Maypole dancing was banned by the Puritans when Cromwell was Lord Protector, they banned Al sorts of fun things including Christmas. No wonder we were glad when they buggered off to America.
Yes the Puritans fled to America to avoid "persecution" of course their definition of persecution was not being allowed to enforce their religious rules on everyone else. Then we wonder why American politics are going the way they are today?
Conquers is actually a lot of fun and very strategic a bigger nut has more mass to strike your opponent but is also a bigger target for them to hit as they dry out the soft inner flesh shrinks and gives less support to the hard but brittle shell. Missing your shot means your opponent gets to take a turn hitting your nut and you have to hold still. Skilled players will target damaged or weak looking areas of your nut. Striking as close to straight down as they can to transfer as much force as possible before the target swings away on its string.
It's probably been mentioned. When I was a kid, we used to bake the conkers in the oven and/or soak them in vinegar to make them stronger. I'm not sure about the science behind that. These days I still collect conkers when they start to fall to put around the skirting boards to keep spiders out. I'm not sure about the science behind that, either!
Terry Pratchett once wrote that the reason that Morris Dancers have bells on their shoes is to prevent them creeping up on you and you suffering an unexpected Morris Dance.
Something that was not mentioned about Mari Lwyd, It comes to the door singing the first verse of a song asking to come in, Depending on where in Wales you are you might be expected to sing back a verse making excuses why Mari Lwyd can't come in. This exchange would go back and forth until the people in the house ran out of excuses and eventually let Mari Lwyd and the troupe in and provide them with alcohol and food.
I can make a couple of contributions. The voice of punch is a very distinctive rasp produced by the pupeteer, using a small device in his mouth called a "swazzle". I suspect you could hear this somewhere on the internet. The pupeteer is called a "professor". The story is traditional involving a standard set of characters. It was performed from a small booth on the beach in most seaside towns. On fireworks night we are celebrating the failure of the gunpowder plot and the survival of the Kiing.
I have memories of seeing it often as a kid in the '70s at the seaside. Presumably, it's not really a thing anymore, or it has been sanitised to take out the beating and murdering!
@carltaylor6452 I'm only 22 and I saw punch and Judy every summer as a kid. Can remember him turning the baby into sausages and beating his wife and policemen
It should be called Guy Fawkes day/night. It was the BBC which started the abominable habit of forcing its staff not to mention the traitor Guy Fawkes, who was put to death in the manner reserved for traitors. So if they keep saying 'Bonfire Night', people will forget the origin, and Catholics won't be offerded.
Also wasn't a tradition until it became a law passed to warn people of the fate that befell people who tried to overthrow the king. Every major town needed to make an effigy of Guy Fawkes and burn it on the anniversary of the plot in order to deter other people from doing so. Like all such laws it was thrown out by the next monarch, but it made a tradition and now it's far removed from the original law that required it.
Speak for yourself, personally I strap a scarecrow of the king on a chair on top of some barrels of gunpowder and sit sipping a cold one with ol' guido while basking in the warmth of the fire pit that i just blew in my garden
How do americans break up the year with fun?. You have to remember we Brits have had thousands of years without radio, Tv or youtube so we made our own fun and long may it continue .
My Grandfather was told during the war by a fellow soldier that he should spit if he saw a single magpie. He laughed it off, but the next day a bomb went off and he got shrapnel in his leg and his friend was killed. Now all of our family still spit if we see a single magpie.
Bonfire Night is to celebrate the FAILURE of the Gunpowder Plot - and to celebrate the fact that the King and his Parliament were saved and survived, while the dastardly villains were caught and their evil plot was thwarted! The one plotter who is most remembered was named Guido (Guy for short) Fawkes.
A common catchphrase used by junior school boys when I was at such a school in England from age 8-13, was "That's the way to do it!". This was generally accompanied by a slap across the back of the head by the school chum who said it. 😅
@@chromenewt Yes, though the blunt force trauma was more likely to have resulted from one's Latin master's clips because one failed to decline fero, fers, tuli, latum, ferre correctly. 🙇♂️
I'm another 73 year old with memories of watching Punch & Judy shows on a beach. When I was around 4 or 5 I was so engrossed in watching the show I didn't notice a wasp that had settled on the ice lolly I was holding. I licked the lolly and got my tongue stung by the wasp.
@CathySalmon-rs1dm This particular video was reacted to by Tyler Rumple. I understand that Ryan Wurzer is his brother. Though it's easy to confuse them when they've both reacted to exactly the same video. I just copied my comments on here and pasted them on Ryan's.
I'm in my 30s and remember Punch and Judy shows very well 😂 Magpies...lol this was what we learned as kids where I grew up. One for sorrow Two for joy Three for a girl Four for a boy Five for silver Six for gold Seven for a secret never to be told Eight for a wish Nine for a kiss Ten a surprise you must not miss Eleven for health Twelve for wealth Thirteen beware it's the devil himself Fourteen for love Fifteen for a dove Sixteen for the chime of a bell Seventeen for the angels who shield us well Eighteen to be saved from hell Nineteen to be safe from a crime Twenty to now end this rhyme
Oh my gosh - my memory will never let me learn this and there isn't room to screenshot it sadly😢 I never knew it went up to twenty!! Well Done to You for knowing that! ❤🏴🎵🙂🇬🇧🖖
I only knew up to 10 as never seen more than 10 magpies together lol so never learned the rest , but remember every time i seen a magpie when younger i had to recite Good morning/evening mr Magpie how are you today , as i really believed if i saw 1 magpie bad things where going to happen if i never said it . Daft i know .
@@maz3555 Let's be daft together then - particularly in my case at least as I only knew the magpie rhyme up to 7 !! I don't really go out much these days (agoraphobia) except with my daughter, she's also my carer and books hospital appts. and hospital transport for me so I rarely get to "meet with magpies" in order to greet them properly! I can always hear them chattering away right outside my window, however so am not _entirely_ separated from Nature, though apart from the magpies, I usually hear a robin, crows, the "squeaky-wheel" call of a chaffinch (apparently?!) or the wild parakeets up in the nearby park, plus of course, blackbirds, pigeons, (rock doves?) Canada geese in flight, gulls...sometimes foxes, and as yesterday, feral cats 'arguing over who knows what'!! 🐈🐈🦊🦊🦜🦜🦜🤔🙂🏴❤️🇬🇧🖖
There is nothing 'innocent' about maypole dancing! It was a way of bringing young people from different villages together - and would often end in couples forming! All good pagan fun!
What's wrong with bringing people together and relationships happening from that, plus why mention pagans as tho they're bad. I wonder if you have ever met a pagan person or know what you're talking about i'm betting.
@@emmahowells8334 No worries - although I will have to call-off the Boggart I sent after you! If something knocks on your door at midnight tonight - best not answer it!🤣😂
I haven't seen a Punch and Judy show set up anywhere in a very long time, but in my childhood in the 1960's they were an integral part of summer holidays. You would find them set up on almost any seaside promenade. An essential part of bonfire night used to be "penny for the guy" - an effigy of Guy Fawkes made by stuffing old clothes with straw or paper which would be paraded house to house then burned on the fire. Contrary to the video, this is something else common in my childhood that I've not seen in many years.
In Newfoundland Canada we celebrate bonfire night. It is becoming less common but when I was growing up it was huge. The bonfire would begin to be set up a week or two in advance. No one was concerned about the environment back then so we would burn anything that was unwanted. Old tires were always a part of it because they would burn for so long. We would roast marshmallows and wieners over the fire . We didn’t do the fireworks tho. We also have Christmas crackers in Canada. 😊
They missed out two of the more dangerous ones ... Burning barrels in Ottery St Mary, Devon - involves carrying burning barrels through the streets. Silver Ball in St Column Major, Cornwall - involves battling the other team to carry a small silver ball to a town boundary; hundreds of players and no rules. The whole town gets boarded up.
A puppet play that would have featured a version of Punch was first recorded in England in May 1662 by the diarist Samuel Pepys. He noted seeing it in Covent Garden, London, performed by the Italian puppet showman Pietro Gimonde from Bologna, otherwise known as Signor Bologna.
