2 Tiger Is vs 17 IS-2s: Tank Battle at Malinava | Otto Carius Storms the Village!
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- Опубликовано: 11 фев 2022
- The 502nd Heavy Panzer Battalion, was one of Germany's most successful heavy tank battalions during the Second World War, claiming the destruction of 1,400 tanks and 2,000 guns.
Otto Carius was one of the most distinguished, and probably the most well-known Heer Tiger commanders of the war.
He served with the 502nd 2nd Company, from mid-1943 until he was severely wounded in mid-1944.
The 2nd Company, which was equipped with new Tiger tanks, took part in a number of operations on the Eastern Front.
One of the more notable of these was at the village of Malinava, near Doonaburg, Southern Latvia, on 22nd of July 1944.
In his book "Tigers in the Mud" Panzer Ace Otto Carius, explains how he restored the front in southern Latvia with his company of eight Tiger tanks.
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I can imagine all the incredible battle stories from Germans on the eastern front that no one will ever know because most did not survive the war
A lot of their stories were told You just don't hear of them because of politics. Nobody wants to glorify Nazis! Now their even denying these stories. To get the real story read Carius's memoirs Tigers in the Mud good book
@@khann844 i hope one day we will see movies obout them, i want to know the other side
@@Future183 you won't hear of anything the WOKE culture doesn't approve of anymore.
@@JRCinKY bro don't say that!
14 yrs olds western kids will come and call you a wehraboo
@@khann844 ALL of their stories were told. Thanks to the Cold War, plenty of surviving Wehrmacht military from soldiers to generals had opportunity to publish their memoirs in the West, with no one to check their claims. If you add all the Soviet tanks and personnel "destroyed" in this stories, you would wipe out Soviet tank production and population several times over. To this day wehraboos believe that Axis forces were vastly outnumbered on the Eastern Front, and that's what caused their demise, while in reality they were more or less the same, and Axis had advantage of surprise.
Even after 80 years ,people are still mesmerized by these tiger tanks 😲
imagine if they still have powers !
@@hiwa_st7477 the fact that people are interested in this past means they are immortalized
@@hiwa_st7477 Park them in Times Square in front of J00g1e 😆
@@143AD that would be funny 🤣
Your name is stephen. I'm not surprised at your stupidity.
Man!
This proves again that a good crew can do a lot more than tanks!
wrong this has nothing to do with crew only this has to do with gun side/crew/gun/position atck or def/ground/ammo/amazing radio.s in all tanks so great communication/and stupid orders from commanders to engage in a situation when there is nothing to gain
The Soviet tanks were empty, they had no crew.
Er hatte mehr Glück als Verstand.
@andre Everything in this attack was about German crews being better. Do you understand how much better trained German tank crews were compared to russians..? Besides training, most of the Tiger/Panther etc crews were already battle hardened of smaller panzers from the campaigns of Poland, France etc before barbarossa.
.. Also, the 2 t-34s (that were there observing the road/to stop this exact thing from happening) didn’t even get a shot at Carius before Kerscher destroyed them..
.. You don't think German crews tactics played a role here..?
@@slawawacker.. But they still managed to shoot back at Tigers and missed.. "don't worry about the russians, they always miss the first shot." was a saying in German army.
Seems legit here.
@@petel7418 Tiger is a heavy tank with a long firing range. The T-34 is a medium tank with a short range of fire.
The German crew was not better, they fought with new heavy tanks against old medium tanks.
I have the distinct honor of meeting Otto Carius in late 2006, in Baumholder, Germany and getting to hold his Iron Cross with Oak leaves for this action.
Awesome!!!!!
Wow
I am sure it was a great privilege to meet such a courageous man.
I have a Panzer Tiger 1 Print that Otto Carrius signed. He was a great soldier and leader.
How did u obtain the signed print ?
@@ABO3LYY bought it when it came out about 20+ years ago. "Tigers to the Front" I think. 5 other Tiger commanders signed it also
Mistake. Wedge of Iron is the name.
@@JRCinKY
That's FANTASTIC.
@@ABO3LYY After the War Otto carius remaine an pharmanist in germany for the rest of his live. He even named the pharmacy "tiger aphotheke (german for Pharmacy)". From what i heard he was in general really open about the topic and you could talk with him about it
I have been studying ww2 and armoured warfare for decades and I never knew the IS2 had to depress its gun to load. Excellent info in a great video. Many thanks
Me either. But I know in principle Russian ordnance and surplus was a pig too use. You really suffered with it.
