these idiots that want Guentzel - Carolina has his rights - he asked for 8 X 8 - they said OK - and he punted - I would not touch him with a 10 ft pole - he is just another soft winger - the last thing detroit needs .
Not to burst everybody’s bubble, but signing Stamkos is pretty unrealistic by itself. The $32m in cap space is misleading. When you do the numbers, you’ll have roughly $11m of cap space to fill 5 roster spots.
@@hypedetroit wut? you still have 32 million to play with to sign all five and then more. Mo and Raymond will get 16, veleno, berg, and edvin will probably cost 4.4. you still have enough to sign kane and stammer.
Maybe Steve is dumping more salary or a trade is coming. Wallman had injuries consistently and played below average in the last 4 weeks of season. Get rid of Rasmussen for god sakes terrible signing I drather have Soderblom instead of him anyway or Bergeron. Dump another defenseman to.
Kenny, seriously, Walman was a dump and the fact you’re acting like he’s some god when he was scratched multiple times and is a 3rd or 4th pair on a good team baffles me. You’re touting mediocre players and shunning proven studs and I just don’t get it. You are not some hockey elite my guy. Someone has to mute his mic man
@@Tarquin21723 cmon man. You know he’s nothing but a depth defenseman at best. A lot of nobodys get a clutch goal or two. I’m not a Steve slappy but let things play out
@@Tarquin21723Walman had some good goals. He was no a good defender at all. His stat line is bizarre. He had more goals than assists. Like the other commenter said he is a depth dman and was scratched a lot the second half of the season. Something is clearly wrong with him
Walman is not elite by any means but still was one of the Wings better defensemen at certain points last season and likely still had some trade value. Maybe Stevie knows something was wrong with him that most of us don’t, but giving up a 2nd along with him for nothing is still baffling knowing the Sharks would have claimed him off waivers anyways. But yeah I have questioned Kenny’s hockey knowledge for a while now, at one point this season he said the Blues were a terrible team, which i mean they actually finished a point or two better than the Wings who he had predicted making the playoffs.
these losers that are all over Walman - are a joke - he was a give away for St Louis had a decent 1/2 season - got an extension - and played poorly after that - he was healthy scratched last year during a playoff run - . They only like him because he danced - there are plenty of gay bars that you can go to and see all of that you want .
They cannot go into next Season with Holl, Chiarat, Petry, and Maatta on the payroll. Send Holl and one of the other Defenseman to the Rangers for Trouba. New York will Buy out Holl, because it'll be cheaper than buying out Trouba. We'll get a nasty, heavy hitting Defenseman that Teams will be afraid of. No one is scared of this D Corps and they will need to keep their head up with Trouba. Haven't had anyone like him since Kronwall.
Maatta was their most dependable D-man all season long, game in and game out. He's got one year left on a 3mil deal. Hes a good second pair and a top 3rd pair.
I love how these guys really talk like they know more than Steve. I don't mind your opinion but stop acting like you are correct. Just because you wanted him to do it, does not make it right. People think all other gms are just waiting to make a deal with us. Stop it. Steve is building it the right way. All some of you want is a playoff exit in the first round smh
Yzerman mistakes have been signing veterans to bad contracts instead of getting some of the youth on the ice. That doesn’t include Kane, the one guy that was a great value. He has to let loose of some veteran players. Probably stuck with Copp and Petry because one is way over paid and the other is a bargain because Montreal is paying half his salary.
Imagine thinking a line of 3 1 way players that can't play a lick a D would be a good line. Debrincat is pitiful. Kane gives no effort. Stamkos is a spot up shooter. Bruh lol. Do better
Gibson sucks. It needs to be defenseman. Get me Montour and i still like Trouba.. Mo. Montour. Edvinson. Trouba. Pellika. Johanson. Run that immiedietly
If we can get Guentzel with decent term with a plus defender (or resign ghost/keep Kane), lock up Mo and Ray for 8x8 contracts I can be happy with that.
