Sony) that makes beginners camera handling like they would have handled the camera for years. Beginners gets so much forgiven by their lacking skills handling the cameras because Olympus IBIS. And when you have skills to handle the camera correctly, the IBIS allows you to do amazing things. Like my record now is having at 150mm focal length totally sharp images with 6 second shutter speed... And that is without using any support by standing and success rate for that was about 40% (toke 5 shots and two were totally sharp). So when taking still photographs it is extremely helpful. Last time really needed that IBIS was being in museum that electricity was cut off so all lights were off. Flash not allowed so only way to get photos was handheld. ISO 800, shutter speed 1/1.3, 30-40mm and f/4, it was 100% success rate without any kind problems. Just pure joy to use camera and all shots were even taken from hip, using just the rear display. That is 7-8 stop effectiveness for IBIS, just pure bliss. I have only tested E-M5 II in store test room and while E-M1 IBIS is to same level, the E-M5 II IBIS wins in three things: 1) In video, as the IBIS keeps the video more still instead follow the small movements. 2) Macro photography, the very small and light shakes can be visible in macro but new IBIS gyro sensors sense that better. To make E-M1 IBIS as effective in macro, you need to shake the camera to get its gyros detect movement and keep it still :D. 3) Long exposures, the E-M5 II algorithm knows when the camera should be still and holds it still better. I will definitely upgrade to E-M1 successor once it hits stores as that IBIS for macro photography is just amazing. For long telephotos or long exposures there isn't such a problem. As often I have forgotten ND filters for long exposures for flowing water in daylight. So I need to use ISO Low and f/22 to get shutter speed to one second at longest and still get perfectly sharp photos (what the small diffraction problem allows). If I have the ND8 filter with me I get the required 2-4 second shutter speeds and yet handheld camera. And if wanted to get even better results for handheld indoor long exposures (like 1/2 second etc), set the IBIS disabled by half-pressing shutter, so it will get enabled only when releasing the shutter. As it does wonders when the sensor is centered when exposing it instead already moving when releasing shutter. Oh and almost forgot, Chris should know that what kind pleasure it is to use long telephoto objectives handheld when the viewfinder is stabilized and you are following a flying bird or jumping cars/bicycles etc.
I've owned the Panasonic version and have to say it was a fantastic litlle lens. That being said, I really think Olympus really should've given us a 35-100 f2. These two lenses are just too similar. The only diff being a small bit of focal range and size. One of these guys needs to give us an f2 zoom (or brighter). That's the only way they're going to solidify a reason to switch from other systems. Micro four thirds needs uber fast lenses. Not only for speed but also shallow depth of field which is the achilles tendon of m43. As for size, while it is a factor, I think there is way too much emphasis being put on this issue. I think we can afford some increase in lens size in return for ultra fast glass. Besides, regardless of the size, it'll always be 1/4 the size of full frame counterparts...
The Photo Soup The problem is that it would be the same lens but mich bigger and more expensive. There's already a DSLR four thirds 35-100 F2 and it's enormous so it's something you can already use on an EM1. This 40-150 f2.8 offers something a bit more different. Then again, their next pro zoom is the 7-14 f2.8 which is faster than the Panny 7-14 F4 or the old DSLR four thirds 7-14 f4. But after Olympus is done with those Pro zoom series, I think there's a need for some sort of mid-zoom category, better than kit zooms and not as pricey as the pro line. Some lens patents suggests Oly is going in that direction, along with hyperprimes (with AF hopefully).
Love this! Didnt know so much knowledge shared on camera lens. Just starting my interest in photography. So helpful having testimonials, filmed examples by experts.
Thanks. I was very helpful to see the size in action. The Oly isn't as big as it looks in the usual close-up demo. It all comes down to what do you need. This video is a rigged game. It's testing is mainly done with a walk in the woods shooting little birdies. If you were on the street where a mid-zoom range is your primary need, where you need to travel light and keep uptight, and where the more weapon-like your gear looks the more you change your interaction, perhaps the results would have been different.
That Olympus 40-150 mm f2.8 lens on an OM-D E-M1 makes me tingly. Plus, put the MC-14 teleconverter on it, and you can get a 420mm full frame equivalent at f4. That's a whole lot of lens. Now I just need the budget to buy it all.
Loved your video and the competition. Very interesting. I have a Panasonic and wanted the small light form factor so I went with the Panasonic. Both fab lenses though.
The extra reach of the Oly looks handy for wildlife, and that macro ability is lush. Though the sheer size is a little intimidating, especially as a backup zoom to be hauled around with an even bigger telephoto. And no stabilisation! Go for Panny, suck up the zoom cutoff, and pack an extension tube...?
Great comparison and saved me $1000. I was thinking of getting the Panasonic as a travel lens but the Olympus 40-150mm 3.5-5.6 kit, although slow, is a great little travel lens and I am going to stick to just getting the Olympus 2.8. Especially when I saw no advantage of the macro aspect. I see that in the specs but to really see it, that was amazing.