Depressing the gun tube (I.e., pointing the muzzle at the ground ) results in the breech of the main gun UP by the inside of turret roof, where it is extremely difficult to load a round.
The narrator should have said “ The IS-2s had to raise their guns to lower the breech block enough to load the main gun”.
Im not sure about..i have read a lot of books speaking about JS 2..his drawback was that, being 122 mm ammo so heavy, the shell, and the propellent was separate..that means a low rate of fire..another big problem was that only 22 rounds was carried..and as i said, i have seen several articles about malinava and them speak about 17 T34/85 and only one Josef Stalin...
Loading round then Charge; Lenny G. LBC.🌊🏝️🏖️🍀🍀🍀
Most people couldn't even comprehend how big of balls it would take to drive your tank straight into the enemy's town.
He was the leader too!!
That's a real man
sure, like the Tiger crew had anything to fear while riding in the most heavily armed tank on the battlefield that they knew of at the time.
@@touristguy87 the idiocy that just oozed out of your pie hole is hilarious that it proves you're an idiot.
Zero brains
A complete 💩stain
@@touristguy87 bonehead 🤦
@@touristguy87 well no, the IS2 was had even thicker armor, even bigger gun, and there where more of them. This action performed by the two tigers is simply stunning, excellent performed
@@MissMan666 they were not even crewed
I recomment Carius book: "Tigers in the mud". What followed on this suprise attack was even more fascinating/heroic.
i recommend you to read Soviet authors, in Russian language.
The second action where Carius claims c 20 IS-2 is completely made up. It simply did not happen and the account by the commanding officer of the Tiger Unit is printed at the back of the book. He makes no mention of the second action and also attributes the kills Carius claimed all for himself to several Tigers.
@@michaelkenny8540 They didn't "make things up", back then. They didn't need to much less thoguht about it. That is a trait from the small hat gang. Maybe you know them.
Even they lost the Germans still impress me everytime
Nazi buzz off
Read "Tigers in the Mud" it's about Otto. An amazing individual.
@@donaldkroth2579 Got the book, good book.
When 1 man fights 12 men losing isn't a surprise. Thats why I'm tired of th TV hero stories against the Germans. The Germans often rushed units to show mercy to the enemy, not destroy them and save ammunition. This was a tactic of Rommell and is rarely explained.
Nazi lover
IS2 looks good from what you would want out of a tank, like heavy sloped armor ,low profile, big powerful gun, but the downside is a cramped crew compartment making it rather chaotic to reload rapidly, aim the gun and so on oppossed to a Tiger tank that has a large Turret where the crew has lots of room to do their roles more effectively under combat conditions and that can make a huge difference in a fire fight
The IS 2 mostly got success due to its large numbers that were fielded
Its big gun was both its best asset and drawback. A good hit, even from a HE shell, could easily ruin the day even for a Tiger II. But the heavy two piece ammunition was very slow to reload (at best 2-3 rounds per minute,after the first few round it would slow down even further) and it could only carry 28 rounds of main gun ammo, Meanwhile a Tiger 1 could fire at least 6 rounds per minute and could carry more than 100 rounds of main gun ammo. The IS-2 had very thick, but also poor quality armor. Non-penetrating hits from German high velocity guns would cause pieces of armor to loosen and ricochet inside the tank and maim and kill crew members. German AT gunners and tank crews testified that the crews of the IS-2 would often bail out as soon as it got hit.
@@TTTT-oc4eb Also the sites of the gun had to be re-trained on the target as the main guns breach had to be lowered to reload. Was a terrible tank
The gun on the is2 was inaccurate as an antitank gun beyond 900meters. That’s a significant difference between the effective range of the tiger1 which was between 1500-2000m or the tiger’s 2 at 3500m, in combat conditions.
Not only that, the IS2 could carry just 28 shells, inadequate for any operation.
@@TTTT-oc4eb Very interesting detail there, thanks.
That was a steel massacre! Tank commander Otto Carius and the underrated Kurt Knispel were the terror of Soviet tank crews.
I would be absolutely terrified if I knew I was going up against Kurt Knispel, he was absolutely the real deal......as if going up against Tiger I/II, Panthers, and Jagdtiger wasn't already terrifying enough 💀☠️💀
@@michaelbruce6190 ikr ? If they knew who they were up against I bet some of them would've just deserted
@@tahmids4082 Desertion had grave consequences in the Red Army. Better to die fighting.