Doesn't matter, curse of the garbage patch. Until that's gone they can't lose enough for my liking. I will openly root against them EVERY GAME until it's gone. 'Every other team has a jersey advertising patch' is NOT an excuse. Grow a pair and make an example!
To answer Kenny’s question of Where is the rest of the money going? They have to re-sign Lucas, Raymond and Moritz Seider. That’s where the money is going.
@@Tarquin21723 Stammer is an upgrade over Kane no doubt but he's still not a player that'll elevate us. He scores 30 goals, we'd still miss the playoffs if we made no other moves
Damn they treatin Gibson like he's a Bum! He used to be considered the Great American Hope! He'll give you a .910 on a decent team... which is why the Wings need... until they draft or sign a Stud Goalie! Unless ur willing to break the Bank like Florida did on Bob... it's ur best bet!!
John Gibson is not the answer, Yzerman keeps bringing in these mediocre backup goalies and trying to make them into starters, and it’s not working. Would rather have Guentzel than Stamkos though.
Gibson is without a doubt better than Husso and Lyon, there’s nobody else available. It’s Gibson or it’s nobody so if you don’t want to make the move don’t start crying when we miss the playoffs. You’re all going to be upset at Yzerman for not making moves that weren’t available
@@joseeduardo4327 obviously they can that is what they do in the Minor leagues - NHL shooters are an entirely different animal . And goalies when you draft them are mostly on athleticism they do not get a lot of really refined coaching and technique . so they learn that in the minors - hopefully improving . IF you put them in before they are ready and they get pummeled - and confidence gets crushed the chances of them making go down big time . That is what has happened with Husso - he played on a very good defensive team in St Louis - he was used to taking certain type of shots. He came to Detroit- he was confident - solid - attacked shooters - but their defense is so bad as the season went on - he was taking shots he had never encountered before - and it has rocked him - he is not going to get that confidence back unless he gets to a team that has a solid defense in front of him again . - when you see shots - you just see a quantity - a number but it does not tell the story of where and what type - that is the difference and why this red wings team is NOT good .
So you guys are. N't taking into consideration that anaheim would likely retain some if not half of gibsons salary as well as husso being shipped off as well. It's such a shortsighted and illogical approach the way you look at the trades
Gibson for Husso, new Stamkos contract, re-sign Ghost, wings sign Matt Roy w/maybe sharks taking some salary. This would be considerable moves don't you think?
Rico is awful
I would've been much happier if we could've landed either Saros or Ullmark. We are in desperate need of a clear cut #1 starting goaltender.
Stamkos, Kane and Trouba!
stamkos is coming for 4 years at 5.5, kaner signes for 3 at 4.5, and then steve signs a defenseman for 5. Mo and raymond get a 8x8
these idiots that want Guentzel - Carolina has his rights - he asked for 8 X 8 - they said OK - and he punted - I would not touch him with a 10 ft pole - he is just another soft winger - the last thing detroit needs .
@@pjpredhomme7699 I agree
Stamkos still a point per game guy tho yo
what are the chances of signing kane stamkos raymond and seider?
maybe 6 mill per yr for all 4 and leaves 4 mill for yr for ghost to run power play
then buy out holl's contract
Not to burst everybody’s bubble, but signing Stamkos is pretty unrealistic by itself. The $32m in cap space is misleading. When you do the numbers, you’ll have roughly $11m of cap space to fill 5 roster spots.
false they literally have 32 mill in cap space. they cap at 55 million.
@@Esydow13 ah okay, so you think having Raymond, Seider, Veleno, Berggren, Edvinsson, Johansson will just be free?
@@hypedetroit wut? you still have 32 million to play with to sign all five and then more. Mo and Raymond will get 16, veleno, berg, and edvin will probably cost 4.4. you still have enough to sign kane and stammer.
Maybe Steve is dumping more salary or a trade is coming. Wallman had injuries consistently and played below average in the last 4 weeks of season. Get rid of Rasmussen for god sakes terrible signing I drather have Soderblom instead of him anyway or Bergeron. Dump another defenseman to.
