@@TheProdigyB3AST He's very much wrong in my opinion. Durk doesnt have the lyricism, projects, skills as a producer, and especially feature runs that Cole has had and also hasnt had enough time to establish his legacy as much as Cole has
Also ngl, Nas verse on that Bieber cut was still better than 80% of the pop collabs in recent years. I still wake up in a sweat over that Kendrick/Taylor Swift shit
I feel like I enjoy Nicki’s pop shit way more than her rap shit. Aside from her Monster verse, she hasn’t really had any stand out rap performances in my opinion.
@@mickey10jb80yeah that’s why when she first came out the gate she really showed tf outta her skill with the pure rap mixtapes but yeah mainstream did get poppy
Bro really said “KOD is better than Scorpion as an album” and “The Off Season is better than CLB”, but then ALSO SAID “You don’t think Durk is better than Cole? Go die.” NIGGA WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?! The Cole hate is so crazy that it literally doesn’t make any sense.
If I had not much else to listen to I might go back nd listen to a Cole album but since FHD Cole’s album continuity eludes him. It’s like he doesn’t get how to make an album flow since then. KOD has plenty skips but NONE of Durk or Drakes albums compare RAPPING wise
J Cole fans have propelled Cole to be this top 10 rapper when he is nowhere near that caliber at this point in time. He’s gotten way better rapping wise in the last few years but his catalogue is not that substantial to be saying he’s top 5 or top 10. It’s MADNESS.
@@Ijbvfknnn I don’t think Cole has dropped an album on par with any of Nas, Em’s, or Pac’s best. I have shifted my opinion a bit on this just because Cole’s improvement to last few years is definitely something to commend, but as an album guy I’m just not putting Cole there.
@@artheals8869 I would agree with that. Forrest hills drive is a classic album though, and nas and pac have a lot of mid music, I still 100% think that.
I feel like Biggie and Pac making weird features had they lived is a moot point because their estates have put out the weirdest ass posthumous material for two decades and people still love them.
If Cole just would stop going over his own fucking beats and included a more interesting musical palette, I’d listen to his music past the first listen more
Huge argument people will make tho is that he's tarnished what he once was with his excessive corniness, noone doubts his impact, but Em seriously doesn't know how to "bury the hatchet" with non-lyricism focused rap artists and culture.
@@Cohen- corny or not tho, he’s both one of the best selling and most technical rappers of all time, pretty much every rapper has him in their top 5. Genuinely showed how technical tap could have mainstream appeal and go #1
@@Cohen- Regardless whenever he does something the impact is crazy. When he dropped kamikaze which I wasn't a fan of. He took over hip hop for like 3 months. And that was way into his 40s. So the impact which was a criteria is crazy still to this day
@@brandonayong5823 I'd argue the reason it appeared he "took off" was because the controversy it stirred, and creating controversy isn't something I'd necessarily link to "taking over" so to speak. It's fair to see the impact it might have but it's also important to understand why it was being spread so much. I'd argue music to be murdered by is a better example to prove your point
@@Cohen- Well I actually think music to be murdered by is a much better record than kamikaze but it didn't really get attention like that which is a shame. I think it's his best album in 10 years
Tell me one artist that impacted the west coast more than Ice Cube. Ice Cube literally put west coast hip-hop on the map; without his contributions to NWA, Ruthless records and Death Row records wouldn't even exist because folks wouldn't have paid attention to NWA in the mainstream. 50 Cent being put over Ice Cube is kinda disrespectful, to be real. You can make the argument that 50 Cent and Ice Cube are tied for hits, but Ice Cube beats him in every other category.
@@lordbauer5983 maybe not his absolute catchiest, even though it is definitely up there, but the way the beat gradually changes and grows over the track is imo a lot more adventurous and fleshed out than the vast majority of his beats and in terms of drake lyrics about women, it's one of the few outside his most straightforward love songs that doesn't feel simpy, whiny, condescending or passive aggressive at all, i also think the samples were utilized way more effectively than on for instance in my feelings (which is still great but feels way more chill and way less ambitious)
Bro u could say the same thing he said about cole about Kendrick. Sure there’s songs on tpab that I wouldn’t play at a party or in the car but that does not justify drake being ranked higher than him
As a lyricist, absolutely, without question in the top 5, but the criteria on this list included commercial success etc. DOOM was always more of a ’those who know, know’ artist. One of the goats for sure though.
