The front footwell flanges should be pointing outward facing the engine bay not facing toward the interior of the car that's why the floor pans are a 1inch long I hope this helps cheers mark keep up the good work
Yes, and no... It is my understanding that the early cars had the flange facing out to the wheel well, the later cars had it facing inward. I believe it was a water in the seem issue (rust) issue that caused the change. Not sure when though. But yes, this is why the floor is longer.
Thanks for the comment Mark... As Graham John mentions there was a change. Based on this nicely documented TR2 restoration by John on the British Car Forum (www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/beginning-the-tr2-bodywork.102796/page-11), at least the early cars had the firewall extending the flange inwards to support the front of the floor. Perhaps the change over was post TS60000. This '59 was pre-60K FWIW. This is my first Triumph so I am not expert. Cheers, Mike
Mike, fantastic video as always. I have heard that replacement inner sills may have a problem with the height at which the outrigger mounts are welded, so check that. On my tub, I have 3 layers of steel at the rear of the floor where you have created new panels. Also, where the rear of the floor meets your replacement panel, about an inch or so inside of the tunnel, my car has a slice in the "replacement panel". I believe that the floor panel sits on top of the tunnel flange, then slips under the front edge of the replacement panel through the slice. Just some things to investigate.
1) Thanks for the heads up on the replacement inner sill I'll take a look at that more carefully. 2) hmmm, a triple steel sandwich... the floor, the replacement panel overlapping it, and ??? That area was definitely in rough shape when I disassembled and I see no sign of triple-ness on the left side. 3) I'm trying to envision your description. After the video yesterday I trimmed up the rear some, and I currently have the floor flange sliding beneath the replacement steel and above the tunnel flange. Are you saying that it goes under the panel, through a cut in the tunnel flange and mounts below? Much obliged for the clarification and information Graham...
I found a good photo of a donor TR3 in John's restoration. I see that the rear replacement panel is actually two panels, one square and one hugging the tire tub. I obviously, made it one piece. Could the triple be from overlap of the trailing floor flange and these two pieces? www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/beginning-the-tr2-bodywork.102796/page-14 The photos are about half way through the thread. p.s. his donor car is in better shape than mine 😄
@@mikeg5877 yes, I was struggling to describe the cut. You can just see it in one of John's pictures. The floor panel sits on top of the tunnel flange, but sits under the rear panel. The rear panel also sits on top of the tunnel flange. So to transition from on top to underneath, the rear inch or so of the floor panel passes through a slit in the rear panel. the tunnel is fixed in place, the rear panel sits on the tunnel flange, the floor panel sits on top of the tunnel flange, and for the last inch or so, sits on top of the rear panel as well. Now the floor panel needs to get underneath the rear panel. About an inch or two in from the tunnel (to clear the tunnel flange), there is a slit in the rear panel that allows about 95% of the width of the floor panel to sit under the rear panel, and 5% of the floor panel to remain on top of the rear panel and the tunnel flange.
@@mikeg5877 Mike, the three pieces may have been: the rear of the floor; the rear piece that you have just made; and the flange of the curved vertical piece that you also made. And yes, your rear piece is two pieces on my car.
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The front footwell flanges should be pointing outward facing the engine bay not facing toward the interior of the car that's why the floor pans are a 1inch long I hope this helps cheers mark keep up the good work
Yes, and no... It is my understanding that the early cars had the flange facing out to the wheel well, the later cars had it facing inward. I believe it was a water in the seem issue (rust) issue that caused the change. Not sure when though. But yes, this is why the floor is longer.
Thanks for the comment Mark... As Graham John mentions there was a change. Based on this nicely documented TR2 restoration by John on the British Car Forum (www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/beginning-the-tr2-bodywork.102796/page-11), at least the early cars had the firewall extending the flange inwards to support the front of the floor. Perhaps the change over was post TS60000. This '59 was pre-60K FWIW. This is my first Triumph so I am not expert. Cheers, Mike
@@mikeg5877 I think the change was very early. I believe my TR2 TS7831 had the flange facing inward. The flange facing outward was before that.
Mike, fantastic video as always. I have heard that replacement inner sills may have a problem with the height at which the outrigger mounts are welded, so check that. On my tub, I have 3 layers of steel at the rear of the floor where you have created new panels. Also, where the rear of the floor meets your replacement panel, about an inch or so inside of the tunnel, my car has a slice in the "replacement panel". I believe that the floor panel sits on top of the tunnel flange, then slips under the front edge of the replacement panel through the slice. Just some things to investigate.
1) Thanks for the heads up on the replacement inner sill I'll take a look at that more carefully.
2) hmmm, a triple steel sandwich... the floor, the replacement panel overlapping it, and ??? That area was definitely in rough shape when I disassembled and I see no sign of triple-ness on the left side.
3) I'm trying to envision your description. After the video yesterday I trimmed up the rear some, and I currently have the floor flange sliding beneath the replacement steel and above the tunnel flange. Are you saying that it goes under the panel, through a cut in the tunnel flange and mounts below?
Much obliged for the clarification and information Graham...
I found a good photo of a donor TR3 in John's restoration. I see that the rear replacement panel is actually two panels, one square and one hugging the tire tub. I obviously, made it one piece. Could the triple be from overlap of the trailing floor flange and these two pieces?
www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/beginning-the-tr2-bodywork.102796/page-14
The photos are about half way through the thread.
p.s. his donor car is in better shape than mine 😄
@@mikeg5877 yes, I was struggling to describe the cut. You can just see it in one of John's pictures. The floor panel sits on top of the tunnel flange, but sits under the rear panel. The rear panel also sits on top of the tunnel flange. So to transition from on top to underneath, the rear inch or so of the floor panel passes through a slit in the rear panel. the tunnel is fixed in place, the rear panel sits on the tunnel flange, the floor panel sits on top of the tunnel flange, and for the last inch or so, sits on top of the rear panel as well. Now the floor panel needs to get underneath the rear panel. About an inch or two in from the tunnel (to clear the tunnel flange), there is a slit in the rear panel that allows about 95% of the width of the floor panel to sit under the rear panel, and 5% of the floor panel to remain on top of the rear panel and the tunnel flange.
@@mikeg5877 Mike, the three pieces may have been: the rear of the floor; the rear piece that you have just made; and the flange of the curved vertical piece that you also made. And yes, your rear piece is two pieces on my car.
@@grahamjohn331 I'll need to read this again in the morning when I've sobered up ;-)