Many of the older of these traditions wouldn't have transfered from here to the US, as they would have been frowned upon by the religious loonies that sailed to America in the seventeenth century!
The welsh tradition with the white horse entering your house to bring good luck is similar to something done in Scotland for Hogmanay (new years eve) except that for Hogmanay people will visit their neighbours, equipped with a piece of coal and a coin in their pocket, and a bottle (usually whiskey or vodka) - to bring good luck, warmth and wealth to the house, and will be greeted with a drink and hot food - traditionally Stovies (mashed potato with corned beef), haggis or other hot snacks. After visiting each house, you have had a couple of fingers of whiskey served by the household, and given out a round to everyone in the house from your bottle, then you move on to the next house, until you can't go on any more 🙂 It is also known as 'First Footing" - my Dad & his mates used to do this every year, someone would go outside before midnight, so they could knock the door once all the church bells & fireworks have gone off, to be the 'first foot' inside the door for the new year - and of course it's a great excuse for Scots everywhere to have a good drink I think it dates back to the pre-Roman, Celtic traditions around offering hospitality to visitors or strangers who appear at your doorstep - offering food, drink & warmth
Think about cartoons like 'Tom & Jerry', 'Wiley Coyote & the Road Runner', 'Popeye' (beating Bluto) or even 'slapstick' comedy such as the Three Stooges or even British pantomimes... Lot's of violence but kids and adults love it... 😎😂
1 for sorrow,2 for joy .3 for a girl .4 for a boy .5 for silver .6 for gold 7 for a secret never to be told. I do that you count many Magpie s you see together .there was a show called Magpie , in the verse in nursery rhyme book no bird name is said
Morris dancing is the English secret martial art, like eskrima stick fighting in other countries. It's like fight club; if you ask, there is no such thing as Morris stick fighting. They will laugh and deny it, but you try and mug a Morris dancer and they'll give pretty much anyone a bad time.
Worked with a Morris dancers and have been to some training sessions myself, he reckoned not considered a proper MD until you had broken a finger in a stick dance.
Conkers! Great fun and truly beautiful natural objects. The nut of the magnificent horse chestnut tree (a personal favourite!). They could be prepared by baking, pickling in vinegar, and other means. If you had a new conker and beat someone else's it became a 'oner', if it defeated a conker that had beaten five others, it would be promoted to a 'sixer', and so on, adding the kills of another as it went along, until it was finally defeated itself. The 'sport' involved a fair number of painfully bruised knuckles.
Punch & Judy shows were common at seaside resorts & children loved them, & some are still around. It's all very violent, but funny at the same time. Children love this sort of thing, remember the Tom & Jerry cartoon shows etc. kids are not afraid of this mock violence, but they love it. A Magpie is a type of large & noisy crow, black & white in colour, which it is the custom to salute & talk to when met. It is bad luck not to do so. There is a poem about this, which, counting the number of these birds seen together, starts 'One for sorry, two for joy, three for girl, four for a boy', & so on. Posh is just what Americans call 'fancy'. Strangely enough, people used to dress well for particular events, such as Church attendance on Sunday, hence your best clothes are known as 'Sunday Best'. It is the British meaning of smart, well dressed, not clever as in the US. One is 'smart' in a military uniform etc. All other attire is called casual, for any respectable event one should dress smartly, casual wear is only for relaxation & recreation. Maypole dancing was occasionally banned because of association with pagan festivals, especially by Puritan regimes, like Cromwell's, who disapproved of people enjoying themselves. Occasionally such festivities could descend into riots etc, which gave an excuse to stop them. Morris Dancing is a sort of sword dance, & goes back many centuries. It is called Morris from the Moors of north Africa, because often the dancers were painted in black face make up, though what the connection is is lost to time. Bonfire night celebrates defeating the terrorist plot to blow up the King etc, not celebrating Guy Fawkes himself, for he is the villain that is burnt on the fire.
The Mari Lwyd tradition, originating from Wales, has indeed been celebrated in parts of the Americas. Notably, there have been instances of its celebration in Chicago and Philadelphia. In Chicago, the Welsh expats group known as the Chicago Tafia has incorporated the Mari Lwyd into their pre-Christmas festivities, particularly during pub crawls. The tradition was introduced in Chicago by the group's chief organizer, David Parry, who created a Mari Lwyd figure in 2019. Since then, it has become a regular feature in their annual Festivus pub crawl. Similarly, in Philadelphia, the Mari Lwyd tradition was introduced and celebrated by local groups, including some dressed in 17th-century costume. The event involved collaboration with local historical and cultural groups and was marked by the presence of the Mari Lwyd at Christmas folk fairs in the city center. The organizers distributed pamphlets explaining the history and significance of the tradition to the public, alongside performances of traditional Pwnco songs. The initiative aimed to promote Welsh heritage in the area and hoped to make it an annual event.
In the Mari Llewd thing the people with the horse will essentially have an argument in song through the door, if you can't think of a response ypu have to let mari llewyd in, feed them and give them alcohol. They will rhen move on to the next house and the whole thing starts again
Tyler, One the Magpie ryme One for sorrow, Two for joy, Three for a girl, Four for a boy, Five for silver, Six for gold, Seven for a secret, Never to be told. However, there are a number of alternative versions and a longer rhyme which is local to Lancashire counts up to 13 magpies with an additional 6 lines: Eight for a wish, Nine for a kiss, Ten a surprise you should be careful not to miss, Eleven for health, Twelve for wealth, Thirteen beware it’s the devil himself. The earliest version of the rhyme was recorded in 1780 in a note in John Brand’s Observations on Popular Antiquities. I'm in my 60s now and still salute a single bird.
One for sorrow. Two for joy. Three for a girl. Four for a boy. Five for silver. Six for gold. Seven for a secret never to be told. That's as far as I know. My grandma insisted on saluting lone magpies.
I was born in the late 1940's in Glamorgan county, Wales, UK and emigrated to Toronto (pronounced "Torawna" by Torontonians) Canada in the mid-1950's with my immediate family. I don't recall, as a very young child, the Mari Lwyd man dressed in a horse skull and sheet visiting our Welsh home. My mother, born in Wales in the early 1920's, had told me of different Welsh customs and she NEVER mentioned the weird Mari Lwyd tradition. I get the feeling Mari Lwyd was a thing of the past by the time I was born. Conkers...WOW! I don't remember Conkers in Wales but seeing the video of the kids playing Conkers, did bring back the memory of of my playing Conkers (although we didn't call it Conkers) in the school yard in Toronto (circa the late1950's to the early 1960's). The idea of our game was to have our favourite chestnut, tied onto a shoestring, smash to pieces another boy's chestnut, also on a shoestring, until his chestnut was entirely on the ground in many pieces. Then move on with my winning chestnut and destroy another boy's prized chestnut! Now I know why as a child I liked watching movies with gladiators fighting each other to the death...LOL!
Back in the day it was customary for kids to "make a guy" kind of like a scarecrow but with a lot more finesse, 🙄 we would raid the cupboards looking for old clothes etc then go to a pre designated spot, plonk our Guy down and start hollering "penny for the Guy" usually about a week before "bommy night" we made a fortune 😂😂😂😂
One for sorrow, Two for joy, Three for a girl, Four for a boy, Five for silver, Six for gold, Seven for a secret never to be told, Eight for a wish, Nine for a kiss, Ten a surprise you should be careful not to miss, Eleven for health, Twelve for wealth, Thirteen beware it's the devil himself, Fourteen for love, Fifteen for a dove, Sixteen for the chime of a bell, Seventeen for the angels protection, Eighteen to be safe from hell, Nineteen to be safe from a crime, Twenty to end this rhyme.