Kendrick does not have a bad album, all of them are bangers(yes with mmatbs yall sleeping on it cus yall havent heard kendrick for 5 years so you expected some life changing shit), i dont see why you cant place him at 2. Especially with tpab which might be the best album ever
@@Stinkfly300 And Drake puts out every piece of trash song him and his ghost writers write up for him. It's about quality, not quantity. I'd rather wait for an artistic, deep, curated record full of heart and soul than whatever Drake is doing now.
@@waketp420 no it’s about both quality and quantity. Key word: BOTH which Kendrick lacks. Quality is better then quantity for sure but quantity matters a lot and Drake is obviously worse then Kendrick. Don’t know why you stated that like it wasn’t common knowledge
Shawn confuses me, he says he likes J.Cole and then shits on him the next sentence….J.Cole definitely deserves to be on the list, now whether he’s 15 is debatable, but C’mon now Shawn and you did a best rapper list and put Cole in ya list
@@robintetrisfax man I like Cole but he always got the same monotone flow, and listening to his songs is forgettable. It’s why people listened to the off season and then forgot about it 😂
Jay at #1 is one of those things where you can defend it and it makes sense and probably objectively "correct" but actually doing it and admitting it feels wrong somehow.
its crazy how kanye literally doesn't have a bad album after 2 decades, scratch that, up until Ye had dropped like ten classics in a row and yet people still leave him off top 5s/10s for rapping cause oh he doesnt bar up. bro kanye is literally just as good a rapper as jayz. the man has hella verses with hella bars but people act like he goes full carti on the mic. thats cap. even tlop which isnt a very rap heavy album has no more parties and saint pablo.
@@mickey10jb80 with great rappers like jayz people always struggle to be a feature with him on songs bec jay overshines them but ye made a whole collab album and his present way as strong as jayz. as a rapper kanye really wasnt way worse then jay. also ye has top 2 delivery after pac in my book
@@bruh1519 by the time they made that collab album Jay was out of his prime. I believe Jays best rapping years were late 90s and early 2000s. Like 96-03. I think after that he started to rely more on features and his rapping declined. I think if you compare prime Jays rapping to prime Kanye, there is no question who is actually a better rapper
@@bruh1519 my point is prime JayZ vs prime Kanye, JayZ is the better rapper. JayZ last album had more important topics and substance than his in the past but I'm talking rapping ability. That wasn't his prime. Not saying it was bad but I'm speaking of both rappers in their prime.
Greatness pac discog ye influence ye impact eminem flow biggie lyrics jayz punchlines lil wayne storytelling kendrick versatile ye delivery pac so best rapper imo is jayz but best artist def kanye west (if u say to me that he has writest think about making beats and writing most of ur raps for ur album is way harder then writing raps) also he always makes new sounds so he needs to come up with new ideas and sounds people never heard of. he is not making the same gansta rap album like the half of the people on the list. when it comes to making albums and u have to bet all ur money for the album to be good u are choosing ye
But who made better music? That’s what it comes down to really. You can be a better “rapper” lyrically, at the end of the day it doesn’t make the music better unless you understand this
Why Sean acting like he didn’t use to eat off that j Cole McDonald’s 1 dollar menu back in the days I remember long time fan 😂😂men trying to gaslight us with the slander
I feel like the best kind of song is deep, but it also is sonically good enough to just enjoy without really taking it all in. Like if a song can bump, but also if you want you can delve deeper and really pull back the layers and get into what the track is saying, that’s what makes an incredible song. And by depth I don’t always mean like serious, MF DOOM has a lot of lyrical depth but I can also just vibe to his music if I want. Hey Ya to me is a great example where it works as a pop song, but it’s also super interesting lyrically and with its themes. I think Middle Child is a great example of Cole doing both, and it’s a really unique topic for a song. That’s just my general opinion
I took me a second to understand what he meant about the Cole vs drake argument. He’s was saying for drake 90% of his album will usually be 3/10 except for that 10% being 9/10 catchy hits. But cole album will be a constant 6-7/10 maybe even 8/10
@@bruh1519 Who cares? She’s an icon. She’s the most successful female artist and broke barriers. I’m not even a nicki stan but I can give credit where credit is due. Everyone knows atleast 3 Nicki songs, her look and voice is instantly recognizable. Whatever one sided beef you have with Nicki doesn’t change the facts sorry!