Jordan is right on that one, Chris, sorry ;-) If micro 4/3 is your primary system, then the 40-150 makes sense, but if you are using a DSLR system along, then the 35-100 is the logical choice.
I don't have the 40-150 here, but the 35-100 is a tough lens to beat, and if you don't mind picking up an extra lens such as a adapted 135mm or a R 40-150 from oly you will do ok if you have the pana for many things.
Still a good and relevant video thanks. As an Olympus User I I don't think I would ever buy the 40-150 it is just too big to carry around, balance with my OM 5 and makes you stand out as a target. I think the Panasonic is very tempting however! Good seeing them side by side in use to confirm it.
Thanks for another great review. Best TV on TV! Jordan has a point. The 35-100 wins the ease of carry test while the Oly wins the longer length contest. Coupled with the other pro offering from Panny or Oly all most folk need are 12-35 and a 35-100 and you are all set. Score one for Jordan! Chris has said its better to go wider than tele several times so in effect Chris agrees with Jordan!
Thanks for that shootout. I was wandering whether to buy the Lumix or the Zuiko. After a few seconds of it I was decided, the Zuiko ist huge, the panasonic is way smaller. The same goes for the weight. My decision for MFT is mainly based on size and weight of the systems components, and regarding that I can only choose the Lumix lens.
Another big reason to want OIS if you're a Lumix shooter is for portraits and events. The 35-100 is a terrific lens for those shooting situations and image stabilization can be really important. I would never buy a telephoto zoom lens for my GH3 that did not have optical image stabilization. As an aside, I'm in the camp that Jordan identified, those who shoot micro four thirds as an alternate, lighter system. My main system is a D800. I'm not interested in bulking up my MFT kit.
The Olympus 40-150mm F2.8 is a beauty! The construction, the range, the impressive retractable lens hood... Am I correct to assume that it wouldn't bid lens image stabilisation on a Panasonic Gx8 or GX85 body? That's the impression I got from watching the video.
Update: Some of the latest Panasonic camera bodies have stabilization (which is an equalizer for the Olympus lens) and DFD autofocus (which is an advantage for the Panasonic lens).
I gotta start saving for that 40-150. What a great lens. I wish I hadn't just bought an FZ1000. Actually I don't because it's a great camera and it gets me even more reach than the 40-150 :-) Great job guys and let's see the two of you on camera together more!
Thanks for the review. It would be helpful to know the focal lengths of each image you show because lens tend to have strong/weak focal length areas. Also, like so many youtube videos, the loud music is annoying/assaulting.
Great review guys! Question, maybe mostly to Jordan, who was using the 35-100. Several people have complained about micro jitter when shooting handheld with OIS on the 35-100. Is this something you have seen? I am trying to determine if it is an issue for all 35-100, or just some. If you click on my page, I have posted comparison videos between the 35-100 and several other lenses that clearly show the issue (at least on my copy). Thanks!!
I have to agree with Jordan. The size is a huge factor here. Beyond that, and I'm surprised to say this, the images from the Panny look better to my eyes. I'd chock that up to processing if it was the other way around, but I've always preferred the look of Olympus's images to Panasonic's. If you need the extra range... Well, then the Olympus is still a great option.
Perhaps an equally interesting comparison would be the new 40-150 vs the Oly 4/3 50-200. For travel/compactness, the Panny wins, no question. If I'm shooting wildlife or motorsports, I'm already making a decision to carry heavier weather-sealed gear with lots of reach, so paying several hundred dollars less for 50mm extra reach at a cost of 235g extra weight might be a very difficult tradeoff?
I own the Olympus 40-150mm f2.8, and it's really not that heavy. The biggest issue I have with it is fitting it into my bag. It's so good...you will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hand. What's even better is that I also have the MC-14 1.4x teleconverter, so I can extend it even further if I'm willing to drop to f4.
I'm choosing between the two for autofocus tracking on GH5 in video mode. I like the focus clutch in the Oly but a bit worried that it might not be as good as the Panny as it doesn't have DFD. What do you think?
Great review. Good to see that the little cameras are starting to deliver on their 'system' hype. Will be looking to see what you find with the new 7-14mm and 300/4. Still going by lenses/use first, then camera. It's probably opposite with video, where slick operation is more critical (not a video guy).
Hello, very nice video very informative and a good tutorial ! I own a PEN EP-5 so I guess I can use any of the 2 lenses ? I got it the Olympus is the best but I like to keep it light, so I can use the Panasonic ? Thank you !
Re stabilisation....the Pany GX7 and now GX8 (improved) have in body stabilisation therefore the Oly 40-150 pro lens will do job on them surely? Other Pany cameras it might be a different story. The retractable lens hood on the Oly lens is sweet.