What happened to these Nazi bastards? Shot dead or escaped to US?
I like how the german high command didn't micromanage their troops. They were nearly free to accomplish goals however they saw fit for the given situation. Definitely didn't hurt their effectiveness.
Of course they micromanaged their troops
it all depends on what you call "micromanaging"
When one side gives the orders and the other side is expected to follow them, the natural tendency is for the side that has the power to give orders to give an increasing # of orders with greater scope and micro-managing becomes SOP. Delegating that to subordinates or calling it "training" doesn't change what that is.
Of course, up and down the chain of command there is a certain rebellion against this, and ultimately superiors have to rely on subordinates to carry-out the orders given to them, but many battles were lost by insubordination which was then used as a justification for more micro-management, and just the same many battles were won through insubordination which was then used as a justification for further insubordination. It's hard to be either obedient or insubordination if one dies in battle, likewise up the chain of command it is difficult to remain in ones place if ones actions result in the loss of significant battles or significant resources required to even have a chance of winning a battle. So in the end it all plays out and the concept of "micromanagement" becomes fluid. But does it happen? Of course it happens.
It's a wonderful thing to survive a war and be able to write history as one chooses.
But Hitler thought he knew warfare and fucked things up trying to tell professionals like manstein and Heinz how to make war f..... G idiot.
Only the Corporal Hitler micro manage his German Field Marshals Commanders one of the main reasons they are defeated
@@touristguy87 this sir is wrong. German doctrine had somthing Called Augtragstaktik. Basically command would give orders and lower ranks would be able to carry it out how they saw fit. You can look it up on wiki of you want a good understanding of the German doctrine I'm talking about.
@@hunterjager9538 and what difference does that make? They're still carrying-out orders from superior officers. Just means they get to carry them out however they want to.
Otto Carius a great tank commander who never receives the accolades he should, has always been overlooked by Michael Wittmann. Kurt Knispel was the highest scoring tank ace and the same comment also applies to him. This video illustrates that with the right tactics the Tiger could take on a higher number of enemy tanks. The IS 2 is always overlooked by the success of the T34.
Ryska pansarfordon är skit
"Success " ? More than dubious... They are famed by their massive production and bursting into flames as soon as hit !
@rainbowseeker5930
Who mentioned the word success just that with right man in charge and tactics they could take on any allied or soviet armour. If developed prior to 1939 and with increased manufacturing capability they would have dominated any battlefield on any front.
Quality over quantity, love the german style.
Definetely not made in China, huh...? 😉
Last I checked that didn't work out for them. Quality over quantity.
@@jefferyashmore6477 you just dmitted to "quality over quantity"..those who struggle to string a simple sentence together offering criticism. Mmm..
Tigers in the Mud is a great book about Otto Carius and everything he went through in the war to even describe actions in an AAR style. A must read in my opinion.
Thanks, I will read it.
Fantastic my Friend.
I had heard bits and pieces of the battle in the past... but never told so well.
Keep them coming!
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I had an uncle by marriage who was in WW2. What a wonderful Guy to know. Every soldier who served in the war had to have more balls than we could ever imagine.
Both my Grandfathers served with the Germans. Both survived, but only just. One was at a Railway Station when a Spitfire bombed it! He was being transported by 2 MP's and handcuffed to one MP. As the plane came in he saw the bomb coming and dived behind a wall. Both the MP's were blown to pieces and all that was left was his hand still in the cuff - true story!
Great story of how pure luck played a vital role of survival.
God bless Otto Carius.
To see a company of Tiger Tanks Rolling over the steppe ..A sight not many would forget!
"Carius only had minutes before the crews got to their tanks!" "a rest area?" History is definitely written by the victors! Lol they weren't in a rest area! They were pillaging the town! According to Carius's memoir "Tigers in the Mud" They were running out of the building with anything that wasn't attached. Somehow this little fact always gets missed
Well, when you’ve been the advancing Mongol Horde and you stop to Rape, Loot, Plunder, Burn, and Pillage guess that counts as “R&R” God bless the memory of German Armed Forces who fought for freedom from the Bolsheviks.
What expect the germans after the crimes in Russia...............human rights??????
@@alejandrocasalegno1657 This was in Lithuania.
@@TTTT-oc4eb You are right.......for the russians doesn´t matter.