Kenny, seriously, Walman was a dump and the fact you’re acting like he’s some god when he was scratched multiple times and is a 3rd or 4th pair on a good team baffles me. You’re touting mediocre players and shunning proven studs and I just don’t get it. You are not some hockey elite my guy. Someone has to mute his mic man
Walman was one of the best skaters on the Team and put up points when it mattered.
@@Tarquin21723 cmon man. You know he’s nothing but a depth defenseman at best. A lot of nobodys get a clutch goal or two. I’m not a Steve slappy but let things play out
@@Tarquin21723Walman had some good goals. He was no a good defender at all. His stat line is bizarre. He had more goals than assists.
Like the other commenter said he is a depth dman and was scratched a lot the second half of the season. Something is clearly wrong with him
Walman is not elite by any means but still was one of the Wings better defensemen at certain points last season and likely still had some trade value. Maybe Stevie knows something was wrong with him that most of us don’t, but giving up a 2nd along with him for nothing is still baffling knowing the Sharks would have claimed him off waivers anyways. But yeah I have questioned Kenny’s hockey knowledge for a while now, at one point this season he said the Blues were a terrible team, which i mean they actually finished a point or two better than the Wings who he had predicted making the playoffs.
these losers that are all over Walman - are a joke - he was a give away for St Louis had a decent 1/2 season - got an extension - and played poorly after that - he was healthy scratched last year during a playoff run - . They only like him because he danced - there are plenty of gay bars that you can go to and see all of that you want .
Do not sign gibson
Improve the defense and the goalies get better. Their defense sucks,needs big changes. They should be looking to trade to get better.
They cannot go into next Season with Holl, Chiarat, Petry, and Maatta on the payroll. Send Holl and one of the other Defenseman to the Rangers for Trouba. New York will Buy out Holl, because it'll be cheaper than buying out Trouba. We'll get a nasty, heavy hitting Defenseman that Teams will be afraid of. No one is scared of this D Corps and they will need to keep their head up with Trouba. Haven't had anyone like him since Kronwall.
Maatta was their most dependable D-man all season long, game in and game out. He's got one year left on a 3mil deal. Hes a good second pair and a top 3rd pair.
If they traded for Gibson Husso would be going the other way. Time to actually get hockey elite on your show lol
these guys know absolutely nothing about hockey - sorry
I love how these guys really talk like they know more than Steve. I don't mind your opinion but stop acting like you are correct. Just because you wanted him to do it, does not make it right. People think all other gms are just waiting to make a deal with us. Stop it. Steve is building it the right way. All some of you want is a playoff exit in the first round smh
Yzerman mistakes have been signing veterans to bad contracts instead of getting some of the youth on the ice. That doesn’t include Kane, the one guy that was a great value. He has to let loose of some veteran players. Probably stuck with Copp and Petry because one is way over paid and the other is a bargain because Montreal is paying half his salary.
Bring back Kane and sign Stamkos. Imagine Kane and Debrincat centered by Stamkos.
Never gonna happen, Lalonde would split the three up with a bunch of scrubs.
@@WWXspartan058 why? Put Larkin, Raymond and Fabbri on the 2nd line. And 3rd line you have Compher with some combination of who’s left.
Imagine thinking a line of 3 1 way players that can't play a lick a D would be a good line. Debrincat is pitiful. Kane gives no effort. Stamkos is a spot up shooter. Bruh lol. Do better
It would be decades of experience lol. Amazing to think like 10 years ago.
Not a chance. You don’t want or need both
Where the fuck is Roberto
Kenny is bringing personal preference into the argument, not logic. Kenny wants it his way or the highway.
Gibson sucks. It needs to be defenseman. Get me Montour and i still like Trouba.. Mo. Montour. Edvinson. Trouba. Pellika. Johanson. Run that immiedietly
If we can get Guentzel with decent term with a plus defender (or resign ghost/keep Kane), lock up Mo and Ray for 8x8 contracts I can be happy with that.