Now that the GX85 has 5 axis in body stabilization, would The Camera Store guys now say Olympus Lenses are now preferable for video as they have hard manual stops? Or do you guys still prefer the dual stabilization option that Panasonic only lenses have. My thoughts is that perhaps the hard manual stops is more worth it.
I was all for the Panny, but the Macro on the Oly is fantastic! Man, this no IS on the GH4 is bugging me, i wonder if the GH5 will have some sort of 5-axis IBS
So big question is does the lens hood for the Olympus actually work? I hate carrying lens hoods and have been seen using my hand to block flare. If the lens hood has some purpose instead of just taking up space, I might actually use it instead of my hand.
You are the best, but why did you not use the same camera body it would be much easier to compare. For me the Olympus looks much better but i think its an illusion ;)
@@MarchalisVan I did not like it for the image it produced. Kept it for 3 mos. tried my best to get and image, landscape, that I felt it should produce. Now, cityscape might be completely different?!
@@MrFirstdance2000 Might be manufacturing variation? mine is among the sharpest lenses I have, which includes the olympus 25 F1.2 and the Sigma 56mm F1.4. not as sharp as the Sigma.. that's my sharpest lens :S Sample variation is real.
Question for you. Where would you tell me to go (research, school, online courses, college courses) if I am am an absolute beginner wanting to change careers to photography? First things first, I know absolutely nothing about cameras and how they work. The lingo is foreign to me. Knowing this, where shall I begin? Thanks for your input Kelly :)
I'd like to see how the new 40-150mm F2.8 stacks up against the older Olympus four thirds 50-200mm F2.8-3.5 SWD on the EM-1 using the adapter. I like the internal zoom of the 40-150 but the size doesn't appear to be much smaller than my 50-200. I assume focusing would be much faster but I like having an extra 50mm of reach and sharpness has never been an issue.
Brian Gibson The 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 SWD needs the 4/3-m4/3 adapter that makes it nasty thing to handle. But same time if you want same, you need that 1.4x teleconverter to 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO and it becomes 56-210mm f/4. So just negligent addition to magnification and 1/3 stops dimmer. With PRO you get way faster focusing but you are having as well that "nasty" adapter. But where you really get benefits, is when your subject isn't moving toward you and you don't need that C-AF but you can use S-AF. Then PRO wins SWD totally in focus speed. So think about it. 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 40-150mm f/2.8 or 56-210mm f/4
"I've got equally beautiful balls." (7:33) Hahahahahaha! Guys, in all seriousness, this was an EXCELLENT and entertaining video. I learned a lot. Thanks!
The Panasonic if you look carefully at 4:40 is a tad sharper than the Olympus. If you go like me backpacking through nature, you get sharper images without much weight, the choice is really simple for me which one to get.
Hi, I know this an older video but wanted to know if you can help me out with a question concerning the Panasonic 100-300mm lens. which lens is a sharper lens the Panasonic Lumix G Vario 100-300mm f/4-5.6 II POWER O.I.S. Lens which is the newest version or the older one? I'm planning to buy either version 1 or 2 but want to know if it's worth the almost $200 dollar difference when it comes to sharpness and speed to get focus. Thanks.
Panasonic is a good size and weight especially to bring a second specialized lens (like 12-35, or 100-300, or prime), or second whole camera on a trip and be far less over burdened.. also... one day you may need to go from an Olympus body to Panny, and the extra lens stable, is a nice bonus. But the Olympus is a f2.8 150mm which is kind of unique so, if that's something specific you need, that's what you get, regardless of weight and size.
Enjoyed yr comparison, it was a bit of but also informative. I'm considering the Olympus 45-150, for my panny GH5. What's yr opinion, would the size of the GH5 help balance out the weight of the Oly lens? Also that Oly lens comes with a 1.4 Tele converter. It have been nice to see that used too, also would that converter fit the gh5? (I'm dreaming). Or does Panasonic have a Tele converter for the 35/100? Cheers 🤠🎥👍
I agree that the bokeh is noticeably nicer on the Pany but overall I'd go for the Oly just for the reach. Jordan made an excellent point that if you are out of the larger format altogether then the Oly makes sense, whereas if you still have a Nikon or Canon then the form factor of the Pany makes more sense. I only have the Oly 4/3 system now so I'd absolutely go with the Oly 40-150 and the optional t/c that's available.
That bird landing on Jordan's finger was epic. 2:39
I think that proved beyond doubt who was the nicer host.
someone must hand feed birds in that area
It's amazing to see the "tiny" Pany combo did a great job. It's absolutely amazing compact for the focal length it covers at F2.8 with image stabilization. For me the Pany won in this shootout.
You should do this with the 12-35 2.8 und the 12-40 2.8
Yesss!!!!
Both brilliant lenses. I chose the Panasonic 35-100mm because of size plus dual IS on the G9. The only downside for me is the close focus distance.
Chris, you and Jordan consistently make the most watchable, interesting, and entertaining photography videos on RUclips. This one in particular was hilarious. Really enjoy the banter and the chemistry you two have together. Keep em coming with more of Jordan in front of the camera with you!