@@alejandrocasalegno1657 Crimes in Russia 😂
Having all those tanks unoccupied by their crews certainly assisted in his success! How could anyone not notice the noise of two tanks rolling toward them if their own engines weren’t running? Incredible feat of surprise & initiative!
Gas motors can be quieter than the diesels in the Soviet tanks.
And assuming no enemy tanks are in your AO
They got caught sleeping
Those incompetent slavic soldiers though the 2 tank coming for them were friendly tanks coming back for services. And they slept on the job.
They were busy pillaging the town
I highly recommend his book Tigers in the mud, there are even much better stories in there, stories that any hollywood movie could only dream of making.
Sadly it will prolly never be visualised
I love TIGER tanks.
Thx bro
Every 14 to 17 year old kid does
@@irrelevant9023 I mean it is arguably the most known tank
Quite Awesome performers when used well.
@@irrelevant9023 Many fully grown adult men love Tigers too!
Crazy that they knocked out 17 got to the Russians this was nothing. Imagine the Germans reaction if they lost 17 tigers in one action.
I've read accounts where in early 43 the Russians captured 10 new TIgers on rail that never saw combat or abandoning as many or so due to the rapidly advancing front with the logistic and fuel issues they had. Losing Tigers like that seems to me to be even more disappointing.
Bigger disappointment here is that there were multiple soviet tanks staying idle, with crews hussling to man them, so there was at least a chance to capture the machines untouched.
Learn the history of the tank battle near the Polish village of Lisow where Germans 501 heavy tank battalion (which included tigers i and tigers II) was destroyed in one battle
You dont have to imagine,germans lost 200 panthers and 90 Ferdinanads in Kursk battle
@@rodjarrow6575 The battle with the sPzAbt 424 (not 501), where the crew of Tiger 111 single-handedly destroyed 20 Russian tanks?
Even today, folks who don't know much about tanks will say Tiger or Sherman when asked to name a tank
When you realize that those IS-2s were not t-34s
IS-2s were giant monsters but still got a heavy beating from tigers
Yeah, I was terrified of them, until I saw this! Tiger 1, Maaan...
To me, the IS-2 is a very ferocious large wild boar, yes they are dangerous, no doubt they can kill a tiger.
But in fact they are still one of the tiger's main food sources.😁
@@143AD😁
Seems to me the quality of the crews and the commander were the telling reasons for the win.
Ja, die Deutschen waren hervoragend ausgebildet, und in die Tiger I kamen meist nur die Besten der Besten. Veteranen die zuvor mit dem Pz III und IV sich bewährt hatten. Das begründete den Ruf des Tigers der als Panzer selbst gar nicht so überragend war. Im Gegensatz dazu waren die Panzerfahrer der Roten Armee nur rudimentär ausgebildet und lernten den Umgang mit ihren Panzern durch Versuch und Irttum (Trial and Error) direkt im Kampfeinsatz, sofern sie die Irrtümer überlebten.
There are a lot of accounts like this. One German officer single handedly destroyed 6 T-34 tanks with his bare hands, no Tank and 6 hand grenades once! He ran along throwing them down the open hatches.
Read his auto-biography.........highly recommended. In another action, Carius caught an entire column of Soviet tanks in 'transport mode' and annihilated the entire group by surprise and correct deployment against the road the soviets were moving on.
I think that is an action said to have happened the same day as the 17 IS-2 claim. However the account by the commanding officer of the Tiger Unit makes no mention at all of this 2nd claimed ambush. It looks like it is made-up.
...what do you think about the part where he surrendered to the Red Army and they slapped him on the back and said "...you're the guy who took-out hundreds of our tanks defending your fellow Nazis as they worked Soviet POWs to death? Wow, well, done!" then marched him off to do 10 years hard labor in Siberia...
@@touristguy87 Don‘t think he spent a single day in Siberia. Lived a peaceful prosperous life in western Germany after the war owning a pharmacy.
@@castrogonzalez614 hm you're right...maybe the Soviets didn't ship him all the way to Siberia after capturing him.
Even in 1944 the Germans still often had the upper hand Russia was so worried about the famous TIGERS that in the 80s they even made a movie called; The Ghost of the Tiger. A tanks that the Russian could never completly destroy the Tiger Tank was the most feared Tank on both sides East and West Fronts 1944/45
Another great vid. thank you
The IS-2 was NOT designed to "smash Tiger tanks", it was designed as the Russian version of the Tiger and it was used to lead assaults and exploit breakthroughs. It was NOT designed to engage enemy tanks directly. The Soviets had developed the IS-2's armor with the German 7.5cm Pak 40 anti-tank gun in mind, not the Tiger's 88.