Hiya Tyler, I wasn't a fan of Punch and Judy when I was little, I thought it was violent also, a British tradition you should react to is Gurning, its done at Egremont crab fayre, Egremont Crab fayre started in 1216, you'll be mildly amused by it I should think, this is Choppy in Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
Back in the late ‘60’s and the early’70’s on British tv there wasn’t a lot of programming for children but amongst the little there was, the undeniable best that we did have was a magazine program on the BBC called Blue Peter which is still being produced, the independent tv channels decided that they wanted to put out their own version of the programme and for some strange reason they named their offering MAGPIE and they used the rhyme for their signature tune. For some time the two programmes were transmitted in direct opposition and some families had arguments about which channel they were going to watch. Eventually the public grew tired of the offering and the ITV programme was cancelled. As a result there’s a whole segment of the British public who if they hear the rhyme or see a flock of magpies they will join in with the chant, without thinking about it.
The number of magpies you see at one time supposedly predicts your luck. I was brought up in a small English village, and have seen or taken part in all of these except Mari Lwyd and cheese rolling (I've also performed in a mummers play, which would have been a fine addition to the list). I'm amazed pantomime didn't make the list - you should really explore that eccentric British custom (there's a video explaining it at ruclips.net/video/KtRTxVIl150/видео.html )
@TribalMatriarch I got involved in an argument about that once. I suggested to a mate of mine that T & J was violent and he hotly dismissed it and said it wasn't. So I said "The characters hitting each other with baseball bats and flat irons, and dropping bowling balls on each other isn't violent?"
@@RobCrossgrove-p7dalthough there is a good episode of the Simpsons where marge gets concerned how violent itchy and scratchy are getting and then complains completely ruining the show
If you see one magpie that is supposed to presage sorrow / bad luck while if you see two it is supposed to indicate joy / good luck. Then there's a whole rhyme with 3 indicating a girl (baby)and 4 a boy etc
Mummering and the hobby horse is a tradition in province of Newfoundland and Labrador Canada, which was brought over by the settlers from the British Isles, which still goes on today
Punch and Judy shows are a traditional seaside thing for the kids in the UK, although the traditional story line is a little brutal with wife beating, murder and a hanging. The Punch and Judy show has roots in the 16th-century Italian commedia dell'arte. The figure of Punch is derived from the Neapolitan stock character of Pulcinella, which was anglicized to Punchinello.😱
Maypole dancing was banned in 1636, after THE MAYDAY MASSACRE.When the entire village of Drunkham-under- the-Table was horrifically strangled to death while Maypole dancing after an absinthe binge
Conkers. They bring back memories. Health and safety might have something to say nowadays because I remember bits flying off at speed in all directions when I was a kid.
There are 2 horse race tracks within a 10 mile radius of where I live. One of them I pass almost daily for work - in the racing season there is a meeting every couple of weeks - they do have different days - and some days and events can be a little more casual but still decent attire is expected - ladies day is when you will see a variety of hats - and is more formal - although some take the day out a little too far. There are often the races followed by some entertainment in the evening - not been for a while, but the last one I went to was the race meeting followed by Billy Ocean giving a bit of a sing.
Who can forget the poignancy of the Punch and Just Shows at every seaside resort,3 times a day, during the Summer Holiday Season? All of us kids sat in front of the mini Theatre and waited for the characters. On came Mr.Plod: The Policeman to a chorus of boos followed by a couple of scary Clowns and then, to a crescendo of Boos and Jeers came "Judy". Roared on by an eager, enthusiastic group of kids, Punch would go to work and send the clowns packing. Mr Plod soon followed and then came Judy. Within moments of the cheers began, Punch was swinging his stick and beat up Judy, badly. When the cheering died down, Punch left to a mini ovation. Judy got patched up and we returned for the 1,00pm Special Show. Happy Innocent Days..
The magpie rhyme has been made into a folk song by The Unthanks. There is a big folk dance festival, Wimborne Minster Folk Festival. Most folk music festivals in the UK will have Morris sides dancing or even doing workshops, also Ceilidh dancing which is a Scottish tradition.I guess the US folk dance would be line dancing, street dance or rockabilly 🤷🏼♀️. We did maypole dancing at school once it was great fun. There are a few Easter traditions that might be a bit odd like decorating Easter bonnets and chicken eggs and Easter egg hunts (usually chocolate eggs). We do have a lot of odd traditions and some are only specific to certain towns and villages, so could even be seen as odd by other Brits.
I am British and have grown up with most of these traditions & I can honestly say that listening to them being explained i was laughing as they do indeed sound insane 😂😂
The Magpie rhyme is very common. I don't think many people believe it anymore but it's just I e if those things you say and do now whenever you see one. "One for sorrow" means if you see one Magpie on its own some sorrow us coming your way, while "Two for joy" means joy or good luck is coming your way. "3 for a girl, 4 for a boy", was supposed to tell you if you were going to have a girl or a boy baby, and so on.
The cheese rolling competitions are great fun to watch. What you don't normally see is the amount of ambulances and paramedics waiting at the bottom. I gladly pay my taxes for the free healthcare to look after these folks. One day I might have a go, but I better do it soon or I'll end up breaking a hip any never recovering. :D
Magpies are Corvids, along with crows, ravens, rooks, jays, jackdaws, and choughs. They are very distinctive black and white birds and all are regarded as highly intelligent in the bird world. The superstitions around meeting them in different numbers gave birth to the old rhyme: "One for sorrow, Two for joy, Three for a girl, Four for a boy, Five for silver, Six for gold, Seven for a secret, Never to be told." In some parts (Lancashire, for one) it goes on; "Eight for a wish, Nine for a kiss, Ten a surprise you should be careful not to miss, Eleven for health, Twelve for wealth, Thirteen beware it’s the devil himself" Ah, life may have been simpler in those days but there were still dangers around!
Punch & Judy was found on seaside beaches every summer going back many many moons ago.. kids loved it.. you don't see them 9n many beaches now but it was great entertainment for kids when your grandma was a kid
I watched Punch And Judy shows many times on the beach as a child and these days have watched them with my grandchildren from time to time at the seaside/
Tyler, my hometown is a little seaside resort. A couple of summers back I did see Punch and Judy on the promenade. So it's still on the go. But I didnt stay to see what mayhem was performed.
It isn't allowed to tamper with a conker ! That's the rules, hit the "nut" as you put it, and break the other person's conker before they get yours ! 😂
@@cfawcett9870 It got out of hand at our school 😂 boys using their mum's nail varnish, or putting them in the oven , then H&S set in the late 90s made it banned in a lot of schools! Unless supervised by adults and you need to wear eye protection 🤨😅
Punch and Judy is a right of passage. When I was a child it was a must at the seaside. We laughed like drains at it, it's not the least bit scary. You need to watch with the soundtrack to appreciate it. Never made us violent, but I'm of a generation that knew the difference between real life and artificial.💗👵🏴🌹🌹
Hey Tyler. None of this is confusing when you consider the age of a lot of British customs. Most of what you see here has its roots in very ancient Pagan traditions. Some so old , that the full meanings are lost to time. We're talking thousands of years,... but as we're such an old Country, we're quite in tune with our old traditions, and the Old Ways, and although these customs are now a fun, or interesting anachronism to most folk looking in on us, you wont have to go far to see even the most modern of Brits carrying on old superstitions, or customs without even really thinking about what they're doing, or why. I personally think its beautiful to have and upkeep such obscure traditions. :) Love your reactions, and the channel. x
MAGPIE. Count the number of birds and compare it to the rhyme. 1 FOR SORROW 2 FOR JOY 3 FOR A GIRL 4 FOR A BOY 5 FOR SILVER 6 FOR GOLD 7 FOR A SECRET , NEVER TO BE TOLD. The picture shown is a SWEET CHESTNUT and not a HORSE CHESNUT. The outer coatings are very different ! HORSE CHESTNUTS only contain 1 nut ! Conkers have been banned in schools now. Hardening a conker is considered cheating in the sport ! We always pull the crackers before we start eating our Christmas dinner. The PLOT is NOT celebrated !! It's the fact that he was CAUGHT that is celebrated. That's why there's a GUY on top of the bonfire.
The Magpie one can be different depending where it is in England. The one I know is counting the magpies to see what you get hence. "One for sorrow, two for joy. Three for a girl and four for a boy. Five for silver, six for gold. Seven for a secret, never to be told" As you'd normally never see more than seven Magpies. As for the words to say when you see a single Magpie, we'd say "Morning Major".