Great job guys.. I actually just picked up the Olympus 40-150mm f4-5.6 for $50 on Craigslist from someone who never used it. I am shocked with the shapness, its better than it is suppose to be..not 2.8 but for $50?
I think you're both great hosts. I wouldn't mind seeing you both again in another video.
2nd that
Almost 10 years of our magic photo review duo 😊
i feel like Jordan id gonna snap one day and just beat the shit out of chris haha
+paztheripper Stay tuned!
Jordan @ TCSTV
hahahahaha
So really late to the party. I just picked up the Panasonic 35-100 f2.8 mkii for my Olympus e-m1mkiii. It's a great size and weight. Very sharp with fast focus. Plus cheaper than the Olympus.
Great comparison guys. I think I'd go for the more compact Panasonic 35-100.
Just stumbled onto this comparison, awesome video guys. I too was deciding between the two. Ultimately I ended up choosing the panny 35-100 due to more portable size. Paired with the oly 12-40, most versatile combo for travelling 😃
Hi, do you still use this combo now? Can you give me some reviews?
Hi, in 2024 i use my lumix lenses with my olympus em1x. I have the 12-35 f2.8 and 35-100 f2.8. Its a great compact lens set up if you do portraits or dont want to tote around a big boy lens like a ff 100-400. @nguyentrieuphuc4007
Great chemistry, even the scripted bits. Awesome job. As a video guy, I'd love to see more of Jordan, even if his hair isn't nearly as majestic. Sorry Jordan.
you didny mention that the Oly is a varifocal lens (compared to the Panny, where it loses focus as you zoom in or out). I'm switching the Oly (from my Panny) for this reason. I'll use to film dance recitals. On a tripod so no need to OIS.
Can you get good stabilized videos and images using the Olympus 40-150mm on a Panasonic GH5?
Great choices. I've used the Panasonic 35-100 f 2.8 on an Olympus E-M1 and it is a great combo. The E-M1 handles beautifully. I look forward to using that 40-150mm.
I enjoy the videos...some people aren't meant to be on camera but you are. Anyway...I was looking into the 150 for the focal length, but then came across the 35-100. I ended up getting it versus the 150 because of its size. The main reason I got the micro 4/3 camera was because its size...not being able to take pro-gear into casual pro sporting events. SOOOOO that 35-100 is smaller than my hand and I've used it on 3 outings now...photos are pretty damn nice. Maybe some day I'll look the longer telephoto, but am pleased with my choice. thanks for the review.
I agree with how Jordan rapped it up at the end, the Pani 35/100 is more in line with what micro 4/3 systems are all about, small size, once you get into lenses the size of the 40/150, you start to question the portability factor, but the Olympus is a really nice lens, and it is still small compared to a full frame equivalent, but if I was to buy a micro 4/3 camera, for me it would be to get away from the size and weight of my full frame camera, so I would want to keep my lenses small, but like Jordan said, if 4/3 is your only system, then I could see getting the 40/150 lens, now that I think about it, I think Jordan made more good points than Chris in this video haha, but I find it funny that Jordan doesn't know how to use a camera for still photography, but no funnier than me not knowing to much on the video side, as far as a review goes, I think the two guy thing works well, you two are like the Siskel and Ebert of cameras
The Siskel and Ebert feel is exactly what we're going for, thanks for catching that! For the record, I do know how to work a still camera, Chris was just breaking balls because I shoot a lot more video than stills.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Then don't get a longer focal length. Your argument doesn't hold the water as m4/3 system is always smaller than small format camera with same focal length. And the difference only grows when longer focal lengths comes in play with equivalent angle of view and light density.
The smaller 35-100mm is 50mm shorter than 40-150mm and that brings the size difference, that is negligent between those two but looks different because other had hood and tripod collar.
photographerjonathan Once you factor in the compromise in DoF a smaller sensor incurs, you come to see the greater size and weight of the Olympus with a greater range as a compromise worth the while. Not to mention its delightful physical constriction.
As someone from a stills background moving onto video, TCS has become so much more relevant with Jordan around more! Favorite RUclips channel by far.
I have started using the Pany 35-100mm on my G6 and it is great so far. That Olympus looks tasty as well; not much to choose between them. Mine has great sharpness and detail.
Come on boys just kiss,the tension is even getting to me.
Nice job again.
This is the best video you guys have ever done. The chemistry between you too is uncanny. Every video should feature you two having shootouts like this.
You guys are the best! This is the best video I've seen from you guys. Very funny!! I have the Panny 35-100mm and nothing can beat it! It's tiny and the contrast and colour rendition is off the charts!! If i wanted a lens as big as the 40-150mm i would just go full frame...
With the optional M.Zuiko Digital MC-14 1.4x Teleconverter the lens can further extend the reach to a 112-420mm.