Tf??? The canon are enough to beat Tiger
They literally made 1000's of them.
It was made for multiple purpose including killing tanks.
Nobody need 1000's of break through tanks
@@NapoleonBonaparte-of4sl It was not about the cannon, it was about its role. Same as the Tiger.
@@gravitatemortuus1080 yes i know now, the mobility are bad
@@gravitatemortuus1080 yeah, everything including armor
Germany. Pure power
There is no vanity in them. Just virtue, disipline, honour, ethics morals and prnciples and for purpose. Not like the West today. That needs to be applauded.
The tank does not decide who wins the fight...its the crew...
Both, Tank and Crew
for me its the crew
remember the first tank ace of ww2 is a polish and he is using a tankette which is armed with a 20mm gun facing Panzer II and III also he killed the last monarch of Prussia who was a tank commander
Try destroying a tiger with a ww1 tank
After playing Post Scriptum for 700+ hours exclusively as a tanker, i can say that it's 25-75
25 tank. 75 crew.
New to channel. Love the videos & maps. Thank you for rare film of tanks, a fav of mine. Subscribed
The IS2 was supposed to be the “break through” tank, but instead just broke down due to poor construction, poor crew ergonomics and poor battlefield coordination.
Still won
@@vasiliymedvedev1532 You 'won?'...yeah, with a lot of help if I recall correctly, LOL💃💃💃
@@143AD without lend-lease they would have been leaves in a burning wind.
@@gratefulguy4130 Definetely.
@@gratefulguy4130 exactly lol we helped them BIG TIME 😂 they would have been obliterated
Idk where this channel gets their video clips but Its the best I've seen anywhere else on ww2 subject, Krazy footage
Great footage and narration! I hope that l live long enough to see these Tiger tank films sharpened and colorized.
The disadvantage of the first JS2 was the low rate of fire caused by the weight of the hand-loaded and separated projectiles and charges, later corrected with the introduction of a semi-automatic breach...
I may be wrong, buy they probably envisioned them as a long ranage attack tank, where rapid reloading was not that crucuial. Tiger I proved better overall it seems.
Great video!
4:38 is footage from Polish TV show "Four Tankers and a Dog". Show is about Polish tankers with German shepherd driving Russian tank
Great video. I liked it and I subscribed
The Germans were always outnumbered but they fought like lions.
Nice Video showing swift ,Fast attacking & correct arranging & directing of Firepower to defeating enemy large quantity
The Panzer VI Tiger 1 is an incredible machine, but not for the reasons people think of. Its design was overly complex, and its armor was flat and plagued with weakspots...
But it was still one of the most effective tanks in the war. Its gun was among the best, and it was operated by the better crews of the German army. The world will not see ever again a tank produced in such low numbers yet still made a huge impact in performance.
someon with zerro clue at all :)
The Tiger 1s flat armor is not a design flaw. Nor was the tiger plagued with weak spots. The Tiger 1s armor design allowed for armor angling, which worked in the Tigers favor to deflect more powerful rounds and the Flat armor allowed for better crew space so they could work more efficiently.
@@ArcticWolf00Alpha0 finaly someone with brain between the ears
Fun Fact:IS-2’s effectiveness as a tank destroyer was limited due to it’s very long reload and limited amount of ammunition.Most IS-2’s generally carried 20 HE(HE was effective against most German tanks but it had very poor accuracy)and 8 AP rounds combined with a firing rate of only 2(sometimes 3) rounds per minute.
Tigers always benefited from soft factors like ammo capacity,larger space for the crew which increased effectiveness the crew,much faster rate of firing,sharper optics and having one extra crew member compared to IS-2 which had only 4.
It’s amazing how effective this tank could be when it was in right hands.Even though it might not be exactly as tough as an IS-2(i’m talking about Tiger I)head to head it had much superior optics,a more accurate gun and a much faster reload making it much more effective for tank warfare.
I wouldn’t say the Tiger wasn’t as tough. Similar armor thickness but the Tiger had very high quality rolled nickel steel armor which was very hard and durable. Soviet armor was cheap. Also the Tigers gun mantlet is 120mm thick, in addition to the front turret being 100mm thick. That’s 220mm of protection.
Don’t forget that tracks can be mounted to the front hull as well.