Doesn't matter, curse of the garbage patch. Until that's gone they can't lose enough for my liking. I will openly root against them EVERY GAME until it's gone. 'Every other team has a jersey advertising patch' is NOT an excuse. Grow a pair and make an example!
Don’t we need defense? Why are we talking about wasting money on goal scorers? Scoring was fine last season.
To answer Kenny’s question of Where is the rest of the money going? They have to re-sign Lucas, Raymond and Moritz Seider. That’s where the money is going.
Kenny is a moron 🤣
Are Raymond and Seider going to get same money and term?
Husso 5 million? Really???
Keep Husso, Lyon and go after Stamkos, re-sign Kane!
Just awful man 🤦♂️
The only reason to sign Stamkos would be if Kane leaves.
@@Tarquin21723 Stammer is an upgrade over Kane no doubt but he's still not a player that'll elevate us. He scores 30 goals, we'd still miss the playoffs if we made no other moves
Damn they treatin Gibson like he's a Bum! He used to be considered the Great American Hope! He'll give you a .910 on a decent team... which is why the Wings need... until they draft or sign a Stud Goalie! Unless ur willing to break the Bank like Florida did on Bob... it's ur best bet!!
John Gibson is not the answer, Yzerman keeps bringing in these mediocre backup goalies and trying to make them into starters, and it’s not working. Would rather have Guentzel than Stamkos though.
i would rather have REINHART then either of them
@@18wheeler76agreed. Or Montour
I say he's gonna grab 1st overall pick 2nite. Wallman is just part of the deal... I just want it 2 be awesome and mean something.
Kenny is absolutely stupid. Gibson is a top 15 goalie in the league 🤡
Gibson is without a doubt better than Husso and Lyon, there’s nobody else available. It’s Gibson or it’s nobody so if you don’t want to make the move don’t start crying when we miss the playoffs. You’re all going to be upset at Yzerman for not making moves that weren’t available
Where’s Cossa in this conversation?
Still in development. He's still too young. Goalies aren't really ready until 24-25.
@@Tarquin21723why is that? Why can’t they stop pucks before they’re able to rent a car? I never understood it
@@joseeduardo4327 obviously they can that is what they do in the Minor leagues - NHL shooters are an entirely different animal . And goalies when you draft them are mostly on athleticism they do not get a lot of really refined coaching and technique . so they learn that in the minors - hopefully improving . IF you put them in before they are ready and they get pummeled - and confidence gets crushed the chances of them making go down big time . That is what has happened with Husso - he played on a very good defensive team in St Louis - he was used to taking certain type of shots. He came to Detroit- he was confident - solid - attacked shooters - but their defense is so bad as the season went on - he was taking shots he had never encountered before - and it has rocked him - he is not going to get that confidence back unless he gets to a team that has a solid defense in front of him again . - when you see shots - you just see a quantity - a number but it does not tell the story of where and what type - that is the difference and why this red wings team is NOT good .
Stamkos kontrakt allmost 9 milon dollars in tampa?
6 milon for saaros
So you guys are.
N't taking into consideration that anaheim would likely retain some if not half of gibsons salary as well as husso being shipped off as well. It's such a shortsighted and illogical approach the way you look at the trades
lyon will be traded before husso. sad truth
Gibson for Husso, new Stamkos contract, re-sign Ghost, wings sign Matt Roy w/maybe sharks taking some salary. This would be considerable moves don't you think?
Sharks can't take salary unfortunately. They're already retaining on the max 3 contracts.
Sometime I have to wonder if Kenny really watches hockey. Always high level hockey takes with these guys man
Gibson for Husso
That doesn’t make Any sense. Gibson is way overpaid and is signed for several more seasons.
Sergachev just got traded so Stammer91 ain't going anywhere.
stammer rejected the lightnings offer. His bags are packed for a new team
@@Esydow13 that was b4 sergy was traded, bolts have over 16mil in cap space now
@@RayLahey They offered 3 million thats a slap in the face. He wont return
@@RayLahey they're paying Paul 3.1 million and he put up a lousy 45 point where stammers put up 81. He's leaving