Love the banter! I'm with Jordan though - even though the Olly 40-150mm is smaller than an equivalent DSLR lens it still looks like a beast. Love the compact nature of the Panny G/GX series with the 35-100.
"Pictures are weird" -Jordan
Fantastic comparison!
Great comparison guys, thanks! One other thing I would be curious to see compared is the effectiveness of the oly IBIS vs the panny OIS at longer focal lengths. I'm thinking the Lanny may have the advantage there. That said, the availability of a teleconverter for the Olympus is very appealing, provided the IBIS can keep up.
*Panny
Great video, thanks ! Considering the price of the Olympus I was more hesitating between the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 40-150mm f/4-5.6 and the Panasonic 35-100mm F2.8 which one would you recommend ?
I can't believe that Chris said that stablisation only matters for video. I want a fast telephoto so I can take photos in darker indoor locations such as school halls. Even at f2.8, I often want to slow the shutter speed down, so stabilisation is very important.
simianinc I can't believe that either, as I didn't hear him say so. So I trust you that he said so. But the IBIS is extremely helpful on still photography, especially the Olympus 5 axis (that is superior to Sony) that makes beginners camera handling like they would have handled the camera for years. Beginners gets so much forgiven by their lacking skills handling the cameras because Olympus IBIS. And when you have skills to handle the camera correctly, the IBIS allows you to do amazing things. Like my record now is having at 150mm focal length totally sharp images with 6 second shutter speed... And that is without using any support by standing and success rate for that was about 40% (toke 5 shots and two were totally sharp).
So when taking still photographs it is extremely helpful. Last time really needed that IBIS was being in museum that electricity was cut off so all lights were off. Flash not allowed so only way to get photos was handheld. ISO 800, shutter speed 1/1.3, 30-40mm and f/4, it was 100% success rate without any kind problems. Just pure joy to use camera and all shots were even taken from hip, using just the rear display. That is 7-8 stop effectiveness for IBIS, just pure bliss.
I have only tested E-M5 II in store test room and while E-M1 IBIS is to same level, the E-M5 II IBIS wins in three things: 1) In video, as the IBIS keeps the video more still instead follow the small movements. 2) Macro photography, the very small and light shakes can be visible in macro but new IBIS gyro sensors sense that better. To make E-M1 IBIS as effective in macro, you need to shake the camera to get its gyros detect movement and keep it still :D. 3) Long exposures, the E-M5 II algorithm knows when the camera should be still and holds it still better.
I will definitely upgrade to E-M1 successor once it hits stores as that IBIS for macro photography is just amazing.
For long telephotos or long exposures there isn't such a problem. As often I have forgotten ND filters for long exposures for flowing water in daylight. So I need to use ISO Low and f/22 to get shutter speed to one second at longest and still get perfectly sharp photos (what the small diffraction problem allows). If I have the ND8 filter with me I get the required 2-4 second shutter speeds and yet handheld camera.
And if wanted to get even better results for handheld indoor long exposures (like 1/2 second etc), set the IBIS disabled by half-pressing shutter, so it will get enabled only when releasing the shutter. As it does wonders when the sensor is centered when exposing it instead already moving when releasing shutter.
Oh and almost forgot, Chris should know that what kind pleasure it is to use long telephoto objectives handheld when the viewfinder is stabilized and you are following a flying bird or jumping cars/bicycles etc.
+paristo At around 11:08...
Do a video one and do birds usually go on peoples hands like that? id like to know what park that is?
Someone doesn't know how to hold a reflector still.
came here to say this.
I've owned the Panasonic version and have to say it was a fantastic litlle lens. That being said, I really think Olympus really should've given us a 35-100 f2. These two lenses are just too similar. The only diff being a small bit of focal range and size. One of these guys needs to give us an f2 zoom (or brighter). That's the only way they're going to solidify a reason to switch from other systems. Micro four thirds needs uber fast lenses. Not only for speed but also shallow depth of field which is the achilles tendon of m43. As for size, while it is a factor, I think there is way too much emphasis being put on this issue. I think we can afford some increase in lens size in return for ultra fast glass. Besides, regardless of the size, it'll always be 1/4 the size of full frame counterparts...
The Photo Soup The problem is that it would be the same lens but mich bigger and more expensive. There's already a DSLR four thirds 35-100 F2 and it's enormous so it's something you can already use on an EM1. This 40-150 f2.8 offers something a bit more different.
Then again, their next pro zoom is the 7-14 f2.8 which is faster than the Panny 7-14 F4 or the old DSLR four thirds 7-14 f4. But after Olympus is done with those Pro zoom series, I think there's a need for some sort of mid-zoom category, better than kit zooms and not as pricey as the pro line. Some lens patents suggests Oly is going in that direction, along with hyperprimes (with AF hopefully).
Olympus 40-150mm F2.8 vs. Panasonic 35-100mm F2.8 Shootout
Lumix Camera's Rock. Is started with a Lumix
then went to Nikon, I still think Lumix is better.