Read his book! "Tigers in the mud" a few details left out that youll find there. Especially the details on the Tigers reliability as well as the details on how IS-2s really were.
Thank you for the excellent video
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome video!!
Your videos never fail to impress
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My god the balls on these German troops it’s quite surprising how they lost the war imagine if the Germans had the materials and resources of the USA and Russia
If they did, a lot more people would have died German would have been the universal language
“If”
Not surprising they lost. One guy cant fight 12 guys, but even then they gave them a run for their money! Maaan...
RemarkBle leadership worthy of remarkable battle tank . Thoroughly engaging .
Tigers in the mud. His memoirs. Amazing book
Tiger Tank......legend. 😎
As The Germans used to say an IS-2 always tips it's hat to a Tiger.
No they did not. Try looking it up and you will find your error.
@@michaelkenny8540 yea, they did. i see you hating thru comments section. Germans are better than you or I.
@@Uthandol You just prove how little you know. The saving gracer your ignorance prevents you understanding your error.
@@michaelkenny8540 You can hate all you want. But Germans and Japanese are still better than you. And history proves it.
@@michaelkenny8540 You are right. It should be T-34 not IS-2. Tigers didn't have quite as much firepower to shoot IS-2 turret off.
Great vid on an intresting story! Thanks for sharing, appreciate it a lot.
Greets from the Netherlands 🌷, T.
There is an episode of " Greatest tank battles " that highlights this encounter. Definitely worth watching.
7:38 - fun fact. you can see a T34 102 RUDY from polish army on the eastern front. it featured in one of the best known tv series of all times in Poland - Four Tankmen and a Dog ( czterej pancerni i pies)
Fun series that. In the series, the English are known as 5 o clockers as they had tea then. Which of course we don't, it is at 4pm, but bless, the Poles did attack tanks with swords :)
So not i was the only who noticed Rudy the 102 T-34-85
@@williamwilliam5066 It is funny that in XXI century there are idiots who belive in Mr. Gebels propaganda about Poles attacking tanks with swords. xD
@@menow1893 Fun fact, you walked straight into that wide open tank trap didn't you glupek. Satire, irony and subtlety is lost on you. Long live the glorious nation of Polska and its current government!
@@williamwilliam5066 LOL. The comment was not directed against you. I thought you didn't believe that cavalry attack nonsense. You must be a chauvinist looking for an excuse to insult people on the basis of nationality, still having Nazi mental problems. "Satire, irony and subtlety is only for ubermensch like you xD"
Great footage.
I listed to his audiobook on Audible and it was great.
IS-2 also had 2 piece ammo.
The most savage tank battles in history...
Full speed
Great narration
This short combat incidents are really interesting, shows tenacity and bravery
My grandad got his MC for similar actions in ww2 and later OBE
Love bedtime tank stories.
Aces was already built different, i wish there's lots story like this onward
This is legendary. These men really knew their stuff.
'"Out Standing" , Herr Carius !
What a Guy , that's a Commander right there ..the Tiger worked if in the right hands .
Guys … just read Otto carius Book
The IS-2 tanks had to ELEVATE their gun tubes to load ( which brought the breech block of the main gun DOWN to facilitate the loading ).
You’re welcome….
Love these stories😉
Awesome :)
Balls of steel.
Bit of a contradiction in his book though, possibly due to poor translation mix up? . On one page of his book Tigers In The Mud it said 17 Stalins and 5 T-34s and yet in the after action report in the same book it said 17 T-43s and 6 Stalins.
Well, people tend to bloat their results a bit, especially so called "German Aces". I don't say that they weren't really fucking good, but it is a well known fact that after battle reports often had bloated values, that were bloated even more in Nazi Germany war propaganda.
Git good,
Otto Carius himself said he never counted his kills and that they were exaggerated. As I said, the actual after action report cited 17 T-43s (T-34s) and 6 Stalins.
The other version could have been a translation mix up. The editor clearly didn't check properly.
I think it's quite telling that all postwar
and modern tanks tend to resemble
WWII German rather than allied designs
They have my respect even though my
own uncle was one of the many victims
of these superior designs
That's good you can admit it. We have a tendency to downplay their technical accomplishments even though that same thing repeats itself across a vast number of fields from small arms to civilian technologies.
I remember reading about this engagement in a book about Carius.
I enjoyed the video and the story.
King Tiger the terminator of tanks. 👊
And then think Otto lived until 2015.