Cole definitely better than pusha T and scarface when it comes to impact and influence. Half these rappers that aren’t mumble rap have taken from jcole’s book
Nah you gotta be young. I’m wit you on pusha t but please do your googles on FACE🙌🏾I mean that with all due respect he’s dropped classics for 4 decades both solo and with the geto boys. In 91 he changed the ways cats rapped sorta like Nas did.
Missy is not annihilating Nicki Minaj cmon now. I was entering high school as she was starting to pop with her debut coming during my sophomore year. She was a straight force of nature. Mind you I couldn’t stand a majority of her music but her shidd was ringing off like crazy.
You should react to a few Nicki songs or features Nicki can rap way better than you know too many ppl don’t know her discography and judge her based off super bass and anaconda 🤦
Are rap songs supposed to be played at family events? The more pop rnb you go the more you can play them at family events. But when we're talking display of rap then you're prob not playing that with grandma bro. Sing about me, 4 your eyez only losing to one dance which isn't even a rap song is wild Shawn 🙌.
Rev Run from Run dmc being on this list as a solo artist would be alright I guess.. until I realized they left out both prodigy and havoc from Mobb Deep. GTFOH.
I genuinely believe In My Feelings was only big because of the tik tok dance. Every time that song comes on people associate it with the dance, even now. That song is the definition of mid. P.s I’m listening to KOD over I’m Upset EVERY SINGLE DAY of the week
Ngl snoop has got to be one of the most overrated rappers. He was pretty good in his heyday but man that man hasn't tried for like 25 years definitely effects how I see him, sure his baseline not trying is still pretty decent but like it's definitely something I'd say keeps them from being ranked too highly
Kanye has too many writers think about it that shows he doesn't even really believe in himself I can't listen or respect a rapper that can't write his own music
@@jiemelgould8664 when working on large albums yes it would make sense that he would have writers versus like through the wire Jesus Lord Saint Pablo no more parties in LA gorgeous new slaves were all written by him and those are considered his top verses
@roguee!BLU A rapper with writers is trash he will never be top 5 and you must be young to defend him real rapper will tell you the same .. When you A rapper your post to try to be the best it like a sport your post to compete and be creative and as a fan your post to hear there thoughts there mind not another man's that's no you rap that's someone else's thoughts coming out of your mouth that a fraud to the art a will never be respected as a real Mc I don't understand how u don't understand that . If that's your favorite rapper you should wanna hear how witty and creative they can get not someone else's you should listen to who wrote it then in that case
People love using longevity when it’s convenient to push their fav rapper. Em was a goat at his peek (easy top 5) but after all the hot ass he’s dropped, there’s no fucking way.
@@televisedpork7993She has some of the best verses of all time and Lauryn incorporates Rap on her music. If Lauryn ain't a rapper most new gen rappers are also not rappers.
Right Busta falls like 5 spots below a Snoop Dogg for me and both go somewhere between 20-35 top 50 all time. I understand why Snoop is so highly rated but nah
Where my man Big L at for sure the best rapper of all time. Half-A-Mil, Magnolia Slim, Little Simz, Guru, Willie D also deserve being on this list. Cole, 50 and Snoop being on this list at all is wild imo. No spanish rappers Canserbero is probably the best rapper of all time along with Lil Supa.
Snoop is a rap icon. His early stuff is amazing. He also carried one of the most iconic rap albums of all-time lyrically in the chronic. Doggy style is a classic, has loads of features. Also, even though he fell off in quality, he's been making music for 30+ years
Ti, Bun B, Gucci, Ludacris on the list but they left out your favorite trapper favorites trapper Jeezy.. wtf yo... Putting Andre on a list and not big boi is blasphemy
He really said Durk is better than Cole unironically 😭😭😭
Edit: Cole bodying durk on All My Life makes Shawn's take look even worse now
He’s not wrong tho…
@@TheProdigyB3AST He's very much wrong in my opinion. Durk doesnt have the lyricism, projects, skills as a producer, and especially feature runs that Cole has had and also hasnt had enough time to establish his legacy as much as Cole has
he is.
Yeah that was Crazy, but Durk definitely doesn't get the respect he deserves
@@The.rapist911 I jus know you haven’t heard cole
Also ngl, Nas verse on that Bieber cut was still better than 80% of the pop collabs in recent years. I still wake up in a sweat over that Kendrick/Taylor Swift shit
theres no way niggas be listening to Bad blood lmaoo
only people with genuiene acceptable Pop/rap Hits are Kanye, Em and drake
jhay z@@PICKLEEEJUICE
@@PICKLEEEJUICEwhat about Kendrick’s Black Panther
@@PICKLEEEJUICEFuture can make pop as well bro
I would love to see Nicki make a more purely rap album without all the pop filler.