Hi. Although conkers are technically a nut, outside of a Mojo video or a botany lesson, they're never referred to as a nut. They're only ever called conkers. And if an opponents conker hits your knuckles, it can bloody hurt! You can get conkers by throwing sticks up into the Horse chestnut tree in the autumn and knocking down the ripe "fruit", or you can just pick up the already fallen ones off the ground. The bigger they are, the better. As far as I know, (I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong), the coming of spring has been celebrated by just about every civilisation throughout history, (it's just a shame the USA doesn't have much history to speak of). It's basically a fertility rite, to make the crops grow and animals to successfully mate. Mayday is a public holiday in the UK. As far as I know, Mayday is to honour the Roman goddess Maya, and the Maypole itself represents, err, THE male member (nudge nudge wink wink). Here's the video with sound that they were showing in the Mojo clip. You can hear the bells and the music. ruclips.net/video/sArAC2_ow2k/видео.html
Magpies.... I only know 1 for sorrow, 2 for joy, 3 for a girl and 4 for a boy, 5 for silver, 6 for gold and 7 is a secret never told. But if you see 1 magpie and say " Hello Mr. Magpie, how is your hat?" the bad luck won't get you
whenever we went to the seaside as a child there would always be a punch and judy show on the promenade or sometimes on the beach. Not as often these days but you do still find them popping up from time to time.
Morris Dancing originally came from Portugal and James the 6th of Scotland brought it to Scotland and took his own Court Troop with him when he Became The King of England and it spread from there :)
Curious that in discussing conkers, ie inedible horse chestnuts, the accompanying image is of regular old chestnuts, of the kind roasted on an open fire, to quote the old song, to prepare them for eating!
There used to be a Punch and Judy show on every major beach in the country when I was a kid in the 50s and 60s. Children used to gather round the show booth and when there were enough the show began. We probably paid a few old pennies to watch.
Do Punch & Judy shows still exist? Probably but with Mr Punch attending an anger management session in each performance, the policeman only coming out of the station to catch motorists doing 31mph in a buillt-up-area, the crododile no longer participating after its re-wilding programme, and Toby the dog having to make do with vegan sausages! (Social Services took the baby long ago, btw.)
First of all, loved your reactions Tyler,especially to the Punch and Judy and Welsh tradition!😂😂 We still have a Punch and Judy show in the local resort town near me,on the seafront. It’s horrible! Stuff nightmares are made of. Poor kids!😬😂 As for the white horse,”You wouldn’t let it in”🤣 I have a pair of magpies living in the trees by me. Always salute if there’s only one!
Who can forget the poignancy of the Punch and Just Shows at every seaside resort,3 times a day, during the Summer Holiday Season? All of us kids sat in front of the mini Theatre and waited for the characters. On came Mr.Plod: The Policeman to a chorus of boos followed by a couple of scary Clowns and then, to a crescendo of Boos and Jeers came "Judy". Roared on by an eager, enthusiastic group of kids, Punch would go to work and send the clowns packing. Mr Plod soon followed and then came Judy. Within moments of the cheers began, Punch was swinging his stick and beat up Judy, badly. When the cheering died down, Punch left to a mini ovation. Judy got patched up and we returned for the 1,00pm Special Show. Happy Innocent Days..
I have seen a Punch and Judy show, it is actually based on an Italian character, Punchinella, who was a character of the Comedia Dell'arte in the 17th century, but adopted in the UK when he company toured here a little later. Magpie, One for sorrow, two for Joy, one for a girl and two for a boy. The worst effects of seeing one can be offset by hte phrase "hello Mr Magpie, how's the wife. The maypole is basically a phallic symbol. The ritual is for fertility, hence the occasional ban by religious people, as it could lead to sexual experiences. There are many variations on Morris Dancing , one used club like sticks whis represent swords and is a formalistic war dance. Bonfire night is to celebrate the failure of the Gunpowder plotters.
Perhaps you should search for a video of bonfire night in Ottery St Mary,Devon England, where they run through the town with flaming tar barrels on their backs…
we have ladies day at ascot, where there is a hat competition, some of them are crazy. sometimes brits still greet covids, a nod and good day, or doff your hat if you have one, i know people who do this, but dont get why exept ravens are synonimous with graveyards. everyone from genx and before knows the ryme, 3 for a girl 4 for a boy, as a small child i was woried i may have a baby and have to look after it, even at 5 i realised they couldnt make thier mind up. conkers are banned in most schools, you cant play through the cotton wool
EVERYONE in Britain knows about the old rhyme about magpies! "One for sorrow - two for joy - three for a girl - and four for a boy - five for silver - six for gold - seven for a secret, ready to be told!" It refers to whatever number of magpies you might happen to encounter while out in the countryside or park. If you only see one on its own, it's supposed to mean bad luck (unless you counter it by saying "Hello Mr. Magpie! How's your wife and children?"). If you come across two together, it means good luck! Seeing three means a girl is on the way - or a boy if you see four. Likewise, seeing five together means silver - while six means gold. And if you see seven magpies in a group, it means a secret you've been keeping is now ready to be told at last!
My mum...."As far as I'm concerned kid, the last person to enter parliament with honourable intentions was Guy Faulkes" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good peploe enter but sadly get corrupted by politics because politics an greed make it so.
My 4 year old son saw his first punch and Judy show during our summer seaside holiday last year. Yep, still around.
Maypole dancing was banned by the Puritans when Cromwell was Lord Protector, they banned Al sorts of fun things including Christmas. No wonder we were glad when they buggered off to America.
Yeah, Tyler seems to believe that things are only outlawed if they are categorically bad.
So true.@@zo7034
u do alot of naked maypole dancin do ya?
Yes the Puritans fled to America to avoid "persecution" of course their definition of persecution was not being allowed to enforce their religious rules on everyone else. Then we wonder why American politics are going the way they are today?
Conquers is actually a lot of fun and very strategic a bigger nut has more mass to strike your opponent but is also a bigger target for them to hit as they dry out the soft inner flesh shrinks and gives less support to the hard but brittle shell. Missing your shot means your opponent gets to take a turn hitting your nut and you have to hold still. Skilled players will target damaged or weak looking areas of your nut. Striking as close to straight down as they can to transfer as much force as possible before the target swings away on its string.
It's probably been mentioned. When I was a kid, we used to bake the conkers in the oven and/or soak them in vinegar to make them stronger. I'm not sure about the science behind that. These days I still collect conkers when they start to fall to put around the skirting boards to keep spiders out. I'm not sure about the science behind that, either!
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Terry Pratchett once wrote that the reason that Morris Dancers have bells on their shoes is to prevent them creeping up on you and you suffering an unexpected Morris Dance.
Wonderful Terry!
Something that was not mentioned about Mari Lwyd, It comes to the door singing the first verse of a song asking to come in, Depending on where in Wales you are you might be expected to sing back a verse making excuses why Mari Lwyd can't come in.
This exchange would go back and forth until the people in the house ran out of excuses and eventually let Mari Lwyd and the troupe in and provide them with alcohol and food.
I can make a couple of contributions. The voice of punch is a very distinctive rasp produced by the pupeteer, using a small device in his mouth called a "swazzle". I suspect you could hear this somewhere on the internet. The pupeteer is called a "professor". The story is traditional involving a standard set of characters. It was performed from a small booth on the beach in most seaside towns.
On fireworks night we are celebrating the failure of the gunpowder plot and the survival of the Kiing.
Perfect explanation- i think it prob will never transfer to the states 😂
I have memories of seeing it often as a kid in the '70s at the seaside. Presumably, it's not really a thing anymore, or it has been sanitised to take out the beating and murdering!
@@carltaylor6452 I would imagine the policeman was introduced sometime in the last 200 years, as they didn't exist in 1600's
@@carltaylor6452 There's a Punch and Judy show on Weymouth beach.
@carltaylor6452 I'm only 22 and I saw punch and Judy every summer as a kid. Can remember him turning the baby into sausages and beating his wife and policemen
Bonfire night isnt a celebration of guy fawkes and the plot. Its the opposite, its to celebrate guy fawkes being stopped.