Russians: we have a new tank with better armor and a 120 mm gun!
Tiger: watever 😉
BAMM!
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There's all sorts of rubbish around about the Tiger. Too slow (not true), turret couldn't turn fast enough(not true), too unreliable (not true) etc. It was just very expensive to produce (true) but Germany was lacking top panzer crews, not steel...
Great music!
Just for the record, Carius didnt drive into the village, his driver did. Carius didnt hit the IS2, his gunner did. Carius didnt load the next round in record time..
You get the idea. Its team work.
You don’t understand what a tank
Commander does I guess it’s a big difference when you have a competent commander
Look brother I will tell you something (an army of goats led by a lion 🦁 is better than an army of lion led by a goat 🐐)in the whole history we saw small troops smashing bigger armies... Alexander the Great ... Julius Caesar... Hannibal...all fought stronger troops and won ...so I think leadership is important...it's my own opinion
Find it kinda funny that you used "4 tankers and a dog" as historic footage lol
De Gaulle's upon touring Stalingrad in November 1944, were telling as he looked at the graveyards of the German soldiers still not disturbed and the carnage of what was left of Stalingrad he commented began to muse and then said (paraphrase) "....nonetheless a great people a formidable people." He paused and saw the Russians smiling broadly and then came his dagger thrust as only De Gaulle could "No, I'm not speaking about the Russians but the Germans.....to have made it this far."
Soviet IS-2 was considered heavy tank by Soviets. 45 tons. Weighed as much as Panther-A. Medium tank by German standards. Could carry 75 shells. Stalin could carry 28 shells. Tiger-1 could carry 92 shells. 56 tons. JS-2s could take on German Big Cats 1 on 1. Western Allies could not.
Western allies can the Sherman 75 crew found why's to pen a tiger front and used smoke shells to make the tiger crew abounded the tank the Sherman received modification to fit a 17 pounder gun it can pen a tiger front at the range of 1000 and the 76 it also can pen a front of a tiger the Sherman Crews have to worry about anti tank guns not tanks the 75mm gun did very good job agent's anti tank guns
Both american 76mm gun and the british 17pdr could easily penetrate the front of a Tiger. Not to mention the fact that during the war it was quite a common practice for allied tank crews to fire HE or phosphorus shells against german tanks which could break the armor after a few consecutive hits or put so much stress on the crew that the germans would abandon the tank. You dont always need to blow up the tank to take it out of the fight :) And when Pershing arrived in Europe the situation changed drastically - Pershings were absolutely destroying Tiger tanks in 1v1 situations :)
That's when you wrong.
German standard of classify tank was different than all other nations in WW2.
They decided by tank's main gun caliber. That means IS-2 is super duper heavy by its 122mm main gun, double size vs 88mm on both tiger Is or IIs.
Panthers and Tiger Is were born as an answer to T-34s swarm, they meant to destroy as much tank as possible while IS-2s were not. Their main purpose was heavy arty support for infantrymen.
Yes, even Tiger I had no chance in sniper mode, they acted far more better in close and personal style. That's why in brilliant commander's hand, their outcome can surprise us all.
One more thing that Western Allies can easily penetrate Tiger I by 1944. Even the long 76mm on Sherman can do it decently (dont let "Fury" lie on you, Tiger I armor's no longer so invincible), not to say the 17 pounder on many types of tank in UK army.
@@Lehr-km5be They were? Why then Tiger I destroyed Pershing Fireball? Pershing was obsolete for 45 because it wasn't better than Tiger I in anything except little armor. Tiger I was better than any western or eastern tank and it was best tank of the war because there was only 1500 or so made yet they destroyed much 88 on Tiger 1 was too much for any enemy tank not to mention longer 88 on Tiger 2 or 7.5 long barrel that was on Panther. Nothing that allies had could stop that.
5000 shermans was destroyed and there was not even great tank battle on western front When there was Ardennes offensive and when shermans came face to face with spearhead of 400 panthers and tigers, then US decided to send in europe Pershing tank which was only real proper US tank but obsolete by that point because it was same as tiger one with little better armor and Tiger 1 was first on battlefield in late 1942.