Basically barbie dreams
For sure, her voices are really unique and cool to me. She just doesn’t use them
I feel like I enjoy Nicki’s pop shit way more than her rap shit. Aside from her Monster verse, she hasn’t really had any stand out rap performances in my opinion.
@@artheals8869 I'm biased because I'm not really a fan of pop rap. I like some pop music but not when it's rap.
@@mickey10jb80yeah that’s why when she first came out the gate she really showed tf outta her skill with the pure rap mixtapes but yeah mainstream did get poppy
“I’ve been in and out of lil Kim” was underrated
Bro really said “KOD is better than Scorpion as an album” and “The Off Season is better than CLB”, but then ALSO SAID “You don’t think Durk is better than Cole? Go die.” NIGGA WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?! The Cole hate is so crazy that it literally doesn’t make any sense.
Fax this nigga says he would rather listen to Drake's "hits" rather than j Cole and saying lil durk is better than j Cole... This nigga delusional fr
If I had not much else to listen to I might go back nd listen to a Cole album but since FHD Cole’s album continuity eludes him. It’s like he doesn’t get how to make an album flow since then. KOD has plenty skips but NONE of Durk or Drakes albums compare RAPPING wise
Spending 30 mins of J Cole hate to peak with the implication that CLB is a bigger cultural impact over off season both hurts and is hilarious
His argument failed when he pointed out the songs that are bigger/better aren’t cause of Drake. He just can’t admit he’s wrong lmao
J Cole fans have propelled Cole to be this top 10 rapper when he is nowhere near that caliber at this point in time. He’s gotten way better rapping wise in the last few years but his catalogue is not that substantial to be saying he’s top 5 or top 10. It’s MADNESS.
I love 2014 and 4YEO but everything else by him is mid at best imo, gets glazed way too much
Well Eminem is that argument but x10. You could say the same about nas, 2pac. A lot of greats have pretty mid catalogs
@@Ijbvfknnn I don’t think Cole has dropped an album on par with any of Nas, Em’s, or Pac’s best. I have shifted my opinion a bit on this just because Cole’s improvement to last few years is definitely something to commend, but as an album guy I’m just not putting Cole there.
@@artheals8869 I would agree with that. Forrest hills drive is a classic album though, and nas and pac have a lot of mid music, I still 100% think that.
@@artheals8869respect your opinion, but keep in mind compilation and greatest hits are not counted
the J Cole slander is getting out of hand
Him being above Scarface is a tragedy though
They like forgetting that j Cole has the song runaway which is far deeper better than any drake song.
deserved
@@mistaNME yh im not that big on jcole but him being top 50 shouldn’t be a surprise. I’d probably have in the 40s or something
Facts 😂💯acting like he ain’t been in the game 15 years
MF DOOM not cracking top 50 is crazy (unless he did and I'm fucking stupid).
pre sure they only had American rappers
@@rhysrodda2009fair enough but he did spend a lot of time in America though, but yeah he’s not an American citizen
@@rhysrodda2009Drake?
@@rhysrodda2009why is that a rule
@@rhysrodda2009no one classes mf doom as a actual uk rapper even though he was “born” there but he has no connection to uk culture at all
I feel like Biggie and Pac making weird features had they lived is a moot point because their estates have put out the weirdest ass posthumous material for two decades and people still love them.
If Cole just would stop going over his own fucking beats and included a more interesting musical palette, I’d listen to his music past the first listen more
Tweeking cole top
J Cole part has me hollering 😭😭
Missy has bars. Put some respect
Not an Em fan honestly but u can't deny him being top 5 (maybe even top 3) esp with how he took battle rap mainstream too
Huge argument people will make tho is that he's tarnished what he once was with his excessive corniness, noone doubts his impact, but Em seriously doesn't know how to "bury the hatchet" with non-lyricism focused rap artists and culture.