Love this! Didnt know so much knowledge shared on camera lens. Just starting my interest in photography. So helpful having testimonials, filmed examples by experts.
Thanks. I was very helpful to see the size in action. The Oly isn't as big as it looks in the usual close-up demo. It all comes down to what do you need. This video is a rigged game. It's testing is mainly done with a walk in the woods shooting little birdies. If you were on the street where a mid-zoom range is your primary need, where you need to travel light and keep uptight, and where the more weapon-like your gear looks the more you change your interaction, perhaps the results would have been different.
This video is fun to watch and with some serious conclusions to be drawn.
Great stuff, guys!
That Olympus 40-150 mm f2.8 lens on an OM-D E-M1 makes me tingly. Plus, put the MC-14 teleconverter on it, and you can get a 420mm full frame equivalent at f4. That's a whole lot of lens. Now I just need the budget to buy it all.
Update: I did buy it all, including the teleconverter, and now you will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hand if you ever want me to give it up.
@@danieldougan8613 Now how to eat with both hands occupied ;-)
Loved your video and the competition. Very interesting. I have a Panasonic and wanted the small light form factor so I went with the Panasonic. Both fab lenses though.
The extra reach of the Oly looks handy for wildlife, and that macro ability is lush. Though the sheer size is a little intimidating, especially as a backup zoom to be hauled around with an even bigger telephoto. And no stabilisation! Go for Panny, suck up the zoom cutoff, and pack an extension tube...?
great video, changed to MFT couple of months ago have an EM1 and GX8 just got the 40-150 2.8, best lens I've owned absolutely brilliant
Great comparison and saved me $1000. I was thinking of getting the Panasonic as a travel lens but the Olympus 40-150mm 3.5-5.6 kit, although slow, is a great little travel lens and I am going to stick to just getting the Olympus 2.8. Especially when I saw no advantage of the macro aspect. I see that in the specs but to really see it, that was amazing.
I want both. You guys should definitely do more shootouts between Chris and Jordan! Also, 11:50. FLUFFY DOG!
Jordan is right on that one, Chris, sorry ;-)
If micro 4/3 is your primary system, then the 40-150 makes sense, but if you are using a DSLR system along, then the 35-100 is the logical choice.
I don't have the 40-150 here, but the 35-100 is a tough lens to beat, and if you don't mind picking up an extra lens such as a adapted 135mm or a R 40-150 from oly you will do ok if you have the pana for many things.
Great comparison guys. It's nice to have a choice, and it's equally nice to know that either way we choose, we can expect a high performance lens.
Great comparison and video. I know this is from along time ago but Jordan should compare both lenses for video.
Thank you.
Still a good and relevant video thanks. As an Olympus User I I don't think I would ever buy the 40-150 it is just too big to carry around, balance with my OM 5 and makes you stand out as a target. I think the Panasonic is very tempting however! Good seeing them side by side in use to confirm it.
Thanks for another great review. Best TV on TV! Jordan has a point. The 35-100 wins the ease of carry test while the Oly wins the longer length contest. Coupled with the other pro offering from Panny or Oly all most folk need are 12-35 and a 35-100 and you are all set. Score one for Jordan! Chris has said its better to go wider than tele several times so in effect Chris agrees with Jordan!
Thanks for that shootout. I was wandering whether to buy the Lumix or the Zuiko. After a few seconds of it I was decided, the Zuiko ist huge, the panasonic is way smaller. The same goes for the weight. My decision for MFT is mainly based on size and weight of the systems components, and regarding that I can only choose the Lumix lens.
Another big reason to want OIS if you're a Lumix shooter is for portraits and events. The 35-100 is a terrific lens for those shooting situations and image stabilization can be really important. I would never buy a telephoto zoom lens for my GH3 that did not have optical image stabilization.
As an aside, I'm in the camp that Jordan identified, those who shoot micro four thirds as an alternate, lighter system. My main system is a D800. I'm not interested in bulking up my MFT kit.
The Olympus 40-150mm F2.8 is a beauty! The construction, the range, the impressive retractable lens hood...
Am I correct to assume that it wouldn't bid lens image stabilisation on a Panasonic Gx8 or GX85 body? That's the impression I got from watching the video.
Now that the Panasonic model will get updated, I wonder if the optic has changed.
"I'm a paragon of strength and manliness." That's confidence! :)
The Serial Hobbyist Girl easy to fake...haha😂
Update: Some of the latest Panasonic camera bodies have stabilization (which is an equalizer for the Olympus lens) and DFD autofocus (which is an advantage for the Panasonic lens).
Excellent review, guys! For me it is trivial, and perhaps a bit biased, to choose the M.Zuiko 40-150mm f/2.8 Pro because it is weatherized.
Nice and funny video. But what happened with the lighting? Looks like a unsteady reflector???
It turns out Camera Reps aren't the best assistants.