It should be called Guy Fawkes day/night. It was the BBC which started the abominable habit of forcing its staff not to mention the traitor Guy Fawkes, who was put to death in the manner reserved for traitors. So if they keep saying 'Bonfire Night', people will forget the origin, and Catholics won't be offerded.
True. I am not sure why people think that making an effigy of someone and ceremoniously burning it, is somehow celebrating them.
Also wasn't a tradition until it became a law passed to warn people of the fate that befell people who tried to overthrow the king. Every major town needed to make an effigy of Guy Fawkes and burn it on the anniversary of the plot in order to deter other people from doing so.
Like all such laws it was thrown out by the next monarch, but it made a tradition and now it's far removed from the original law that required it.
Speak for yourself, personally I strap a scarecrow of the king on a chair on top of some barrels of gunpowder and sit sipping a cold one with ol' guido while basking in the warmth of the fire pit that i just blew in my garden
@@infertilepiggy5667TREASON IN THE FIRST DEGREE 😂😂
How do americans break up the year with fun?. You have to remember we Brits have had thousands of years without radio, Tv or youtube so we made our own fun and long may it continue .
My Grandfather was told during the war by a fellow soldier that he should spit if he saw a single magpie. He laughed it off, but the next day a bomb went off and he got shrapnel in his leg and his friend was killed. Now all of our family still spit if we see a single magpie.
Bonfire Night is to celebrate the FAILURE of the Gunpowder Plot - and to celebrate the fact that the King and his Parliament were saved and survived, while the dastardly villains were caught and their evil plot was thwarted! The one plotter who is most remembered was named Guido (Guy for short) Fawkes.
A common catchphrase used by junior school boys when I was at such a school in England from age 8-13, was "That's the way to do it!". This was generally accompanied by a slap across the back of the head by the school chum who said it. 😅
I forgot all about that! Probably due to the blunt force trauma to the cranium repeatedly. :D
@@chromenewt Yes, though the blunt force trauma was more likely to have resulted from one's Latin master's clips because one failed to decline fero, fers, tuli, latum, ferre correctly. 🙇♂️
Im 73 and used to watch Punch & Judy shows on the beach during our holidays.
Ryan, your reactions of amazement really made me laugh
I'm another 73 year old with memories of watching Punch & Judy shows on a beach. When I was around 4 or 5 I was so engrossed in watching the show I didn't notice a wasp that had settled on the ice lolly I was holding. I licked the lolly and got my tongue stung by the wasp.
@CathySalmon-rs1dm This particular video was reacted to by Tyler Rumple. I understand that Ryan Wurzer is his brother. Though it's easy to confuse them when they've both reacted to exactly the same video. I just copied my comments on here and pasted them on Ryan's.
@@RobCrossgrove-p7dthey are twin brothers! Ryan is married with a new little boy. 😊
I'm in my 30s and remember Punch and Judy shows very well 😂
Magpies...lol this was what we learned as kids where I grew up.
One for sorrow
Two for joy
Three for a girl
Four for a boy
Five for silver
Six for gold
Seven for a secret never to be told
Eight for a wish
Nine for a kiss
Ten a surprise you must not miss
Eleven for health
Twelve for wealth
Thirteen beware it's the devil himself
Fourteen for love
Fifteen for a dove
Sixteen for the chime of a bell
Seventeen for the angels who shield us well
Eighteen to be saved from hell
Nineteen to be safe from a crime
Twenty to now end this rhyme
I am so happy you wrote this in full!
Oh my gosh - my memory will never let me learn this and there isn't room to screenshot it sadly😢 I never knew it went up to twenty!! Well Done to You for knowing that! ❤🏴🎵🙂🇬🇧🖖
I only knew up to 10 as never seen more than 10 magpies together lol so never learned the rest , but remember every time i seen a magpie when younger i had to recite Good morning/evening mr Magpie how are you today , as i really believed if i saw 1 magpie bad things where going to happen if i never said it . Daft i know .
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Let's be daft together then - particularly in my case at least as I only knew the magpie rhyme up to 7 !! I don't really go out much these days (agoraphobia) except with my daughter, she's also my carer and books hospital appts. and hospital transport for me so I rarely get to "meet with magpies" in order to greet them properly! I can always hear them chattering away right outside my window, however so am not _entirely_ separated from Nature, though apart from the magpies, I usually hear a robin, crows, the "squeaky-wheel" call of a chaffinch (apparently?!) or the wild parakeets up in the nearby park, plus of course, blackbirds, pigeons, (rock doves?) Canada geese in flight, gulls...sometimes foxes, and as yesterday, feral cats 'arguing over who knows what'!! 🐈🐈🦊🦊🦜🦜🦜🤔🙂🏴❤️🇬🇧🖖
There is nothing 'innocent' about maypole dancing! It was a way of bringing young people from different villages together - and would often end in couples forming! All good pagan fun!
What's wrong with bringing people together and relationships happening from that, plus why mention pagans as tho they're bad. I wonder if you have ever met a pagan person or know what you're talking about i'm betting.
@@emmahowells8334 It wasn't a criticism. I identify as a pagan.
@@alanmoss3603 oh right sorry my bad, I'm a pagan I always defend my own people lol, so I apologise for the misunderstanding.
@@emmahowells8334 No worries - although I will have to call-off the Boggart I sent after you! If something knocks on your door at midnight tonight - best not answer it!🤣😂
@@alanmoss3603 Ok lol 😂😂👌🏻
Tyler: This maypole business seems fun and harmless! Who would think they need to ban this?
Me, knowing it's a pagan fertility ritual: *Wheeeeze*
Just goes to show that Christianity couldn't totally erase our Pagan heritage!
I haven't seen a Punch and Judy show set up anywhere in a very long time, but in my childhood in the 1960's they were an integral part of summer holidays. You would find them set up on almost any seaside promenade. An essential part of bonfire night used to be "penny for the guy" - an effigy of Guy Fawkes made by stuffing old clothes with straw or paper which would be paraded house to house then burned on the fire. Contrary to the video, this is something else common in my childhood that I've not seen in many years.
There is still one in Llandudno every summer, well worth a watch.
The last time I saw one was when they had a convention at the end of Southend pier.
Last I saw one was about 14 years ago: still a "little village" thing sometimes....
Covent Garden has a regular show
We have Morris dancers near us, they perform on carnival day (1st Saturday in July) and at dawn on the 1st July.
The Maypole festival was originally a fertility festival, with the pole being a phallic symbol
In Newfoundland Canada we celebrate bonfire night. It is becoming less common but when I was growing up it was huge. The bonfire would begin to be set up a week or two in advance. No one was concerned about the environment back then so we would burn anything that was unwanted. Old tires were always a part of it because they would burn for so long. We would roast marshmallows and wieners over the fire . We didn’t do the fireworks tho. We also have Christmas crackers in Canada. 😊
They missed out two of the more dangerous ones ...
Burning barrels in Ottery St Mary, Devon - involves carrying burning barrels through the streets.
Silver Ball in St Column Major, Cornwall - involves battling the other team to carry a small silver ball to a town boundary; hundreds of players and no rules. The whole town gets boarded up.
A puppet play that would have featured a version of Punch was first recorded in England in May 1662 by the diarist Samuel Pepys. He noted seeing it in Covent Garden, London, performed by the Italian puppet showman Pietro Gimonde from Bologna, otherwise known as Signor Bologna.
Many of the older of these traditions wouldn't have transfered from here to the US, as they would have been frowned upon by the religious loonies that sailed to America in the seventeenth century!
Those same religious loonies who came from here anyway...?
The welsh tradition with the white horse entering your house to bring good luck is similar to something done in Scotland for Hogmanay (new years eve)
except that for Hogmanay people will visit their neighbours, equipped with a piece of coal and a coin in their pocket, and a bottle (usually whiskey or vodka) - to bring good luck, warmth and wealth to the house, and will be greeted with a drink and hot food - traditionally Stovies (mashed potato with corned beef), haggis or other hot snacks.