@@Cohen- corny or not tho, he’s both one of the best selling and most technical rappers of all time, pretty much every rapper has him in their top 5. Genuinely showed how technical tap could have mainstream appeal and go #1
@@Cohen- Regardless whenever he does something the impact is crazy. When he dropped kamikaze which I wasn't a fan of. He took over hip hop for like 3 months. And that was way into his 40s. So the impact which was a criteria is crazy still to this day
@@brandonayong5823 I'd argue the reason it appeared he "took off" was because the controversy it stirred, and creating controversy isn't something I'd necessarily link to "taking over" so to speak. It's fair to see the impact it might have but it's also important to understand why it was being spread so much. I'd argue music to be murdered by is a better example to prove your point
@@Cohen- Well I actually think music to be murdered by is a much better record than kamikaze but it didn't really get attention like that which is a shame. I think it's his best album in 10 years
Tell me one artist that impacted the west coast more than Ice Cube. Ice Cube literally put west coast hip-hop on the map; without his contributions to NWA, Ruthless records and Death Row records wouldn't even exist because folks wouldn't have paid attention to NWA in the mainstream. 50 Cent being put over Ice Cube is kinda disrespectful, to be real. You can make the argument that 50 Cent and Ice Cube are tied for hits, but Ice Cube beats him in every other category.
Agreed.
nwa put west coast hip hop on the map
This man slandered J.cole for 40 straight minutes
17:00
Love the J Cole slander😂
Lmao “he at the house being bi racial and his neighbors think he selling dope” 😵
Crazy how underrated Nice For What is, maybe his best written single ever, in terms of arrangement at least
Lol
Ain’t even Top 3 on singles
@@lordbauer5983 maybe not his absolute catchiest, even though it is definitely up there, but the way the beat gradually changes and grows over the track is imo a lot more adventurous and fleshed out than the vast majority of his beats and in terms of drake lyrics about women, it's one of the few outside his most straightforward love songs that doesn't feel simpy, whiny, condescending or passive aggressive at all, i also think the samples were utilized way more effectively than on for instance in my feelings (which is still great but feels way more chill and way less ambitious)
"HIGH SCHOOL PICS YOU WAS EVEN BAD THEN"
THATS NOT HIP HOP
Saying Lauryn Hill is hard to be considered a rapper is CRAZY
But one dance can beat out 4 your eyez only in a rap conversation? That's insane for me especially considering one dance isn't even Hiphop.
Bro u could say the same thing he said about cole about Kendrick. Sure there’s songs on tpab that I wouldn’t play at a party or in the car but that does not justify drake being ranked higher than him
That wasn’t his point tho he said the highest highs were better and most replay value. Kendrick got songs
He literally did
DOOM would easily be top 20
Probably best ever... But not a billboard chart though
@@muleyamwiinga3988 no he wouldnt ion know what drugs u smoking but u must be the highest mf out there rn
As a lyricist, absolutely, without question in the top 5, but the criteria on this list included commercial success etc. DOOM was always more of a ’those who know, know’ artist. One of the goats for sure though.
dooms good but super overrated. He says shit just for it to rhyme, bro makes music just for people to make rhyme scheme vids and nothing else
@@shayxn opinions are subjective but you're just wrong hush
The j Cole slander is unreal
justified
@@bruh1519based on?
onggg
@@bruh1519 this mf said he shouldtn be top 50 are you slow
@@theultimatesaiyanrose9114he shouldnt even be top 50 but im cool with having him at 40 or whatever
Kendrick does not have a bad album, all of them are bangers(yes with mmatbs yall sleeping on it cus yall havent heard kendrick for 5 years so you expected some life changing shit), i dont see why you cant place him at 2. Especially with tpab which might be the best album ever
They were hoping for another TPAB and were mad when MMATBS came out.
Kendrick simply hasn't missed.
@@waketp420he takes too long to make shit. That’s Kendrick biggest flaw, he hasn’t missed cause he rarely shoots
@@Stinkfly300 And Drake puts out every piece of trash song him and his ghost writers write up for him.
It's about quality, not quantity.
I'd rather wait for an artistic, deep, curated record full of heart and soul than whatever Drake is doing now.
@@waketp420 no it’s about both quality and quantity. Key word: BOTH which Kendrick lacks. Quality is better then quantity for sure but quantity matters a lot and Drake is obviously worse then Kendrick. Don’t know why you stated that like it wasn’t common knowledge
kendrick lacks quality? bullshit@@Stinkfly300
Shawn confuses me, he says he likes J.Cole and then shits on him the next sentence….J.Cole definitely deserves to be on the list, now whether he’s 15 is debatable, but C’mon now Shawn and you did a best rapper list and put Cole in ya list
J cole is boring af ngl, all the rappers on this list better
Shawn's just a man with an opinion. Nothing makes his opinion more important or significant.