Britain lost 15.000 tanks and soviets lost 44.000 T-34 during the war and they had many models of other tanks
Late sherman had armor weaker than PZ IV except one version (maybe Jumbo) that had lot better frontal armor but still any german antitank cannon could pierce it. Even weakest of them that was on Stugs III and PZ IV. Gun could barely destroy Tiger only from close while Tiger could destroy any sherman from 2000 meters. Best medium tank of WW2 was PZ IV or Panther if you count that as medium but i think its more heavy. Sherman was worst tank ever. If they got shot they wouldn't escape because they would be burning. They were flammable as gasoline. Sherman died in 1957 while T-34 is still used today. And T-34 was good only because high numbers. Sherman was obsolete, junkyard vehicle that survived only because allies had air superiority. If they didn't, allies would be decimated. What kind of tank cannot survive one hit? Sherman can't
1944 when germans destroyed many of them those who experienced only penetration without being destroyed but their hull inside turns into shrapnels that killed the crew. US maintenance just filled hole with metal and put new paint job and they send tank out again no matter that they knew crew wasn't safe. When from power of blast interior of sherman was broken and its debris killed the crew many times.
Sherman couldn't survive anything. Weakest gun that germans had on their tanks was too much for sherman. 88mm gun that was on Tiger 2 or Nashorn would be overkill for sherman. 7.5 gun on Panther was way too much for IS series and sherman stand no chance. Normal 88 from Tiger I was also too much. Sherman survived only because germans didn't have support from air so they couldn't work as they would if they were in air superiority
Firefly was trash. Since sherman is such lame product that gun made it slow and they would be destroyed not even seeing the enemy. Tiger I survived fire of IS-2 which had lot bigger gun than firefly.
@@michaelstark8720 Pershing was danking on shitty german Tigers - read some books :) 5000 shermans destroyed out of more than 50 thousand means only 10% losses - great achievement, unheard of by german tanks :) All of them suffered 100% loss rate because German tanks were crap compared to allied tanks :) And that is if they even managed to get to the battlefield in one piece :)
Pretty much every statement you made is incorrect so there is no point in debunking it :) You just embarassed yourself :)
Keep coping Wehraboo :)
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but russians in all battles near Malinovo lost only 5 is-2 and 17 t-34.
Interesting...
Tigers are being overhyped today but the reality is there were too few of them produced to make any sort of difference and the T 34 still remains the tank which won WW2.
Michael Wittman pulled off a similar surprise attack on a whole unit of Stalin's and T34/85's
I remember that. He called their fire, took hits to I.D. their position, even getting hit himself. Then flanked them and drove over the top of their artillary! Talk about cahonees!! He also destroyed an entire British column of artillary and tanks single handedly using one Tiger I Tank, that wasn't even his regular daily driver as his was in for scheduled mantenance. He was rapid firing the 88mm canon literally from 15 meters away as he drove along the column. The crew reported the noise to be indescribably terrifiying, even from inside their Tiger as the shell obliterated the units at such close range! There must of been scrapnel hitting the tiger and all. If I recall correclt, he received Oak Leaves to his Iron Cross First Class for that.
According to declassified Russian documents in 2017, Russia lost 97,000 tanks and assault guns.
And the Germans only 12,000 of all models on both fronts.
According to history books Germany was comprehensively beaten twice in 2 world wars in 30 years. How can a nation be so stupid and not learn its lesson the first time?
@@michaelkenny8540 Yeah and now the richest nation in europe as the head of European union
Wow, those tigers are very impressive, apparently panther and tigers were hard to drive, A lot of training needed 🤔
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The IS-2's 122mm main cannon was kind of a ridiculous idea. It was a repurposed artillery gun fitted to a tank. the IS-2 could only carry about 30 shells and those shells required an additional powder charge, slowing down the rate of fire.
The german 88mm, soviet 85mm, and american 90mm cannons were repurposed Anti-Aircraft cannons with much great rates of fire, higher accuracy, and larger shell capacity.
Read the book “Tigers in the Mud” great read.
Lol and people say the Is 2 can fight with Tigers 2... When the 1 is good enought
IS-2 never was meant to fight tanks, it a heavy breaktrough tank, it was designed to destroy fortifications like bunkers, not to fight tanks.
@@milosmilictrob2046 it was used for both but given its nature as a heavy breakthrough tank the t34 would take over after their job was achieved because of their mobility.
Is 2 despite packing a powerfull gun
It had poor sights
Slow reload which means if one missed shot there is a 1 min gap where the enemy could take u out
Same as a story from gulf war. Enemy havent fire single shot. Yeah.. right. 2 vs 19 tank without scratch... right
@@fpvpag4215 they weren't in their tanks because they were looting the town