After visiting each house, you have had a couple of fingers of whiskey served by the household, and given out a round to everyone in the house from your bottle, then you move on to the next house, until you can't go on any more 🙂
It is also known as 'First Footing" - my Dad & his mates used to do this every year, someone would go outside before midnight, so they could knock the door once all the church bells & fireworks have gone off, to be the 'first foot' inside the door for the new year - and of course it's a great excuse for Scots everywhere to have a good drink
I think it dates back to the pre-Roman, Celtic traditions around offering hospitality to visitors or strangers who appear at your doorstep - offering food, drink & warmth
Up until today, I thought a Punch and Judy show was normal😂😂 Now I’m a bit creeped out 😮
Same. Never really thought about the subject matter from the point of view of an adult not desensitised to it.
A bit like most fairy tales, try reading the Brothers Grimm
@@stephenlee5929 Grimm is for the weak, try Andersen... 😂😂😂😂
@@solaccursio I own Anderson 😁 It’s very brilliant.
Think about cartoons like 'Tom & Jerry', 'Wiley Coyote & the Road Runner', 'Popeye' (beating Bluto) or even 'slapstick' comedy such as the Three Stooges or even British pantomimes... Lot's of violence but kids and adults love it... 😎😂
1 for sorrow,2 for joy .3 for a girl .4 for a boy .5 for silver .6 for gold 7 for a secret never to be told.
I do that you count many Magpie s you see together .there was a show called Magpie , in the verse in nursery rhyme book no bird name is said
Morris dancing is the English secret martial art, like eskrima stick fighting in other countries. It's like fight club; if you ask, there is no such thing as Morris stick fighting. They will laugh and deny it, but you try and mug a Morris dancer and they'll give pretty much anyone a bad time.
Similar to ecky thump, which uses black pudding I believe.
You dont know much about morris dancing ,so its nonsence what you have quoted!
@@lawomega1 That's what they want you to think. ;)
Worked with a Morris dancers and have been to some training sessions myself, he reckoned not considered a proper MD until you had broken a finger in a stick dance.
I've been saying 'Hello Mr Magpie and how's your lady wife?' For 51 years 😂 I'm not adding children now 😂
Punch and Judy come from Italy from the 1600’s originally.
I think there is still a Punch and Judy on Llandudno seaside front near the pier
Britain didn't conquer countries, Britain conkered them :)
William the Conker
i used to like crushing conkers and say i was conquering the conker
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Conkers! Great fun and truly beautiful natural objects. The nut of the magnificent horse chestnut tree (a personal favourite!). They could be prepared by baking, pickling in vinegar, and other means. If you had a new conker and beat someone else's it became a 'oner', if it defeated a conker that had beaten five others, it would be promoted to a 'sixer', and so on, adding the kills of another as it went along, until it was finally defeated itself. The 'sport' involved a fair number of painfully bruised knuckles.
Punch & Judy shows were common at seaside resorts & children loved them, & some are still around. It's all very violent, but funny at the same time. Children love this sort of thing, remember the Tom & Jerry cartoon shows etc. kids are not afraid of this mock violence, but they love it. A Magpie is a type of large & noisy crow, black & white in colour, which it is the custom to salute & talk to when met. It is bad luck not to do so. There is a poem about this, which, counting the number of these birds seen together, starts 'One for sorry, two for joy, three for girl, four for a boy', & so on. Posh is just what Americans call 'fancy'. Strangely enough, people used to dress well for particular events, such as Church attendance on Sunday, hence your best clothes are known as 'Sunday Best'. It is the British meaning of smart, well dressed, not clever as in the US. One is 'smart' in a military uniform etc. All other attire is called casual, for any respectable event one should dress smartly, casual wear is only for relaxation & recreation.
Maypole dancing was occasionally banned because of association with pagan festivals, especially by Puritan regimes, like Cromwell's, who disapproved of people enjoying themselves. Occasionally such festivities could descend into riots etc, which gave an excuse to stop them. Morris Dancing is a sort of sword dance, & goes back many centuries.
It is called Morris from the Moors of north Africa, because often the dancers were painted
in black face make up, though what the connection is is lost to time. Bonfire night celebrates defeating the terrorist plot to blow up the King etc, not celebrating Guy Fawkes himself, for he is the villain that is burnt on the fire.
The Mari Lwyd tradition, originating from Wales, has indeed been celebrated in parts of the Americas. Notably, there have been instances of its celebration in Chicago and Philadelphia. In Chicago, the Welsh expats group known as the Chicago Tafia has incorporated the Mari Lwyd into their pre-Christmas festivities, particularly during pub crawls. The tradition was introduced in Chicago by the group's chief organizer, David Parry, who created a Mari Lwyd figure in 2019. Since then, it has become a regular feature in their annual Festivus pub crawl.
Similarly, in Philadelphia, the Mari Lwyd tradition was introduced and celebrated by local groups, including some dressed in 17th-century costume. The event involved collaboration with local historical and cultural groups and was marked by the presence of the Mari Lwyd at Christmas folk fairs in the city center. The organizers distributed pamphlets explaining the history and significance of the tradition to the public, alongside performances of traditional Pwnco songs. The initiative aimed to promote Welsh heritage in the area and hoped to make it an annual event.
Magpies: my version is, 'Good morning/afternoon, Mrs Magpie. I hope you and your children are well'.
In the Mari Llewd thing the people with the horse will essentially have an argument in song through the door, if you can't think of a response ypu have to let mari llewyd in, feed them and give them alcohol. They will rhen move on to the next house and the whole thing starts again
As I understand it they are partial to a mince pie along with their mug of wassail
I've always known the Magpie rhyme as One for luck, Two for joy, Three for a girl, Four for a boy.
Tyler, One the Magpie ryme
One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret,
Never to be told.
However, there are a number of alternative versions and a longer rhyme which is local to Lancashire counts up to 13 magpies with an additional 6 lines:
Eight for a wish,
Nine for a kiss,
Ten a surprise you should be careful not to miss,
Eleven for health,
Twelve for wealth,
Thirteen beware it’s the devil himself.
The earliest version of the rhyme was recorded in 1780 in a note in John Brand’s Observations on Popular Antiquities.
I'm in my 60s now and still salute a single bird.
One for sorrow. Two for joy. Three for a girl. Four for a boy. Five for silver. Six for gold. Seven for a secret never to be told.
That's as far as I know. My grandma insisted on saluting lone magpies.
I was born in the late 1940's in Glamorgan county, Wales, UK and emigrated to Toronto (pronounced "Torawna" by Torontonians) Canada in the mid-1950's with my immediate family.
I don't recall, as a very young child, the Mari Lwyd man dressed in a horse skull and sheet visiting our Welsh home. My mother, born in Wales in the early 1920's, had told me of different Welsh customs and she NEVER mentioned the weird Mari Lwyd tradition. I get the feeling Mari Lwyd was a thing of the past by the time I was born.
Conkers...WOW! I don't remember Conkers in Wales but seeing the video of the kids playing Conkers, did bring back the memory of of my playing Conkers (although we didn't call it Conkers) in the school yard in Toronto (circa the late1950's to the early 1960's). The idea of our game was to have our favourite chestnut, tied onto a shoestring, smash to pieces another boy's chestnut, also on a shoestring, until his chestnut was entirely on the ground in many pieces. Then move on with my winning chestnut and destroy another boy's prized chestnut! Now I know why as a child I liked watching movies with gladiators fighting each other to the death...LOL!
Back in the day it was customary for kids to "make a guy" kind of like a scarecrow but with a lot more finesse, 🙄 we would raid the cupboards looking for old clothes etc then go to a pre designated spot, plonk our Guy down and start hollering "penny for the Guy" usually about a week before "bommy night" we made a fortune 😂😂😂😂
One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret never to be told,
Eight for a wish,
Nine for a kiss,
Ten a surprise you should be careful not to miss,
Eleven for health,
Twelve for wealth,
Thirteen beware it's the devil himself,
Fourteen for love,
Fifteen for a dove,
Sixteen for the chime of a bell,
Seventeen for the angels protection,
Eighteen to be safe from hell,
Nineteen to be safe from a crime,
Twenty to end this rhyme.