Jordan @ TCSTV
I gotta start saving for that 40-150. What a great lens. I wish I hadn't just bought an FZ1000. Actually I don't because it's a great camera and it gets me even more reach than the 40-150 :-)
Great job guys and let's see the two of you on camera together more!
Thanks for the review. It would be helpful to know the focal lengths of each image you show because lens tend to have strong/weak focal length areas. Also, like so many youtube videos, the loud music is annoying/assaulting.
Thanks for the video! It’s so informative and fun to watch!
wait wait wait... when did jordan turn into snow white?! i know hes in snowy canada.. but.. birds just LOVE him?! lol
Keep the reviews and shootouts coming;
sounds like the first and last Chris/Jordan shootout ;)
No, we had a lot of fun! You can look forward to more Jordan/Chris episodes soon.
Jordan @ TCSTV
TheCameraStoreTV Was not doubting that one time!
Great review guys! Question, maybe mostly to Jordan, who was using the 35-100. Several people have complained about micro jitter when shooting handheld with OIS on the 35-100. Is this something you have seen? I am trying to determine if it is an issue for all 35-100, or just some. If you click on my page, I have posted comparison videos between the 35-100 and several other lenses that clearly show the issue (at least on my copy). Thanks!!
I have to agree with Jordan. The size is a huge factor here. Beyond that, and I'm surprised to say this, the images from the Panny look better to my eyes. I'd chock that up to processing if it was the other way around, but I've always preferred the look of Olympus's images to Panasonic's. If you need the extra range... Well, then the Olympus is still a great option.
The dual host is very entertaining way to present comparisons. Good Job!
Perhaps an equally interesting comparison would be the new 40-150 vs the Oly 4/3 50-200.
For travel/compactness, the Panny wins, no question. If I'm shooting wildlife or motorsports, I'm already making a decision to carry heavier weather-sealed gear with lots of reach, so paying several hundred dollars less for 50mm extra reach at a cost of 235g extra weight might be a very difficult tradeoff?
I own the Olympus 40-150mm f2.8, and it's really not that heavy. The biggest issue I have with it is fitting it into my bag. It's so good...you will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hand. What's even better is that I also have the MC-14 1.4x teleconverter, so I can extend it even further if I'm willing to drop to f4.
Thank you for doing this comparison. I'm impressed with both these lenses. It is going to be a hard choice for me. Gerry
Weight, size and dual I.s. plus the better contrast wins it for me. I can throw the panny on a zhiyun crane too.
I am buying the mark 2 soon.
"Norman Rockwell moment" - The bantering is strong in this video, and jolly entertaining it is. :-)
Looking at this now again I'm so happy to have my 40-150mm Oly and get the GH5 asap it comes out :D
I'm choosing between the two for autofocus tracking on GH5 in video mode. I like the focus clutch in the Oly but a bit worried that it might not be as good as the Panny as it doesn't have DFD. What do you think?
def the best videos Ive seen. Literally answered all my questions in a professional, entertaining way. Def olympus for my gh5!!
Great review.
Good to see that the little cameras are starting to deliver on their 'system' hype. Will be looking to see what you find with the new 7-14mm and 300/4.
Still going by lenses/use first, then camera. It's probably opposite with video, where slick operation is more critical (not a video guy).
Hello, very nice video very informative and a good tutorial ! I own a PEN EP-5 so I guess I can use any of the 2 lenses ? I got it the Olympus is the best but I like to keep it light, so I can use the Panasonic ? Thank you !
Re stabilisation....the Pany GX7 and now GX8 (improved) have in body stabilisation therefore the Oly 40-150 pro lens will do job on them surely? Other Pany cameras it might be a different story. The retractable lens hood on the Oly lens is sweet.
cool chemistry!
How does the 35-100 compare to the canon 70-200 in full frame?
Now that the GX85 has 5 axis in body stabilization, would The Camera Store guys now say Olympus Lenses are now preferable for video as they have hard manual stops? Or do you guys still prefer the dual stabilization option that Panasonic only lenses have. My thoughts is that perhaps the hard manual stops is more worth it.
I was all for the Panny, but the Macro on the Oly is fantastic! Man, this no IS on the GH4 is bugging me, i wonder if the GH5 will have some sort of 5-axis IBS
Will you guys be taking a look at the Fuji 50-140 2.8 when it releases?
So big question is does the lens hood for the Olympus actually work? I hate carrying lens hoods and have been seen using my hand to block flare. If the lens hood has some purpose instead of just taking up space, I might actually use it instead of my hand.
You are the best, but why did you not use the same camera body it would be much easier to compare. For me the Olympus looks much better but i think its an illusion ;)
How about a video comparison of these two lenses too?
Try carrying around 7D mark II with Tamron 150-600 mm I did for a while until I developed tendinitis
Six years later, the 40-150 still looks fantastic !
8-9 years later, the 35-100 still looks fantastic !