@@robintetrisfax man I like Cole but he always got the same monotone flow, and listening to his songs is forgettable. It’s why people listened to the off season and then forgot about it 😂
@@robintetrisit’s boring” is such a lazy weak argument tho
@@Stinkfly300same monotone flow is Cole? Bro that sounds like drake to me or gangstarr
Jay at #1 is one of those things where you can defend it and it makes sense and probably objectively "correct" but actually doing it and admitting it feels wrong somehow.
Talk for yourself lol. Half of your favourite rappers would agree with his position
Name some rapper's
@@Mic-100 Kendrick, Lil Wayne, Jid, Pusha, Drake, Ab soul, Conway, Lupe, Jadakiss etc.. these ones I mentioned all have Jay at #1.
Y’all got the lyrics all wrong. Jay says “ain’t no body fresher, I’m in mason martin margiela” hes talkin about being fly . 1:15:10
its crazy how kanye literally doesn't have a bad album after 2 decades, scratch that, up until Ye had dropped like ten classics in a row and yet people still leave him off top 5s/10s for rapping cause oh he doesnt bar up. bro kanye is literally just as good a rapper as jayz. the man has hella verses with hella bars but people act like he goes full carti on the mic. thats cap. even tlop which isnt a very rap heavy album has no more parties and saint pablo.
I like Kanye better than JayZ but he definitely does not have better bars or even close to JayZ
@@mickey10jb80 with great rappers like jayz people always struggle to be a feature with him on songs bec jay overshines them but ye made a whole collab album and his present way as strong as jayz. as a rapper kanye really wasnt way worse then jay. also ye has top 2 delivery after pac in my book
@@bruh1519 by the time they made that collab album Jay was out of his prime. I believe Jays best rapping years were late 90s and early 2000s. Like 96-03. I think after that he started to rely more on features and his rapping declined. I think if you compare prime Jays rapping to prime Kanye, there is no question who is actually a better rapper
Bro jayz dropped one of the hardest albums in 2017. And also he does not have to be in prime even he was still as good bec he is jayz bro
@@bruh1519 my point is prime JayZ vs prime Kanye, JayZ is the better rapper. JayZ last album had more important topics and substance than his in the past but I'm talking rapping ability. That wasn't his prime. Not saying it was bad but I'm speaking of both rappers in their prime.
Shawn's chat not knowing how to use context clues is funny as hell lmao
Lil Kim at 31… even with me being born in 87 this is too gawd damn low
J.Cole over DMX is mega crazy even for my friend John. (P.S He's a Cole fan)
WHERE IS LUPE WTF
ti and chance have two of the steepest drops in quality i've ever seen
WHERE IS BIG BOI?!
they had nicki at 10 dont even worry about their decision making
Greatness pac
discog ye
influence ye
impact eminem
flow biggie
lyrics jayz
punchlines lil wayne
storytelling kendrick
versatile ye
delivery pac
so best rapper imo is jayz but best artist def kanye west (if u say to me that he has writest think about making beats and writing most of ur raps for ur album is way harder then writing raps) also he always makes new sounds so he needs to come up with new ideas and sounds people never heard of. he is not making the same gansta rap album like the half of the people on the list. when it comes to making albums and u have to bet all ur money for the album to be good u are choosing ye
Completely agree
Eminem lol
IMO Biggie is pretty clear of Pac as a rapper. I consider 2Pac more of an activist than anything else.
Fact
Then why he jack pacs style for his debut album lol
Yea if this list was based solely on lyricism, people like big and pun would definitely be higher but this ain’t the list you thinking of
But who made better music? That’s what it comes down to really. You can be a better “rapper” lyrically, at the end of the day it doesn’t make the music better unless you understand this
the fact that Lupe Fiasco aint here is so crazy smh
On my life drake even being on the list is a mortal sin. I’m being a D1 hater ngl
I love Cole but Scar is a fucking goat
I can’t take anyone series if their favorite rapper is playboy carti
1. For your eyes only
2. Vile Mentality
3.Neibourgs
Y'all the reason MF DOOM aint up there is because this list is specifically talking about North America.
lol bro stop. Doom is not a uk rapper
@@Ijbvfknnn Yes he is.
@@holylucane9019 no he ain’t lol.