Thanks
Hiya Tyler, I wasn't a fan of Punch and Judy when I was little, I thought it was violent also, a British tradition you should react to is Gurning, its done at Egremont crab fayre, Egremont Crab fayre started in 1216, you'll be mildly amused by it I should think, this is Choppy in Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
Back in the late ‘60’s and the early’70’s on British tv there wasn’t a lot of programming for children but amongst the little there was, the undeniable best that we did have was a magazine program on the BBC called Blue Peter which is still being produced, the independent tv channels decided that they wanted to put out their own version of the programme and for some strange reason they named their offering MAGPIE and they used the rhyme for their signature tune. For some time the two programmes were transmitted in direct opposition and some families had arguments about which channel they were going to watch. Eventually the public grew tired of the offering and the ITV programme was cancelled. As a result there’s a whole segment of the British public who if they hear the rhyme or see a flock of magpies they will join in with the chant, without thinking about it.
The number of magpies you see at one time supposedly predicts your luck. I was brought up in a small English village, and have seen or taken part in all of these except Mari Lwyd and cheese rolling (I've also performed in a mummers play, which would have been a fine addition to the list). I'm amazed pantomime didn't make the list - you should really explore that eccentric British custom (there's a video explaining it at ruclips.net/video/KtRTxVIl150/видео.html )
Like how you think punch and Judy is violent but wouldn’t think twice about Tom and Jerry which is only less shocking because they are animals
@TribalMatriarch I got involved in an argument about that once. I suggested to a mate of mine that T & J was violent and he hotly dismissed it and said it wasn't. So I said "The characters hitting each other with baseball bats and flat irons, and dropping bowling balls on each other isn't violent?"
@@RobCrossgrove-p7dalthough there is a good episode of the Simpsons where marge gets concerned how violent itchy and scratchy are getting and then complains completely ruining the show
I really enjoyed Punch and Judy when I was a kid. It just seemed very silly and outrageous.
If you see one magpie that is supposed to presage sorrow / bad luck while if you see two it is supposed to indicate joy / good luck. Then there's a whole rhyme with 3 indicating a girl (baby)and 4 a boy etc
You reactions to some of these really had me crying with laughter, keep up the good work Tyler 🤣
Mummering and the hobby horse is a tradition in province of Newfoundland and Labrador Canada, which was brought over by the settlers from the British Isles, which still goes on today
Punch and Judy shows are a traditional seaside thing for the kids in the UK, although the traditional story line is a little brutal with wife beating, murder and a hanging. The Punch and Judy show has roots in the 16th-century Italian commedia dell'arte. The figure of Punch is derived from the Neapolitan stock character of Pulcinella, which was anglicized to Punchinello.😱
Yep although these days as often as not Mr punch ends up getting eaten by the crocodile rather than hung
Have to say, haven't seen Morris dancing in Australia yet, I'm not dead yet so there's stills to see it
Maypole dancing was banned in 1636, after THE MAYDAY MASSACRE.When the entire village of Drunkham-under- the-Table was horrifically strangled to death while Maypole dancing after an absinthe binge
Conkers. They bring back memories. Health and safety might have something to say nowadays because I remember bits flying off at speed in all directions when I was a kid.
There are 2 horse race tracks within a 10 mile radius of where I live. One of them I pass almost daily for work - in the racing season there is a meeting every couple of weeks - they do have different days - and some days and events can be a little more casual but still decent attire is expected - ladies day is when you will see a variety of hats - and is more formal - although some take the day out a little too far. There are often the races followed by some entertainment in the evening - not been for a while, but the last one I went to was the race meeting followed by Billy Ocean giving a bit of a sing.
Punch and Judy does sound strange when he puts it like that , had me crying with laughter that did ..
Who can forget the poignancy of the Punch and Just Shows at every seaside resort,3 times a day, during the Summer Holiday Season? All of us kids sat in front of the mini Theatre and waited for the characters. On came Mr.Plod: The Policeman to a chorus of boos followed by a couple of scary Clowns and then, to a crescendo of Boos and Jeers came "Judy". Roared on by an eager, enthusiastic group of kids, Punch would go to work and send the clowns packing. Mr Plod soon followed and then came Judy. Within moments of the cheers began, Punch was swinging his stick and beat up Judy, badly. When the cheering died down, Punch left to a mini ovation. Judy got patched up and we returned for the 1,00pm Special Show. Happy Innocent Days..
The oldest horse race track is in the historic Roman city of Chester in the nw of England, worth watching a video on Chester.
The Roodee. Used to go a lot, finance stops me now. Lovely day out.
Missed out clog dancing. A tradition originating from the wooden clogs worn by factory workers. It is also an Appalachian USA tradition.
As a british person I forgot about punch and judy, this video brings back some nostalgia
The magpie rhyme has been made into a folk song by The Unthanks. There is a big folk dance festival,
Wimborne Minster Folk Festival. Most folk music festivals in the UK will have Morris sides dancing or even doing workshops, also Ceilidh dancing which is a Scottish tradition.I guess the US folk dance would be line dancing, street dance or rockabilly 🤷🏼♀️. We did maypole dancing at school once it was great fun. There are a few Easter traditions that might be a bit odd like decorating Easter bonnets and chicken eggs and Easter egg hunts (usually chocolate eggs). We do have a lot of odd traditions and some are only specific to certain towns and villages, so could even be seen as odd by other Brits.
I am British and have grown up with most of these traditions & I can honestly say that listening to them being explained i was laughing as they do indeed sound insane 😂😂
The Magpie rhyme is very common. I don't think many people believe it anymore but it's just I e if those things you say and do now whenever you see one. "One for sorrow" means if you see one Magpie on its own some sorrow us coming your way, while "Two for joy" means joy or good luck is coming your way. "3 for a girl, 4 for a boy", was supposed to tell you if you were going to have a girl or a boy baby, and so on.
The cheese rolling competitions are great fun to watch. What you don't normally see is the amount of ambulances and paramedics waiting at the bottom. I gladly pay my taxes for the free healthcare to look after these folks. One day I might have a go, but I better do it soon or I'll end up breaking a hip any never recovering. :D
With the Maypole, one the ribbons get to the bottom, you have to reverse it and untangle it all
Magpies are Corvids, along with crows, ravens, rooks, jays, jackdaws, and choughs. They are very distinctive black and white birds and all are regarded as highly intelligent in the bird world. The superstitions around meeting them in different numbers gave birth to the old rhyme:
"One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret,
Never to be told."
In some parts (Lancashire, for one) it goes on;
"Eight for a wish,
Nine for a kiss,
Ten a surprise you should be careful not to miss,
Eleven for health,
Twelve for wealth,
Thirteen beware it’s the devil himself"
Ah, life may have been simpler in those days but there were still dangers around!
Hi Tyler, There are several names for a collective of Magpies
. My favourite is a 'Mischief' of Magpies
2:10 as a British person I can confirm I have seen this in real life multiple times, and recently as well
Punch & Judy was found on seaside beaches every summer going back many many moons ago.. kids loved it.. you don't see them 9n many beaches now but it was great entertainment for kids when your grandma was a kid
In Switzerland we have Chasperli and Robber Hotzenplotz :))
I watched Punch And Judy shows many times on the beach as a child and these days have watched them with my grandchildren from time to time at the seaside/
You hit the other persons conker until you miss - then they hit yours - the winner is the one who breaks the others conker
Tyler, my hometown is a little seaside resort. A couple of summers back I did see Punch and Judy on the promenade. So it's still on the go. But I didnt stay to see what mayhem was performed.