@@MarchalisVan I did not like it for the image it produced. Kept it for 3 mos. tried my best to get and image, landscape, that I felt it should produce. Now, cityscape might be completely different?!
@@MrFirstdance2000 Might be manufacturing variation? mine is among the sharpest lenses I have, which includes the olympus 25 F1.2 and the Sigma 56mm F1.4. not as sharp as the Sigma.. that's my sharpest lens :S Sample variation is real.
Question for you. Where would you tell me to go (research, school, online courses, college courses) if I am am an absolute beginner wanting to change careers to photography? First things first, I know absolutely nothing about cameras and how they work. The lingo is foreign to me. Knowing this, where shall I begin? Thanks for your input Kelly :)
I'd like to see how the new 40-150mm F2.8 stacks up against the older Olympus four thirds 50-200mm F2.8-3.5 SWD on the EM-1 using the adapter. I like the internal zoom of the 40-150 but the size doesn't appear to be much smaller than my 50-200. I assume focusing would be much faster but I like having an extra 50mm of reach and sharpness has never been an issue.
Brian Gibson The 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 SWD needs the 4/3-m4/3 adapter that makes it nasty thing to handle. But same time if you want same, you need that 1.4x teleconverter to 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO and it becomes 56-210mm f/4. So just negligent addition to magnification and 1/3 stops dimmer. With PRO you get way faster focusing but you are having as well that "nasty" adapter.
But where you really get benefits, is when your subject isn't moving toward you and you don't need that C-AF but you can use S-AF. Then PRO wins SWD totally in focus speed.
So think about it.
50-200mm f/2.8-3.5
40-150mm f/2.8 or 56-210mm f/4
Should've had a lens hood on that Panasonic zoom. Without it, you can introduce a lot of flare in your shots.
is there a video that covers the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 300mm f/4 IS PRO Lens from these guys?
this old version of Panasonic 35-100mm is not weather seal, the second version which came out this year is.
I must ask you, the M1 in comparison to the M5 mk2, which do you prefer? and why?
"I've got equally beautiful balls." (7:33) Hahahahahaha! Guys, in all seriousness, this was an EXCELLENT and entertaining video. I learned a lot. Thanks!
The Panasonic if you look carefully at 4:40 is a tad sharper than the Olympus. If you go like me backpacking through nature, you get sharper images without much weight, the choice is really simple for me which one to get.
DeFietsreiziger if you really look and are honest its not sharper than the olympus ...
My favourite of your videos. Informative and fun.
Hi, I know this an older video but wanted to know if you can help me out with a question concerning the Panasonic 100-300mm lens. which lens is a sharper lens the Panasonic Lumix G Vario 100-300mm f/4-5.6 II POWER O.I.S. Lens which is the newest version or the older one? I'm planning to buy either version 1 or 2 but want to know if it's worth the almost $200 dollar difference when it comes to sharpness and speed to get focus. Thanks.
What is the focus throw (closest focus to infinity) in manual-clutch for the Olympus 40-150 in video mode?
Panasonic is a good size and weight especially to bring a second specialized lens (like 12-35, or 100-300, or prime), or second whole camera on a trip and be far less over burdened.. also... one day you may need to go from an Olympus body to Panny, and the extra lens stable, is a nice bonus. But the Olympus is a f2.8 150mm which is kind of unique so, if that's something specific you need, that's what you get, regardless of weight and size.
Enjoyed yr comparison, it was a bit of but also informative. I'm considering the Olympus 45-150, for my panny GH5. What's yr opinion, would the size of the GH5 help balance out the weight of the Oly lens? Also that Oly lens comes with a 1.4 Tele converter. It have been nice to see that used too, also would that converter fit the gh5? (I'm dreaming). Or does Panasonic have a Tele converter for the 35/100? Cheers 🤠🎥👍
kai would be displeased to hear you talk of bokeh and focal length. Bokeh is quality not shallowness and the panasonic wins the bokeh test for me.
Me too.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Hear hear. The Panasonic balls win hands down in this test
I agree that the bokeh is noticeably nicer on the Pany but overall I'd go for the Oly just for the reach. Jordan made an excellent point that if you are out of the larger format altogether then the Oly makes sense, whereas if you still have a Nikon or Canon then the form factor of the Pany makes more sense. I only have the Oly 4/3 system now so I'd absolutely go with the Oly 40-150 and the optional t/c that's available.
The one holds Pana is taller. Then they have different angle to shoot the bokeh. That makes the pana looks better (more light circles)
The balls of the oly are nicier to me, because consistent. The balls on the side of the pana gets moon shaped.
Hi TCS,
I'm new to this, could the close focusing difference be the result of parfocal design of the panasonic lens? Is olympus lens parfocal?
Thanks!
that was way funny guys!
So if i understood well, you could use either lenses in any micro 4/3 bodies and work very well right?
I want to invest in the 40-150 for shooting video of professional sports VIDEO on GH5S, but I'm concerned about video stability. Thoughts?