Shawn why you got on a whole blanket doing this 😂😂
Why Sean acting like he didn’t use to eat off that j Cole McDonald’s 1 dollar menu back in the days I remember long time fan 😂😂men trying to gaslight us with the slander
I feel like the best kind of song is deep, but it also is sonically good enough to just enjoy without really taking it all in. Like if a song can bump, but also if you want you can delve deeper and really pull back the layers and get into what the track is saying, that’s what makes an incredible song. And by depth I don’t always mean like serious, MF DOOM has a lot of lyrical depth but I can also just vibe to his music if I want. Hey Ya to me is a great example where it works as a pop song, but it’s also super interesting lyrically and with its themes. I think Middle Child is a great example of Cole doing both, and it’s a really unique topic for a song. That’s just my general opinion
I took me a second to understand what he meant about the Cole vs drake argument. He’s was saying for drake 90% of his album will usually be 3/10 except for that 10% being 9/10 catchy hits. But cole album will be a constant 6-7/10 maybe even 8/10
The nicki hate is so olddd she has HITS she has skill she has longevity
Agreed 💯
are u a child bro? not one nicki project is in hip hop top 100 what are we talking about?
@@bruh1519 Who cares? She’s an icon. She’s the most successful female artist and broke barriers. I’m not even a nicki stan but I can give credit where credit is due. Everyone knows atleast 3 Nicki songs, her look and voice is instantly recognizable. Whatever one sided beef you have with Nicki doesn’t change the facts sorry!
The only barrier she broke is the sound barrier with her asschecks
@@aaliyahstark7948 That doesn’t make any of her music good. You can’t be a goat based off of anything but your music.
Great takes 👍🏿 I have been saying fir awhile.
Cole definitely better than pusha T and scarface when it comes to impact and influence. Half these rappers that aren’t mumble rap have taken from jcole’s book
Nah you gotta be young. I’m wit you on pusha t but please do your googles on FACE🙌🏾I mean that with all due respect he’s dropped classics for 4 decades both solo and with the geto boys. In 91 he changed the ways cats rapped sorta like Nas did.
Ice cube also wrote for everyone in NWA and had one of best diss tracks of all-time
Since when was Shawn so based and correct on Jcole? His prime was 2014 there’s tons of better rappers. Not even close to top 3.
Where tf is Eazy-E?????
i love when streamers drag peopl einto the public square for execution after runing the vibe in chat.
Missy is not annihilating Nicki Minaj cmon now. I was entering high school as she was starting to pop with her debut coming during my sophomore year. She was a straight force of nature. Mind you I couldn’t stand a majority of her music but her shidd was ringing off like crazy.
missy would body her.
@@njabulongcobo7005not hit for hit
Neither of them are even the best female rappers, lauryn hill is better 🤷🏼♂️
@@ApplePen-kd7otmaybe if Lauryn had more music I could agree but she don’t get enough of a discog to compare sadly, to me.
People really be forgeting about 2014 Forest Hills Drive
Yall constantly bringing up that fucking album, we would never forget. It’s a good album, but yall are doing too much.
@justsamoo3480 it's better than everything kendrick put out except tpab be fucking fr
@@Jcolecolejyou are tripping
@@Jcolecolej Just cuz you like it more doesn’t mean it’s better lol. Get that dick out your mouth
@Jcolecolej You are talking utter shite
w for cole opinion
List was super trash how u make a list with no prodigy
You should react to a few Nicki songs or features Nicki can rap way better than you know too many ppl don’t know her discography and judge her based off super bass and anaconda 🤦
Agreed. She’s the Queen of Rap for a reason
Shawnnn really be cappin just to prove he's point
Also Mr Cole and Mr Aubrey did both drop in 2013. Nothing was the same and born sinner
Cool J a goat
Cole is boring for the most part
Are rap songs supposed to be played at family events?
The more pop rnb you go the more you can play them at family events. But when we're talking display of rap then you're prob not playing that with grandma bro. Sing about me, 4 your eyez only losing to one dance which isn't even a rap song is wild Shawn 🙌.
Rev Run from Run dmc being on this list as a solo artist would be alright I guess.. until I realized they left out both prodigy and havoc from Mobb Deep. GTFOH.
j cole should be at or around 30
1:03, LOVE, Now or Never, Die Hard and so on…
Yeah I understand the TI slander but like I feel like he's top 10 or 20 of Southern rap
I feel like a weirdo cause i listen to the 4 your eyes only track all the time no matter what the situation
I genuinely believe In My Feelings was only big because of the tik tok dance. Every time that song comes on people associate it with the dance, even now. That song is the definition of mid.