It isn't allowed to tamper with a conker ! That's the rules, hit the "nut" as you put it, and break the other person's conker before they get yours ! 😂
I know someone who got grounded when he got caught trying to steal some wood varnish so he could cheat at conkers 😂😂😂
@@cfawcett9870 It got out of hand at our school 😂 boys using their mum's nail varnish, or putting them in the oven , then H&S set in the late 90s made it banned in a lot of schools! Unless supervised by adults and you need to wear eye protection 🤨😅
Punch and Judy is a right of passage. When I was a child it was a must at the seaside. We laughed like drains at it, it's not the least bit scary. You need to watch with the soundtrack to appreciate it. Never made us violent, but I'm of a generation that knew the difference between real life and artificial.💗👵🏴🌹🌹
Hey Tyler. None of this is confusing when you consider the age of a lot of British customs. Most of what you see here has its roots in very ancient Pagan traditions. Some so old , that the full meanings are lost to time. We're talking thousands of years,... but as we're such an old Country, we're quite in tune with our old traditions, and the Old Ways, and although these customs are now a fun, or interesting anachronism to most folk looking in on us, you wont have to go far to see even the most modern of Brits carrying on old superstitions, or customs without even really thinking about what they're doing, or why. I personally think its beautiful to have and upkeep such obscure traditions. :) Love your reactions, and the channel. x
Magpie rhyme was based on a children's TV programme (called Magpie) in 70's, the bird shown as a magpie with a grey back was a Hooded Crow.
MAGPIE.
Count the number of birds and compare it to the rhyme.
1 FOR SORROW
2 FOR JOY
3 FOR A GIRL
4 FOR A BOY
5 FOR SILVER
6 FOR GOLD
7 FOR A SECRET , NEVER TO BE TOLD.
The picture shown is a SWEET CHESTNUT and not a HORSE CHESNUT. The outer coatings are very different ! HORSE CHESTNUTS only contain 1 nut !
Conkers have been banned in schools now.
Hardening a conker is considered cheating in the sport !
We always pull the crackers before we start eating our Christmas dinner.
The PLOT is NOT celebrated !! It's the fact that he was CAUGHT that is celebrated. That's why there's a GUY on top of the bonfire.
The Magpie one can be different depending where it is in England. The one I know is counting the magpies to see what you get hence. "One for sorrow, two for joy. Three for a girl and four for a boy. Five for silver, six for gold. Seven for a secret, never to be told" As you'd normally never see more than seven Magpies. As for the words to say when you see a single Magpie, we'd say "Morning Major".
He must have been promoted because I knew it as ‘Good morning, Captain’.
Punch and Judy show, remember seeing them at school fetes when I was a kid in the '60's
Hi. Although conkers are technically a nut, outside of a Mojo video or a botany lesson, they're never referred to as a nut. They're only ever called conkers. And if an opponents conker hits your knuckles, it can bloody hurt! You can get conkers by throwing sticks up into the Horse chestnut tree in the autumn and knocking down the ripe "fruit", or you can just pick up the already fallen ones off the ground. The bigger they are, the better.
As far as I know, (I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong), the coming of spring has been celebrated by just about every civilisation throughout history, (it's just a shame the USA doesn't have much history to speak of). It's basically a fertility rite, to make the crops grow and animals to successfully mate. Mayday is a public holiday in the UK. As far as I know, Mayday is to honour the Roman goddess Maya, and the Maypole itself represents, err, THE male member (nudge nudge wink wink).
Here's the video with sound that they were showing in the Mojo clip. You can hear the bells and the music.
ruclips.net/video/sArAC2_ow2k/видео.html
Punch and Judy is in France as well. See the movie Charade with Cary Grant .
Magpies.... I only know 1 for sorrow, 2 for joy, 3 for a girl and 4 for a boy, 5 for silver, 6 for gold and 7 is a secret never told. But if you see 1 magpie and say " Hello Mr. Magpie, how is your hat?" the bad luck won't get you
whenever we went to the seaside as a child there would always be a punch and judy show on the promenade or sometimes on the beach. Not as often these days but you do still find them popping up from time to time.
What a coincidence, about half an hour before watching this looking out the window and 2 pagpies appeared
There’s Punch and Judy shows in the summer where I live. Always popular 😀
We've all seen Punch and Judy, usually at the beach. That's the way to do it!
Morris Dancing originally came from Portugal and James the 6th of Scotland brought it to Scotland and took his own Court Troop with him when he Became The King of England and it spread from there :)
Punch and Judy - I'm 59 and yes, I've seen real Punch and Judy puppet shows, I must say more in my youth than recently
We say Good morning Mr Magpie three times, maybe it's a London thing
Curious that in discussing conkers, ie inedible horse chestnuts, the accompanying image is of regular old chestnuts, of the kind roasted on an open fire, to quote the old song, to prepare them for eating!
There used to be a Punch and Judy show on every major beach in the country when I was a kid in the 50s and 60s. Children used to gather round the show booth and when there were enough the show began. We probably paid a few old pennies to watch.
Do Punch & Judy shows still exist? Probably but with Mr Punch attending an anger management session in each performance, the policeman only coming out of the station to catch motorists doing 31mph in a buillt-up-area, the crododile no longer participating after its re-wilding programme, and Toby the dog having to make do with vegan sausages! (Social Services took the baby long ago, btw.)
First of all, loved your reactions Tyler,especially to the Punch and Judy and Welsh tradition!😂😂 We still have a Punch and Judy show in the local resort town near me,on the seafront. It’s horrible! Stuff nightmares are made of. Poor kids!😬😂 As for the white horse,”You wouldn’t let it in”🤣 I have a pair of magpies living in the trees by me. Always salute if there’s only one!
It's only horrible in the context of modern life. Kids love a bit of horror and gore.
Who can forget the poignancy of the Punch and Just Shows at every seaside resort,3 times a day, during the Summer Holiday Season? All of us kids sat in front of the mini Theatre and waited for the characters. On came Mr.Plod: The Policeman to a chorus of boos followed by a couple of scary Clowns and then, to a crescendo of Boos and Jeers came "Judy". Roared on by an eager, enthusiastic group of kids, Punch would go to work and send the clowns packing. Mr Plod soon followed and then came Judy. Within moments of the cheers began, Punch was swinging his stick and beat up Judy, badly. When the cheering died down, Punch left to a mini ovation. Judy got patched up and we returned for the 1,00pm Special Show. Happy Innocent Days..
Guy Fawkes night is not like in the U.S. where people get a day off. Life goes on as usual.
I have seen a Punch and Judy show, it is actually based on an Italian character, Punchinella, who was a character of the Comedia Dell'arte in the 17th century, but adopted in the UK when he company toured here a little later.
Magpie,
One for sorrow,
two for Joy,
one for a girl and
two for a boy.
The worst effects of seeing one can be offset by hte phrase "hello Mr Magpie, how's the wife.
The maypole is basically a phallic symbol. The ritual is for fertility, hence the occasional ban by religious people, as it could lead to sexual experiences.
There are many variations on Morris Dancing , one used club like sticks whis represent swords and is a formalistic war dance.
Bonfire night is to celebrate the failure of the Gunpowder plotters.
In former times, fairs and traditional gatherings could be outlawed if the authorities suspected that they would become a focus for unrest.
Perhaps you should search for a video of bonfire night in Ottery St Mary,Devon England, where they run through the town with flaming tar barrels on their backs…
‘Morris Dancing’ me: 👀 are they going to show the faces
we have ladies day at ascot, where there is a hat competition, some of them are crazy.
sometimes brits still greet covids, a nod and good day, or doff your hat if you have one, i know people who do this, but dont get why exept ravens are synonimous with graveyards. everyone from genx and before knows the ryme, 3 for a girl 4 for a boy, as a small child i was woried i may have a baby and have to look after it, even at 5 i realised they couldnt make thier mind up.
conkers are banned in most schools, you cant play through the cotton wool
EVERYONE in Britain knows about the old rhyme about magpies! "One for sorrow - two for joy - three for a girl - and four for a boy - five for silver - six for gold - seven for a secret, ready to be told!" It refers to whatever number of magpies you might happen to encounter while out in the countryside or park. If you only see one on its own, it's supposed to mean bad luck (unless you counter it by saying "Hello Mr. Magpie! How's your wife and children?"). If you come across two together, it means good luck! Seeing three means a girl is on the way - or a boy if you see four. Likewise, seeing five together means silver - while six means gold. And if you see seven magpies in a group, it means a secret you've been keeping is now ready to be told at last!