P.s I’m listening to KOD over I’m Upset EVERY SINGLE DAY of the week
Ngl snoop has got to be one of the most overrated rappers. He was pretty good in his heyday but man that man hasn't tried for like 25 years definitely effects how I see him, sure his baseline not trying is still pretty decent but like it's definitely something I'd say keeps them from being ranked too highly
No Slick Rick?!?
He's British so he was omitted same with DOOM.
@@hoau1406 ah that makes sense
00:00 - 17:37 "They had us in the first half, I'm not gonna lie"
This fella so biased for Busta 🤣🤣
On the j cole have you heard promise land?
Bro defending a pdf file over Cole like his life depends on it.
Drake puts out too many tracks that are forgettable
Kanye too low
Kanye has too many writers think about it that shows he doesn't even really believe in himself I can't listen or respect a rapper that can't write his own music
@@jiemelgould8664 and yet his best verses are always solo written
@roguee!BLU if that was true than he wouldn't need other writers
@@jiemelgould8664 when working on large albums yes it would make sense that he would have writers versus like through the wire Jesus Lord Saint Pablo no more parties in LA gorgeous new slaves were all written by him and those are considered his top verses
@roguee!BLU A rapper with writers is trash he will never be top 5 and you must be young to defend him real rapper will tell you the same .. When you A rapper your post to try to be the best it like a sport your post to compete and be creative and as a fan your post to hear there thoughts there mind not another man's that's no you rap that's someone else's thoughts coming out of your mouth that a fraud to the art a will never be respected as a real Mc I don't understand how u don't understand that . If that's your favorite rapper you should wanna hear how witty and creative they can get not someone else's you should listen to who wrote it then in that case
Apple Music just made a top 100 albums of all time list.
1:10:53 Tupac denied a collab with Micheal Jackson when he was still alive so I don't that's true.
People love using longevity when it’s convenient to push their fav rapper. Em was a goat at his peek (easy top 5) but after all the hot ass he’s dropped, there’s no fucking way.
lauryn hill is definitely a rapper
Yes but she’s more of a singer, therefore she should be mainly recognized as a singer over a rapper.
she wasn’t just a singer tho
@@gooniganshark Never said she only was one. I’m just saying she sang more than rapped.
@@televisedpork7993She has some of the best verses of all time and Lauryn incorporates Rap on her music. If Lauryn ain't a rapper most new gen rappers are also not rappers.
Ceeman Plug > Lojave
Also Lupe isn’t on this list
That made me sad as shit
Great J. Cole takes, I agreed, lol.
It cant be based on who you a fan of, duh!
Missy is the best 🔥🔥
Why busta so low like he’s doin a solo down with his heart broke
Right Busta falls like 5 spots below a Snoop Dogg for me and both go somewhere between 20-35 top 50 all time. I understand why Snoop is so highly rated but nah
Where my man Big L at for sure the best rapper of all time. Half-A-Mil, Magnolia Slim, Little Simz, Guru, Willie D also deserve being on this list. Cole, 50 and Snoop being on this list at all is wild imo. No spanish rappers Canserbero is probably the best rapper of all time along with Lil Supa.
Snoop is a rap icon. His early stuff is amazing. He also carried one of the most iconic rap albums of all-time lyrically in the chronic. Doggy style is a classic, has loads of features. Also, even though he fell off in quality, he's been making music for 30+ years
is sean okay…? seems a bit unstable
Who has ever bodied Em in a song? I can only remember Nicki.
Shawn brings up good points against Cole, but hes a big Sean fan, so it's invalid
Nicki bodying em on Monster should be enough said. Nicki could potentially take out any rapper out now.
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14:18 💀💀💀😭😭😭
The Nicki manaj rant so outta wack
Ti, Bun B, Gucci, Ludacris on the list but they left out your favorite trapper favorites trapper Jeezy.. wtf yo...
Putting Andre on a list and not big boi is blasphemy
Coles placement is definitely deserved
That is not cap
bros never listened to 4 your eyez only
I think most of these are recency bias.
an hour of that screaming sound when someone pays shawn nah the videos i’ll watch the streams with that DEATH METAL SCREAM 😂😂😂 NAH 😂
Shawn… Cole is fine in the top 20 your buggin brotha 😂